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Leafs_Fa_Life
7-14-05, 1:10 AM
As the non-waiver deadline approaches we might as well have a thread to discuss the goings on. Three trades went down today.
First one, Jay Payton to the A's for Chad Bradford. He should help the BoSox bullpen.
Secondly, the Rockies sent Preston Wilson to the Nats for Zach Day and J.J. Davis.
Finally, the Rockies sent Joe Kennedy and Jay Witasick to the A's for Eric Byrnes.
Also, an article today from the Sun Sentinel in South Florida.
DETROIT ? By no means are the Marlins resigned to dealing A.J. Burnett before month's end, but that hasn't stopped suitors from lining up for the prospective free agent.
The Padres, White Sox and Blue Jays are the latest trio of contending clubs to express serious interest in the hard-throwing right-hander. Marlins scout Gene Watson was in Chicago over the weekend for the A's-White Sox series, and the Padres scouted Burnett's 14-strikeout outing last week in South Florida.
Of the three, it's the Blue Jays, reeling from the recent loss of ace Roy Halladay to a leg injury, who could wind up providing the best match.
The Marlins are known to covet Toronto's rookie left-hander Gustavo Chacin, and a major league source said Tuesday the Blue Jays would be willing to part with him in a deal for Burnett. The key would be getting Burnett signed to a contract extension during a 72-hour negotiating window.
"If [Toronto] could sign Burnett, the deal would get done now," the source said.
While the Orioles have been portrayed as having the best chance to sign Burnett during the season, due mainly to his wife's Maryland roots, the Blue Jays should not be discounted.
Jays pitching coach Brad Arnsberg is one of Burnett's closest friends, dating to their partnership with the Marlins in 2002-03. What's more, Blue Jays ownership has authorized General Manager J.P. Ricciardi to increase the club's payroll from $50 million to an average of $80 million the next two seasons.
Ricciardi recently called Marlins GM Larry Beinfest and told him to check back with him before dealing Burnett. Those in Burnett's camp are intrigued and watching closely to see if a deal can be struck.
The Jays, searching for another right-handed hitter, would have some interest in third baseman Mike Lowell should the Marlins insist on linking him to Burnett. Toronto also might be willing to take outfielder Juan Encarnacion in exchange for Frank Catalanotto, a left-handed hitter who could platoon with Jeff Conine.
The Marlins have liked Catalanotto for years and tried to acquire him in August 2003 after Lowell suffered a broken hand. Several clubs have expressed trade interest in Catalanotto, who was batting .286 with four home runs in a part-time role.
But it's Chacin, 24, who would be the key to any deal with the Jays. The stockily built Venezuelan is 7-5 with a 3.57 ERA that ranks 10th in the American League. He is making the major league minimum and wouldn't be eligible for salary arbitration for several more seasons.
Lefty Ted Lilly and young right-hander David Bush are other starters the Jays would discuss, but the Marlins don't like either as much as Chacin.
Before the Marlins trade Burnett, they must be certain they can find a suitable replacement in the rotation. That's why they have spent time discussing not only deals involving Burnett but side deals that could net his ultimate replacement.
According to major league sources, the Marlins have expressed interest in right-handers Javier Vazquez (Diamondbacks), Bronson Arroyo (Red Sox), Aaron Harang (Reds), Josh Fogg (Pirates), Gil Meche (Mariners) and Jason Jennings (Rockies). Lefties Mike Maroth (Tigers) and ex-Marlin Mark Redman (Pirates) are other possibilities, although Redman can opt for free agency at season's end.
Vazquez, a Marlins target last winter, would prefer to pitch closer to his Puerto Rico home and can demand a trade at season's end. He is signed through 2007 and due about $8 million a season after the Yankees' contribution is factored in.
Meanwhile, former Yankees reliever Mike Stanton, released Monday, is expected to sign with a new team by Thursday. The Marlins continue to monitor the situation, but Houston, one of Stanton's top choices, has no interest.
Leafs_Fa_Life
7-22-05, 1:45 PM
The Rangers are shopping the free swinging Alfonso Soriano. However, his unwillingless to move to the outfield could affect whether he gets dealt or not. If he's willing to move to CF then the Yankees could make a strong push for him in the next week.
