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Madferret
7-18-05, 12:58 PM
Ludicrous Leafs-Crosby Draft Thread (http://www.tmlfans.ca/forums/index.php?topic=38712.0)

It would take: Theodore, Koivu, Ryder, Hainsey, Komisarek, Kostsitsyn, 3rd overall this year, 1st round pick next year and 1st round pick the following year for me to do it.

Look out Habs fans...

J.R.
7-18-05, 1:31 PM
I'm laughing. Hard.

They're getting so giddy, because if they were to get the first overall pick, they know the Leafs couldn't possibly screw things up. Or could they? We all know the infamous drafting history of the blue and white trash.

BTW, this is funny too:
I pray that the Leafs have a high 1st pick because if it's low it will suck because they don't have that 2nd round pick.Doesn't everyone get a second round pick, because the draft is snaked through seven rounds? Crazy Leafers - they're so used to their team not having a draft in the first two rounds.

Iced Tea
7-18-05, 1:36 PM
That has to win the prize for stupidest post ever by a so-called Leafs fan, heck, any fan of hockey.

There is no way that Crosby is worth that much. If he was, the lottery winners would be stupid to even consider trading him because he should be able to single handedly carry any team.

Crosby for a bag of pucks, two broken sticks and a Ceaser salad starter kit is a more realistic deal than what the above quoted person says.

Jeez, why not just ask for the entire team. :rolleyes:

Rusty
7-18-05, 1:52 PM
Yawn.

Another day another silver dollar, and a day closer to retirement.

Iced Tea
7-18-05, 1:55 PM
Yawn.

Another day another silver dollar, and a day closer to retirement.
Another silver dollar?

You're either being sarcastic or changed jobs to being a shoe shine boy, hooker or miner. I've seen pictures of you, so I'll go with miner. :D

Rusty
7-18-05, 1:57 PM
It's a saying I have, when ever some one asks me how I am doing I say that, I also say it when I am bored with what I am reading and doing!

Leafs_Fa_Life
7-18-05, 1:57 PM
Doesn't everyone get a second round pick, because the draft is snaked through seven rounds? Crazy Leafers - they're so used to their team not having a draft in the first two rounds.

How does a snaked draft relate to the Leafs having a pick in the second round anyway?

If memory serves me correctly the team gave up a 2nd round pick in the Leetch trade. Now, since the 2nd round pick the team didn't have in last years draft was Carolina's from the Glen Wesley deal, then the 2nd we don't have this year must be the Rangers.

bluemeanie
7-18-05, 2:19 PM
Dev, You're my Brother and I love you man. But, one would think that this forum is a good one because we don't have Leafer kids (or any fans) that make outragous comments like these. So, I figured that you'd be happy not having to deal with it... yet you go out searching for them, and bring them back here!?! I think you love the Leaf bashing, huh? I wouldn't think that you'd have to reach to come up with material though... =]

I'll try to put this thread to good use anyhow.

Although the odds are all over the place, anyone of the leagues 30 teams might get the first pick, so my question is, are there ANY teams that would consider trading "him", for maybe a solid D-man (like McCabe) =], or perhaps a top goalie? And what would 'you' offer up for the kid?

Madferret
7-18-05, 6:29 PM
Dev, You're my Brother and I love you man. But, one would think that this forum is a good one because we don't have Leafer kids (or any fans) that make outragous comments like these. So, I figured that you'd be happy not having to deal with it... yet you go out searching for them, and bring them back here!?! I think you love the Leaf bashing, huh? I wouldn't think that you'd have to reach to come up with material though... =]

I'll try to put this thread to good use anyhow.

Although the odds are all over the place, anyone of the leagues 30 teams might get the first pick, so my question is, are there ANY teams that would consider trading "him", for maybe a solid D-man (like McCabe) =], or perhaps a top goalie? And what would 'you' offer up for the kid?

If you wanted to ask me out for dinner Blue you only had to say so.
:wicked:
Alright alright, I'll give the Blue & White Koolaid Threads posted by adults the nitch. Only cause you love me....

bluemeanie
7-19-05, 10:28 AM
If you wanted to ask me out for dinner Blue you only had to say so.

I'll pick you up at 8:30 Friday... wear something blue. =]

butterfly_style
7-20-05, 10:08 AM
If you wanted to ask me out for dinner Blue you only had to say so. I'll pick you up at 8:30 Friday... wear something blue. =]
We all know what Mr. Meanie will be wearing
http://www.strangesports.com/images/content/14063.JPG

bluemeanie
7-20-05, 10:10 AM
We all know what Mr. Meanie will be wearing


Yup. Muskol, and nothing else. =]

Newfie John
7-20-05, 10:37 AM
Here's the leaf link for today.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=130897

Max Power
7-20-05, 11:04 AM
Here's the leaf link for today.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=130897

Not to be the devils advocate but I've seen these interviews and how TSN or sportsnet like to put a twist on them.
Jour: Do you think you?ll be playing somewhere else this year?
O?neil If it's somewhere else, then who knows?

