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KB in Kelowna
6-16-05, 8:13 PM
A very bad cut and paste job by yours truly, but an intersting thread starter:

CP's short list for Team Canada at the 2006 Turin Winter Olympics
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at 15:50 on June 16, 2005, EST.
By PIERRE LEBRUN AND NEIL STEVENS

(CP) - Wayne Gretzky, Kevin Lowe and Steve Tambellini are already at it, compiling a short list of star NHLers to invite to Team Canada's Olympic orientation camp in mid-August. CP has decided to get into the act as well, perhaps giving The Great One a few ideas to ponder?

A look at who might skate for the defending men's Olympic champion Canadians at next February's Winter Games in Turin, Italy:

Sure Bets

Goal: Martin Brodeur, New Jersey Devils; Roberto Luongo, Florida Panthers.

Defence: Scott Niedermayer, New Jersey Devils; Adam Foote, Colorado Avalanche; Chris Pronger, St. Louis Blues; Rob Blake, Colorado Avalanche; Ed Jovanovski, Vancouver Canucks; Wade Redden, Ottawa Senators.

Forward: Mario Lemieux, Pittsburgh Penguins; Joe Sakic, Colorado Avalanche; Jarome Iginla, Calgary Flames; Joe Thornton, Boston Bruins; Vincent Lecavalier, Tampa Bay Lightning; Rick Nash, Columbus Blue Jackets; Shane Doan, Phoenix Coyotes; Ryan Smyth, Edmonton Oilers; Brad Richards, Tampa Bay Lightning; Simon Gagne, Philadelphia Flyers.

Brodeur, Foote, Jovanovski, Niedermayer, Gagne, Iginla, Lemieux, Sakic and Smyth helped Canada win Olympic gold in Salt Lake City in 2002 for the first time in 50 years. The nine were also on the victorious World Cup of Hockey team in 2004. This should be the experienced core of the team for Turin. Lemieux gets the 'C' again.

Blake and Pronger were unable to play in the World Cup because they were recuperating from injuries but their stature should put them on Olympic ice again.

Luongo (two-time world champion), Redden, Doan, Lecavalier and Thornton get in because of their World Cup play, Lecavalier winning the MVP in the NHL tournament last September.

Richards picked up a much-deserved Conn Smythe Trophy as playoff MVP when Tampa won the Cup in June 2004. He'll be even better on the big ice.

Nash, who turned 21 Thursday, is in our lineup for his starring role at the 2005 world championships, where he was the class of the tournament.

We still need one goalie, one defenceman and three forwards to fill out the 23-man Olympic lineup.

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Leading contenders

Goal: Jose Theodore, Montreal Canadiens; Marty Turco, Dallas Stars.

Defence: Eric Brewer, Edmonton Oilers; Jay Bouwmeester, Florida Panthers; Scott Hannan, San Jose Sharks; Robyn Regehr, Calgary Flames, Dan Boyle, Tampa Bay Lightning.

Forward: Kris Draper, Detroit Red Wings; Dany Heatley, Atlanta Thrashers; Kirk Maltby, Detroit Red Wings; Patrick Marleau, San Jose Sharks; Brenden Morrow, Dallas Stars; Martin St. Louis, Tampa Bay Lightning.

Theodore, who showed his big-game prowess when Montreal upset Boston in the first round of the playoffs in April 2004, was the World Cup third-stringer and will push Luongo as the No. 2 man behind Brodeur, especially if he gets off to a great start with the Habs next season. Turco was the world championship third-stringer and will at least probably be invited to the orientation camp after giving up a month of his time in Austria and never once dressing. Hockey Canada doesn't forget those things.

Brewer won Olympic gold in 2002 and the World Cup in '04, but his play tailed off in Edmonton last season. He needs to re-assert himself this fall.

Bouwmeester, Hannan and Regehr were on the World Cup team, and Boyle was one of Canada's top defencemen at the world tourney, not to mention a big part of Tampa's Cup triumph.

Draper, Heatley, Maltby, Marleau, Morrow and St. Louis all were on the World Cup team. While Heatley was once considered a lock for Turin, his play at the World Cup and at the world championship was below his standards.