The Rangers are shopping the free swinging Alfonso Soriano. However, his unwillingless to move to the outfield could affect whether he gets dealt or not. If he's willing to move to CF then the Yankees could make a strong push for him in the next week.
Who would the Yankees deal do you think to get back Soriano? I was bummed to see him leave NY but obviously landing A-Rod was well worth it.
I don't see it because the Yanks don't need Soriano's bat. Giambi has found his stroke big time. Robinson Cano has settled in nicely to the #2 slot behind Jeter. If the Yanks make any kind of significant trade it has to be for pitching.
Leafs_Fa_Life
7-22-05, 3:32 PM
Who would the Yankees deal do you think to get back Soriano?
No idea, Mel. The talks between the two teams haven't really picked up, so I haven't really seen any mention of possible packages the Yankees could send to Texas. Prospects Duncan and Hughes were what was rumoured in any Oakland deal for Kotsay, but I think a team like Rangers would prefer to get MLB players in return for a guy with the bat of Soriano. If I were to guess though, I'd say the Rangers would want pitching back. I doubt the Yankees would deal somebody like Pavano (just throwing a name out there) because the market for starting pitchers at this year's deadline is very weak and they wouldn't be able to go out and acquire an arm to replace him in another deal.
No idea, Mel. The talks between the two teams haven't really picked up, so I haven't really seen any mention of possible packages the Yankees could send to Texas. Prospects Duncan and Hughes were what was rumoured in any Oakland deal for Kotsay, but I think a team like Rangers would prefer to get MLB players in return for a guy with the bat of Soriano. If I were to guess though, I'd say the Rangers would want pitching back. I doubt the Yankees would deal somebody like Pavano (just throwing a name out there) because the market for starting pitchers at this year's deadline is very weak and they wouldn't be able to go out and acquire an arm to replace him in another deal.
The Yankees aren't in a position to make any kind of deal. Most current-value players have no trade clauses. Biggest name without one is Sheffield but he has made it clear he wants no part of any trade.
Pavano, Wright and Brown are on DL.... Wang who was called up from tripleAAA is on DL. They just signed Al Leiter as an emergency starter last weekend. With the exception of Johnson and Mussina (and now Lieter) they literally can't name starters from day to day.
There's no way in the world any quality pitching is leaving the Yankees in any kind of trade. They don't have it to spare. Starts by recent aquistion May and Redding were disastrous.
They have to ride out these injuries or else trade a very angry Gary Sheffield along with some young guys for a good starter. My guess is they ride out the injuries, unless they can pick the bones of a non-contender looking to dump salary.
Newfie John
7-22-05, 4:53 PM
Jays sent Mcdonald to the Tigers.. Notta clue as to what we got back though.
The Insider
7-22-05, 8:29 PM
Jays sent Mcdonald to the Tigers.. Notta clue as to what we got back though.
The ever famous player to be named later :rolleyes:
That to me is so dumb, a deal should have to have all players move to their respective teams before anyone can play. Maybe someone can explain the rules and regulations of the player to be named later in a trade, since I am clueless on that.
Leafs_Fa_Life
7-22-05, 9:36 PM
The ever famous player to be named later :rolleyes:
That to me is so dumb, a deal should have to have all players move to their respective teams before anyone can play. Maybe someone can explain the rules and regulations of the player to be named later in a trade, since I am clueless on that.
I found this little blurb on it that might clear things up for you.
Teams often postpone the final terms of a trade 1) to better assess what positions their team needs to fill and 2) to better judge the other team's talent before closing the deal. When setting up a "player to be named later" transaction, the teams generally agree on a list of five to 10 players from which the final selection will be made. Players to be named are rarely of star caliber.
So the Jays probably have a few guys in the Tigers minor league system that they have their eye on, but would like a bit more time to scout them. However with the trade deadline coming up and Placido Polanco going on the DL, the Tigers needed a middle infielder now. So we get "a player to be named later" deal.
Leafs_Fa_Life
7-23-05, 10:58 PM
Joe Randa got sent to the Padres today. He'll replace Sean Burroughs at 3rd base for the Padres. The Padres also have another trade pending the approval of Phil Nevin. The deal would send Nevin to the O's for Sidney Ponson. Nevin has a no-trade clause though, and he has used it in the past to veto a deal that would've sent Griffey to the Padres.
Speaking of Griffey, he's quietly put up a very solid season, and if Cincy is willing to eat some contract they might be able to find someone to take him. However, it doesn't look like they'll eat any of Junior's contract, and might be more likely to trade a young stud like Adam Dunn or Wily Mo Pena. Which of course makes no sense, and is why Cincy is one of the worst run franchises in baseball.
To continue with the Reds, Austin Kearns has been recalled from minors and the Cubs really like him. The kid struggled in his stint earlier this year, but he has loads of power potential and would give Chicago another solid bat to go with Ramirez, Burnitz, and Lee.
Yankees get 27-year-old right-hander from Rockies
The New York Yankees acquired pitcher Shawn Chacon from the Colorado Rockies for a pair of minor leaguers on Thursday night, filling the opening in their injury-ravaged rotation.
In exchange for Chacon, a 27-year-old right-hander, the Rockies get Ramon Ramirez and Edwardo Sierra.
Chacon was an All-Star for the Rockies in 2003, when he had 11 wins at the All-Star break. But he didn't get another victory and finished 11-8 with a 4.60 ERA.
Colorado moved him to the bullpen the following year and while he had 35 saves, he also had nine blown saves to go along with a 1-9 record and a 7.11 ERA. He is 1-7 with a 4.09 ERA this year in 12 starts and one relief appearance.
Via: ESPN.com (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2118888&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233).
Now I'm hoping the Mets don't get out done by the Yanks before Sunday and hopefully NYM can get Alfonso Soriano to fill that second base void and add a much needed bat near the top of the lineup.
Looks like Soriano is now off the Mets' radar, as they now look to land Manny Ramirez in a blockbuster.
From several sources (blogs, sports outlets, etc.) this is what is possibly on the table:
...buster olney at ESPN.com says mets, red sox & devil rays are in talks to send manny ramirez and dannys baez to the mets, mike cameron and aubrey huff to the red sox and prospects to the devil rays...
...i talked to two sources that say this has legs...Via: Metsblog.com (http://www.metsblog.com/blog/_archives/2005/7/29/1089372.html).
The Mets were in this situation last season and they traded away Scott Kazmir, so is it worth it to possibly lose the future of Milledge and Petit, for a run at a postseason appearance in 2005?
This is going to be an intriguing weekend checking my Mets' RSS feeds.
Also: Manny a Met? 3-way trade discussed (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/story/332701p-284308c.html).
I was just about to post this JR.
It's on MLB.com -> http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050729&content_id=1149708&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Manny to the Mets with his league leading 92 RBI's? That must make you pumped.
Do you think it's the Omar Minaya Dominican connection again? Pedro and Omar are pals. Pedro and Manny are both Dominican ex- Red sox... :conspire:
At any rate, I would think you'd be esctatic to get Manny, He's kinda brain dead in the outfield... but his bat is so worth it. The Mets would also aqcuire TB closer Baez. But Looper is a good closer right? which one will move to setup role?
It's beyond me why the bosox would wanna move one of the league's premier sluggers, unless he's really pressing for a trade. Aubrey Huff to the bosox, along with Cameron for the Mets. How is Cameron, I don't even know? Actually never mind, I just pulled up his stats: .265 - 10 HR - 32 RBI.
Yeah I'd be syched if I was you. :thumb:
Yes it is definitely exciting to say the least, but at the same time I'm trying not to get my hopes up.
Ramirez's bat is the main thing the Mets are after here. He comes to Queens and would jump into a team first in home runs and RBI, with a decent average of .275 too. In the outfield, I would imagine they would move Cliff Floyd to right and let Manny play left, with Beltran in centre.
Re: Looper. He's been so-so. At times he'll shut the ninth inning down with ease, other times he really struggles to get outs. If Danny Baez were included, I would prefer him to be the set up man, pitching the eighth and the seventh when necessary. Keep Looper the closer for now.
Mike Cameron is a much better defender than Manny Ramirez, that's for sure. I was pleased when they signed him a couple seasons ago, but after leaving Seattle his number have dropped (as you pointed out). So overall the Mets would be getting the better end of the deal.
The only thing that has me worried is A) the possibilty of trading away two great minor leaguers (Milledge, Petit) and B) taking on Manny's contact would likely push the Mets' over the luxury tax threshold, something the Wilpons [Mets owners] do not want this season.
Anyways it should be fun to follow this along until Sunday night. If nothing happens, I won't be too disappointed, because this building process isn't only a one year thing, because Pedro and Beltran are signed for multiple years. But it would be nice to make a playoff push in likely Piazza's last season in the orange pinstripes.
I as a Yankee fan would LOVE to see Manny get traded in exchange for Huff and Cameron . That would help the Yanks.
THe bosox losing Manny would be like the Yanks losing Sheffield or A-rod or Matsui.
Manny is their #1 slugger. Seriously this will hurt them if it happens.
During the Yanks loss tonight, they were giving live updates on this story. The very last I heard was the the Sox pulled the brakes... they want more in return for Manny, and I don't blame them.
Manny has said he would like to play in NY. Growing up in Washington Heights, right across the Harlem river from Yankee Stadium. But I think the Pedro / Minaya connection has him gung ho for the Mets. That's my guess. They Yanks couldn't afford him anyway... and frankly don't need another slugger. They'd probably wind up trading what little youth they have left to land Manny.
And that theoretical deal would likely involve young 2B Robinson Cano... who I don't want to see leave the Yanks under any circumstances. That kid's got a bright future. Of course the Yanks had another bright-futured 2B by the name of Soriano, who's near 40/40 rookie season fetched A-Rod in a trade.
Any way I don't know how I twisted this into a Yanks discussion :laughing:
I hope the Mets pry Manny away from those dirty sox.
Leafs_Fa_Life
7-30-05, 12:08 AM
Definitely a great deal for the Mets if it goes through. Manny would give the Mets a proven producer, and could give Beltran the protection he needs to have another huge second half. Add Floyd, Wright, and even Piazza to the mix, and you got enough mashers to make a run in the NL East. Reyes has also seen his average jump 16 points in the past ten games, which is another good sign. Now if only the kid could learn to walk a bit more ;)
I also like the Baez pickup because if gives the Mets some insurance, just in case Looper falters down the stretch. Going by the numbers though, he's been pretty good in the past couple of week. In July he's only allowed multiple runners in 2 of his 9 appearances. In June that number was 5 of 11, and he allowed a baserunner in all but one outing :eek: So it looks like Looper has been better, but Baez is a hardthrower and should be a good setup man for the Mets.
From a Boston perspective they get better defensively with Cameron, and maybe the short porch in LF will give him a spike in homeruns. Also, I believe Damon is a free agent in the offseason, and if he chooses to sign with, I dunno, the Yankees then Cameron would give the BoSox a guy who could play center for them. However, his bat is still a downgrade from Manny's and Cameron's performance in the playoffs has been nothing but horrible.
The X-factor in this whole thing is Aubrey Huff. If he can hit like he's capable of hitting then this trade might not turn out so bad for Boston. He's still a fairly young player, and is capable of 30 homers, 100 ribbies, .300/.360/.500 and would be an upgrade offensively over Millar or Mueller depending on whether they use him at 3rd or 1st. He has struggled mightly this year though, so nothing is guaranteed.
As for Tampa Bay, they'll remain in the basement for some time yet :thumb:
From the newspapers and newswires (from my RSS feeds) this morning:Three-team megadeal hits snag; deadline looming
A proposed three-team deal involving the Boston Red Sox, New York Mets and Tampa Bay Devil Rays "hit a roadblock" Friday night, according to a baseball official familiar with the discussions, and now appears unlikely to happen at all.
The deal proposed would have sent unhappy Boston slugger Manny Ramirez and Tampa Bay closer Danys Baez to the Mets, with the Red Sox acquiring outfielder/designated hitter Aubrey Huff and outfielder Mike Cameron, and the Devil Rays getting two prospects apiece from the Mets and Red Sox.
But with a 4 p.m. ET deadline looming Sunday, it could be too late to finish the blockbuster on time. An executive with one of the three teams said late Friday night that the teams have now decided if they can't get the deal patched back together by about noon Saturday, they will have no choice but to move on.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2119978&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233Manny money costing Mets
$64 million owed Ramirez kills 3-way deal
BY ADAM RUBIN AND BILL MADDEN
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITERS
HOUSTON - A blockbuster three-team trade that would have landed Manny Ramirez in Flushing was ultimately nixed by the Mets last night because they would have had to inherit the remaining $64 million on the moody Red Sox slugger's contract.
The trade, which was actively discussed all day yesterday, would have sent Ramirez along with Tampa Bay closer Danys Baez to the Mets, with Braden Looper, Mike Cameron and Tampa Bay lefty slugger Aubrey Huff going to the Red Sox.
The Devil Rays then were to get Red Sox pitching prospect Anibal Sanchez and a top prospect from the Mets, believed to be Lastings Milledge.
"This deal was very close to happening," a high-placed baseball source familiar with the negotiations told the Daily News last night. "When you think about it, despite Manny's money, it's unbelievable the Mets would back out of this. It would've gotten them into the playoffs and been a bonanza for their TV network next year."
Because of all of those potential upsides for the Mets, there was a chance the deal might yet be revived, although a Boston source told The News that the Red Sox were not prepared to pay any of the money owed Ramirez.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/story/332830p-284430c.html Buzz: The Manny ThreeWay
by Matthew Cerrone at 08:04AM (EDT) on July 30, 2005
?as of saturday morning, here?s where we?re at?
?well, it?s obvious these talks with tampa bay and boston are legit?no question about that?
?the most popular version of the deal making its way around the rumor mill is the mets getting manny ramirez and danys baez, the sox getting cameron and huff, while the devil rays get yusmiero petit, lastings milledge, kelly shoppach and anabel sanchez?the mets, also get all of manny?s contract?
?shoppach, however, is said to be on his way to colorado for larry bigbie, who was acquired for eric byrnes last night?which doesn?t bode well for tampa bay?s involvement in the manny-talks?
?another version of the deal would have the mets also giving up aaron heilman, while getting back julio lugo, who would likely slot in at second?
?like in the soriano-swap, the mets are still reluctnat to part ways with lastings milledge?especially if they are also taking on all of manny?s money?
?buster olney of espn, and a other sources through other papers, seem to think the three sides have agreed to work until noon today, and if a deal isn?t reached it will be scratched so that each team can work other options before the deadline?
?the mets are still eyeing soriano, and want adrian gonzalez in the deal, as well, if it is to ever happen?the cubs interest in soriano is strong, but the rangers don?t see how they can get what the need from chicago?also, some people have suggested the red sox want milledge so they can spin him to texas for soriano themseleves?
?mike jacobs name has come up in talks with the pirates for daryl ward and jose mesa?which is odd, because everyone and their brother has said he is best suited on an american league team where he can dh?
?i?ll be in a meeting all morning?out around 11am, so i will hop and give an update around then?as always, eric has the wheel, so if something happens while i am away, he?ll have you covered?
?have a great day?
http://www.metsblog.com/blog/_archives/2005/7/30/1090517.html
Blurb from Yahoo fantasy news re: Alfonso Soriano
Jul 29 Rangers second baseman Alfonso Soriano hit his 26th home run Thursday. It was a solo shot off Orioles pitcher Jason Grimsley.
Views: Soriano is driving up his trade value for the Rangers. He ranks fourth in the American League in home runs (26) and he's eighth in RBI (69). It wouldn't be surprising if he ends up switching leagues over the weekend, landing on the Mets' roster.
leaferfan87
7-30-05, 3:01 PM
That's an intriguing trade rumor J.R.
Looks like the Jays are standing pat though.
Leafs_Fa_Life
7-30-05, 7:21 PM
On the Jays broadcast they just said Manny was pulled from the starting lineup :eek: :thumb:
On the Jays broadcast they just said Manny was pulled from the starting lineup :eek: :thumb:
From MLB.com
BOSTON -- Another day, another significant plot twist regarding Red Sox slugger Manny Ramirez. Penciled into the original lineup for Saturday night's game against the Twins, it was announced roughly five minutes before game-time that the Red Sox had a new lineup and Ramirez's name was not in it.
The Red Sox also announced that they had not reached a trade involving Ramirez.
There was a statement from the club, saying, "After meeting with Manny Ramirez, manager Terry Francona made the decision shortly before game time that, under the circumstances, it was in the best interests of the club and of Manny that he not be in the starting lineup tonight. Terry Francona will be available after the game for further comment."
Is Ramirez staying or going? That was the buzz all around Fenway Park on Saturday, as media, fans and players alike wondered if Ramirez was spending his final hours in a Red Sox uniform.
Nobody will now for sure until Sunday's 4 p.m. ET trade deadline.
But Ramirez's last-minute scratch from the lineup certainly added further intrigue to the situation. Roughly 15 minutes before the first pitch, public address announcer Carl Beane announced Ramirez as the starting left fielder, hitting cleanup.
Then came the press box announcement 10 minutes later that he was out of the lineup.
Ramirez's removal from the lineup came right on the heels of multiple reports that said talks of a three-way trade that would have sent Ramirez to the Mets had cooled to the point of no return.
The Devil Rays were the third team involved in the discussions. The apparent stumbling block, according to The Boston Globe, was the request by Tampa Bay for the Red Sox to involve their top prospect, shortstop Hanley Ramirez, in the deal.
The deal that was rampant on the rumor mill had outfielders Aubrey Huff and Mike Cameron coming to Boston along with right-hander Aaron Heilman. The Mets would have received the lethal bat of Ramirez, along with Devil Rays closer Danys Baez and shortstop Julio Lugo. The Devil Rays were looking for four prospects in the exchange.
However, there were indications that the Red Sox were trying to work out separate deals with the Mets involving Ramirez and one with the Devil Rays regarding Huff.
One high-ranking Major League Baseball source told MLB.com that the Mets felt that Boston's asking price was too high, and that the ball is in the court of Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein to revive the talks before Sunday's deadline.
It has been a whirlwind few days for Ramirez.
Earlier this week, Sports Illustrated reported that Ramirez had recently asked Red Sox ownership for a trade, complaining of a lack of privacy in Boston. Red Sox president/CEO Larry Lucchino confirmed the outfielder's request during a radio interview with WEEI-850 in Boston on Thursday, but admitted that it would be hard to deal Ramirez because he's due to make roughly $60 million over the balance of his contract, which expires following the 2008 season.
If the Red Sox don't trade Ramirez before the end of this season, he becomes a 10-5 man (10 years in the Major Leagues, five with the same team), meaning he would have veto power over any deal.
Ramirez became a central figure in Boston this week for other reasons, as well. Following Tuesday's emotional win over the Devil Rays (when Matt Clement was struck by a line drive and Trot Nixon injured his oblique muscle), Francona asked Ramirez if he could postpone a day off that had been originally planned for Wednesday afternoon.
Ramirez declined, saying that he needed the rest, even though the Red Sox had a scheduled day off on Thursday. The result was that the left fielder received a considerable amount of boos from the Fenway faithful on Friday night against the Twins. During Ramirez's time with the Red Sox, he has typically enjoyed a good relationship with the home crowd.
David Ortiz, Ramirez's close friend and fellow RBI machine, wasn't impressed by the boos.
"Terrible. They should never boo Manny here," said Ortiz. "The crowd can't be hard on Manny yet because nothing happened with Manny yet. What if they don't get to trade Manny? They've got to stick with Manny all year long. Are they going to keep booing him?"
While Ramirez seldom expresses his thoughts to the media, Ortiz said that his friend couldn't help but be hurt by the boos.
"Hey, let me tell you, he's a human being just like everyone else," said Ortiz. "I'm telling you, he's got feelings like everyone. I haven't seen a player ever who gets booed in his hometown and doesn't get bothered. You tell me one. You get booed by your own people? It's not like he has anything against the fans here, either. He's got nothing against the fans. The fans should really appreciate what Manny Ramirez has done here every year."
The fans didn't have the chance to appreciate Ramirez on Saturday, given his removal from the lineup.
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050730&content_id=1151094&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
I dont know if it's true, but during today's Yankee game, they said Manny "relieved himself" behind the scoreboard in left field. They didn't say if it was during the game or not.
They guy is a huge offensive talent.... but he's really lacking in the brains department. I talk to a lot of sox fans and they all agree that there's just nobody home in his head.
A lot of teams don't want him for that reason. RBI leader or not.
I can see Omar and Pedro welcoming him with open arms... the Dominican connection again. But I also understand why many teams don't want him. The guy is just a weirdo.
Leafs_Fa_Life
7-30-05, 9:28 PM
I dont know if it's true, but during today's Yankee game, they said Manny "relieved himself" behind the scoreboard in left field. They didn't say if it was during the game or not.
It was during a game. There was a meeting at the mound, and Manny had to take a wee-wee. So he went through this door in the Monster and he relieved himself in a cup. He reappeared in LF two pitches into the at-bat...right before a ball was hit into LF.
It was during a game. There was a meeting at the mound, and Manny had to take a wee-wee. So he went through this door in the Monster and he relieved himself in a cup. He reappeared in LF two pitches into the at-bat...right before a ball was hit into LF. That was a great sequence. :laughing: If he comes to Shea Stadium, he'll have to relieve himself in the picnic area.
Manny was also booed on Friday night by the Red Sox fans at Fenway Park, because of the swirling trade winds and his request to be traded. Gabe Capler took his place this afternoon and was welcomed with a long standing ovation.
Unfortunately things look dead for the three way deal, mainly because the Mets' ownership didn't want to inherit the $64 million from Manny's remaining salary. Although it was reported this afternoon, that Fred Wilpon did sign off and agreed to let Omar Minaya make the possible deal. Perhaps it's too late and not enough time to complete the trade, considering the number of players and the amount of cash exchanging hands.
This just may be the finale. :(
Manny not heading to Mets as Sox end talks
BY ADAM RUBIN AND BILL MADDEN
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITERS
HOUSTON - Manny Ramirez may have been pulled from the Red Sox lineup last night, but he isn't headed to Flushing.
As the Mets pushed for the completion of a three-team swap that would have landed Ramirez and Tampa Bay's Danys Baez and Julio Lugo, the Red Sox ended the talks, citing "insufficient talent" in return for Ramirez, a baseball executive familiar with the talks said.
The remaining scenario that could bring Ramirez to Shea would have the Mets and Red Sox dealing directly with each other before today?s 4 p.m. trading deadline.
Earlier in the day, the Devil Rays had insisted that Red Sox shortstop prospect Hanley Ramirez be included in their haul, which, before Boston balked, stood as the deal's lone stumbling block.
Devil Rays officials apparently thought they would receive Mets prospects Lastings Milledge and Yusmeiro Petit, along with Red Sox minor leaguers Anibal Sanchez and Kelly Shoppach, but later learned that Milledge would have been shipped to Boston. An executive participating in the talks said all money issues had been resolved.
Via: New York Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/story/332830p-284430c.html).
I'll have to wait and see how things look in the morning.
Leafs_Fa_Life
7-31-05, 2:29 AM
There's always the winter meetings, J.R. ;)
Oh what the difference a couple days makes.
Booed on Friday night, removed from the starting lineup on Saturday and Sunday, then comes in 48 minutes past the trade deadline to hit the game winning RBI for the Red Sox and is a hero in Boston again.
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050731/capt.bxf10507312140.twins_red_sox_bxf105.jpg
And I quote:
"I want out of Boston for the third time in four years."
"Forget about the trade, this is the place I want to be. They want to win. I want to win too. I'm back... I'm just here to play and win, I'm a gangster."
:confused:
Don't take this dope seriously, when he's off the field. His credibilty has been thrown out the window. Going from one polar opposite to the next in a couple days really makes his character look bad. But what else is new?
The Mets want his bat, however. And hopefully by February 2006, he will be a Met.
Leafs_Fa_Life
8-01-05, 2:20 PM
"Forget about the trade, this is the place I want to be. They want to win. I want to win too. I'm back... I'm just here to play and win, I'm a gangster."
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:roll: :roll: :roll:
I fell off my chair when the guy on Sportsnet said that.
It was during a game. There was a meeting at the mound, and Manny had to take a wee-wee. So he went through this door in the Monster and he relieved himself in a cup. He reappeared in LF two pitches into the at-bat...right before a ball was hit into LF.
WHoa whoa whoa.... back up!
You mean to tell me he didn't come back out from behind the wall until the at-bat was 2 pitches under way??? :eek:
:eek:
Why didn't anyone from the Red Sox notice that Manny was not in left field and call time?
I gotta see a clip of that! That is unbelievable at the professional level. It sounds like a cute story you'd here about a kid's little league game.
EDIT: That reminds me of a clip I saw years ago, when a guy on the Portland Trail Blazers got tapped to go in the game as a sub... He jumps up from the bench and whips off his warmups, only to discover he had a regular t-shirt on and not his game jersey. I almost pee-d my pants laughing so hard. The guys on his bench were laughing so hard a few of them were crying. Even his coach was laughing. :laughing:
One of those rare surreal moments in sports.
Oh what the difference a couple days makes.
Booed on Friday night, removed from the starting lineup on Saturday and Sunday, then comes in 48 minutes past the trade deadline to hit the game winning RBI for the Red Sox and is a hero in Boston again.
Red sox fans are silly that way, like when they were trying to pretend how they still wanted Nomar after the A-Rod trade fell through. :rolleyes: Nomar was as good as gone and Boston fans were all bad mouthing the guy to death. Then he was suddenly good again.
And oh do they ever hate A-Rod who was a few formalities away from joining their team. I daresay that Red Sox fans are the most hateful fans in all of sports. That's just my HO.
If Ramirez got traded... You'd see Red sox fans spitting on the ground in disgust at the mere mention of his name... even after being instrumental in their world series run less than a year ago.
And oh do they ever hate A-Rod who was a few formalities away from joining their team. I daresay that Red Sox fans are the most hateful fans in all of sports. That's just my HO.It's a good thing the Red Sox weren't able to complete that deal, because with Alex Rodriguez, Boston would never have won the World Series. You know, the whole you can never win with A-Rod thing. :laughing:
;)
If Ramirez got traded... You'd see Red sox fans spitting on the ground in disgust at the mere mention of his name... even after being instrumental in their world series run less than a year ago.Manny Ramirez must be the first player ever that has had somebody trying to trade him before he won the World Series MVP award and then again before the end of the next season.
Leafs_Fa_Life
8-10-05, 3:40 PM
Couple of trades went down yesterday.
Cubs traded LHP Mike Remlinger and cash to Boston for RHP Olivo Astacio.
BoSox traded OF Jose Cruz Jr. to the Los Angeles Dodgers for a player to be named.
Nothing major, but maybe Griffey or Thome get dealt by the end of the month :nod:
LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
8-10-05, 3:46 PM
Couple of trades went down yesterday.
Cubs traded LHP Mike Remlinger and cash to Boston for RHP Olivo Astacio.
BoSox traded OF Jose Cruz Jr. to the Los Angeles Dodgers for a player to be named.
Nothing major, but maybe Griffey or Thome get dealt by the end of the month :nod:
Now all these trades went down after the dealine. Can someone please explain to me why teams still trade after the deadline??? The deadline should stop all trades, right???
Leafs_Fa_Life
8-10-05, 3:47 PM
Now all these trades went down after the dealine. Can someone please explain to me why teams still trade after the deadline??? The deadline should stop all trades, right???
July 31st is the non-waiver deadline. Guys can be traded up to August 31st (when playoff rosters have to be set), but they have to clear thru waivers first. If nobody claims the player then he may be traded.
Leafs_Fa_Life
8-16-05, 7:28 PM
Looks like Ken Griffey Jr. has cleared waivers, and the Chisox have been constantly linked to him. I've also heard rumblings that Mike Sweeney has cleared waivers, but with his contract I'm not sure if there'll be any takers. I wouldn't be surprised if Jim Thome has cleared waivers too, but he's of no value now and the Phillies will probably wait until the winter meetings to deal him.
Leafs_Fa_Life
8-21-05, 11:47 AM
The Twins have claimed Alfonso Soriano off of waivers from the Rangers. So now the Rangers can choose to keep him, or trade him to Minny. It's unlikely the Twins could work out a package that would please Texas, so this was likely just done by Minny to block a potential trade by another contender.
The Twins have claimed Alfonso Soriano off of waivers from the Rangers. So now the Rangers can choose to keep him, or trade him to Minny. It's unlikely the Twins could work out a package that would please Texas, so this was likely just done by Minny to block a potential trade by another contender.
I thought I heard Soriano was unhappy in Texas. :shrug:
Anyway I don't know what happened to him. I remember when he was a rookie on the Yankees (he almost had a 40/40 season in his rookie year). He seemed to have excellent character. Now he seems very arrogant and self righteous. No longer a young go-getter I suppose.
Leafs_Fa_Life
8-21-05, 4:27 PM
I haven't heard anything about him being unhappy or not (although he could be, I wouldn't know since I don't follow the Rangers much). The Rangers do wanna trade him though, but Minny won't offer them a package they like. I guess this means he'll be moved in the winter now, since he didn't clear through waivers. My guess is he ends up on the Mets.
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