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rustybadcock
4-01-08, 10:48 AM
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The Vancouver Canucks have been playing well at home late in the regular season. They'll try to rely on that home-ice advantage to end a long losing streak against the Colorado Avalanche and draw closer to a playoff berth.

After stopping one slide its last time out, Vancouver will try to snap a five-game skid against Colorado on Tuesday night.

The Canucks (39-30-10) posted a pair of one-goal victories in their first two games versus the Avalanche in 2007-08. Colorado, though, has dominated in five games since, outscoring Vancouver 19-9.

"We played well against them the last few games," Colorado coach Joel Quenneville said of Vancouver, 7-1-3 in its last 11 overall at GM Place. "We know it's going to be a very important game."

The Canucks' struggles against the Avs this season are just one reason why Vancouver has yet to clinch its sixth playoff berth in seven seasons. Alain Vigneault's club starts play in eighth place in the Western Conference, one point ahead of Nashville and two in front of Edmonton.

Vancouver will face Edmonton on Thursday before finishing up the regular season against Calgary on Saturday.

"There are a lot of teams in this (playoff race)," Vigneault said. "Edmonton is there, Nashville is there, Calgary is there, Colorado is there. Everybody is right in the mix."

The Canucks hope an offensive outburst from their last game will carry over to this one after they scored five unanswered goals - two from 19-year veteran Trevor Linden - in a 6-2 victory over the Flames on Sunday. Vancouver scored just six goals during its four-game losing streak.

It was the first multigoal game in more than five years for the 37-year-old Linden, long regarded as one of the best players in Canucks history.

"I thought (Washington's Alex) Ovechkin was out there tonight for us," Vancouver's Alex Burrows told the Canucks' official Web site. "(Trevor) was just flying and playing well, playing with confidence. ... It was two great goals for us and that's why we call him Mr. Clutch."

A healthy scratch for 23 games this season, Linden has failed to notch a point in his last nine against Colorado.

With three games remaining, Vancouver also needs clutch performances from Roberto Luongo. He made 27 saves against the Flames for his first win in five starts, but Luongo has allowed 17 goals during the losing streak to the Avs, starting all five contests.

Playing its second-to-last game of the season, sixth-place Colorado (42-31-7) has 91 points, three more than Vancouver. The Avs, though, had their three-game winning streak halted Sunday with a 3-2 loss to Minnesota when Jose Theodore was beaten by Marian Gaborik 3:10 into overtime.

"We know we're in a good position (to get into the playoffs), but we know we still have to win," Colorado's Joe Sakic said. "We have to play well in Vancouver."

Colorado played without Peter Forsberg, who was scratched with a groin injury and is day-to-day. The oft-injured 2003 MVP made his season debut March 4 at home against Vancouver, and had three assists Wednesday in a 6-3 victory over the Canucks in Denver.

Colorado is 6-1-0 with Forsberg in the lineup. He's got nine assists, but has yet to score a goal.

The Avalanche wrap up the regular season Sunday at home against playoff-bound Minnesota.


Just win....:pimp:

gordphish
4-01-08, 12:19 PM
Colorado 4-3 in OT.

AtLossForWords
4-01-08, 12:46 PM
Yeah, agreed with Rusty, just get the two points.

gordphish
4-01-08, 1:19 PM
This is how I think it will play out.

Minnesota will beat Calgary in the SO to clinch the division and then lose to Colorado.

Colorado will beat the Canucks in OT and then beat Minnesota.

Calgary will lose to the Oilers in OT, lose to Minnesota in in the SO and then lose to Vancouver in OT.

Edmonton will beat Calgary in OT and the Canucks in the SO.

Vancouver will lose to Colorado in OT, lose to the Oilers in the SO and beat Calgary in OT.

Nashville will win both games against the Blues and then lose to Chicago in OT.

Dallas will clinch 5th.

So it will finish like this.

Detroit
San Jose
Minnesota 97 pts
Anaheim
Dallas
Colorado 95 pts
Calgary 93 pts
Nashville 92 pts / 41 wins
Vancouver 92 pts / 40 wins

AtLossForWords
4-02-08, 12:54 AM
Well they don't even have the point you thought they would get tonight.

Too bad about St. Louis tonight. Seems we aren't the only defensive team that has trouble holding a lead these days.

Vancouver has played very well against Edmonton and Calgary this season. If they can muster four points, I think they'll be playoff bound, but they need some help now.

rustybadcock
4-02-08, 12:58 AM
Well I'd love to puke more but I've tired of the taste...:cry:

Brutal effort tonight, I hate to say it. This game was under control and right after the Kesler goal they started thinking ahead, thinking it was in the bag. The second I noticed people like the Twins getting cute at the red line I knew the Avs were gonna pounce. I mean how many times can you turn a puck over in the neutral zone that should have been dumped in without getting burned? Not many against a team that knows how to get back into a game. Just another 38 minute effort to show for it...:rolleyes:

Just terrible, tonight there are no excuses. They deserved to be embarrassed and booed off the ice. Sorry to say it, believe me.

Do these guys not think that Nashville wasn't sitting down having a few beers and watching this meltdown!? Honestly, I doubt Nashville needs any more motivation to step up and destroy STL on Thursday.

Funny, every time this team has their own fate in their hands they choke. I've been a pretty positive guy and can accept wins and losses most nights but this one is hard to take for some reason. I usually can roll with it but this is a bit much....And you know to be honest, I think it has more to do with my shear disappointment in what the game is today. The officiating, it make me phucking sick. I honestly think I am canceling Center Ice for next year....OR, I have to stop investing so much personal time to one team and just be a casual "root" for anyone fan cause this is total bull-shet. Tonight, the Nashville STL game, a Nashville D man crosschecks a STL forward into Mason while the point shot goes past him into the net.....That's a good goal? NOPE, not anymore, or....not for this particular ref. That's hockey in my world, you toss a guy on your own goalie while the puck is shot in tough phucking shet. That's a goal. Not anymore.....AND, it would have put STL up 4-3 with minutes to go....garbage. And didn't we have a similar play go against us tonight? Unreal. It's like when I watch games, I feel like I don't even know the rules anymore and when and where they will be called. Every night it seems the game will be called based on an individual refs mood.

This is not entertainment, this is not what I grew up playing. This has become pretty unrecognizable.

Anyway, had to get that off my chest guys, sorry if I bored you.

Good night,

RB

gordphish
4-02-08, 4:50 AM
Well, Calgary just needs a point out of their last two games and they clinch. Nashville needs just three points and they are in no matter what Vancouver does. In fact, any combination of one Nashville win and a Vancouver loss, in regulation or otherwise, and the Canucks are done.

I say they get put down finally by the Oilers on Thurdsay. The Oilers may be out, but you know they'd love nothing more now than to take the Canucks out with them.

Crow or Vigneault, Burke or Nonis, Cloutier or Luongo, how many blown leads in crucial games have we had to endure with this core, and how many of those on home ice?

No backbone, no testicular fortitude, no guts of any kind to speak of.

Get these candy-asses off my hockey team, for the love gawd.

KB in Kelowna
4-02-08, 12:09 PM
Well, Calgary just needs a point out of their last two games and they clinch. Nashville needs just three points and they are in no matter what Vancouver does. In fact, any combination of one Nashville win and a Vancouver loss, in regulation or otherwise, and the Canucks are done.

I say they get put down finally by the Oilers on Thurdsay. The Oilers may be out, but you know they'd love nothing more now than to take the Canucks out with them.

Crow or Vigneault, Burke or Nonis, Cloutier or Luongo, how many blown leads in crucial games have we had to endure with this core, and how many of those on home ice?

No backbone, no testicular fortitude, no guts of any kind to speak of.

Get these candy-asses off my hockey team, for the love gawd.

Hey Gordo remember a couple of years ago we had an exchange where I said as a Canuck fan I understood Boston Red Sox fans from the 1920's thru 2000? Following a team that tempts you with the possibility of greatness and breaks your heart with either falling short or mediocrity for most seasons, and watching players you discrad find glory elsewhere, while the one's that remain become symbols of futility.

Even if they make the playoffs, does anyone realistically expect them to do anything?

gordphish
4-02-08, 2:19 PM
Hey Gordo remember a couple of years ago we had an exchange where I said as a Canuck fan I understood Boston Red Sox fans from the 1920's thru 2000? Following a team that tempts you with the possibility of greatness and breaks your heart with either falling short or mediocrity for most seasons, and watching players you discrad find glory elsewhere, while the one's that remain become symbols of futility.

Even if they make the playoffs, does anyone realistically expect them to do anything?

And that's what really frosts me. As soon as the Sox got ownership that was serious about going after a World Series, boom...they win it twice in four years.

All the Aquillinis care about is making money, and the Canucks are the perfect cash cow for them. As long as the team looks like it can make the playoffs, the building will be full of paying customers and the money will keep rolling in. With Vancouver fans, they never have to make a serious commitment to winning a championship because after all, once you get to the playoffs, you never know what is going to happen. Right?

Just look at Burke's tenure in Vancouver. He was never under any real pressure here once he got the team into the playoffs. They were in, the building was full and the franchise value rose enough that McCaw could finally unload it and make some money on the sale. But once he gets to Anaheim, where the only way for the Ducks to get noticed enough in Southern California to fill the buliding every night is to win a Championship...voila, he wins a Cup.

There is no commitment to excellence in this organization. Just be good enough to compete for a playoff spot and everything is OK. Why you do think Trevor Linden is such a freaking hero in this province?