View Full Version : Leafs, 'nough said!!
flyerfan2
4-12-05, 11:57 PM
Now what would a trash talk section be without having the Leafs as the first topic in the forum.?? :D
I guess the best part about this whole lockout mess is that the Leafs will be able to golf mid April without the shame of once again being eliminated by that mild manored team from the city of brotherly love. "FOUR".
You know the team that never has a goaltender but always seems to handle that grit filled leadership enforced team with all the key vets that are going to lead them to the promise land,and not to mention elite goaltending.!! :laughing:
I just wish there was a season so we could have had a re-match, bahhhh I'm too depressed to argue, so I'll just agree, the leafs choke agaisnt the flyers.
:slant:
It's about time someone posted something in the trash talk forum. I was going to suggest to the Admin that we shut down the trash forum!
Imagine that flyerfluff posting the first thread in here and its about the leafs.........
:D
hockeyman
4-13-05, 12:29 AM
the only good thing about those dam leafs is mr leetch.. the rest are bums. ah domi has some skills too.
It's about time someone posted something in the trash talk forum. I was going to suggest to the Admin that we shut down the trash forum!
Imagine that flyerfluff posting the first thread in here and its about the leafs.........
:D
That's because JR the Sports Czar isn't here, otherwise he could have easily done the honnour! :D
That's because JR the Sports Czar isn't here, otherwise he could have easily done the honnour! :D
SSSSSSHHHHHHHHH
Don't say that word around here!
We are going to hit the backseat moderators hard here.
With... a rubber duck? :wave:
Know what I'll never understand?
Why Ottawa, Philly and Toronto feel the need to be rock-paper-scissors.
Toronto hammers Ottawa.
Philly destroys Toronto.
Ottawa bashes Philly.
:coffee:
the only good thing about those dam leafs is mr leetch.. the rest are bums. ah domi has some skills too.
Domi's greatest skill is emptying the Flyers bench!!! :laughing:
flyerfan2
4-13-05, 9:19 AM
the only good thing about those dam leafs is mr leetch.. Yes but Leetch now being a member of the Leaf is a sure sign his best days are behind him and that he should probably retire. Toronto = NHL retirement home. :D :D
Actually I heard a rumor that Leetch might really retire.
AFAIK - As of July, he is no longer property of the Leafs.
I think if Sather left NY Leetch would go back to broadway to play a few more years and finish his career there. But that's wishful thinking on my part.
The truth is that the Rangers traded Leetch while he still commanded value. As much as it was an arrow through the heart of Ranger fans... the move fit perfectly with the supposed plan of re-building from the ground up. It still bugs me to this day that he's not a Ranger. :cry:
Know what I'll never understand?
Why Ottawa, Philly and Toronto feel the need to be rock-paper-scissors.
Toronto hammers Ottawa.
Philly destroys Toronto.
Ottawa bashes Philly.
And the Devils are the anvil that crushes all three. :D
The Insider
4-14-05, 9:09 AM
And the Devils are the anvil that crushes all three. :D
Well, I guess you can't argue with that. Although some Philly fans will remind you of Round 1 of last year's playoffs.
And just for anyone who would like to know, since the Leafs moved to the East the playoff records have looked like this:
Toronto vs Ottawa - 4-0(Toronto)
Toronto vs Philly - 2-1(Philly)
Ottawa vs Philly - 2-0(Ottawa)
Jersey vs Philly - 1-1(Tie)
Jersey vs Ottawa - 1-0(Jersey)
Toronto vs Jersey - 2-0(Jersey)
So I guess MadDevil's theory is accurate. ;)
Madferret
4-14-05, 12:53 PM
And just for anyone who would like to know, since the Leafs moved to the East the playoff records have looked like this:
Jersey vs Ottawa - 1-0(Jersey)
We beat Jersey in Rnd 1 in 97(or was it 98?) I believe so that's not entirely true...