Jour: What do you think of the opportunity of playing for another team
O?neil It might even be a good thing to have a little bit of a change of scenery, it might revitalize my career.

Jour: Would you like to play for Toronto your home town team
O?neil: If I'm back there, I'm back there. We'll see. It wouldn't surprise me if I wasn't back, let's put it that way." To be honest, if I was a free agent, I'd try to find a way to make it work in Toronto,"

TSN REPORT:
O?Neil only wants to play for TO

This type of reporting is only there to cater fans that need this kind of stuff to talk about. It doesn?t take a genius to figure out that most players will always like to come home and play in the area they grew up in. They won?t take massive pay cuts or hold out to play in their hometown, most players just want a cup or want the best wages? If they can play in their hometown and get that then most will ?try to find a way to make it work in Toronto?

Madferret
7-20-05, 11:22 AM
Not to be the devils advocate but I've seen these interviews and how TSN or sportsnet like to put a twist on them.
Jour: Do you think you?ll be playing somewhere else this year?
O?neil If it's somewhere else, then who knows?

Jour: What do you think of the opportunity of playing for another team
O?neil It might even be a good thing to have a little bit of a change of scenery, it might revitalize my career.

Jour: Would you like to play for Toronto your home town team
O?neil: If I'm back there, I'm back there. We'll see. It wouldn't surprise me if I wasn't back, let's put it that way." To be honest, if I was a free agent, I'd try to find a way to make it work in Toronto,"

TSN REPORT:
O?Neil only wants to play for TO

This type of reporting is only there to cater fans that need this kind of stuff to talk about. It doesn?t take a genius to figure out that most players will always like to come home and play in the area they grew up in. They won?t take massive pay cuts or hold out to play in their hometown, most players just want a cup or want the best wages? If they can play in their hometown and get that then most will ?try to find a way to make it work in Toronto?

Thank you Max, well put. And it doesn't stop there, it morphs into grown adults making silly, presumptuous, ignorant, and baseless claims.

:shrug:

bluemeanie
7-20-05, 11:40 AM
Aww c'mon guys, I'm not saying that what you've pointed out does not happen Max, but is it really that hard to believe that someone might want to play for their hometown team if they had a choice. The point of the article is that O'Neill 'would like to try to go to Toronto' if the canes don't qualify him. Not, "I will ONLY play for the Leafs" - no one has suggested that. This isn't the first time that O'Neill has shown interest in Toronto. He was on 640 am last season at trade deadline, when his name was being dropped by Toronto media, and he said that 'although, my preference would be to stay in Carolina, Toronto would be one team that I'd definitely listen to.' My source is my memory. Even when we do find a quote from the horse?s mouth you guys go into a state of denial. Man, let's get this friggin' season going already... I love this shi !!! =]

Madferret
7-20-05, 11:46 AM
Aww c'mon guys, I'm not saying that what you've pointed out does not happen Max, but is it really that hard to believe that someone might want to play for their hometown team if they had a choice. The point of the article is that O'Neill 'would like to try to go to Toronto' if the canes don't qualify him. Not, "I will ONLY play for the Leafs" - no one has suggested that. This isn't the first time that O'Neill has shown interest in Toronto. He was on 640 am last season at trade deadline, when his name was being dropped by Toronto media, and he said that 'although, my preference would be to stay in Carolina, Toronto would be one team that I'd definitely listen to.' My source is my memory. Even when we do find a quote from the horse?s mouth you guys go into a state of denial. Man, let's get this friggin' season going already... I love this shi !!! =]

Our point Blue is that this same kind of article could be written about any of of the big name players who's future is up in the air with regards to where they will end up. But all we ever see is 'So & So in Toronto'...

Think of it from a Non-Leaf fans perspective 'Ol boy...

:thumb:

Max Power
7-20-05, 11:57 AM
Aww c'mon guys, I'm not saying that what you've pointed out does not happen Max, but is it really that hard to believe that someone might want to play for their hometown team if they had a choice. The point of the article is that O'Neill 'would like to try to go to Toronto' if the canes don't qualify him. Not, "I will ONLY play for the Leafs" - no one has suggested that. This isn't the first time that O'Neill has shown interest in Toronto. He was on 640 am last season at trade deadline, when his name was being dropped by Toronto media, and he said that 'although, my preference would be to stay in Carolina, Toronto would be one team that I'd definitely listen to.' My source is my memory. Even when we do find a quote from the horse?s mouth you guys go into a state of denial. Man, let's get this friggin' season going already... I love this shi !!! =]

I totally agree with you... my only point is that the media sensationalizes anything like this in TO and then the fans do. PS Leafs Suck... Oh and your girlfriends secretly a Sens fan
Take that blue!

bluemeanie
7-20-05, 12:08 PM
I hear you guys, I know there's a lot of media coverage geared towards the Toronto market. Or perhaps more to the point, too little geared towards other Canadian markets, but you have to consider, that if the Sens were to be around longer, then maybe many of these same Ontario players would be saying the same thing about playing in Ottawa. Then I'd be the one posting all the rolly eyes. =]

Newfie John
7-20-05, 12:09 PM
Not to be the devils advocate but I've seen these interviews and how TSN or sportsnet like to put a twist on them.
Jour: Do you think you?ll be playing somewhere else this year?
O?neil If it's somewhere else, then who knows?

