IIHF World Championship 2005 pool thread

slapshot™ · 4-16-05, 9:49 AM

Here's the link to the -> Official IIHF website

Group A: SLV, RUS, AUT, BLR

Group B: CZE, GER, SUI, KAZ

Group C: CAN, USA, LAT, SLO

Group D: SWE, FIN, UKR, DEN

The IIHF World Ranking is a tool to reflect the long-term quality of the countries' national team program. The IIHF World Ranking is based on awarding points for the final positions in the last four IIHF World Championships and in the last Olympic Ice Hockey Tournament. The 2003 IIHF World Ranking is thus based on the performance at the 2003, 2002, 2001 and the 2000 World Championship and at the 2002 Olympic Ice Hockey Tournament.

The team that wins the IIHF World Championship gold medal or the Olympic gold medal receives 1200 points. In general, there is a 20-point interval between two ranked positions (for example, 13th place receives 880 points and 14th place receives 860 points). As an exception to this principle there is a 40-point interval between gold and silver, silver and bronze, 4th and 5th position and between 8th and 9th position in the top division. The reason for the larger intervals for these positions is to give teams a bonus for reaching the quarter-finals, the semi-finals, the final and for winning the gold medal.

To enable the ranking to accurately reflect current form, the greatest importance is given to results of the last years' competition. To a lesser degree, attention is also paid to results from previous years. The system uses a four-year cycle as the points earned in one year decline in value by 25 percent each year over the next three years and in the fifth year results are dropped from the calculation altogether.

Example: Value of the gold medal
Year 1: 100% value -- 1200 points
Year 2: 75% value -- 900 points
Year 3: 50% value -- 600 points
Year 4: 25% value -- 300 points
Year 5: 0% value -- 0 points

The IIHF World Ranking will be released following each IIHF World Championship and the Olympic Ice Hockey Tournament.

Before each World Championship, a pre-championship report will be released in which the values of the previous seasons are already reduced according to the above-described procedure and where only the points of the upcoming competition need to be added to get the IIHF World Ranking for the year.

The IIHF World Ranking will also be used to determine the seeding tiers for the draw for the four groups at the 2005 World Championship in Austria. Teams ranked 1-4 in the 2004 World Ranking will be in one bowl, teams ranked 5-8 in the next, teams ranked 9-12 in the third and teams ranked 13-16 in the last one. The draw will take place on May 12, 2004 in Innsbruck, Austria.

That said (copied'n'pasted!), are we ready to get our game faces on and start a pool? Are you ready, Ferret?

16 clubs and a total of 56 games according to the Tournament Format.

Madferret · 4-16-05, 10:39 AM

Would you like me organize the pool Slappy? What kind of pool should we start up? Player or Country? I'm thinking Country might be a little easier to set up & run...

slapshot™ · 4-16-05, 7:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madferret

Would you like me organize the pool Slappy? What kind of pool should we start up? Player or Country? I'm thinking Country might be a little easier to set up & run...

I also think we should go with country...game by game. I haven't checked the format...but so many points for a win and so many for a tie and none for a loss - how does that sound?

I will find out the preliminary rounds and start setting up the old spreadsheet.

Madferret · 4-19-05, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by slapshot?

I also think we should go with country...game by game. I haven't checked the format...but so many points for a win and so many for a tie and none for a loss - how does that sound?

I will find out the preliminary rounds and start setting up the old spreadsheet.

Ok, by country it is then. What do you think of this format? I used it in a Soccer pool and it just adds a little twist to picking the winners out-right..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madferret

To play our pool, all you need to do is assign each team a numeric value, 1-16 using each number once. You will be awarded the numeric value of each team as you have chosen per win, so if you think Canada is going to win the Cup, you would assign them 16. Likewise, if you think Latvia isn't going to win 1 game,you would assign them 1.

Too confusing?

slapshot™ · 4-20-05, 11:45 PM

Maybe no one is interested in a pool?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madferret

To play our pool, all you need to do is assign each team a numeric value, 1-16 using each number once. You will be awarded the numeric value of each team as you have chosen per win, so if you think Canada is going to win the Cup, you would assign them 16. Likewise, if you think Latvia isn't going to win 1 game,you would assign them 1.

a4l · 4-21-05, 1:19 AM

I would be interested and like the numeric value system.

TimmyTabasco · 4-21-05, 11:11 AM

I'd be interested

Madferret · 4-21-05, 11:52 AM

Ok so that's 4 so far, almost double the AHL pool....

slapshot™ · 4-21-05, 1:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madferret

Ok so that's 4 so far, almost double the AHL pool....

I like those odds!

Mel · 4-21-05, 1:58 PM

Count me in.... as long as it's not rocket science

Madferret · 4-21-05, 4:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt

Count me in.... as long as it's not rocket science

Do you follow this format Matty?...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madferret
To play our pool, all you need to do is assign each team a numeric value, 1-16 using each number once. You will be awarded the numeric value of each team as you have chosen per win, so if you think Canada is going to win the Cup, you would assign them 16. Likewise, if you think Latvia isn't going to win 1 game,you would assign them 1.