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Outside shot

Goal: Andrew Raycroft, Boston Bruins; Dwayne Roloson, Minnesota Wild.

Defence: Sheldon Souray, Montreal Canadiens; Bryan McCabe, Toronto Maple Leafs; Chris Phillips, Ottawa Senators; Adrian Aucoin, New York Islanders.

Forward: Mike Peca, New York Islanders; Daniel Briere, Buffalo Sabres; Alex Tanguay, Colorado Avalanche; Brendan Morrison, Vancouver Canucks; Jason Spezza, Ottawa Senators; Mike Fisher, Ottawa Senators; Scott Walker, Nashville Predators.

Roloson (.933) and Raycroft (.926) were among the save percentage leaders during the 2003-2004 season. Raycroft won the Calder Trophy as top rookie. They deserve to be in the mix.

Souray and Phillips had big years on the big ice in Sweden this past year although they struggled somewhat at the world championship. McCabe was a second-team NHL all-star in 2003-04 and has been knocking at the door. Aucoin keeps delivering without notice: 44 points and a plus-29 ratings in 2003-04.

Briere was outstanding at 2003 and 2004 world championships in teaming up with Heatley on gold-medal Canadian squads. Peca was in Salt Lake and remains one of the game's top defensive specialists, not to mention a tremendous leader. All Tanguay does is keep scoring (79 points in 69 games in 2003-04) and yet can't make a Canadian team. Morrison, Walker and Fisher all played for Canada in Austria. Spezza led the AHL in scoring this past season and is ready to take off in Ottawa.

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Wild Cards

Goal: Marc-Andre Fleury, Pittsburgh Penguins.

Defence: Brad Stuart, San Jose Sharks; Mike Rathje, San Jose Sharks; Brad Lukowich, Tampa Bay Lightning; Dion Phaneuf, Calgary Flames.

Forward: Todd Bertuzzi, Vancouver Canucks; Paul Kariya, Colorado Avalanche; Michael Ryder, Montreal Canadiens; Trent Hunter, New York Islanders; Sidney Crosby, the No. 1 overall pick whenever the NHL holds the 2005 entry draft.

Is this the year Fleury shows us why he was the No. 1 overall pick in 2003?

Stuart and Rathje don't get their due because they play in relative obscurity in San Jose but they're among the NHL's top blue-liners. Lukowich, a real long shot, was among plus-minus leaders in 2003-04 at plus-29. Phaneuf will one day be a mainstay on the Canadian blue-line, but this is maybe too early for him.

Let's face it, if Bertuzzi had been reinstated by now, he'd be a sure bet, not a wild card to make this team. He remains the best power forward in the world. But Gretzky won't touch him unless commissioner Gary Bettman puts him back on the ice.

Although he wasn't picked for the World Cup, Kariya was on the 2002 Olympic team and was a second-team NHL all-star just two years ago. It's not as if he's forgotten how to play, he's at his best on the big ice, and a year off might have rejuvenated the nifty forward who meshed so well with Lemieux in Salt Lake City.

Ryder (63) and Hunter (51) were the top two rookie point-getters in 2003-04.

Crosby? If he lights it up in the first three months of his NHL rookie season, maybe Gretzky will hand him the 13th forward spot?


?The Canadian Press, 2005

slapshot™
6-16-05, 9:43 PM
The Owners would be nuts to not allow the NHLPA membership to compete in the Olympics. But, what happens if they can't settle in time? Will the Olympic Committee let them play?

KB in Kelowna
6-16-05, 10:21 PM
The Owners would be nuts to not allow the NHLPA membership to compete in the Olympics. But, what happens if they can't settle in time? Will the Olympic Committee let them play?

Since when has sanity had anything to do with the decision making of NHL ownership? :nod:

There are those who would argue shutting down for 2 -3 weeks in the middle of the season would mean the loss of revenue, just like televising games, or putting the players names on the back of sweaters would affect program sales. But I digress.

As for the International Olympic Committee, well they will make any deal that makes sense(cents or better $$$$).