Jour: What do you think of the opportunity of playing for another team
O?neil It might even be a good thing to have a little bit of a change of scenery, it might revitalize my career.

Jour: Would you like to play for Toronto your home town team
O?neil: If I'm back there, I'm back there. We'll see. It wouldn't surprise me if I wasn't back, let's put it that way." To be honest, if I was a free agent, I'd try to find a way to make it work in Toronto,"

TSN REPORT:
O?Neil only wants to play for TO

This type of reporting is only there to cater fans that need this kind of stuff to talk about. It doesn?t take a genius to figure out that most players will always like to come home and play in the area they grew up in. They won?t take massive pay cuts or hold out to play in their hometown, most players just want a cup or want the best wages? If they can play in their hometown and get that then most will ?try to find a way to make it work in Toronto?

That could happen. But he said directly in a quote that he would want to make it work in Toronto. Usually when the interview is set up like you have it there, they say they wouldn't turn down the opportunity of going, and then it gets blown out of proportion.

Madferret
7-20-05, 12:22 PM
That could happen. But he said directly in a quote that he would want to make it work in Toronto. Usually when the interview is set up like you have it there, they say they wouldn't turn down the opportunity of going, and then it gets blown out of proportion.

Wound't you expect him to say he wants it work?

Newfie John
7-20-05, 3:17 PM
Wound't you expect him to say he wants it work?

Which is what he said..... :confused:

I doubt it was that kind of situation Max described because the source in all of this is a Carolina newspaper. Why would they want him to say Toronto?

J.R.
7-20-05, 3:52 PM
How does a snaked draft relate to the Leafs having a pick in the second round anyway? A, I am under the impression that the first round order will be used for all seven rounds, just snaking back and forth, meaning that every team would have seven selections. Now I may be out in left field with this one. I don't know for sure.

Newfie John
7-20-05, 3:57 PM
A, I am under the impression that the first round order will be used for all seven rounds, just snaking back and forth, meaning that every team would have seven selections. Now I may be out in left field with this one. I don't know for sure.

I think you're right. All the transactions on trades are bumped ahead a year I believe.

scorpionn
7-20-05, 7:15 PM
I think you're right. All the transactions on trades are bumped ahead a year I believe.

Really? This is the first I've heard about this... guess we'll know for sure Friday.

The Insider
7-20-05, 9:45 PM
You know what I find funny, whenever there are premier players in Toronto who are coming up to free agency, there always seems to be a report from some Toronto outlet that makes it sound like the player is coming to Toronto or who's first choice would be Toronto. Rob Blake, Eric Lindros, Jason Allison, Jeff O'Neill are a few examples. Leads me to believe that the Toronto Media goes up to every player and says "Well, your contract is almost up, what's your thought on coming and playing for the Leafs." It's very misleading to all of us Leafers who would love to see these guys on the team, I wish they could ban the media outlets from talking to any player about their interest in playing for Toronto :thumb:

J.R.
7-20-05, 10:30 PM
Rob Blake, Eric Lindros, Jason Allison, Jeff O'Neill are a few examples. Leads me to believe that the Toronto Media goes up to every player and says "Well, your contract is almost up, what's your thought on coming and playing for the Leafs."The most outrageous example I can think of was last season right before the trade deadline and the T.O. media had whipped up such a frenzy that the Maple Leafs organization themselves were convinced that Sergei Gonchar was joining the team. They even went as far as posting his profile and picture on their official website. As we all know, just days later, he was dealt to Boston. :laughing:

The Insider
7-20-05, 10:38 PM
The most outrageous example I can think of was last season right before the trade deadline and the T.O. media had whipped up such a frenzy that the Maple Leafs organization themselves were convinced that Sergei Gonchar was joining the team. They even went as far as posting his profile and picture on their official website. As we all know, just days later, he was dealt to Boston. :laughing:

Well, that was just one of them, there was Kolzig being interviewed on the Fan about his thoughts about possibly becoming a Leaf, Sean Hill was here and then gone and then here again. As a non Leaf fan I could see how it could be annoying, but even as a Leaf fan I am getting sick of the media getting there sights set on one or two players and riding out for weeks upon weeks until nothing happens, the deadline passes and then they begin to rip into the GM. I guess it's the price to pay in the Toronto market, and now I worry that with the new CBA and a ba-zillion free agents available, the media is going to go drunk with rumors and until every player is signed, the media will be going into full gear with rumors, interviews and predictions. I really am considering staying off the internet, not reading the paper and avoiding all radio and TV which involves sports talk it's my only way out of this insanity.