The Insider · 4-21-05, 7:35 PM

I'm always up for a pool, just let me know when I need to submit my picks.

Madferret · 4-21-05, 7:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Insider

I'm always up for a pool, just let me know when I need to submit my picks.

Will do, did you understand that format that I suggested?

The Insider · 4-21-05, 7:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madferret

Will do, did you understand that format that I suggested?

Kinda, but if I see a few examples of people posting their picks, I should be able to get it or even maybe reading it over a few times

J.R. · 4-21-05, 8:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madferret

Will do, did you understand that format that I suggested?

After assigning Chelsea a "one" in the Champions League pool, I don't know.

Seriously though, I like the format. It's pretty simple (if I read the rules twice) and appears to be easy for the pool organized to add up. It's a good idea and I would like to participate as well.

Madferret · 4-21-05, 8:15 PM

*shock*
We're at like 6 here, what you guys like making me work???

slapshot™ · 4-23-05, 8:34 PM

Here is the sked for the Prelim round.....

Date/Time
Group
Home
Away
Venue
Sat, 30.04 16:15
A
Russia
Austria
Stadthalle
Sat, 30.04 16:15
B
Latvia
Canada
Olympic stadium
Sat, 30.04 20:15
A
Slovakia
Belarus
Stadthalle
Sat, 30.04 20:15
C
Finland
Denmark
Olympic stadium
Sun, 01.05 16:15
D
Switzerland
Czech Republic
Stadthalle
Sun, 01.05 16:15
B
USA
Slovenia
Olympic stadium
Sun, 01.05 20:15
D
Germany
Kazakhstan
Stadthalle
Sun, 01.05 20:15
C
Ukraine
Sweden
Olympic stadium
Mon, 02.05 16:15
A
Slovakia
Russia
Stadthalle
Mon, 02.05 16:15
C
Finland
Ukraine
Olympic stadium
Mon, 02.05 20:15
A
Belarus
Austria
Stadthalle
Mon, 02.05 20:15
C
Sweden
Denmark
Olympic stadium
Tue, 03.05 16:15
D
Kazakhstan
Switzerland
Stadthalle
Tue, 03.05 16:15
B
Canada
Slovenia
Olympic stadium
Tue, 03.05 20:15
D
Czech Republic
Germany
Stadthalle
Tue, 03.05 20:15
B
USA
Latvia
Olympic stadium
Wed, 04.05 16:15
A
Russia
Belarus
Stadthalle
Wed, 04.05 16:15
C
Denmark
Ukraine
Olympic stadium
Wed, 04.05 20:15
A
Austria
Slovakia
Stadthalle
Wed, 04.05 20:15
C
Sweden
Finland
Olympic stadium
Thu, 05.05 16:15
D
Czech Republic
Kazakhstan
Stadthalle
Thu, 05.05 16:15
B
Slovenia
Latvia
Olympic stadium
Thu, 05.05 20:15
D
Germany
Switzerland
Stadthalle
Thu, 05.05 20:15
B
Canada
USA
Olympic stadium

Madferret · 4-23-05, 8:40 PM

Nice one Slappy..

slapshot™ · 4-23-05, 8:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Insider

Kinda, but if I see a few examples of people posting their picks, I should be able to get it or even maybe reading it over a few times

Here's another example....

You assign each team a value. If you have selected Finland at 4 (being 4th from the bottom of the 16 teams) and Sweden 14 (3rd of 16) and Sweden wins then you get 14 points...but if Finland wins you only get 4 points. <- for that particular game.

Mel · 4-24-05, 7:52 AM

I made my picks... am I supposed to post them or PM them to Ferret?