Having NHL player participation in what is possibly the biggest event in the world would do a lot to overcome bitterness towards the NHL and the players for this lost season of greed avarice an stupidity.

TimmyTabasco
6-20-05, 1:09 PM
A very bad cut and paste job by yours truly, but an intersting thread starter:

CP's short list for Team Canada at the 2006 Turin Winter Olympics
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at 15:50 on June 16, 2005, EST.
By PIERRE LEBRUN AND NEIL STEVENS

(CP) - Wayne Gretzky, Kevin Lowe and Steve Tambellini are already at it, compiling a short list of star NHLers to invite to Team Canada's Olympic orientation camp in mid-August. CP has decided to get into the act as well, perhaps giving The Great One a few ideas to ponder?

A look at who might skate for the defending men's Olympic champion Canadians at next February's Winter Games in Turin, Italy:

Sure Bets

Goal: Martin Brodeur, New Jersey Devils; Roberto Luongo, Florida Panthers.

Defence: Scott Niedermayer, New Jersey Devils; Adam Foote, Colorado Avalanche; Chris Pronger, St. Louis Blues; Rob Blake, Colorado Avalanche; Ed Jovanovski, Vancouver Canucks; Wade Redden, Ottawa Senators.

Forward: Mario Lemieux, Pittsburgh Penguins; Joe Sakic, Colorado Avalanche; Jarome Iginla, Calgary Flames; Joe Thornton, Boston Bruins; Vincent Lecavalier, Tampa Bay Lightning; Rick Nash, Columbus Blue Jackets; Shane Doan, Phoenix Coyotes; Ryan Smyth, Edmonton Oilers; Brad Richards, Tampa Bay Lightning; Simon Gagne, Philadelphia Flyers.

Brodeur, Foote, Jovanovski, Niedermayer, Gagne, Iginla, Lemieux, Sakic and Smyth helped Canada win Olympic gold in Salt Lake City in 2002 for the first time in 50 years. The nine were also on the victorious World Cup of Hockey team in 2004. This should be the experienced core of the team for Turin. Lemieux gets the 'C' again.

Blake and Pronger were unable to play in the World Cup because they were recuperating from injuries but their stature should put them on Olympic ice again.

Luongo (two-time world champion), Redden, Doan, Lecavalier and Thornton get in because of their World Cup play, Lecavalier winning the MVP in the NHL tournament last September.

Richards picked up a much-deserved Conn Smythe Trophy as playoff MVP when Tampa won the Cup in June 2004. He'll be even better on the big ice.

Nash, who turned 21 Thursday, is in our lineup for his starring role at the 2005 world championships, where he was the class of the tournament.

We still need one goalie, one defenceman and three forwards to fill out the 23-man Olympic lineup.

-


Leading contenders

Goal: Jose Theodore, Montreal Canadiens; Marty Turco, Dallas Stars.

Defence: Eric Brewer, Edmonton Oilers; Jay Bouwmeester, Florida Panthers; Scott Hannan, San Jose Sharks; Robyn Regehr, Calgary Flames, Dan Boyle, Tampa Bay Lightning.

Forward: Kris Draper, Detroit Red Wings; Dany Heatley, Atlanta Thrashers; Kirk Maltby, Detroit Red Wings; Patrick Marleau, San Jose Sharks; Brenden Morrow, Dallas Stars; Martin St. Louis, Tampa Bay Lightning.

Theodore, who showed his big-game prowess when Montreal upset Boston in the first round of the playoffs in April 2004, was the World Cup third-stringer and will push Luongo as the No. 2 man behind Brodeur, especially if he gets off to a great start with the Habs next season. Turco was the world championship third-stringer and will at least probably be invited to the orientation camp after giving up a month of his time in Austria and never once dressing. Hockey Canada doesn't forget those things.

Brewer won Olympic gold in 2002 and the World Cup in '04, but his play tailed off in Edmonton last season. He needs to re-assert himself this fall.