Jersey vs Ottawa (1-1)
bluemeanie
4-14-05, 1:26 PM
We beat Jersey in Rnd 1 in 97(or was it 98?) I believe so that's not entirely true...
Jersey vs Ottawa (1-1)
the Leafs moved back to the eastern conf. in the 98-99 season. The sens got lucky in the first round of the 97-98 season.
Madferret
4-14-05, 2:49 PM
the Leafs moved back to the eastern conf. in the 98-99 season. The sens got lucky in the first round of the 97-98 season.
Blue knows...
Blue knows...
Yoata? :conspire: :eek:
Yoata? :conspire: :eek:
Actually I would love to see yoata here.
flyerfan2
4-15-05, 12:42 AM
Actually I would love to see yoata here.Yup me to.we could catch up on old times. :D :conspire:
Yup me to.we could catch up on old times. :D :conspire:
That'd be one quick way for me to feel what it's like to be banned from an internet forum! :eek: :D
bluemeanie
4-15-05, 8:51 AM
We should send out an e-vite to Leafhatred too. I think he's retired though. Can't find him or his trademark "Blow Leaf blow" sign off in any forum, anywhere.
Max Power
4-15-05, 11:49 AM
What about Xfactor? He was after all gods gift to leaf fans =]
bluemeanie
4-15-05, 12:49 PM
What about Xfactor? He was after all gods gift to leaf fans =]
No, the Sens are God's gift to Leaf fans.
Hey Max... your avatar and my avatar are like before and after pictures...pretty cool, hey?
Max Power
4-15-05, 12:58 PM
No, the Sens are God's gift to Leaf fans.
Hey Max... your avatar and my avatar are like before and after pictures...pretty cool, hey?
lol.. I was just thinking that. We just need someone to put a hip of beef hanging and we'd have a set
lapniappe
4-16-05, 8:52 PM
LOL I will come out and say (hehe) that I think the Leafs would have beaten Philidelphia this year. Yes-sir-ee.
flyerfan2
4-17-05, 1:25 PM
LOL I will come out and say (hehe) that I think the Leafs would have beaten Philidelphia this year. Yes-sir-ee.LMAO thanks lappi i needed a good chuckle. :nod: :wave:
Newfie John
4-17-05, 2:00 PM
Last night I attended the final regular season game ever for the St. Johns Maple Leafs. It was pretty emotional. Of course, Leaf ownership shows no class as not one leaf representive came out to give a speech, or to say thank you. Nothing. I just couldn't believe it. Granted, if they did they would have gotten their heads booed off of them, but still, the least they could do is just come to St. John's for a night, say thank you afterall we supported you for 14 years with a miserable franchise truth be told. Just goes to show that leaf ownership doesn't give a rats ass about the loyal people of Newfoundland who stuck with this team through thick and thin.
That was the only thing that soured me that night. The leafs handed the Roadrunners yet another loss, Wellwood with 2 goals. Tellqvist was amazing with 33 saves. At the end of the game I looked up in the pressbox and there was Brian Rogers going crazy with his leaf jersey in his hands. Carlo Colaiocovo puts up his thumb to him and the crowd gave the leafs a standing ovation. The leafs wore their retro jerseys. Kyle Wellwood talked to the fans thanking them for the support, as did Colaiocovo and Tellqvist.
It was quite a night, no thanks to MLSE. I hope that team fails in Toronto, just for the simple fact that MLSE deserves it. It would be nice for them to come crawling back but I know they wouldn't do it protecting their image. The fog devils are coming but, its just not the leafs. I was told that I would probably be brought to tears, I brushed them off and told them they were foolish, but last night I was just overwhelmed and it just sucks to have the team snatched away for petty reasons.