4-16-05, 9:49 AM	#1
slapshot™ DSOTM Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I'll see you on the dark side of the moon. Posts: 1,356	IIHF World Championship 2005 pool thread Here's the link to the -> Official IIHF website Group A: SLV, RUS, AUT, BLR Group B: CZE, GER, SUI, KAZ Group C: CAN, USA, LAT, SLO Group D: SWE, FIN, UKR, DEN The IIHF World Ranking is a tool to reflect the long-term quality of the countries' national team program. The IIHF World Ranking is based on awarding points for the final positions in the last four IIHF World Championships and in the last Olympic Ice Hockey Tournament. The 2003 IIHF World Ranking is thus based on the performance at the 2003, 2002, 2001 and the 2000 World Championship and at the 2002 Olympic Ice Hockey Tournament. The team that wins the IIHF World Championship gold medal or the Olympic gold medal receives 1200 points. In general, there is a 20-point interval between two ranked positions (for example, 13th place receives 880 points and 14th place receives 860 points). As an exception to this principle there is a 40-point interval between gold and silver, silver and bronze, 4th and 5th position and between 8th and 9th position in the top division. The reason for the larger intervals for these positions is to give teams a bonus for reaching the quarter-finals, the semi-finals, the final and for winning the gold medal. To enable the ranking to accurately reflect current form, the greatest importance is given to results of the last years' competition. To a lesser degree, attention is also paid to results from previous years. The system uses a four-year cycle as the points earned in one year decline in value by 25 percent each year over the next three years and in the fifth year results are dropped from the calculation altogether. Example: Value of the gold medal Year 1: 100% value -- 1200 points Year 2: 75% value -- 900 points Year 3: 50% value -- 600 points Year 4: 25% value -- 300 points Year 5: 0% value -- 0 points The IIHF World Ranking will be released following each IIHF World Championship and the Olympic Ice Hockey Tournament. Before each World Championship, a pre-championship report will be released in which the values of the previous seasons are already reduced according to the above-described procedure and where only the points of the upcoming competition need to be added to get the IIHF World Ranking for the year. The IIHF World Ranking will also be used to determine the seeding tiers for the draw for the four groups at the 2005 World Championship in Austria. Teams ranked 1-4 in the 2004 World Ranking will be in one bowl, teams ranked 5-8 in the next, teams ranked 9-12 in the third and teams ranked 13-16 in the last one. The draw will take place on May 12, 2004 in Innsbruck, Austria. That said (copied'n'pasted!), are we ready to get our game faces on and start a pool? Are you ready, Ferret? 16 clubs and a total of 56 games according to the Tournament Format.

4-21-05, 1:19 AM	#6
a4l HS MVP Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: cyberspace Posts: 2,310	I would be interested and like the numeric value system. __________________

4-16-05, 10:39 AM	#2
Madferret Dolly Rocker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 613 Posts: 5,081	Would you like me organize the pool Slappy? What kind of pool should we start up? Player or Country? I'm thinking Country might be a little easier to set up & run...

4-21-05, 11:11 AM	#7
TimmyTabasco Sauceboy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 3,347	I'd be interested

4-21-05, 11:52 AM	#8
Madferret Dolly Rocker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 613 Posts: 5,081	Ok so that's 4 so far, almost double the AHL pool....

4-21-05, 1:58 PM	#10
Mel Head Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,149	Count me in.... as long as it's not rocket science

4-21-05, 7:35 PM	#12
The Insider HS Captain Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The City Of Toronto Posts: 1,048	I'm always up for a pool, just let me know when I need to submit my picks.

4-21-05, 8:15 PM	#16
Madferret Dolly Rocker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 613 Posts: 5,081	shock We're at like 6 here, what you guys like making me work???

4-23-05, 8:34 PM	#17
slapshot™ DSOTM Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I'll see you on the dark side of the moon. Posts: 1,356	Here is the sked for the Prelim round..... Date/Time Group Home Away Venue Sat, 30.04 16:15 A Russia Austria Stadthalle Sat, 30.04 16:15 B Latvia Canada Olympic stadium Sat, 30.04 20:15 A Slovakia Belarus Stadthalle Sat, 30.04 20:15 C Finland Denmark Olympic stadium Sun, 01.05 16:15 D Switzerland Czech Republic Stadthalle Sun, 01.05 16:15 B USA Slovenia Olympic stadium Sun, 01.05 20:15 D Germany Kazakhstan Stadthalle Sun, 01.05 20:15 C Ukraine Sweden Olympic stadium Mon, 02.05 16:15 A Slovakia Russia Stadthalle Mon, 02.05 16:15 C Finland Ukraine Olympic stadium Mon, 02.05 20:15 A Belarus Austria Stadthalle Mon, 02.05 20:15 C Sweden Denmark Olympic stadium Tue, 03.05 16:15 D Kazakhstan Switzerland Stadthalle Tue, 03.05 16:15 B Canada Slovenia Olympic stadium Tue, 03.05 20:15 D Czech Republic Germany Stadthalle Tue, 03.05 20:15 B USA Latvia Olympic stadium Wed, 04.05 16:15 A Russia Belarus Stadthalle Wed, 04.05 16:15 C Denmark Ukraine Olympic stadium Wed, 04.05 20:15 A Austria Slovakia Stadthalle Wed, 04.05 20:15 C Sweden Finland Olympic stadium Thu, 05.05 16:15 D Czech Republic Kazakhstan Stadthalle Thu, 05.05 16:15 B Slovenia Latvia Olympic stadium Thu, 05.05 20:15 D Germany Switzerland Stadthalle Thu, 05.05 20:15 B Canada USA Olympic stadium

4-23-05, 8:40 PM	#18
Madferret Dolly Rocker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 613 Posts: 5,081	Nice one Slappy..

4-24-05, 7:52 AM	#20
Mel Head Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,149	I made my picks... am I supposed to post them or PM them to Ferret?