Bouwmeester, Hannan and Regehr were on the World Cup team, and Boyle was one of Canada's top defencemen at the world tourney, not to mention a big part of Tampa's Cup triumph.

Draper, Heatley, Maltby, Marleau, Morrow and St. Louis all were on the World Cup team. While Heatley was once considered a lock for Turin, his play at the World Cup and at the world championship was below his standards.

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Outside shot

Goal: Andrew Raycroft, Boston Bruins; Dwayne Roloson, Minnesota Wild.

Defence: Sheldon Souray, Montreal Canadiens; Bryan McCabe, Toronto Maple Leafs; Chris Phillips, Ottawa Senators; Adrian Aucoin, New York Islanders.

Forward: Mike Peca, New York Islanders; Daniel Briere, Buffalo Sabres; Alex Tanguay, Colorado Avalanche; Brendan Morrison, Vancouver Canucks; Jason Spezza, Ottawa Senators; Mike Fisher, Ottawa Senators; Scott Walker, Nashville Predators.

Roloson (.933) and Raycroft (.926) were among the save percentage leaders during the 2003-2004 season. Raycroft won the Calder Trophy as top rookie. They deserve to be in the mix.

Souray and Phillips had big years on the big ice in Sweden this past year although they struggled somewhat at the world championship. McCabe was a second-team NHL all-star in 2003-04 and has been knocking at the door. Aucoin keeps delivering without notice: 44 points and a plus-29 ratings in 2003-04.

Briere was outstanding at 2003 and 2004 world championships in teaming up with Heatley on gold-medal Canadian squads. Peca was in Salt Lake and remains one of the game's top defensive specialists, not to mention a tremendous leader. All Tanguay does is keep scoring (79 points in 69 games in 2003-04) and yet can't make a Canadian team. Morrison, Walker and Fisher all played for Canada in Austria. Spezza led the AHL in scoring this past season and is ready to take off in Ottawa.

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Wild Cards

Goal: Marc-Andre Fleury, Pittsburgh Penguins.

Defence: Brad Stuart, San Jose Sharks; Mike Rathje, San Jose Sharks; Brad Lukowich, Tampa Bay Lightning; Dion Phaneuf, Calgary Flames.

Forward: Todd Bertuzzi, Vancouver Canucks; Paul Kariya, Colorado Avalanche; Michael Ryder, Montreal Canadiens; Trent Hunter, New York Islanders; Sidney Crosby, the No. 1 overall pick whenever the NHL holds the 2005 entry draft.

Is this the year Fleury shows us why he was the No. 1 overall pick in 2003?

Stuart and Rathje don't get their due because they play in relative obscurity in San Jose but they're among the NHL's top blue-liners. Lukowich, a real long shot, was among plus-minus leaders in 2003-04 at plus-29. Phaneuf will one day be a mainstay on the Canadian blue-line, but this is maybe too early for him.

Let's face it, if Bertuzzi had been reinstated by now, he'd be a sure bet, not a wild card to make this team. He remains the best power forward in the world. But Gretzky won't touch him unless commissioner Gary Bettman puts him back on the ice.

Although he wasn't picked for the World Cup, Kariya was on the 2002 Olympic team and was a second-team NHL all-star just two years ago. It's not as if he's forgotten how to play, he's at his best on the big ice, and a year off might have rejuvenated the nifty forward who meshed so well with Lemieux in Salt Lake City.

Ryder (63) and Hunter (51) were the top two rookie point-getters in 2003-04.

Crosby? If he lights it up in the first three months of his NHL rookie season, maybe Gretzky will hand him the 13th forward spot?


?The Canadian Press, 2005

Wow,what depth

I'd keep Phillips, Regehr, Boyle, and Souray off the team. Some notables to add would be Brewer, Aucoin, Bouwmeester or Hannan.

For forwards, I'm not sold on Doan. I like the guy, but I think there are better options. Some notables to add would be

-Bertuzzi..if reinstated..plays well with Sakic.
-Briere..plays great on the international ice
-Tanguay..perhaps now is his chance?
-Kariya..if he can return to form, a no brainer

I think the team should be balanced well with size, and speed.

For goaltending, for sure Brodeur. Backup wise? Let Luongo and Theo battle for it.

As an outside shot, would like to see how Peca plays. He would be an excellent addition, if he returns to form..also would John Madden.

MadDevil
6-20-05, 3:44 PM
Don't know what you guys think about this, but what about Keith Primeau? I know that he isn't exactly the fastest guy out there, but he's big, physical, shuts down the other teams big guns, and is a good leader (although leadership won't be lacked on the team as it is).

I would think that either Peca, Madden, or Primeau would make good shut down centers for Canada, maybe centering the third or fourth line. As for Doan, I think he should be given another shot. He may not have been huge yet on the International stage, but if nothing else he would make a very good checking line winger. Maybe playing with Peca, Madden, or Primeau?

Max Power
6-29-05, 2:32 PM
Some news on this
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp?content=20050628_215650_5640

Naming names for the upcoming Games


Team Canada will defend its Olympic men's hockey gold medal at next year's Winter Games in Torino, Italy.

Sportsnet.ca -- Prior to Hockey Canada's official Team Canada roster announcement on Thursday, Sportsnet has learned the names of the 36 players expected to be invited to the upcoming training camp.

The team will be comprised of a mix of players from the group that won gold at the 2002 Games in Salt Lake City, as well as those who also led Canada to a World Cup title in 2004.

Mario Lemieux's name will be on this list and Steve Yzerman will also get an invite to the orientation camp scheduled August 17-20 in Kelowna, B.C.

Sources tell Sportsnet the 36 man roster will be comprised of 20 forwards, 12 defencemen and 4 goaltenders.

A list Hockey Canada is expected to announce on Thursday.

Below is the breakdown of how Canada's Olympic training camp roster is believed to look:

FORWARDS:

Mario Lemieux
Steve Yzerman
Rick Nash
Joe Sakic
Kris Draper
Michael Peca
Keith Primeau
Jarome Iginla
Joe Thornton
Shane Doan
Kirk Maltby
Ryan Smyth
Brad Richards
Martin St Louis
Vincent Lecavalier
Patrick Marleau
Alex Tanguay
Simon Gagne
Dany Heatley
Brenden Morrow

DEFENCE

Adam Foote
Rob Blake
Chris Pronger
Scott Niedermayer
Wade Redden
Chris Phillips
Ed Jovanovski
Robyn Regehr
Eric Brewer
Jay Bouwmeester
Scott Hannan
Dan Boyle

GOALTENDERS

Martin Brodeur
Roberto Luongo
Jose Theodore
Marty Turco

The above group will gather in Vancouver on August 15th for some promotional work and a light skate, followed by a golf tournament on the 16th, before departing for Kelowna and a training camp that will run from August 17th to the 20th.

A deadline on the final roster is not known at this point, but speculation is the team will be officially named sometime in January.

KB in Kelowna
6-29-05, 3:28 PM
Oreintation camp in beautiful Kelowna BC , sweet!

slapshot™
7-24-05, 1:00 AM
Marking the third consecutive Olympic participation by NHL players, the men's ice hockey tournament at Turin will take place over 12 days (Feb. 15-26), featuring a 38-game schedule involving elite players from the top 12 hockey nations. The tournament matches will be split between two new Olympic arenas, the Palasport Olimpico and the Torino Esposizioni. An estimated 2,800 accredited media are expected at Turin with Olympic television coverage reaching more than 2.3 billion people in 160 countries worldwide. NBC and CBC again will broadcast the Olympics in the U.S. and Canada, respectively.

Participating hockey federations are required to send a preliminary long-list of players (maximum of 60) to the IIHF Tournament Directorate by October. Final roster submissions (maximum of 20 skaters, 3 goalies) must be submitted no later than 24 hours before the start of the tournament. In each of the previous two Olympics, more than 120 NHL players competed for their respective nations. The NHL has perhaps the most diverse player demographic in professional sports with representation from 22 different countries outside North America.

Here's the schedule (http://www.nhl.com/nhlhq/cba/olympics072205.html) for the Turin Olympics......