Amoroq
8-12-05, 9:32 AM
Rob Blake, Eric Lindros, Jason Allison, Jeff O'Neill are a few examples. Leads me to believe that the Toronto Media goes up to every player and says "Well, your contract is almost up, what's your thought on coming and playing for the Leafs." It's very misleading to all of us Leafers who would love to see these guys on the team, I wish they could ban the media outlets from talking to any player about their interest in playing for Toronto :thumb:I want you, I need you, but there ain't no way I am ever gonna love you but don't be sad......cause 3 out of 4 aint bad ;) :laughing:

Throwing hockey players names to some Toronto media is like watching the great white feed on The Discouvery Channel :)

Madferret
8-12-05, 9:41 AM
I want you, I need you, but there ain't no way I am ever gonna love you but don't be sad......cause 3 out of 4 aint bad ;) :laughing:

Throwing hockey players names to some Toronto media is like watching the great white feed on The Discouvery Channel :)

See Quinn post game conference influencing the officiating for the next Leaf game.

Rusty
8-12-05, 9:45 AM
I have all but sworn off the Leafarazzi. For them it is all about one-up-manship.

They are truly a joke.

I have even gone so far as to stop watching any sports channel, be it TSN, SN, and the Score. I have better things to do then listen to their crap.

grim
8-12-05, 10:25 AM
As a non Leaf fan I could see how it could be annoying...

For me anyway, these incidents are often highly amusing. It is hard to watch the feeding frenzy without making jokes that could be considered to be Leaf bashing. I like a lot of you Leaf fans and I know you are good hockey fans and not to blame because Gord Stellick is a dick.

Amoroq
8-12-05, 10:39 AM
See Quinn post game conference influencing the officiating for the next Leaf game.Thing is, I don't mind a coach doing that. As far as I am concerned thats part of the job to try and deflect the spotlight away from his player, This is even more the case in the media nuthouse that is Toronto. Someone has to keep Simmons, Strachan and the "clears throut" journalists at bay ;)

Rusty
8-13-05, 11:34 PM
Of course when Wayne did it, it was okay?

Right?

:thumb:

It is something that coaches have been doing for years, one of the best ever Scotty Bowman used to do it continuously.

J.R.
8-13-05, 11:41 PM
Of course when Wayne did it, it was okay?

Right?Correct. Wayne has never done anything wrong. Ever. And never will.

Rusty
8-13-05, 11:46 PM
But Quinn gets chastised for doing basically the same thing? :rolleyes:

So I guess it's better to yank the Mascots tounge out and make yourslef look like a fool in front of the world? ;)

J.R.
8-13-05, 11:53 PM
But Quinn gets chastised for doing basically the same thing? :rolleyes: I don't want to compare Gretzky and Quinn. Hopefully you understand.

So I guess it's better to yank the Mascots tounge out and make yourslef look like a fool in front of the world? ;)A fool? More like a hero among OILists everywhere to teach that Harvey a hard lesson, he has yet to forget.

Rusty
8-13-05, 11:58 PM
Of course I understand, as long as you understand where I am going with this....

IMHO he made a fool of himself, a coach/player in the NHL should never ever tangle with anybody in the stands be it a mascot who is taunting him, or a fan that is taunting a player in the penalty bench.

And Harvey had the last laugh as far as I am concerned.

J.R.
8-14-05, 12:06 AM
I know what you're getting at, don't worry.
IMHO he made a fool of himself, a coach/player in the NHL should never ever tangle with anybody in the stands be it a mascot who is taunting him, or a fan that is taunting a player in the penalty bench.Good point. I actually totally agree with that. Fans should never be going after the players/coaches and the players/coaches should never be going after the fans. That's how fights begin and then nothing good is to come of that (i.e. a riot, like the one in Detroit during that basketball game). The stands are for the fans. The playing area is for the players/coaches.

Rusty
8-14-05, 12:14 AM
Exactly.

One of the most boring interveiws after a game has to be Jaques Martin! He reminds me of an animtron at Disneyland.

TimmyTabasco
8-14-05, 12:34 AM
Exactly.

One of the most boring interveiws after a game has to be Jaques Martin! He reminds me of an animtron at Disneyland.

I actually found Jacques "The Fish" Martin to be hilarious in his interviews :laughing: :coffee:

Just by looking at the odd character speak, was enough :nod:

Amoroq
8-14-05, 1:54 AM
I don't want to compare Gretzky and Quinn. Hopefully you understandWell there isn't anything to compare to yet. But if you insist as of right now Quinn is the better coach.

Maurice Richard - Great player, failure as a coach.

