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slapshot™
6-20-05, 2:35 PM
What do you think is a better race - NASCAR or F-1?
And WHY?
For myself, I'm a newbie at the racing gig and still haven't figured out what the hell NASCAR stands for and what the diff. is between CART and F-1.
Somehow I figured there might be more "honest" responses if this thread was in the Trash talk section.
VVVRRROOOOOOOMMMMMM...............
National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing. I've never really been into this series much. I'll watch the Daytona 500 and the Brickyard but I enjoy F1 and open wheel a lot more. I can't explain why, its just the way it is. I do enjoy the street courses but the only one in NASCAR that I can think of is Watkins Glenn. There are more, but because I don't follow it, I don;t know them.
Cue grimster's photographic eveidence! :D :D :D
I am biased so I will stay out of it.
slapshot™
6-20-05, 2:46 PM
I am biased so I will stay out of it.
And that has nothing to do with the fact that you are a Leaf fan? Right? :eek:
Seriously Rusty, you're a NASCAR freak....I'd like to hear the NASCAR side of things.
What do the Leafs have to do with a discussion on Racing? ;)
What do you want to hear?
Me thinks that this is the type of discussion over a few Timmy's brew!
There is a huge difference between Indy and F1, the cars only appear to be similar, the similarity between the two is only skin deep!
Leafhatred
6-20-05, 3:32 PM
In Formula 1 there are only six cars racing, like in yesterday's U.S. Grand Prix.
Kind of like when the Stupid leaf last won the Cup.
Please Hatred keep it on topic. It has nothing to do with your fave subject.
If you have an honest opinion we would like to hear it.
Madferret
6-20-05, 3:51 PM
What do the Leafs have to do with a discussion on Racing? ;)
What do you want to hear?
Me thinks that this is the type of discussion over a few Timmy's brew!
Hey Rusty I've been giving Slappy some idea's for your upcoming weekend sleepover at Chez Slapshot (Sens PJ's, Oilers blankets, a Maple Leaf paraphernalia Bonfire...)
I am too biased too.
2003 Ferrari F2003-GA: 930 BHP @ 19000 RPM
CART cars: 10,700 RPM rev limit, 675 to 700 HP.
Qualifying times at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal 2002.
Formula One: 1:12.836
CART 1:18.959
And the sound of the cars... to me CART cars moan. Formula One cars scream. I like screamers.
go_leafs_go02
6-20-05, 6:09 PM
F1 hands down. I would love to go a race and see it. NASCAR doesn't appeal to me, and once had to waste an evening when a family friend came over and wanted to watch a NASCAR race...cars going around and around don't do it for me.
I also like the different types of tracks there are in F1. Sure there are some differences in NASCAR, but in general, they are all oval, and just don't appeal.
and grim, screamers are the way to go....VROOOMMM!!!!
Formula One, Champ Car, Indy Racing League. Now that is all the same.
I think the appeal of N-A-S-C-A-R (please spell it out, I do) to me is that the cars they race are similar to the cars that I drive. There seems to be a connection there, watching those cars race.
With those open wheel racers, there's only one good driver (Schumacher) and he wins every race, from what I have seen. Even though I don't know about that series, I wouldn't bet against him.
Also when can you see these races? Like 6 am on a Sunday morning. There's no flippin' way I'm getting up on a weekend that early. NASCAR always has afternoon or primetime races, which is easy for viewers all over the continent to watch.
This weekend once again proved what a farce the F-1 series really is.
go_leafs_go02
6-20-05, 9:31 PM
With those open wheel racers, there's only one good driver (Schumacher) and he wins every race, from what I have seen. Even though I don't know about that series, I wouldn't bet against him.
Schumacher this year has one 1 race, and that was with 6 drivers on Saturday. He has been in a slump, but the best team wins..is that such a bad things?
Also when can you see these races? Like 6 am on a Sunday morning. There's no flippin' way I'm getting up on a weekend that early. NASCAR always has afternoon or primetime races, which is easy for viewers all over the continent to watch.
Excuse me? The world is more than just North America. F-1 is primarily a European racing league, but has the global fan-fare as it holds several races out of Europe. You expect a race in Japan to start at 8 PM ET just so you, in a not so F-1 great market can watch it, while there it starts in the morning, but in the middle of the night in Europe.
This weekend once again proved what a farce the F-1 series really is.