Madferret
4-17-05, 6:32 PM
Last night I attended the final regular season game ever for the St. Johns Maple Leafs. It was pretty emotional. Of course, Leaf ownership shows no class as not one leaf representive came out to give a speech, or to say thank you. Nothing. I just couldn't believe it. Granted, if they did they would have gotten their heads booed off of them, but still, the least they could do is just come to St. John's for a night, say thank you afterall we supported you for 14 years with a miserable franchise truth be told. Just goes to show that leaf ownership doesn't give a rats ass about the loyal people of Newfoundland who stuck with this team through thick and thin.
That was the only thing that soured me that night. The leafs handed the Roadrunners yet another loss, Wellwood with 2 goals. Tellqvist was amazing with 33 saves. At the end of the game I looked up in the pressbox and there was Brian Rogers going crazy with his leaf jersey in his hands. Carlo Colaiocovo puts up his thumb to him and the crowd gave the leafs a standing ovation. The leafs wore their retro jerseys. Kyle Wellwood talked to the fans thanking them for the support, as did Colaiocovo and Tellqvist.
It was quite a night, no thanks to MLSE. I hope that team fails in Toronto, just for the simple fact that MLSE deserves it. It would be nice for them to come crawling back but I know they wouldn't do it protecting their image. The fog devils are coming but, its just not the leafs. I was told that I would probably be brought to tears, I brushed them off and told them they were foolish, but last night I was just overwhelmed and it just sucks to have the team snatched away for petty reasons.
Still a Leaf fan John?
KB in Kelowna
4-17-05, 6:39 PM
^^
^^
and people wonder why I have little sympathy for the owners :mad:
a very Ballard like move on the part of MLSE, which has usually shown more class.
Newfie John
4-17-05, 6:40 PM
Still a Leaf fan John?
I've asked myself that very question but I can't see myself cheering for anyone else. A lot of the older leaf fans had to endure Harold Ballard, I'll just have to take my lumps and endure the idiots who run the team now. Hopefully the next owners will be more Steve Stavroish.
Madferret
4-17-05, 9:23 PM
I've asked myself that very question but I can't see myself cheering for anyone else. A lot of the older leaf fans had to endure Harold Ballard, I'll just have to take my lumps and endure the idiots who run the team now. Hopefully the next owners will be more Steve Stavroish.
MLSE would never dump their przied cash cow John my boy. You go ahead and cheer for the organization that ripped your heart out though... :confused:
The Rover
4-20-05, 8:23 AM
I'm still trying to rationalize why it's okay for every other NHL team to move their franchise out of the Maritimes, but if the Leafs do they are insensitive to the fans, no class etc etc....why should the Leafs stay in the city that is the furthest east in N. America with no other team in sight? Sorry John, sounds like plain sour grapes to me, teams pack up and move and sometimes it is regardless of whether they have been successful or not.
I agree rove, that's pretty much what I have said in the past but all I get is people trashing the Leafs because of who they are.
This is a pure economic move.
Cut dry short sweet and to the point!
I didn't hear the Flames get trashed for moving the team out of St. John!
Nobody peeped when the Habs moved out of Halifax!
Or Charlottetown, or Cape Breton, or Moncton, have I forgotten anywhere else????????? Maybe if I did it is purely because there wasn't as much of a stink kicked up out of those moves!
Newfie John
4-21-05, 2:32 PM
I agree rove, that's pretty much what I have said in the past but all I get is people trashing the Leafs because of who they are.
This is a pure economic move.
Cut dry short sweet and to the point!
I didn't hear the Flames get trashed for moving the team out of St. John!
Nobody peeped when the Habs moved out of Halifax!
Or Charlottetown, or Cape Breton, or Moncton, have I forgotten anywhere else????????? Maybe if I did it is purely because there wasn't as much of a stink kicked up out of those moves!
The reason why such a "stink" has been kicked up about this one is that they did it in such a classless matter. We build a stadium for them out of taxpayers dollars, they led us to believe we had the team for good after we built that stadium, then they abandon us leaving us with the baggage of the debt on the stadium. Instead of being honest they made us spend the millions then moved away and left us with millions to pay. Talk about kicking a guy when he's down.