Phil Esposito - Great player, failure as a coach.

For Waynes sake lets hope 3 times is the charm.

Great coaches usually come from former lousy players.

Just because he is Wayne Gretzky, don't be having him breaking Scotty Bowmans record

;)

And I say this with all due respect as I own a vintage #99 Oiler Jersey.

leaferfan87
8-14-05, 10:09 PM
Add George Armstrong to that list.

KB in Kelowna
8-14-05, 10:56 PM
Wonder where Dick Irvin Sr,Toe Blake and Larry Robinson fit on these lists?

butterfly_style
8-15-05, 8:06 AM
Great coaches usually come from former lousy players.


Ummm . . .Amo . . .what about Larry Robinson ? Jacques Lemaire ? Bob Gainey ?

Rusty
8-15-05, 9:20 AM
There are always exceptions to the rules.

Robinson hasn't been without his problems, he failed miserably with LA and slid into a perfect situation in Jersey.

Gainey as well had his trials and tribulations, he is better suited to upper management, remember when he "removed" himself from behind the bench?

I just get this feeling that this whole Gretzky coaching thing is just a publicity stunt.

grim
8-15-05, 9:27 AM
I just get this feeling that this whole Gretzky coaching thing is just a publicity stunt.

I don't think so. I think he just wants to get closer to the action. But maybe he should have arranged to be a part owner of the Red Wings instead of the Coyotes before trying this.

Rusty
8-15-05, 9:36 AM
He can be just as close to the action sitting 1 row up behind the players, a lot of owners do this exact same thing.

I really think that he is going to fail, I hope for his sake he doesn't, but I just get this feeling he is not going to be as good as some people think.

grim
8-15-05, 9:48 AM
He can be just as close to the action sitting 1 row up behind the players, a lot of owners do this exact same thing.

I really think that he is going to fail, I hope for his sake he doesn't, but I just get this feeling he is not going to be as good as some people think.

Hmmmm. You can't fail at something if you never try. His mother is dying of lung cancer. He may be planning to shake his life up a bit and stay busy after she is gone.

Rusty
8-15-05, 2:24 PM
If that's the case then why not wait until later, there are some real good coaches out there like Nolan who are waiting for the right oppurtunity, let them coach and pay more attention to the running of the team where he belongs.

Should be quite difficult to fire himself as well.

grim
8-15-05, 2:28 PM
If that's the case then why not wait until later, there are some real good coaches out there like Nolan who are waiting for the right oppurtunity, let them coach and pay more attention to the running of the team where he belongs.

Should be quite difficult to fire himself as well.

"Where he belongs"? Says who? Rusty why do you care if he coaches Phoenix? If he wants to give coaching a shot... well... he's Wayne Gretzky and who's going to stop him? Nolan? You mean Ted?

Amoroq
8-15-05, 4:27 PM
Ummm . . .Amo . . .what about Larry Robinson ? Jacques Lemaire ? Bob Gainey ?Never said there weren't great players who coach or manage just as well. I haven't done any major research on this and I suppose I should, but it seems to me that the most successfull coaches were lousy players. So I revise my statement, bad players make better coaches. :conspire:

Amoroq
8-15-05, 4:31 PM
Add George Armstrong to that list.To be fair to George he was a mid season replacement and only coached 47 games in the NHL. The follwing year he returned to a more comfortable position, scouting.

charlio lemieux
8-15-05, 6:10 PM
Wayne wasn't just a great player. Statistically he was the Greatest ever. Perhaps that will give him an edge with the players. It's hard to argue with a guy who has more assists than the second all-time scorer has points.

Gretzky's biggest problem may be in expecting too much from his players. They don't have his skill and won't be able to do some of the things Gretz can come up with.

Everything he does he does well so why should coaching be different. If he has to he will remove himself from behind the bench.

He's there min 2 yrs.

Newfie John
8-15-05, 8:05 PM
The thing I don't like about Gretzky coaching is that eventually he will have to be fired. That will be a sad day in hockey, IMO.

Leafs_Fa_Life
8-15-05, 8:09 PM
The thing I don't like about Gretzky coaching is that eventually he will have to be fired. That will be a sad day in hockey, IMO.

Technically he won't be fired. They'll go to him like a week before, and tell Wayne that the organization hasn't been going in the direction we thought it would go in when we hired you. Then Wayne will "resign" from his position as head coach ;)

For the record, I think he'll fail :thumb:

Rusty
8-16-05, 1:27 AM
grimster I could care less if he coaches in Pheonix, I just made an off hand remark that generally great players do not make good coaches.

If his mother is dying of cancer then he should stay in the front office where he can take time to visit and make her comfortable, coaching is not something that you can do such things as leave the club to be with her.