I'll agree with this weekend, but the F-1 series is not a farce period. They had one troublesome weekend/grand prix which could be disasterous for the US Grand Prix. However, the rest of the world will still be mainly supportive of the racing league.
slapshot™
7-12-05, 9:54 PM
Looking at the specs of the various cars...Champ, IRL and F-1 there doesn't appear to be much diff...
Check out the comparisions, here -> Edmonton Grand Prix (http://www.champcarworldseries.com/Tech/Car_Comparisons.asp)
I think (from a rookie standpoint) you racing purists are splitting hairs when it comes to open-wheeled racing. If I'm wrong please enlighten me.
Anyway, I'm off to the Grand Prix this weekend. Got my 3-day pass.
I will this weekend slappy!
Maybe i'll see you at the Grand prix Slappy....... :wave:
Check out the comparisions, here -> Edmonton Grand Prix (http://www.champcarworldseries.com/Tech/Car_Comparisons.asp)So those Formula One cars aren't even the fastest open-wheel machine? In fact they're the slowest open wheel car. :eek: Yet another sham exposed. I was under the impression that Formula One was the best of the best in open-wheel, so they'd have the fastest cars. Guess not. +1 for N-A-S-C-A-R.
By the way, great to see that you Albertans are heading out to the track to support the race this weekend. I know of a few people (family, friends) who are doing the same thing. Hopefully it'll be a long tradition for the City of Edmonton to host a Grand Prix event. Just for clarification, it's at City Centre Airport, right?
Yeah its at the City center airport.
I went the other day with my friend and his family friend (doing TV work for the event) and checked out the track, Pretty cool looking.
slapshot™
7-14-05, 12:53 AM
Yeah its at the City center airport.
I went the other day with my friend and his family friend (doing TV work for the event) and checked out the track, Pretty cool looking.
I drive past it every day going home from work and have watched the grandstands grow and grow. It was fun until Monday when they put up some damn white tarp on the chainlink - now I can't see dick.
On the way to Lloydminster this morning I saw two car transporters heading west to Edmonchuck from Tee-Oh.
The buzz in this city is crazy. Everyone is talking about the Grand Prix.
slapshot™
7-14-05, 1:01 AM
Maybe i'll see you at the Grand prix Slappy....... :wave:
I'll be in the Silver grandstand...Sec A Row 1 Seat 28 You can sneak me in a beer! *wink*
Are they not selling beer there??
PS you can sneak me in some beer, cause you are actually of age. :nod:
Yeah actually they are, we went to another grand stand to watch the qualifiying round and people were walking around with beer glasses.
Did you go today?
Yeah actually they are, we went to another grand stand to watch the qualifiying round and people were walking around with beer glasses.
Did you go today?
I did not go to today, Im only going Sunday, Cause im going with my friend using one of his passes.
I heard it was a hoot though.
We had a blast, slappy has pit access so we can basically reach out and touch the cars while they are working on them!
Awesome.... You met up with slappy??
He musta forked out a bunch of money for his passes :nod: :thumb:
slapshot™
7-16-05, 10:16 PM
He musta forked out a bunch of money for his passes :nod: :thumb:
My sweetie is the bestest. It was a birthday present! :)
Here is Paul Tracy..... during the qualifying round (more to follow)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/stopthebiscuit/EGP01a.jpg
...at the paddock area (stripping down a car between races)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/stopthebiscuit/EGP03.jpg
Returning to the paddock from the track after qualifying (Toyota Atlantic Series)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/stopthebiscuit/EGP04.jpg
I got my tickets for Fathers day from the love of my life!
Here are a couple of pics from the last two days of the race.
http://images.snapfish.com/3444797923232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D479%3D%3B38%3 DXROQDF%3E2323972%3A2%3C6%3A2ot1lsi
Here is a picture of Paul Tracy, I waited in line for over an hour to get his autograph, thankfully they cut the line off right behind me!
http://images.snapfish.com/3444797923232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D479%3D%3B38%3 DXROQDF%3E23239727%3A4275ot1lsi
This Tracy at speed:
http://images.snapfish.com/3444797923232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D479%3D%3B38%3 DXROQDF%3E23239727%3A8436ot1lsi
This is AJ Allmendingers car in the pits getting worked on,
http://images.snapfish.com/3444797923232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D479%3D%3B38%3 DXROQDF%3E23239727%3A8469ot1lsi
With the Paddock access Slap has we can wonder around the pits and get rather close to the crews as they are working, especially in the lower classes where we basically could climb into the cars and get pics!
http://images.snapfish.com/3444797923232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D479%3D%3B38%3 DXROQDF%3E2323972%3A3868%3Bot1lsi
KB in Kelowna
7-16-05, 11:33 PM
Very cool pics. Paddock access very nice!