Not only that, but the abscence of any representative to show up to at least thank us for the 14 years we've contributed to their franchise loyally, even though the team hardly ever made the playoffs. To move the most successful AHL franchise ever(according to the AHL President) financially out of the city with great fans supporting you every step of the way and moving the team out? For the sake of travel? Give me a break.
Take a look in the leaf section to see a more complex look at it. The way they've handled this matter was pure gutlessness.
But then again, how could Leaf management ever do anything wrong? :rolleyes:
Why does everyone always figure that they owe them personally?
Madferret
4-21-05, 4:04 PM
Why does everyone always figure that they owe them personally?
They owe me at least one dogged playoff series against the Sens. You guys have four, we just want one.
http://www.senssuck.ca/Lalime.jpg
Madferret
4-21-05, 4:09 PM
NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Selfish lot..
Selfish lot..
That's okay Dev.....
It's the only thing that we Leaf fans have to look forward to. :thumb:
:pimp:
Newfie John
4-21-05, 4:16 PM
Why does everyone always figure that they owe them personally?
:eek: I can't even answer this. You can't be serious. After all I just said you ask me why it's necessary to come and just say thanks? Is it really too much to ask? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
You missed my point John.
Does MLSEL owe you personally? Because that is what I am hearing, I am hearing that they owe you an apology, and a show of personal support.
They are basically business men who are in this business to make money, they hung in there as long as they feasably could, having the last remaining AHL team in Atlantic Canada was getting to be too much of a drain on them, man just look at the road trips they had this past year, yes I know there was something to do with the Labour issue. But realistically it was a no win situation for them.
Believe me John, I feel for you guys out there, but I also see their side of the coin as well.
They are the maple Leafs what can you expect? Class is not their strong point.
The Insider
4-21-05, 8:12 PM
They are the maple Leafs what can you expect? Class is not their strong point.
That's a little harsh... sure they may not be perfect, but recently the team has made great strides to improve their image and clean out the closets from the Ballard Era.
Newfie John
4-21-05, 9:30 PM
Does MLSEL owe you personally? Because that is what I am hearing, I am hearing that they owe you an apology, and a show of personal support.
I never said I wanted an apology because it would have no meaning anyway as they didn't mean it. You must of missed my point there, because I wouldn't want their heartless apology.
They are basically business men who are in this business to make money, they hung in there as long as they feasably could, having the last remaining AHL team in Atlantic Canada was getting to be too much of a drain on them, man just look at the road trips they had this past year, yes I know there was something to do with the Labour issue. But realistically it was a no win situation for them.
It had a lot to do with that actually. Like I said it's one extra flight per road trip, not a big deal at all and its blown out of proportion. Brian Rogers travels with the team and he said that the team just had a bad luck of the draw with the schedule. This year's was horrible. That made people think that the location had everything to do with it. It doesn't. They make one extra flight per road trip according to Rogers. I estimate thats 10 extra flights per season. Now tell me, is that worth moving the team for?
Believe me John, I feel for you guys out there, but I also see their side of the coin as well.
I see their side of the coin aswell, but when you analyze that side you realize that its really not worth it. Not even close. To break the hearts of thousands of people just for the sake of the reasons stated? Makes no sense.
Newfie John
4-21-05, 9:32 PM
That's a little harsh... sure they may not be perfect, but recently the team has made great strides to improve their image and clean out the closets from the Ballard Era.
Not in my view. A few years ago I actually talked with Peddie for about a half hour. I always modeled him to be the guy I want to grow up to be like, my attitude has totally changed and I wish I could have that conversation with him again because I'd love to get some answers.
Thorty_Fan_4_Life
4-22-05, 12:03 AM
Clean out their closets from the Ballard era??????
Come on you have to be joking, Fergy is worse. I'm from St.John's and I think MLSE has taken the whole thing way to far. I mean yes the team is leaving fine we can get over that. we really have no choice, that is beside the point though.
Ok they tell everyone in august the team is leaving, then they talk about how fan support and season ticket holders have went down.... What do they expect???
They start marketing a team in toronto that doesn't even exsist yet. The fact is they are still the ST.JOHN'S maple leafs not the marlies, MLSE acts like St.John's doesn't even exsist yet and they expect people not to be upset.
The baby leafs wear Marlies jerseys in a practice. they already have the marlies website up and running ( which could prove to cost them, because a law suit is possible ) and now they are talking about putting the marlies logo on the ice during the two playoff games at the ACC.... I don't see much class there. The fact is this city supported that team for 14 yrs, no matter what way you look at it that put money into the hands of MLSE and now they act like St.John's never exsisted. It shows little to no class and it's just a kick in the teeth after St.John's fans showed so much support over the years. Enough said
Oh and John, It was Beller who started the whole thing with Rog lol. Just thought I would put that in there
Found this on the web (See my sig)
Sorry its long. John you are right. Its got NOTHING to do with financecs :)
Dear Loyalsjmapleleafsfan:
Thank you for taking the time to share your recent message board posting concerning the price of tickets for our AHL club next season. While you claim that you weren't expecting a response, you no doubt would be disappointed in not receiving one. So here is the response you were seeking.
Your primary assertion--that we are relocating the St. John's Maple Leafs to Toronto because of cost savings--is simply wrong. To the contrary, we will be assuming significantly higher costs operating the club in Toronto than we have in St. John's. The relocation of our AHL club to Toronto is entirely based on better meeting the player development needs of our organization. It will result not only in a superior training environment for our young players--particularly as we move toward building an elite training centre for our organization--it enables our prospects to work far more closely with our on and off-ice hockey staff to better develop all aspects of their game.
In addition, relocation will dramatically reduce the complexity of our road trips--where every trip starts with a flight to Toronto because St. John's does not have a direct flight to the location of any other AHL club--and enable the club to avoid three-week road trips such as it endured this season. As you know there were no other AHL clubs anywhere near the region of our home rink. Every other Canadian NHL club had departed the Atlantic Provinces two or more years ago. Your statement regarding Houston's proximity to the AHL hub is misguided. Houston offers substantially more direct flights to AHL cities than does St.
John's, which offers none, and has a proximate rival in San Antonio.
In your letter you compare ticket pricing in Toronto to ticket pricing in places like Hamilton, Manitoba and Edmonton. Where you fall short is in also comparing the costs between the four markets. Much like living expenses that you might experience such as housing costs, in a significantly larger market like Toronto, the costs associated with operating a hockey club are akin to operating any other form of business--we face higher operations costs, higher labour costs and higher numbers across the board on the expense side of the ledger. In deterring our ticket prices for next season we took two factors into account--those costs, and the price of comparable entertainment options in our market. It simply makes no sense to determine ticket pricing by looking at what's charged in other AHL markets, particularly those in places such as Hamilton, Manitoba and Edmonton. That's not applicable in other businesses and neither is it in hockey.
We have been successful in presenting ticket prices that are family-friendly and comparable to other forms of entertainment in the Toronto area. For example, our season ticket prices are scaled from $15 to $49 per game. Compare that with a Toronto Rock lacrosse game, scaled at $21 to $52. Compare that to a ticket to Canada's Wonderland, $25 to $50. Or compare that to the price of last year's Toronto Roadrunners AHL games, $27 to $51.50 (including a mandatory club fee). In fact, our average ticket price next season will be $24.07, compared with $34.54 for the Roadrunners a year ago--and we're even throwing in the parking for fans seated in our $49 and $45 sections (and if you've paid for parking in the Toronto area recently you can appreciate that cost savings). (Believe it!!!)
You'll note that the $49 and $45 tickets constitute only 16 percent of our entire arena seating. Further comparative analysis of the Toronto hockey market reveals that 79 percent of our seats will be priced at $30 or less, compared with only 40 percent priced at $30 or less by the previous local AHL club. In fact, 55 percent of our seats are priced at $20 or less--while our predecessor offered no season seats at less than $27. In an effort to make our games affordable to young fans and their families, we are introducing a youth season ticket where children 12 years and under will realize a 40 to 50 percent savings on tickets priced at $20 to $30.
I trust you'll find this informative. Thank you for your past support of the St. John's Maple Leafs and the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Regards,
John Lashway
Vice President,
Communications & Community Development
Newfie John
4-22-05, 6:05 AM
Found this on the web (See my sig)
Sorry its long. John you are right. Its got NOTHING to do with financecs :)
Dear Loyalsjmapleleafsfan:
Thank you for taking the time to share your recent message board posting concerning the price of tickets for our AHL club next season. While you claim that you weren't expecting a response, you no doubt would be disappointed in not receiving one. So here is the response you were seeking.
Your primary assertion--that we are relocating the St. John's Maple Leafs to Toronto because of cost savings--is simply wrong. To the contrary, we will be assuming significantly higher costs operating the club in Toronto than we have in St. John's. The relocation of our AHL club to Toronto is entirely based on better meeting the player development needs of our organization. It will result not only in a superior training environment for our young players--particularly as we move toward building an elite training centre for our organization--it enables our prospects to work far more closely with our on and off-ice hockey staff to better develop all aspects of their game.
In addition, relocation will dramatically reduce the complexity of our road trips--where every trip starts with a flight to Toronto because St. John's does not have a direct flight to the location of any other AHL club--and enable the club to avoid three-week road trips such as it endured this season. As you know there were no other AHL clubs anywhere near the region of our home rink. Every other Canadian NHL club had departed the Atlantic Provinces two or more years ago. Your statement regarding Houston's proximity to the AHL hub is misguided. Houston offers substantially more direct flights to AHL cities than does St.
John's, which offers none, and has a proximate rival in San Antonio.
In your letter you compare ticket pricing in Toronto to ticket pricing in places like Hamilton, Manitoba and Edmonton. Where you fall short is in also comparing the costs between the four markets. Much like living expenses that you might experience such as housing costs, in a significantly larger market like Toronto, the costs associated with operating a hockey club are akin to operating any other form of business--we face higher operations costs, higher labour costs and higher numbers across the board on the expense side of the ledger. In deterring our ticket prices for next season we took two factors into account--those costs, and the price of comparable entertainment options in our market. It simply makes no sense to determine ticket pricing by looking at what's charged in other AHL markets, particularly those in places such as Hamilton, Manitoba and Edmonton. That's not applicable in other businesses and neither is it in hockey.
We have been successful in presenting ticket prices that are family-friendly and comparable to other forms of entertainment in the Toronto area. For example, our season ticket prices are scaled from $15 to $49 per game. Compare that with a Toronto Rock lacrosse game, scaled at $21 to $52. Compare that to a ticket to Canada's Wonderland, $25 to $50. Or compare that to the price of last year's Toronto Roadrunners AHL games, $27 to $51.50 (including a mandatory club fee). In fact, our average ticket price next season will be $24.07, compared with $34.54 for the Roadrunners a year ago--and we're even throwing in the parking for fans seated in our $49 and $45 sections (and if you've paid for parking in the Toronto area recently you can appreciate that cost savings). (Believe it!!!)
You'll note that the $49 and $45 tickets constitute only 16 percent of our entire arena seating. Further comparative analysis of the Toronto hockey market reveals that 79 percent of our seats will be priced at $30 or less, compared with only 40 percent priced at $30 or less by the previous local AHL club. In fact, 55 percent of our seats are priced at $20 or less--while our predecessor offered no season seats at less than $27. In an effort to make our games affordable to young fans and their families, we are introducing a youth season ticket where children 12 years and under will realize a 40 to 50 percent savings on tickets priced at $20 to $30.
I trust you'll find this informative. Thank you for your past support of the St. John's Maple Leafs and the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Regards,
John Lashway
Vice President,
Communications & Community Development
The most expensive seat in St. Johns was $20. Maybe this was a money grab... but if financials was the reason why didn't they just raise the prices here? So basically MLSE has lied in saying this wasn't financial when they said to the press it was about practice time, etc. Amo you said yourself you didn't think this was a business decision. Makes no sense that they couldn't raise the prices here. Or why they needed more money since we bring the most revenue in total ever for the AHL. This logic just doesn't make any sense to me. Why move a successful franchise out of a place where it's failed before for financial reasons? I think that email could have been a cop out by John Lashway, because it goes against everything MLSE has said in the press.
The most expensive seat in St. Johns was $20. Maybe this was a money grab... but if financials was the reason why didn't they just raise the prices here? So basically MLSE has lied in saying this wasn't financial when they said to the press it was about practice time, etc. Amo you said yourself you didn't think this was a business decision. Makes no sense that they couldn't raise the prices here. Or why they needed more money since we bring the most revenue in total ever for the AHL. This logic just doesn't make any sense to me. Why move a successful franchise out of a place where it's failed before for financial reasons? I think that email could have been a cop out by John Lashway, because it goes against everything MLSE has said in the press.Well sure its a self serving email response. But its a response. And John I said, I don't think this is JUST a business decision, other factors were involved.
Thorty_Fan_4_Life
4-22-05, 4:00 PM
It is a very calculated response. but none the less a response. MLSE needs to get their act together though and have everyone on the same page, because they are just throwin around excuses/reasons and they are contradicting eachother.
The Insider
4-22-05, 9:33 PM
Clean out their closets from the Ballard era??????
Come on you have to be joking, Fergy is worse. I'm from St.John's and I think MLSE has taken the whole thing way to far. I mean yes the team is leaving fine we can get over that. we really have no choice, that is beside the point though.
Ok they tell everyone in august the team is leaving, then they talk about how fan support and season ticket holders have went down.... What do they expect???
They start marketing a team in toronto that doesn't even exsist yet. The fact is they are still the ST.JOHN'S maple leafs not the marlies, MLSE acts like St.John's doesn't even exsist yet and they expect people not to be upset.
The baby leafs wear Marlies jerseys in a practice. they already have the marlies website up and running ( which could prove to cost them, because a law suit is possible ) and now they are talking about putting the marlies logo on the ice during the two playoff games at the ACC.... I don't see much class there. The fact is this city supported that team for 14 yrs, no matter what way you look at it that put money into the hands of MLSE and now they act like St.John's never exsisted. It shows little to no class and it's just a kick in the teeth after St.John's fans showed so much support over the years. Enough said
While I understand your view, there are some things that I take issue with.
Firstly, until anyone actually sees the Marlies logo at centre ice during a Leaf home game at the ACC, arguing about it is trivial. I can understand the anger of the St John's fans who would take it personally with the logo at a Leafs game, but until it actually happens, accusing the team of having no class is jumping the gun a little bit.
Secondly, they should be marketing the team in Toronto right now because now is when they can get the Toronto fans to take a sneak peak at the team before they move here in the fall. Now I know it is unusual to begin marketing before a move actually takes place, but this is a farm team(or even a branch) of the Toronto Maple Leaf organization and rather then starting cold, they are trying to get the team to a running start when it moves to Toronto, it may anger the fans in St John's, but thinking from a business standpoint, why wouldn't you want to maximize the exposure that the new fans will get to the new team?
I think that there is a lot of frustration with the team moving, which is very understandable, I would have hate and be bitter towards anyone who had any part in moving a team I grew up watching and put my money into. But it is a move that was inevitable with no atlantic teams, and no one occupying the Ricoh centre in Toronto.
Newfie John
4-23-05, 3:48 PM
Well sure its a self serving email response. But its a response. And John I said, I don't think this is JUST a business decision, other factors were involved.
Yes its a response, and a nice cop out.
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