I just believe it may end up being a huge mistake, if he excels good for him, but history has shown us that for the most part Super Stars do not make good coaches, they are better off in upper management.

grim
8-16-05, 9:44 AM
grimster I could care less if he coaches in Pheonix, I just made an off hand remark that generally great players do not make good coaches.

If his mother is dying of cancer then he should stay in the front office where he can take time to visit and make her comfortable, coaching is not something that you can do such things as leave the club to be with her.

I just believe it may end up being a huge mistake, if he excels good for him, but history has shown us that for the most part Super Stars do not make good coaches, they are better off in upper management.

Right. Whatever.
You can watch Ted Nolan sit.
I'll watch Wayne Gretzky coach.

Rusty
8-16-05, 1:09 PM
Sheesh grimster, what's up?

If I was in his position and my mother was suffering from cancer I would not commit myself to coaching and managing a team, coaching takes up enough of ones time, add on managing the team at the same time, and it leaves very little time to breathe as it is.

Didn't people get on Quinn's case for doing both jobs as well?

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the Gretzky thing.........

grim
8-16-05, 1:48 PM
Sheesh grimster, what's up?


I was going to ask you that. Lately you've been as surly as Todd Bertuzzi's aunt Greta. Sheesh Rusty.

Iced Tea
8-16-05, 1:56 PM
http://www.planet-smilies.de/brutale/brutale_004.gif Rusty and grim, settle down and take any personal problems to PMs or MSN or Jerry Springer.

Better yet, take a vacation from posting on HS. It helped me a lot. :D

Rusty
8-16-05, 3:43 PM
I have been surly in the past, I admit it, but I assure you I am not being grumpy with you right now.

I am just trying to argue my side of the issue.

Maybe I need to use more smilies, that is my big problem, it is hard to tell if someone is really upset or yanking your chain on the forum if you don't come right out and say you are pulling their leg.

grim
8-16-05, 4:09 PM
This Leafs Lindros signing thing Rusty... it's like we all know some slutty girl that a few of our friends (Philly Phil and Manhattan Al) have been passing around for years... and we have been joking about her sluttiness all this time and how Phil and Al are stupid to have anything to do with her... but suddenly... YOU are dating her... and now you expect us to watch our mouths because she is your girlfriend.

Or something. :]

Iced Tea
8-16-05, 4:15 PM
This Leafs Lindros signing thing Rusty... it's like we all know some slutty girl that a few of our friends (Philly Phil and Manhattan Al) have been passing around for years... and we have been joking about her sluttiness all this time and how Phil and Al are stupid to have anything to do with her... but suddenly... YOU are dating her... and now you expect us to watch our mouths because she is your girlfriend.

Or something. :] :rollover:

grim makes a good point.

Rusty
8-16-05, 4:58 PM
Obviously you think that I have turned a blind eye toward his injury history simply because he is now a Leaf. Couldn't be further from the truth. It worries me to think that he could pull a Gilmour and get knocked out on his first shift as a Leaf, I won't lie to you about that. All I said was it should be intersting, nothing more, nothing less. Or is the word Interesting a show of emotion?

What do you want me to say grimster? I never wanted him while he was in Philly, that whole Leafarazzi crap about him coming here in a trade only to have it nixed one minute and on the next grew somewhat tiresome.

I will admit I wanted him on the Leafs quite sometime ago, but that is when he first came into the league while he was in his prime.

What do you want me to say grimster?

Do you want me to fawn all over him? or do you want me to revolt against my team for having the gaul to sign him when we all know he is one hit away from death?

What can I do to please you, or give you a warm fuzzy feeling?

grim
8-16-05, 8:02 PM
What do you want me to say grimster?


I don't know Rusty. I'm just having a laugh. Same as ever. Eric shmeric. I hope he works out for you guys. He was one of my favorite players back when he was fearsome. But since you asked, maybe you could cut out that "why is everybody always picking on the poor leafs" act you've developed lately. Maybe you could replace it with some of that funny Alfieclown hair routine you're so good at. Peace. :]

Rusty
8-16-05, 10:57 PM
Okay.

"why is everybody always picking on the poor leafs" act?

That was so last week, get with the program, I am back to my old self!!!!

Amoroq
8-17-05, 1:03 AM
Oh The Good Times (http://www.leafsfanclub.homestead.com/BioBallardControversy.html)

HAROLD BALLARD: 37 Year Cup Drought - The Legacy of Harold Ballard

Its a long read. I dare any diehard Leaf fan to get through it without feeling ill. :conspire:

Rusty
8-17-05, 9:24 AM
Am I feel ill just seeing the name Ballard, and I mean your post not the article.....

But then again we are all lemmings right that do not think that our franchise has ever done wrong!

:rolleyes:

grim
8-17-05, 9:58 AM
Okay.

"why is everybody always picking on the poor leafs" act?

That was so last week, get with the program, I am back to my old self!!!!