Hopefully it doesn't rain as much as it did today, it was pretty muddy in some spots I tell you.
slapshot™
7-16-05, 11:55 PM
Hopefully it doesn't rain as much as it did today, it was pretty muddy in some spots I tell you.
Slappy + many beers = no mud
Rusty + no beer = lots of mud
What is wrong with this picture?
That's because you hung out in the beer gardens all day!!!!
See:
http://images.snapfish.com/3444797923232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D479%3D%3B38%3 DXROQDF%3E2323972%3A385%3C4ot1lsi
That's because you hung out in the beer gardens all day!!!!
See:
Slappy doing his thing.:laughing:
Is anyone surprised? I mean really, should we really expect him to be doing anything else? =}
He just laughed and cursed you J.............
I moved this to here as I felt it would be better served here in the Other Sports forum.
Hahah awesome guys.
Im so excited its today!!
I can here the Cars practicing from my house.
I might have to keep an eye out for your orange coat Slappy.
Actually slappy is going Hawaiin today!
OOOO Hawaiian, I"ll have to remember that. :wave:
Why the :curse: is the Edmonton Grand Prix blacked out in Ontario? Is it blacked out elsewhere? If it's not sold out, then why punish those who can't do anything about it? Stupid Speed Channel. Ah well, I'll just have to watch yet another N-A-S-C-A-R race this afternoon. :)
Man what an awesome experience. Perfect day outside, 80000 screaming Edmontonians, and an awesome race.
Slapnuts where were you?? i went to your seat after the race and you were a no show.
slapshot™
7-17-05, 10:39 PM
Here are some photos of the Grand Prix from today....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/stopthebiscuit/EGP06.jpg
Atlantic Series car DNF
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/stopthebiscuit/EGP08.jpg
Winner of the Atlantic Series Katherine Legge
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/stopthebiscuit/EGP09.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/stopthebiscuit/EGP10.jpg
2nd place Oriol Servia heading out to the track
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/stopthebiscuit/EGP12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/stopthebiscuit/EGP07.jpg
3rd place finisher Paul Tracy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/stopthebiscuit/EGP11.jpg
7th place Alex Tagliani
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/stopthebiscuit/EGP14.jpg
Paul Newman of Newman/Hass Racing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/stopthebiscuit/EGP17.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/stopthebiscuit/EGP16.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/stopthebiscuit/EGP15.jpg
I can't wait until a NASCAR race comes to Canada. ;) You know it's only a matter of time.
Damn slappy we must have been hot on each others trail.
Cause I was in the Paddock when they brought that Atlantic Series DNF car in.
slapshot™
7-18-05, 1:39 PM
Damn slappy we must have been hot on each others trail.
Cause I was in the Paddock when they brought that Atlantic Series DNF car in.
I buddied up with some chick who was working security at the paddock gate to the track. I had a chair to stand on that gave me a better view to take pics. No jostling with other fans when I was on my perch![/img]
And I was on the other side of the fence to him in the paddock, we stood there for what felt like hours, I wanted to get a picture of each and every car as it was rolled out to the grid, and I wanted a picture of Paul Newman for my wife.
slapshot™
7-22-05, 11:01 AM
And the sound of the cars... to me CART cars moan. Formula One cars scream. I like screamers.
Having my first opportunity to attend a race - the Champ (CART) cars sounded like they were screaming. Looking around in the grandstands and seeing so many people wearing earplugs I can't imagine them wearing them because of the terribly loud moaning of the engines.
Speaking of NASCAR, I was just reading up on Pauls Tracy and his aspirations to join that series. Apparently he has talked with NFL Hall of Famers Troy Aikman and Roger Staubauch about forming a team, called Hall Of Fame Racing.
Not a big fan of NASCAR but I might give it more of a shot if Tracy joins that series. BUT, why I decided to post this was becasue of a post on TSN's your call that made me laugh out loud, because its actually fitting for Pauls style of driving.
Tracy with fenders - a winning combination! :laughing:
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