Okay that's good Rusty ... because I was almost ready to call the friendly people with the rubber cube van ... and have you taken down to the Tim Horton Happiness Center for the Level 3 (sports forum moderator strength) De-Leafication. :]

http://www.911filmcars.com/images/amb_06a.jpg

grim
8-25-05, 2:42 PM
"It was 14 years ago that a young Sundin felt the disappointment of Lindros snubbing the Quebec Nordiques. Sundin would eventually be traded and get the job Lindros had always coveted, leader of the Leafs."

*blink* :eek:

he did print that (http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFreePress/Sports/2005/08/15/1173540-sun.html)

swflyers25
8-25-05, 4:25 PM
Sundin eager for another Cup run... (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1124979040105&call_pageid=968867503640&col=970081593064&t=TS_Home)

One question though, when was his first Cup run? If he wants to have a Cup run he needs to leave Toronto. :laughing:

KB in Kelowna
8-25-05, 4:52 PM
Sundin eager for another Cup run... (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1124979040105&call_pageid=968867503640&col=970081593064&t=TS_Home)

One question though, when was his first Cup run? If he wants to have a Cup run he needs to leave Toronto. :laughing:

I guess that means he won't be heading to Philly either :pimp:

MadDevil
8-25-05, 4:54 PM
Dammit, you beat me to it.:laughing:

slapshot™
8-25-05, 8:24 PM
"It was 14 years ago that a young Sundin felt the disappointment of Lindros snubbing the Quebec Nordiques. Sundin would eventually be traded and get the job Lindros had always coveted, leader of the Leafs."

*blink* http://hockeystation.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

he did print that (http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFreePress/Sports/2005/08/15/1173540-sun.html)

Sundin used the time to work on his physique, trying to keep ahead of Father Time now that he's 34. He's trim and well tanned from indulging in his second love of golf.

Does that mean that if Sundin starts chain smoking (if he hasn't, already) he could pass for John Daly? Damn, I gotta get out to the links to get rid of this spare tire....

http://www.nndb.com/people/577/000026499/john-daly-golfer.jpg

swflyers25
8-25-05, 11:31 PM
I guess that means he won't be heading to Philly either :pimp:

He'll get a lot closer to actually winning a Cup if he did come to Philly. He could play for a real coach and have decent players on his roster. :thumb:

Newfie John
8-25-05, 11:41 PM
He'll get a lot closer to actually winning a Cup if he did come to Philly. He could play for a real coach and have decent players on his roster. :thumb:

You're right, he would be closer to a cup. New Jersey isn't that far from Philly is it? :laughing:

KB in Kelowna
8-26-05, 12:02 AM
You're right, he would be closer to a cup. New Jersey isn't that far from Philly is it? :laughing:

Nice one Johhny, thanks for taking my wing on that one! :thumb:

swflyers25
8-26-05, 1:40 PM
You're right, he would be closer to a cup. New Jersey isn't that far from Philly is it? :laughing:

Face facts Johnny boy, Sundin would be better off on any team except the Leafs. :laughing: :nod:

bluemeanie
8-26-05, 1:57 PM
Face facts Johnny boy, Sundin would be better off on any team except the Leafs. :laughing: :nod:

LAUGH OUT LOUD !!!! It's soooo true.

Amoroq
8-28-05, 6:12 PM
Big SIGH!!

LINK (http://www.tmlforum.net/index.php?topic=4926.0)


A big welcome to smashing_pumpkins our newest contributor

Here is a little about smashing_pumpkins in his own words directly from his web site:

" I am an aspiring sports writer and I am currently trying to gain more exposure on the internet. I write for many hockey sites regularly but I am still looking for one real website to settle down with. I'm 14 years old.

/me starts chanting the serenity prayer!!

KB in Kelowna
8-28-05, 7:32 PM
Big SIGH!!

LINK (http://www.tmlforum.net/index.php?topic=4926.0)


A big welcome to smashing_pumpkins our newest contributor

Here is a little about smashing_pumpkins in his own words directly from his web site:

" I am an aspiring sports writer and I am currently trying to gain more exposure on the internet. I write for many hockey sites regularly but I am still looking for one real website to settle down with. I'm 14 years old.

/me starts chanting the serenity prayer!!

:roll: :roll: :roll:

charlio lemieux
8-30-05, 12:48 PM
This is the leafs with Lindros being the only player out of position.



Lindros - Sundin - O'neill

Tucker - Allison - Domi

Ponikarovsky - Antropov- Belak

Kilger - Stajan - Perrott

McCabe Khavanov

Klee Kaberle

Berg Pilar/ Colaiacovo

The wings look pretty weak. Here's what hopefully takes the ice Oct. 5.


Lindros - Sundin - O'neill

Ponikarovsky - Allison - Stajan

Tucker - Antropov - Perrott

Kilger - Wilm - Domi

McCabe Khavanov

Klee Kaberle

Pilar Colaiacovo


I think Ponikarovsky has a better scoring touch than Antropov, maybe Tucker too. But his size, 6" taller and 40+lbs heavier than Tucker, tips the scales so to speak.
Stajan appeared to be a very good all-round player in his rookie year, with a nice combination of skill, defence and a great work ethic. A good complement to any line.
Perrott's speed is what got him on the third line. Being able to drop the gloves helps too. A good crash/hustle line.

The fourth line should be able to eat up some minutes just grinding along the boards.

Love it hate it laugh at, this is all the Leafs have to work with.
The line-up I proposed will most likely never be iced because Quinn loves his veterans. It would not surprise me if he started Lindros, Allison and Sundin all at centre either.

Amoroq
8-30-05, 5:56 PM
Tucker - Sundin - O'neill

Ponikarovsky - Allison - Antropov

Lindros - Stajan - Domi

Kilger - Wilm - Perrott


McCabe - Khavanov

Klee - Colaiacovo

Belak or Berg - Kaberle

(Pilar-IR)

grim
9-13-05, 2:53 PM
The Hockey News has some yearbooks for sale for ALL the Canadian teams....

https://secure.indas.on.ca/care/hnc/bookstore/special_books.php3#POOL05

The Vancouver version
https://secure.indas.on.ca/care/hnc/bookstore/images/covers/yrbook0506-Vancouver.jpg
The Edmonton version
https://secure.indas.on.ca/care/hnc/bookstore/images/covers/yrbook0506-Edmonton.jpg
The Calgary version
https://secure.indas.on.ca/care/hnc/bookstore/images/covers/yrbook0506-Calgary.jpg
The Montreal version
https://secure.indas.on.ca/care/hnc/bookstore/images/covers/yrbook0506-Montreal.jpg
The Toronto/Ottawa version
https://secure.indas.on.ca/care/hnc/bookstore/images/covers/yrbook0506-TorontoOttawa.jpg


Hey wait a minute...

leaferfan87
9-13-05, 3:08 PM
Haha...weird though. I mean I assume that Ottawa and Toronto are together because were both in Ontario, but then why would Calgary and Edmonton not be together?

Madferret
9-13-05, 3:10 PM
Haha...weird though. I mean I assume that Ottawa and Toronto are together because were both in Ontario, but then why would Calgary and Edmonton not be together?

What's that word again....(?)

Inferiority Complex

Newfie John
9-13-05, 3:20 PM
Tucker - Sundin - O'neill

Ponikarovsky - Allison - Antropov

Lindros - Stajan - Domi

Kilger - Wilm - Perrott


McCabe - Khavanov

Klee - Colaiacovo

Belak or Berg - Kaberle

(Pilar-IR)

Quinn has been toying with the idea of putting Steen and Sundin on the same line. Steen is also Sundin's room mate. How do these lines look? I'm keeping in mind that Lindros, Allison, and Sundin will all start the year at center.

Steen - Sundin - O'niell
Tucker - Allison - Czerkawski
Antropov - Lindros - Ponikarovsky(new sky line)
Kilger - Stajan - Domi

Mccabe - Kaberle
Khavanov - Klee
Berg - Colaiocovo
Brown

Belfour
Telly

That's not a bad top 3 lines at all. The defence is basically the same as what we started with last year, only we've got Khavanov and Colaiocovo instead of Marchment and Pilar. Thats actually an improvment really. We could have a 100 point season with this lineup, IMO.

Asterix
9-13-05, 4:20 PM
Okay, it's not quite a link, but it's still something that I needed to share. NJ will appreciate it for sure! ;) :nod:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/JLpics/sneeze2rm.jpg

scorpionn
9-13-05, 6:41 PM
Not a bad lineup NJ, I would just swap Steen and Stajan. Stajan definately deserves more ice time and you can't really just throw a rookie in on the top line.

Also, I wouldn't be suprised if Kronwall made the squad instead of Colaiacovo.

leaferfan87
9-13-05, 8:46 PM
Okay, it's not quite a link, but it's still something that I needed to share. NJ will appreciate it for sure! ;) :nod:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/JLpics/sneeze2rm.jpg

I found that one pretty amusing.

Newfie John
9-14-05, 6:15 AM
Not a bad lineup NJ, I would just swap Steen and Stajan. Stajan definately deserves more ice time and you can't really just throw a rookie in on the top line.

Also, I wouldn't be suprised if Kronwall made the squad instead of Colaiacovo.

I'd like to leave Kronwall in the A for one year getting top minutes.

Platapie
9-17-05, 8:59 AM
Okay, it's not quite a link, but it's still something that I needed to share. NJ will appreciate it for sure!

While I think the idea of Montreal being overly physical is not overly realistic, that cartoon is absolute gold.

Asterix
9-20-05, 1:34 AM
While I think the idea of Montreal being overly physical is not overly realistic, that cartoon is absolute gold.
Sneezing is being physical? :conspire: :rollover: