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charlio lemieux
9-08-06, 11:19 AM
Not a bad game to start the year with. Culpepper looked decent for three quarters. Aside from the goalline missed snap, Batch looked like an adequate fill-in for Big Ben. Once again though the Pittsburg Defense was smoking. The two P's where the difference in the game.

Did anyone else notice the Pittsburg kicker? He hit the upright on an extra point and I don't know where he was kicking that one field goal but it sure wasn't towards the uprights. He shanked it about 20 yards left. Could be a problem down the road if he doesn't pull it together.

Anyway the season is started and I am eagerly awaiting the Manning v Manning match-up Sunday night.

Leafs_Fa_Life
9-08-06, 2:53 PM
Not looking forward to opening weekend as much as PSU-ND and OSU-Texas tomorrow, but it will hopefully be a solid Sunday of football. As always, I'll be cheering on the Green and Gold, but starting two rookie linemen against that Chicago D will mean trouble. Thankfully the Chicago offense will be equally as lost, and maybe the Pack can win this one 10-9 :)

Leafs_Fa_Life
9-10-06, 10:36 PM
What a disgraceful performance by the Green Bay secondary. The run defense was solid, the rookie linemen held their own, and Green's running like it's 2003 all over again. However, Grossman had his way with Woodson, Manuel, Collins, and Harris (maybe you should show up for OTAs next year guys! *looking at our two corners*).

J.R.
9-11-06, 6:11 PM
I kind of had to laugh at the way the Broncos lost yesterday. It was such deja-vu to last season. They were on the road against a rookie head coach making his NFL debut, their offence was awful (5 turnovers), defence kept them in the game (no TD allowed, even though STL started within the 30 three times), but they couldn't get the win. I wonder if they can go 13-2 the rest of the way again.

Amoroq
9-12-06, 4:45 PM
11 road wins on opening week, I do believe that is a record.

charlio lemieux
9-15-06, 1:50 AM
Anybody hear about the store owner who said any funiture bought before the weekend would be free if the Bears shutout the Packers?

:rollover2

He said luckily it was covered by insurance, but I think he said it was $300,000 worth of furniture.

:eyebug:

wildboy26
9-17-06, 4:15 PM
The Bears gave their divisional rivals, the Detroit Lions a good spanking 34-7. It is the second straight game the Bears have whooped a divisional rival.

J.R.
9-17-06, 5:35 PM
Few things from the early games:

- We've been duped by the two most overrated teams coming into the season. Both Miami and Carolina have started the season 0-2.

- The Eagles choked up a nice hairball today at home to NYG. They held a 17 point lead going to the fourth quarter and turnovers did them in. Nice comeback and subsequent OT win from Eli Manning.

- I need to begin starting David Carr (22-26, 219 yds, 3 TDs at Indy) on one of my fantasy teams in place of Jake Delhomme.

PDO
9-17-06, 5:53 PM
The Bears gave their divisional rivals, the Detroit Lions a good spanking 34-7. It is the second straight game the Bears have whooped a divisional rival.

Rex had 4 TD's.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
9-17-06, 7:34 PM
Rex had 4 TD's.

You mean 82nd string, doesn't belong in the NFL, Rex Grossman?

wildboy26
9-17-06, 7:52 PM
Yes Rex had a great game. Anybody can have one of those occasionaly.

wildboy26
9-17-06, 8:02 PM
The Jets were down 24-0 after the first half to the Patriots, but got it back to 24-17. The Jets had the final possesion but Pennginton threw an INT to end the threat.

KB in Kelowna
9-17-06, 8:41 PM
You mean 82nd string, doesn't belong in the NFL, Rex Grossman?
I thought that was Jake Plummer ;) :pimp:

Amoroq
9-18-06, 8:38 AM
Well this isn't the start I was hoping for. The Redskins are off to an 0-2 start, last nights game hurt to watch. They had well over 100 yards in penalties, just the ones that were accepted. Thay have no protection for the QB and when they had some, Brunell blew it. I think maybe its time for Todd Collins to give this O a shot.

Good thing is the Giants and the Eagles are just 1-1 so there is a slim amount of hope.

Speaking of the Eagles and Giants? What a finish!

THE HACK
9-18-06, 3:11 PM
Well this isn't the start I was hoping for. The Redskins are off to an 0-2 start, last nights game hurt to watch. They had well over 100 yards in penalties, just the ones that were accepted. Thay have no protection for the QB and when they had some, Brunell blew it. I think maybe its time for Todd Collins to give this O a shot.

Good thing is the Giants and the Eagles are just 1-1 so there is a slim amount of hope.

Speaking of the Eagles and Giants? What a finish!

That offensive line for the Redskins looked terrible and poor Brunell was scrambling the whole game.My Cowboys took lots of penalties too and had some big plays called back because of these stupid penalties.There were some good hits delivered by the Redskins secondary and T.O. broke his finger on one of the hits and will be out 2-4 weeks.I though Dallas's secondary had a good game and Drew Bledsoe played a good game too.It was nice to see Mike Vanderjagt make that 50 yd feild goal and put this whole feild goal contraversy to bed.

I can't believe that Eagles game and that they blew it!:eek: I watched that game right till early in the 3rd quarter when the Eagles got a touchdown to make it 24-3 and then I changed the channel thinking the game was over and started watching the Carolina vs Minnesota game which was a real good one.The Eagles absolutely dominated the Giants from what I saw and they had well over 300 yds in offence leading upto halftime.

The division is now up for grabs!;)

Cheers

J.R.
9-18-06, 5:40 PM
Well this isn't the start I was hoping for. The Redskins are off to an 0-2 start, last nights game hurt to watch. They had well over 100 yards in penalties, just the ones that were accepted. Thay have no protection for the QB and when they had some, Brunell blew it. I think maybe its time for Todd Collins to give this O a shot.How about going back to letting Joe Gibbs call the plays?!?

I watched that game right till early in the 3rd quarter when the Eagles got a touchdown to make it 24-324-7

:cool:

THE HACK
9-19-06, 2:01 PM
24-7

:cool:

Thanks JR,you are corect! On a bad note Jevon Kearse is out for the season,ouch!:(

How about those Jaguars shutting out the defending SuperBowl Champs the Steelers!:) Leftwich looked good and Mathis made some huge defensive plays.

Cheers

J.R.
10-01-06, 4:10 PM
See ya, San Diego not-so super Chargers.

All those talking faces calling them the best team in football can shut their mouths now! Look what happens when they finally play a quality opponent, they lose. Novel concept, eh? It's another fourth quarter choke job by a team that gets overrated and hyped up by beating on the Raiders and Titans.

PDO
10-01-06, 4:13 PM
See ya, San Diego not-so super Chargers.

All those talking faces calling them the best team in football can shut their mouths now! Look what happens when they finally play a quality opponent, they lose. Novel concept, eh? It's another fourth quarter choke job by a team that gets overrated and hyped up by beating on the Raiders and TITans.

Don't be rippin on the Chargers just because the Ravens are amazing :]

wildboy26
10-01-06, 4:40 PM
The Bears are off to a 3-0 start so I am happy about that. They are such an amazing team that even with the leagues worst starting QB, and their running game not at last years level yet they still went to 3-0. I hope they go to 4-0 vs a very tough opponent today.

wildboy26
10-01-06, 4:45 PM
Also the Vikes lost today so the Bears have a chance to pick up more ground on the Vikings.

J.R.
10-01-06, 4:47 PM
Don't be rippin on the Chargers just because the Ravens are amazing :]The Ravens are a really good team and that was part of my point. I mean the Chargers beat the Raiders and TITans and some call them the best team in the league. Then they play a good team and lose -- shouldn't be a big shock though.

BTW, can't wait for MNF next week. :wicked:

PDO
10-01-06, 5:30 PM
The Ravens are a really good team and that was part of my point. I mean the Chargers beat the Raiders and TITans and some call them the best team in the league. Then they play a good team and lose -- shouldn't be a big shock though.

BTW, can't wait for MNF next week. :wicked:

I'd still say that the Chargers are one of the best teams in football. Best RB in the league, a rookie QB who gets it and a pretty strong D.

Why would you look forward to losing? :confused:

Leafs_Fa_Life
10-01-06, 6:27 PM
The Ravens are a really good team and that was part of my point. I mean the Chargers beat the Raiders and TITans and some call them the best team in the league. Then they play a good team and lose -- shouldn't be a big shock though.

BTW, can't wait for MNF next week. :wicked:

The score was 16-13. Not like the Chargers got blown out or anything. They had a first year starter in at QB versus one of the best defenses in the league and still almost won. As the season goes on and Rivers continues to progress this San Diego team will be a force. They're a young team, and will be a force in the league for many years to come.

How bout them Patriots? Beating the Bengals 21-13 right now. It just amazes me how this team stays competitive, even though Brady's TEs/RBs are more viable passing options than their wide receivers right now.

wildboy26
10-01-06, 7:22 PM
The Patriots spank the Bengals 38-13. That is one I definitely did not see coming.

J.R.
10-01-06, 8:34 PM
The score was 16-13. Not like the Chargers got blown out or anything. They had a first year starter in at QB versus one of the best defenses in the league and still almost won. As the season goes on and Rivers continues to progress this San Diego team will be a force. They're a young team, and will be a force in the league for many years to come.Yep, as long as they have a schedule filled with winless teams to beat up on...Charge on!

Leafs_Fa_Life
10-01-06, 10:49 PM
Rex Grossman throws as good a ball as any QB in the game. I'm not even saying that to get wildboy pissed off (he can't see my posts anyways). He's been healthy this year, and thus far is showing that he's a pretty good QB. He has a strong arm and has been able to find his receivers downfield, and that's really transformed the Bears offense into something that opposing teams should respect. With the defense the way it is, if Rex can keep this play up the Bears should be able to win the NFC.

wildboy26
10-01-06, 10:49 PM
The Bears are laying the beatdown on the SeaHawks up 34-6. Rex has 2 TD passes, Jones has 2 TD runs, Gould has 2 FG kicks. The whole team is playing incredable, their defence has been exceptional so far and they are making Hasselback look like a bit of a fool. Stifling the running game is easier with Alexander out.

THE HACK
10-02-06, 7:31 PM
Albert Haynesworth of the Tennessee Titans has just recieved a 5 game suspension for stomping on Cowboys Andre Gurodes head and face giving him about 35 stitches.Considering the longest suspension like this has been for only 2 games a 5 gamer is alot by NFL standards.I commend commisioner Roger Goodall for stepping up like this and handing out the suspension quickly.

Santana Moss had a hell of a game getting 3tds with the game winner in OT over Jacksonville.These were highlight reel tds and why he's one of the best recievers in the game.

Cheers

Amoroq
10-05-06, 10:35 AM
Everyone knows the song, OLE OLE OLE OLE OLEEEEE....OLEEEE OEEEEELEE


Well Philadelphia Eagles fans have a new song that fans have been singing at early tailgate parties this week in Philly.

OD OD OD OD ODDDDDDDDDDDDDD ODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD ODDDDDDDDDDD

Gotta love them eagle fans :laughing:

J.R.
10-09-06, 11:37 PM
:boogie:

Now the question becomes: which team in the AFC has the best defence?

J.R.
10-15-06, 11:07 PM
:boogie:

Now the question becomes: which team in the AFC has the best defence?
I think we have our answer, especially considering the way Baltimore was picked apart today.

Three straight primetime games, three straight wins, including two in a row in just six days by a 13-3 score.

The Broncos have given up a single touchdown in their first five games (by NE trailing 17-0 in the fourth quarter vs. soft defence). Last team to do that? The Lions in 1934, Yes, Nineteen Thirty-four.

Amoroq
10-16-06, 10:51 AM
Tough part of the schedule comming up soon.

Week 8

Indianapolis at Denver

Week 9

Denver at Pittsburgh

Week 11

San Diego at Denver

Week 13

Seattle at Denver

Week 14

Denver at San Diego

J.R.
10-16-06, 7:10 PM
W8 & 13: At Denver = Win.
W9: Pittsburgh isn't good this year.
W11 & 14: San Diego... HAHAHAHAHA!!!

wildboy26
10-16-06, 9:13 PM
Pittsburg had a good game in their last game but I think it was a fluke. I do not think they are playoff bound this year, and I fully expect Denver to beat them when they play. I would expect Denver to atleast split with San Diego. I also think they will beat Seattle at home probably, Seattle are not exactly their top so far this year either despite their record still being good.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
10-17-06, 12:27 AM
Wow. I feel bad for anyone that went to bed early thinking the Cards had the game locked up. Bears overcome 6 turnovers and scored 24 non-offensive points to win the game by a point. Pure crazyness.

J.R.
10-22-06, 4:23 PM
The not-so super Chargers lose. Woot, woot! :D


I wish I had the balls to make the Tampa Bay over Philadelphia pick. :burning: I so saw that one coming.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
10-22-06, 8:11 PM
Yeah, I saw that near record breaking kick coming too. I can't believe I didn't have more faith in a kicker who had a career long of 50 yards to beat the Eagles on a 62 yarder.

J.R.
10-22-06, 9:44 PM
Whoa, Arizona Cardinals: What a week!

They go from playing better than the best team in the NFL on Monday night to playing worse the worst team in the NFL on Sunday afternoon.

:conspire:

Oh yeah and Charlie Batch > Ben Roethlisberger.

THE HACK
10-24-06, 3:16 PM
Man did my Cowboys play a stinker on Monday Night basically giving the game away to the Giants.To make matters worse we have a QB contraversy,Romo or Bledsoe,well it doesn't matter as this ship is going to sink next week vs the Carolina Panthers.

The Giants Michael Strahan was an absolute monster last night and Arrington was too until he ruptured an achilles tendon and is now out for the season.Tiki Barber was his usual self rushing for over 100 yds.

Cheers

Amoroq
10-24-06, 3:50 PM
Oh yeah and Charlie Batch > Ben Roethlisberger.

The most dangerous place on earth: Dick Cheney on a hunting trip with Ben Roethlisberger and Carlo Colaiacovo. - Bill Lankhof, Tor Sun

J.R.
10-30-06, 12:04 AM
I blame Darrent Williams. Credit to the Colts for picking on him all game. He singlehandedly cost Denver the win. They replace him with someone who could cover Reggie Wayne and the Broncos are the undisputed best team in the AFC.

THE HACK
10-30-06, 1:52 PM
Game 1 for Tony Romo as the Cowboys starter and he comes through with a big win in Carolina on Sunday Night!:) The Panthers just self destructed in the 4th quarter turning the ball over 3 times and giving up 25 points(new Cowboys record).Pivotal turning point had to have been when Keyshawn Johnson dropped what looked like would have been an easy touchdown and would have put the game out of reach for the Panthers who were leading 14-0.

There were some thrilling games yesterday like the Indy vs Denver and Atlanta vs Cinncy that went right down to the wire.LJ(Cheifs) and Lt(SD) had big games and Peyton Manning just continues to be great!

Cheers

KB in Kelowna
11-01-06, 1:33 PM
I blame Darrent Williams. Credit to the Colts for picking on him all game. He singlehandedly cost Denver the win. They replace him with someone who could cover Reggie Wayne and the Broncos are the undisputed best team in the AFC.
For a differing opinion see: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/don_banks/10/30/week8/index.html

J.R.
11-01-06, 6:51 PM
For a differing opinion see: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/don_banks/10/30/week8/index.htmlYou didn't bold the whole sentence. I don't believe the Broncos are NOW this best team in the AFC, but if they have got to Manning a couple times on Sunday and covered Reggie Wayne they would have won and been considered the AFC's best for beating New England and Indianapolis.

By the way, it matters come playoff time -- and who had more postseason wins last year, Plummer or Manning? Yeah.

KB in Kelowna
11-01-06, 8:14 PM
You didn't bold the whole sentence. I don't believe the Broncos are NOW this best team in the AFC, but if they have got to Manning a couple times on Sunday and covered Reggie Wayne they would have won and been considered the AFC's best for beating New England and Indianapolis.

By the way, it matters come playoff time -- and who had more postseason wins last year, Plummer or Manning? Yeah.
Sorry I was blinded by the reflection off Plummer's Superbowl ring......Wait they lost the AFC Championship being completely dominated by the Steelers. :pimp: However we are talking the 2006 NFL season. So why didn't the switch and put Champ Bailey on Reggie Wayne? Marvin Harrison. Fact of the matter is that despite Denver's reputation for a strong running game and the Colts having a a poor run defence they did not score enough points, nor did they get to Manning. Sorry but I think that Denvers is beatable with the right game plan, and that there are other teams in the AFC, that your sandbox trash talk lables notwithstanding, are capable of executing the game plans to beat them.

THE HACK
11-06-06, 1:41 PM
What a wild finish in the Cowboys vs Redskins game!Novak misses a field goal with 33 seconds remaining to win the game for the Redskins and gives the Cowboys just enough time to head down the field and get into field goal position.Tony Romo leads the Cowboys down to the Redskins 20 yd line with 6 seconds remaining and the Cowboys attempt a field goal but Troy Vincent jumps in to block the field goal and Sean Taylor recovers and brings the ball to midfield with no time remaining but Dallas takes a 15 yd face mask penalty and the game can't end on a penalty so the Redskins get the ball at the Cowboys 35 yd line and Novak gets one last chance to kick the winner and gets redemption by making the 49 yarder for the victory.

This game was a heartbreaker for my Cowboys who made so many mistakes and took over 150 yds in penalties.The good was Tony Romo had another exceptional game for the Cowboys and looks like the real deal.

In other games Peyton Manning and the Colts remain undefeated beating Tom Brady and the Patriots.I'm really hoping the Colts remain undeafeated heading into the Dallas Cowboys game on Nov 19th as I'll be making the trek to Texas Stadium for that game and fullfilling a lifelong dream of mine!:)

Miami goes into Chicago and upsets the Bears,what a shocker!

And how about Marcus Colston for the New Orlean Saints putting up another over 100yds in receiving.A 7th round pick and this guys been one of the best recievers in the league but gets no recognition,keep up the good work!:thumb:

Cheers

wildboy26
11-06-06, 4:25 PM
I honestly dont think Denver can ever win a Super Bowl with Plummer at the helm. I think they realized that too after last year which is why they drafted Cutler. Plummer is a pretty good QB, and there are worse ones that have won a SB on the right teams, but too error prone and tends to perform below his regular season standard in the playoffs as well. Last year his performance in the playoffs did not impress me. In the New England game he was about equal with Brady in that particular game I thought, but that was with Brady having a shocking performance, his worst ever in a playoff game. Plummer was pretty mediocre in that game too I thought, definitely nothing he did in that game was that impressive. Both the teams were similarly mediocre in all aspects in that game in fact, Denver won since New England made a couple more glaring mistakes at bad times was all. Then in the AFC final he was badly outperformed by Roethlisburger, it was not even close. That is not the only reason Denver lost, they were outplayed in most aspects of the game, but the QB was a big difference in that game.

Denver wont win a Super Bowl with Plummer, no way, so they are probably anxious to get Cutler up there next year. Just my opinion.

Amoroq
11-06-06, 5:13 PM
What a wild finish in the Cowboys vs Redskins game!Novak misses a field goal with 33 seconds remaining to win the game for the Redskins and gives the Cowboys just enough time to head down the field and get into field goal position.Tony Romo leads the Cowboys down to the Redskins 20 yd line with 6 seconds remaining and the Cowboys attempt a field goal but Troy Vincent jumps in to block the field goal and Sean Taylor recovers and brings the ball to midfield with no time remaining but Dallas takes a 15 yd face mask penalty and the game can't end on a penalty so the Redskins get the ball at the Cowboys 35 yd line and Novak gets one last chance to kick the winner and gets redemption by making the 49 yarder for the victory.

This game was a heartbreaker for my Cowboys who made so many mistakes and took over 150 yds in penalties.The good was Tony Romo had another exceptional game for the Cowboys and looks like the real deal.


Cheers

Fight for ole DC! Dallas and the Skins always seem to have at least one barn burner per year!

THE HACK
11-06-06, 5:38 PM
Fight for ole DC! Dallas and the Skins always seem to have at least one barn burner per year!

They sure do and its a great rivalry!Just like last season this could be the game that leaves Dallas out of the playoffs again!:cry:

Cheers

THE HACK
11-12-06, 8:11 PM
Tony Romo has another impressive game going 20-29 with over 300yds thrown and 2 tds in a 27-10 win over the lowly Cardinals.

I got my wish as Indy barely beat Buffalo 17-16 to stay undefeated at 9-0going into next weeks game at Dallas.I can't wait for next week,Texas Stadium here I come!:boogie:

Cheers

J.R.
11-19-06, 10:28 PM
The Eagles are finished.

The Colts are defeated in the Big D (HACK must have enjoyed that).

The Patriots take out Favre and hand the Packers their second home shutout this season. Well done!

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
11-19-06, 11:34 PM
How about that LameDainian and his Not-So Super Chargers? Tomlinson sets a couple TD records, while powering his team to a great win over the Broncos. 22 TDS in 10 games for LT, furthermore proving that he is the best RB in football.

KB in Kelowna
11-19-06, 11:40 PM
How about that LameDainian and his Not-So Super Chargers? Tomlinson sets a couple TD records, while powering his team to a great win over the Broncos. 22 TDS in 10 games for LT, furthermore proving that he is the best RB in football.
A combined 179 all purpose yards against the "dominating defence " of the AFC. Nice time to have a big game against Denver in Denver. Remind me again why the Bronco fan around here laughed when it was even suggested that San Diego could win?:pimp:

J.R.
11-20-06, 4:40 PM
he is the best RB in football.I now agree. He finally had a good game against the Broncos. Rematch though in three weeks. :thumb:

Remind me again why the Bronco fan around here laughed when it was even suggested that San Diego could win?San Diego shouldn't have won that game. Denver had a 17-point second half lead, relaxed and let the Chargers have it. It was more of a case of the Broncos losing than SDC winning.

KB in Kelowna
11-20-06, 8:01 PM
I now agree. He finally had a good game against the Broncos. Rematch though in three weeks. :thumb:

San Diego shouldn't have won that game. Denver had a 17-point second half lead, relaxed and let the Chargers have it. It was more of a case of the Broncos losing than SDC winning.
Sure whatever:coffee:

J.R.
11-20-06, 8:39 PM
Sure whatever:coffee:
Nice.

What's your favourite NFL team, by the way? Or do you not have one, like you refuse to offer predictions? Just pick at others when they're wrong.

KB in Kelowna
11-21-06, 11:32 AM
Nice.

What's your favourite NFL team, by the way? Or do you not have one, like you refuse to offer predictions? Just pick at others when they're wrong.
Oh did I strike a nerve? For the record I don't have a team. I enjoy the game and like certain players, but I don't have any deep emotional commitment to any NFL team. As for predictions, I don't recall any rule that says I need to guess which team will win or by what score as being a requirement of membership here or at any other forum I belong to. The only reason I have "picked at you" is that you have been trash talking against Tomlinson and the Chargers for way too long. You offer no objective analysis of why a team or player is bad in your opinion, and you are dismissive of any one that offers a contrary opinion. Nor do you offer any reasoned analysis of why your team falls short. If I gave you a hard time it is only because you have on countless occasions engaged in classless taunting of those who differ with you.

THE HACK
11-21-06, 6:10 PM
The Colts are defeated in the Big D (HACK must have enjoyed that).

I sure did!:D The game was moved to the afternoon so it started at 3:15 and by then we were all pretty much liquored up but it made for a wonderful day as Dallas pulled off the big win.Nothing beats being in a place where pretty much everyone is rooting for the same team,it felt like home.Seeing Emmitt Smith at the game was awesome and also the banners in the rafters.In 2009 the Cowboys will be playing out of a new stadium so I'm thanfull I got to see them here at Texas Stadium,a game and day I'll never forget.

Dallas played terrible in the 1st half but lucky for them Indy did too as both defences came up with big plays.The 2nd half was all about Tony Romo and the way he moved the ball and the running game finally showing up.Romo once again shows signs of improvement going 19-23 and outplaying Peyton Manning.Now comes the short week and the Cowboys play on Thursday vs the TB Bucs in what will be a triple header that day with Miami vs Detroit and Denver vs Kansas City on Thanksgiving Day.

Cheers

J.R.
11-21-06, 8:29 PM
Oh did I strike a nerve? For the record I don't have a team. I enjoy the game and like certain players, but I don't have any deep emotional commitment to any NFL team. As for predictions, I don't recall any rule that says I need to guess which team will win or by what score as being a requirement of membership here or at any other forum I belong to.Then don't act as if you picked San Diego to win and predicted that Tomlin-whatever-his-name-is would have a big game.

The only reason I have "picked at you" is that you have been trash talking against Tomlinson and the Chargers for way too long. You offer no objective analysis of why a team or player is bad in your opinion, and you are dismissive of any one that offers a contrary opinion. Nor do you offer any reasoned analysis of why your team falls short. If I gave you a hard time it is only because you have on countless occasions engaged in classless taunting of those who differ with you.Pot. Kettle. Black. :thumb:

THE HACK
11-23-06, 7:46 PM
This is a recording,Tony Romo does it again this time going 22-29 with 5 tds as the Cowboys obliterate the TB Bucs 38-10 in the 2nd game of this Thanksgiving Day games.I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop but Romo just keeps plugging along which is awesome!:boogie: The team is now 7-4 and have a realistic chance of making the playoffs or even winning their division.

Joey Harrington goes back to Detroit and beats up his former team 28-10!:thumb:

Now comes Denver vs Kansas City,lets hope this is a good close one!

Cheers

J.R.
11-23-06, 11:08 PM
In Jay We Trust.

http://www.fansedge.com/Images/Product/41-23/41-23872-F.jpg

J.R.
11-26-06, 8:01 PM
The Giants Coughlin-ed up a 21-0 lead with 10 minutes to play today. One of the greatest chokes in NFL history as it's only the third time that a team spit the bit up by 21 with 10 to play. And what makes it that much more embarrassing is it was against a sappy 4-7 Titans team.

Amoroq
11-27-06, 12:22 AM
I think wildboy and JR should get a room ;)

THE HACK
11-27-06, 12:51 PM
The Giants Coughlin-ed up a 21-0 lead with 10 minutes to play today. One of the greatest chokes in NFL history as it's only the third time that a team spit the bit up by 21 with 10 to play. And what makes it that much more embarrassing is it was against a sappy 4-7 TITans team.

While I'm glad the Giants lost I feel for the team as I think they got ripped off! I'm refferring to the 4th and 10 play on the game tying drive in which Giants linebacker Mathias Kiwanuka had Vince Young wrapped up with both arms and carried him back 5 yds then let him go.The whistle should have gone,play over and the Giants get the ball.Kiwanuka could have slammed Vince Young to the ground but we all know the stupid refs would have probably given Kiwanuka a 15 yd personal foul penalty:rolleyes: .Where were the refs on that play protecting the quarterback:rolleyes: .

Another conterversial play happened in the Oakland vs San Diego game in which the Chargers went for it on a 4th and 2 and made the completetion to rookie reciever Jackson who caught the ball,fell on the ground and got up but then in taunting fashion swirled the ball.Jackson wasn't touched by any Oakland player so the ball becomes a live ball and Oakland picked it up.But because Jackson swirled the ball forward it was then called a forward pass so play over.This is such a stupid rule as Jackson did not throw or lateral the ball forward but because of this stupid rule Jacksons butt was saved.The expression by Antonio Gates to Jackson on the play is absolutely priceless:laughing: !BTW San Diego scored on this drive too:burning: .

Cheers

Iced Tea
12-04-06, 1:58 AM
Seahawks all the way this season. :D

No one else on this forum believed last season and the Seahawks went to the Super Bowl. So to heck with all you naysayers.

The only thing I ask is no John Madden, the guy should have retired years ago. :mad:

THE HACK
12-04-06, 1:05 PM
Seahawks all the way this season. :D

No one else on this forum believed last season and the Seahawks went to the Super Bowl. So to heck with all you naysayers.

I'm impressed with the Seahawks this season!Even with their injuries they kept winning and now they go into Denver and beat the Broncos.They've pretty much won their division already!If this team can stay healthy then there's no reason why they can't make it to the Superbowl again.

My Cowboys got a huge win against division rivals the NY Giants and now have a 2 game lead in the division.The Cowboys control their own destiny now.Once again Tony Romo had a monster of a 4th quarter setting up the winning drive(and the one before that:thumb: ) and leaving the game in the hands of our new kicker Martin Gramatica who kicked the game winning 46 yd field goal with 1 second remaining!:boogie: This game could have gone either way as it was a close one.I thought Eli Manning had a good game and there's no way this loss can be pinned on him this time.

Cheers

J.R.
12-04-06, 7:27 PM
I'm impressed with the Seahawks this season!Even with their injuries they kept winning and now they go into Denver and beat the Broncos.They've pretty much won their division already!If this team can stay healthy then there's no reason why they can't make it to the Superbowl again.
I said this last year: The Seahawks play in the easiest division in football, in the easiest conference in football. Relax. They're supposed to have that record. So they beat Denver? Whoop-dee-doo, anyone could beat the Broncos right now. They're falling so fast and go from challenging for the top seed in the AFC to missing the playoffs in five weeks. I can't wait until they play the Cardinals -- there's hope!

:cry:

In the meantime, Go Saints. :D

J.R.
12-05-06, 1:17 AM
The Panthers are bad.

Carolina's last five losses have come from fourth quarter choke jobs.

W2 - Up 13-6 going to the 4th, they give up a late TD to Minnesota and lose in OT.
W7 - Up 14-10 going to the 4th, they give up a fourth down TD to lose at Cincinnati.
W8 - Up 14-10 going to the 4th, they give up 25 fourth quarter point to lose to Dallas 35-14.
W12 - Up 13-10 in the 4th, a late Redskins TD snaps their modest 2 game winning streak.
W13 - Up 21-14 and 24-17 in the 4th, they give get outscored 13-3 by a Jeff Garcia-led to lose late again.

THE HACK
12-05-06, 1:05 PM
I said this last year: The Seahawks play in the easiest division in football, in the easiest conference in football. Relax. They're supposed to have that record. So they beat Denver? Whoop-dee-doo, anyone could beat the Broncos right now. They're falling so fast and go from challenging for the top seed in the AFC to missing the playoffs in five weeks. I can't wait until they play the Cardinals -- there's hope!

:cry:

In the meantime, Go Saints. :D

Seahawks do play in the easiest conference but when you are missing your star quarterback and running back and still continue to win I have to give them credit.Believe me J.R. I hear the Seahawks hype all the time hear and it pisses me off but this team which is now healthy looks poised to go a big run.I hope they don't but they just look like a team that will!

The Monday nighter turned out to be a good game after the horrible first half in which there were something like 11 punts.Jeff Garcia came through big time after being jeered by the classless Philly crowd,good for you Jeff Garcia!:thumb: What more can you say about Brian Dawkins and Lito Shepard for the Eagles,these two are just simply awesome.Jake Delhomme on the other hand once again finds a way to blow another game and now we have the Panthers,Eagles,Giants and Atlanta sitting at 6-6 and fighting for the 2 wild card spots.These last 4 weeks are going to be interesting.

J.R.,In the meantime,Go Cowboys!:) Should be a hell of a Sunday Nighter next week between the Cowboys and Saints and a big welcome back for Sean Payton!

Cheers

KB in Kelowna
12-11-06, 11:41 AM
See ya, San Diego not-so super Chargers.

All those talking faces calling them the best team in football can shut their mouths now! Look what happens when they finally play a quality opponent, they lose. Novel concept, eh? It's another fourth quarter choke job by a team that gets overrated and hyped up by beating on the Raiders and Titans.
Yea overated, and how teams give them games and let that overated Running Back score and eat up yards? What is wrong with the NFL.:wicked:

THE HACK
12-11-06, 1:14 PM
My Cowboys got absolutely slaughtered by the New Orlean Saints on the Sunday Nighter.Drew Brees threw for 5 td passes and could have had more but the Saints let up in the 4th quarter.The #1 offense in the league looks unstoppable all thanks to head coach Sean Payton who after this game should get his dues,excellent job Sean!:) The Cowboys hold a slim 1 game lead in their division over the Giants and Eagles who just happen to play next week.The Cowboys better get their butts in gear quickly.

The Dolphins shutout the Patriots 21-0!:eek:

The Jaguars trounce the Colts(can't remember the score but it was a shellacking).

Vince Young rushes for a 50 plus yd touchdown in overtime to defeat the Texans.Young just keeps getting better and he's fun to watch.

LT sets the single season record for touchdowns getting his 29th td of the season in a romp over their rivals the Broncos.

Can it be a Saints vs Chargers Superbowl?

Cheers

J.R.
12-11-06, 5:02 PM
Yea overated, and how teams give them games and let that overated Running Back score and eat up yards? What is wrong with the NFL.:wicked:
That was the one of the classy-less things I have ever seen in sports. The Roidgers should be ashamed for running up the score late in the game. Comment edited for taste . I'm already counting the days until the Roidgers choke in their first playoff game. :D

J.R.
12-11-06, 5:05 PM
My Cowboys got absolutely slaughtered by the New Orlean Saints on the Sunday Nighter.Drew Brees threw for 5 td passes and could have had more but the Saints let up in the 4th quarter.The #1 offense in the league looks unstoppable all thanks to head coach Sean Payton who after this game should get his dues,excellent job Sean!:) The Cowboys hold a slim 1 game lead in their division over the Giants and Eagles who just happen to play next week.The Cowboys better get their butts in gear quickly.
How about them Saints? Who dat? Who dat? Who dat? :D

And the Tijuana Roidgers will not be in the Super Bowl. I guarentee it. :cool:

THE HACK
12-11-06, 5:17 PM
How about them Saints? Who dat? Who dat? Who dat? :D

And the Tijuana Roidgers will not be in the Super Bowl. I guarentee it. :cool:

Them Saints look good!I knew Sean Payton would turn that team around and add some offencive magic but last night he was doing things even he didn't do with the Cowboys.And like I said if he didn't let up the Saints could have easily gotten over 50 points last night.I wish this team well,just not against the Cowboys.

I hope you're right about the Roidgers!:thumb:

Cheers

J.R.
12-11-06, 6:01 PM
Them Saints look good!I knew Sean Payton would turn that team around and add some offencive magic but last night he was doing things even he didn't do with the Cowboys.And like I said if he didn't let up the Saints could have easily gotten over 50 points last night.I wish this team well,just not against the Cowboys.
You're right about that offence. They're so dynamic with a great combination of passing and rushing plays that are equally effective. Reggie Bush plays the role of speedback and decoy so well, Deuce McCallister is an excellent RB, Drew Brees finds a variety of receivers. They have so much talent, they're going to be tough to stop, even by the Chicago Bears.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
12-11-06, 11:13 PM
That was the one of the classy-less things I have ever seen in sports. The Roidgers should be ashamed for running up the score late in the game. And someone get a towel for LameDainian, after Jim Nantz and Phil Simms blew their loads all over his face yesterday. I'm already counting the days until the Roidgers choke in their first playoff game. :D

Classy-less how? On the turnover that led to the record breaking TD, the Chargers were on the 7 yard line with 3:15 left. They won't take 3 knees, so they ran the ball. When you are a RB you don't go down on purpose, you run until someone takes you down. What part of running the offense late in the game was running up the score? Name me one coach in the NFL that wouldn't of run the ball. Even the heralded, picture of perfection that is Mike Shanahan would've ran the ball. It's not running up the score, it's playing the game. Now if they were at maybe the 20 and tried to get Tomlinson in the endzone, maybe I'd agree, but that isn't even close to the case.

J.R.
12-11-06, 11:22 PM
Name me one coach in the NFL that wouldn't of run the ball.Sean Payton. He did it last night.

Nice try though, it stank of classlessness from the Roidgers and you know it.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
12-11-06, 11:43 PM
Sean Payton. He did it last night.

Nice try though, it stank of classlessness from the Roidgers and you know it.

You mean when he onside kicked the ball and then called a deep pass for a TD when the score was 35-17. Uhhhhh, yeah.

J.R.
12-11-06, 11:49 PM
You mean when he onside kicked the ball and then called a deep pass for a TD when the score was 35-17. Uhhhhh, yeah.
You asked me to name a coach who wouldn't run the ball with a 20+ point lead, with 4:00 minutes to play and be within the 15 yard line. I did. Like I said, "nice try though."

I don't understand how you can defend this. What did the greatest chokejob coach of all-time think LameDainian wouldn't get another chance to break the record this season? I mean it was insane to do that and it won't be long until they get theirs.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
12-11-06, 11:56 PM
Um, Sean Payton ran Reggie Bush from the 20 yard line with 3:07 left in the 4th. It just so happens that Bush only gained 16 yards instead of the full 20.

J.R.
12-12-06, 12:06 AM
Um, Sean Payton ran Reggie Bush from the 20 yard line with 3:07 left in the 4th. It just so happens that Bush only gained 16 yards instead of the full 20.
Bush also ran out of bounds, not into the endzone. A very classy move by the rookie.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
12-12-06, 12:11 AM
Running out of bounds may be considered classy to you, but I wouldn't like it on my team. I'd much rather have someone run until someone takes you down, not until you take yourself out of the play. Regardless of what Bush did, Payton still chose the play, or are you going to go after LT's class? That would be pretty ridiculous if that is the route your going to take.

J.R.
12-12-06, 9:03 AM
Running out of bounds may be considered classy to you, but I wouldn't like it on my team. I'd much rather have someone run until someone takes you down, not until you take yourself out of the play. Regardless of what Bush did, Payton still chose the play, or are you going to go after LT's class? That would be pretty ridiculous if that is the route your going to take.
There's a difference between calling a run play from the 20 yard line and the 7 yard line. One is classy, the other is classless. I'll let you connect the dots.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
12-12-06, 3:11 PM
There's a difference between calling a run play from the 20 yard line and the 7 yard line. One is classy, the other is classless. I'll let you connect the dots.

Why? Because you say so? You said there were coaches that wouldn't run the ball with under 4 minutes left inside the red zone. I proved you wrong and yet you still take this route of "Anything the Chargers do is wrong, and I'm right".

Leafs_Fa_Life
12-12-06, 4:47 PM
Nice try though, it stank of classlessness from the Roidgers and you know it.

Classlessness would be throwing the ball when you're up by a lot. For the most part teams won't start taking knees until there's under two minutes to go, and will just run the ball to kill the clock before that. Now, in that situation Turner should've probably been in the game instead of LT, but that's on the coach. You can't fault LT for taking the ball and running the play called.

Also, Roidgers? Just when we think you can't get any more corny:no: Funny, coming from a guy that supported Barry Bonds.

THE HACK
12-15-06, 12:59 PM
A huge upset last night as the San Fransisco 49ers go into Seattle and win a big game 24-13.With the weather being atrociuos the 49ers hung around till the 4th quarter being outplayed for the first 3 quarters(getting only 3,1st downs)only to score 3 tds and Alex Smith pass for 196 yds in the 4th.The 49ers defence stopped a big 4th and 1 play and then just literally took over the game.Seattle can now kiss the 1st round bye away and now have a chance of not only lossing their division but missing the playoffs,depending on what the other teams do in ther division.

Cheers

Leafs_Fa_Life
12-15-06, 2:00 PM
The 49ers will be a good team in a year or two. Alex Smith just needs to develop a bit more as a passer, and they might be in a position to draft a wideout like Jarrett or Ginn in the spring which should help him out too. It was also nice to see him march into the end zone. Haven't seen him run that far since his college days at Utah.

THE HACK
12-15-06, 5:45 PM
It was also nice to see him march into the end zone. Haven't seen him run that far since his college days at Utah.

I wouldn't exactly call it running!:laughing: That was something and even I was fooled on that touchdown.Aex Smith could have crawled in from the 10 yd line and no Seattle player would have caught him,it was an awesome play call by Norv Turner!:D

Cheers

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
12-15-06, 7:26 PM
Definitely love seeing the Seahawks lose, especially to a team like the Niners. Frank Gore is a monster though. I still wish the Eagles would've drafted him.

THE HACK
12-17-06, 12:59 PM
Definitely love seeing the Seahawks lose, especially to a team like the Niners. Frank Gore is a monster though. I still wish the Eagles would've drafted him.

Gore is a monster and while he's been an awesome fantasy pool pick his injuries before will always be a cause for concern.Gore is 1 knee tear away from retiring so in the short term he's a good running back to have but in the long term it pains me to say its only a matter of time before he's done,I hope I'm dead wrong though as I love this kid!

Cheers

THE HACK
12-17-06, 1:09 PM
My Cowboys pulled out a big win last night against the Atlanta Falcons and look good to clinch their division.While I'm happy they won they just don't look like a playoff team to me and the secondary just looks plain awful.Good thing the offense looks fine.

Terrell Owens,wtf are you doing?:mad: TO had a good game with 2 tds but with loud mouthpiece DeAngelo Hall in his face TO spit in Halls face which is downright dumb.I'll be the first to admit Hall needs a slappin but he doesn't deserve to get spit in his face.TO will get a big fine but once again the guy loses more cred and respect with his stupidity.:shrug:

Cheers

KB in Kelowna
12-17-06, 9:45 PM
With alot of talk about classless in the NFL (T.O.) I would like to talk about one of the class guys. Lamar Hunt the owner of the KC Chiefs, a founder of the old AFL and a leader in the merger of the AFL-NFL and the expansion of the league in to a dominant sport, as well as being involved in Pro Tennis and Soccer in the US, passed away this week. With passing of Wellington Mara last year and now Lamar Hunt, sport has lost 2 owners who alwasy put the good of the sport as a hole, ahead of their own personal profit.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
12-18-06, 10:45 PM
Yeah, Lamar Hunt was great. One of the guys who never let the money he made get the best of him. Almost the polar opposite of a guy like Jerry Jones. Would love to have more Lamar Hunt's owning and running franchises. Also, I believe I saw on ESPN that he was in 8 sports hall of fames. That's pretty amazing.

KB in Kelowna
12-27-06, 12:02 PM
So did anyone catch T.O. at the post game comments after the loss to the Eagles? He said that the Cowboys game plan was got him involved "too late" in the game so he was not able to effective:eek: WTF!? Any predictions on where this "me-first"twit ends up next year?

That botched snap on the PAT probably costs the Bengals. I can't believe that as poorly as the Broncos played this year, they get a Wild Card:eyebug:

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
12-27-06, 3:51 PM
I don't thnk the Broncos have anything locked up yet, KB. I think there is a slim chance that they could lose their wildcard spot. Slim, but with the up and down way they have been playing, and how they gave the game away to the Bengals, I wouldn't doubt that they could lose it.

As for TO, he'll be playing for the Raiders next year. It's where all the divas go when they are trying to continue their falling careers. While TO is still one of the best WRs in the game, there aren't many GMs and coaches that are going to want someone that spits in an opposing players face, admits to it, and then appeals it on the grounds of there being no video evidence, among many other things he's done.

And let's talk about the best player in football, Ladainian Tomlinson. He has already destroyed the TD records. Now he has a legit shot at breaking the record for yards from scrimmage. If he gains 186 combined yards in his next game, he would tie the mark set by Marshall Faulk in 1999 of 2429 total yards. And who do the Chargers play this week? The Arizona Cardinals. Anyone think we will see LT break this record this week and cap off the best ever year for a running back.

Leafs_Fa_Life
12-27-06, 4:55 PM
There's a chance, but Turner might get some more carries with the playoffs locked up.

PDO
12-27-06, 6:11 PM
Right now there's only one team in football that doesn't have a glaring weakness..

And that'd be my Ravens.

Loving it.

As good as the Chargers record is - they're not winning the bowl this year. The play calling in San Diego has been brutal all year, and it's going to cost them.

Not to mention they're going to be playing against one of the only teams in the league that's shut down LT completely in the last 2 seasons. Just a shame they'll get to do it at home and not in Baltimore.

The Colts are in a massive free-fall here. I know I'm loving watch them implode. Here's hoping that Vince Young can manage to sneak into the playoffs as well.. they're not out of it yet.

The Bears will still come out of the NFC, but their D has taken a beating on the injury front and I'm not so sure they'll have enough to beat whoever comes out of the AFC.

KB in Kelowna
12-27-06, 6:16 PM
I think you are correct in your assessments there PDO. The NFC just does not seem to have it this year. The Ravens beat the Bears on a neutral warm weather field. I also think Tomlinson breaks whatever records are still in his reach, the only one he doesn't get is the single season yards gained record, but there is always 2007.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
12-27-06, 10:32 PM
The Ravens don't have a huge glaring weakness known as their offense? McNair has been pretty average in his role as a Raven. Jamal Lewis, he's averaging 3.6 yard per carry. The offense is average at best in Baltimore. Now put that up against San Diego and Shawne Merriman, Luis Castillo, and Shaun Phillips have field days as McNair runs for his life, as Lewis will be just as completely shut down as he was earlier in the year when he took 15 carries for 34 yards. The Baltimore defense may or may not shut down LT and the Chargers offense, but the Ravens won't do anything against the Chargers.

PDO
12-27-06, 11:16 PM
The Ravens don't have a huge glaring weakness known as their offense? McNair has been pretty average in his role as a Raven. Jamal Lewis, he's averaging 3.6 yard per carry. The offense is average at best in Baltimore. Now put that up against San Diego and Shawne Merriman, Luis Castillo, and Shaun Phillips have field days as McNair runs for his life, as Lewis will be just as completely shut down as he was earlier in the year when he took 15 carries for 34 yards. The Baltimore defense may or may not shut down LT and the Chargers offense, but the Ravens won't do anything against the Chargers.

Shawne Merriman..

Meet Jonathon Ogden.

I mean, there's a reason you play the game... but Rivers will get eaten alive by the Balitmore D.

An average offense isn't a weakness.. terrible play-calling is. It's going to catch up with the Chargers before the season is over.

Honestly, without LT to cover up for the mistakes, I'm not sure if the Chargers are a playoff team. Rivers hasn't been very good and the receiving core is nothing special.

LT is LT, no doubt... but there's a reason that he was held to less than 100 against Baltimore.

Either way, I'm hoping for a SD/Baltimore AFC championship... I think it'd be a great game. It could go either way, but I just think the Chargers are going to get burned in the playoffs.

PDO
12-27-06, 11:46 PM
Just to add..

That Baltimore offense that you're ripping on leads the league in TOP, at 32:34 / game and is 10th in points/game, at 22.3 per.

At this point I'd be shocked to not see Baltimore, Chicago and San Diego all in the final 4... they do really look to be the cream of the crop.

wildboy26
12-28-06, 8:14 AM
Chicago's chances are greatly improved now that they decided to bench the horrendous Rex Grossman and go with Griese the rest of the way.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
12-28-06, 10:34 AM
And where do you get the information that Grossman has been benched? I just looked at the Bears website and saw nothing like that. Only thing I saw was that Grossman was about to start all 16 games, which is good for Grossman after coming off the two serious injuries in consecutive seasons and the Bears, who haven't had a QB start all 16 games since 1995.

KB in Kelowna
12-28-06, 11:46 AM
Chicago's chances are greatly improved now that they decided to bench the horrendous Rex Grossman and go with Griese the rest of the way.
Where is your source? If you say obviously because Griese saw action in a game against a bottom feeder like Detroit late in the season, you would be using your Huet/Aebischer analysis and that worked out well for you before.:rolleyes:

Leafs_Fa_Life
12-28-06, 4:31 PM
I'm sure Cedric Benson will be their starting running back in the playoffs too, since Thomas Jones probably won't see the field in the second half of this Sunday's game against Green Bay.

KB in Kelowna
12-28-06, 4:36 PM
I found a "source" more likely an explanation: Though apparently part of the plan from before the start of the game, Brian Griese replaced quarterback Rex Grossman to start the fourth quarter with Sunday's battle against Detroit tied at 21. Griese played well, going 6-for-9 for 51 yards. Seeing his first action of the year, the former Michigan star marched the Bears down the field, setting up two Robbie Gould game-sealing field goals to close out the near scare. Coach Lovie Smith insisted that Grossman wasn't "benched" while talking with reporters after the game. "We wanted to get a win in the worst way and we wanted to look at a few other players," he said. Fair enough. With the best record in the NFC and home-field throughout the playoffs, Chicago is the favorite to represent the conference in the Super Bowl. At the very least, they have two capable quarterbacks available who can lead them there.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/powerRankings


Peter King at Sports Illustrated makes refence to Griese playing as well, but there is NO indication that the Bears have benched Grossman and turned the team over to Griese.

PDO
12-28-06, 4:37 PM
Where is your source? If you say obviously because Griese saw action in a game against a bottom feeder like Detroit late in the season, you would be using your Huet/Aebischer analysis and that worked out well for you before.:rolleyes:

The voices in his head.

wildboy26
12-28-06, 5:21 PM
You will see in the playoffs when Griese is starting instead of Grossman that the early signs were there for that to happen. Grossman is a pretty bad NFL standard starting QB and I have no doubt the Bears will look to replace him after this season, unless they have confidence in Griese to be the starter next year.

Actually to be honest all the NFC QBs outside of Brees, Bulger, Hasselback, McNabb, and Romo must be pretty bad. The fact Romo got into the Pro Bowl only playing half the season up until final selection speaks to all of the rest-Eli Manning, Delhomme, Campbell/Brunell, Grossman, Vick, not being that good at all. The QBs of the NFC pale in comparision to the AFC, in the AFC even somebody like Tom Brady can miss the Pro Bowl in a given year as we saw this year, in the NFC a guy playing half the season up until final selections makes it.

MadDevil
12-28-06, 8:12 PM
You will see in the playoffs when Griese is starting instead of Grossman that the early signs were there for that to happen. Grossman is a pretty bad NFL standard starting QB and I have no doubt the Bears will look to replace him after this season, unless they have confidence in Griese to be the starter next year.

I don't know, is Brian Griese really that much of an upgrade over Grossman? I don't really see how the Bears could stick with Grossman all year long through his bad games, and then suddenly bench him and throw Griese in. It just doesn't make sense to me, and Smith has let it be known (every week it seems) that Grossman is the Bears QB. I'll find it amusing when your logic is once again shot to hell.;)

wildboy26
12-28-06, 8:42 PM
Smith said last year late in the year Orton was his guy and dismissed the reporters obvious sense he was soon to put Grossman in soon. He did, Smith's bluff was seen right through. The same will happen here with bad NFL starting QB Grossman in favor of adequate NFL starting QB Griese.

Leafs_Fa_Life
12-29-06, 12:58 AM
Grossman is far from a bad NFL QB. He's in essentially his rookie season thanks to all the injuries he's had, and has played like a rookie for the most part (horrible at times, with flashes of brilliance the next). The Bears will stick with him for at least another two years.

Anyways, the only reason you're here trying to push your Grossman crap on us again is because you got owned by the posters over at HFboards on your irrational Grossman hate.

wildboy26
12-29-06, 8:41 AM
This years off season will see one of the best collection of available QBs in a long time. Leftwich, Carr, Plummer, Delhomme, one of Schaub/Vick, all possably available through FA or trade. Then in the draft all of Smith, Stanton, Brohm, Russel, possably available to the Bears with their pick late in the first round, as Quinn is the only "lock" to go before then, and possably some still late in the second round as well. Can anybody imagine the Bears passing up through possably having all 9 of those options to attempt for somehow, probably atleast 6 of them, in order to stick with "Rex Grossman".

MadDevil
12-30-06, 2:51 AM
Can anybody imagine the Bears passing up through possably having all 9 of those options to attempt for somehow, probably atleast 6 of them, in order to stick with "Rex Grossman".

Because we all know that Rex Grossman is the only young quarterback who has missed a lot of his first few seasons with injuries to struggle with his decision making. Every team should immediately dump their young QBs who make mistakes, because it's clearly a sign of a horrible QB.:thumb:

On a serious note, I'm hoping the Vikings make a run at one of the QBs you mentioned as being available, because if I have to watch Brad Johnson throw another 5 yard pass, I'm going to break something. And Travaris Jackson doesn't exactly impress me. Of course, Childress hasn't shown me much either.:curse:

wildboy26
12-30-06, 8:33 AM
I am guessing the Vikings will give Jackson a 1 year trial as starter next year, which he will fail, then pick up somebody new. If Stanton or Brohm, or less likely Smith or Rusell fall to a 2nd or 3rd round pick they might pick up 1 of them anyway though. Since none of those guys is a sure thing, and neither is Jackson it wouldnt hurt to have more then 1 fighting for the starting job.

I would be amazed if Brad Johnson was back though.

MadDevil
12-31-06, 1:29 AM
I would be amazed if Brad Johnson was back though.

Well, keep in mind this is the Minnesota Vikings we're talking about. The same organization that gives Vikings fans glimpses of false hope, and then crushes those hopes in the most painful ways imaginable.:slant:

To be honest, I have a bad feeling that Childress is going to be a bust for this team. I know it was only his first year, but I didn't see many flashes of optimism with the way he coached this year. Getting swept by the Packers and finishing ahead of only the Lions in the division is pretty sad. But then again when you have no wide receivers on the team to make any plays, what do you expect? I'll give Childress one more season before calling for his head.

wildboy26
12-31-06, 7:05 PM
Well, keep in mind this is the Minnesota Vikings we're talking about. The same organization that gives Vikings fans glimpses of false hope, and then crushes those hopes in the most painful ways imaginable.:slant:

To be honest, I have a bad feeling that Childress is going to be a bust for this team. I know it was only his first year, but I didn't see many flashes of optimism with the way he coached this year. Getting swept by the Packers and finishing ahead of only the Lions in the division is pretty sad. But then again when you have no wide receivers on the team to make any plays, what do you expect? I'll give Childress one more season before calling for his head.

I was impressed with the team in the early part of the year, they seemed to be playing a much better system, and I thought that had alot to do with Childress. I thought the Bears were going to have them breathing down their necks the whole year. I am dissapointed how they have fallen off.

wildboy26
12-31-06, 7:13 PM
For any of those who dispute Grossman being a bad NFL starting QB how many NFL starting QBs do you consider bad then? Not many since there are not many worse then him.

These are the NFL starting QBs better then him:

Brady
Manning
Palmer
Rivers
Delhomme
Romo
Leinart
Young
Eli Manning
Roethlisburger
Losman
Leftwich(I believe he is still starter there but just injured now)
Cutler
Favre
Campbell
Vick
Pennington
McNair
Green
Carr
Smith
Bulger
Brees
Hasselback
McNabb


The only ones who might be worse are:

Brad Johnson/Jackson
Brooks/Walter
Gradkowski
Harrington
Frye
Kitna


So if Grossman is not a bad NFL starting QB you are saying at most 6, or less, of the NFLs current starting QBs are bad since at most there are only 6 that are not better then Grossman. That must make for an unusualy strong group of NFL starting QBs then.

THE HACK
12-31-06, 9:07 PM
What the smurf is happening to my Dallas Cowboys?:mad:

How about those 49ers going into Denver and beating them in overtime to knock them out of the playoffs,what a shocker!

The playoff picture has now been decided and my Cowboys are playing in Seattle on Saturday Night.Normally I'd go catch this game but my wife is due with our first child sometime next week so I guess I'll be watching it on tv instead.

Go Cowboys!:thumb:

Cheers

wildboy26
12-31-06, 9:09 PM
Oh yeah the pathetic Rex Grossman so far is 1-6, an INT and botched a single snap and gave up yet another fumble as the Bears trail 13-0 to the Green Bay Packers.

wildboy26
12-31-06, 9:29 PM
Now the PATHETIC PATHETIC PATHETIC Rex Grossman is 2 for 11 with 2 INTs and another fumble. What a pathetic QB, what a disgrace to such a great team. Griese will definitely start the playoffs.

wildboy26
12-31-06, 9:42 PM
The pathetic Rex Grossman ends the quarter with his 3rd INT of the game, to go with his fumble off a simple snap. This one is classic, on the first play of the drive intercepted for a TD. The incompetent excuses of a QB rises to new levels of incompetence each game. So glad he is done.

wildboy26
12-31-06, 10:47 PM
The 75 TD pass from Griese is longer then Rex's longest PASS this year.

MadDevil
1-01-07, 2:52 AM
Jesus H. Christ, give it a rest already! You don't have to post 4 straight times ripping on Grossman for us to understand you hate the man. I believe that dead horse has been beaten to ashes by now.:thumb:

wildboy26
1-01-07, 8:58 AM
I was describing his play last night, with a new detail each time, plus a detail of the difference in play when Griese came in. All facts so cry me a river if you dont like them. :)

KB in Kelowna
1-01-07, 11:31 AM
I was describing his play last night, with a new detail each time, plus a detail of the difference in play when Griese came in. All facts so cry me a river if you dont like them. :)
You obviously think that we care. Your pathetic obsession with predicting the decline and fall of various professional athletes ( Nash/Coli/Grossman) is just sad. You are not demonstrating any unique knowledge or insight, nor gaining any respect for yourself on these and probably other boards ;) with your constant harping on these subjects even when on the rare occassion you are proven correct. Drop it!

KB in Kelowna
1-01-07, 11:33 AM
I am not sure about starting a new thread, but I saw this on the news this morning and I am struck by saddness over a senseless waste of young man at really the begginning of life. RIP Darrent Williams.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/01/01/bc.fbn.broncos.williams.ap/index.html

wildboy26
1-01-07, 12:01 PM
even when on the rare occassion you are proven correct

Even on the rare occasion I am proven correct? I have not been proven wrong once by any of Colaiacovo, Nash, McGowan, or Grossman ever.

I was wrong on predicting Huet's future in Montreal, but that was not a doom and gloom prediction like the other 3, it was an honest guess at that point. I actually like Huet, I just thought Abby was better.

THE HACK
1-01-07, 1:14 PM
I am not sure about starting a new thread, but I saw this on the news this morning and I am struck by saddness over a senseless waste of young man at really the begginning of life. RIP Darrent Williams.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/01/01/bc.fbn.broncos.williams.ap/index.html

Only 24 yrs old,this is really sad!

Hopefully the police catch these bastards quickly!

Cheers

Leafs_Fa_Life
1-01-07, 1:37 PM
Even on the rare occasion I am proven correct? I have not been proven wrong once by any of Colaiacovo, Nash, McGowan, or Grossman ever.

I was wrong on predicting Huet's future in Montreal, but that was not a doom and gloom prediction like the other 3, it was an honest guess at that point. I actually like Huet, I just thought Abby was better.

What's so special about being right on your predictions? More than half these guys have had some sort of injury problems over the past few years (odds were against them to begin with). Even if none pan out, it's not like you're the only person who didn't predict they'd fail. You're just the only one who feels the need to constantly yap about it.

Leafs_Fa_Life
1-01-07, 1:39 PM
Only 24 yrs old,this is really sad!

Hopefully the police catch these bastards quickly!

Cheers

It's horrible. So young, so much potential, and it was all taken away in the prime of his life because of some low life thugs.

RIP Darrent

KB in Kelowna
1-04-07, 11:08 PM
The playoffs start this weekend. Will the Colts stop Larry Johnson and the Chiefs? Will the Hawks end the Cowboys season? Can the Jets win Foxboro?Can Garcia weave magic for the Eagles or does Tiki have one more great game in him?

PDO
1-14-07, 2:43 PM
Even on the rare occasion I am proven correct? I have not been proven wrong once by any of Colaiacovo, Nash, McGowan, or Grossman ever.

I was wrong on predicting Huet's future in Montreal, but that was not a doom and gloom prediction like the other 3, it was an honest guess at that point. I actually like Huet, I just thought Abby was better.

Chicago is up 21-14, Grossman is 10/18 for 178 yards with a TD.

You're wrong.

Again.

PDO
1-14-07, 4:22 PM
Rex Grossman wins it for Chicago with a clutch throw.

How's that crow tasting Wild Boy?

MadDevil
1-14-07, 4:41 PM
I'm waiting to see what wildboy's excuse is going to be this time for making a prediction and being proven wrong yet again.:D

That being said, I was hoping Grossman would blow it today. Mainly because I hate the Chicago Bears...

wildboy26
1-14-07, 6:45 PM
What was so special about Grossman's play today, perhaps somebody could point out what it was since I didnt see it. 55% of his passes complete, 1 TD to 1 INT, got sacked 3 times, and for him that is supposably a good game, I guess for him mediocre is good for his standards. He did lead a good final drive in OT for the team to win, I guess that is supposed to offset the fact he did almost nothing in the 3rd and 4th quarters of the game and his final numbers were just mediocre, although as I said mediocre is good for him.

Funny how www.nfl.com notes Grossman early in their summary of the game:

Two swings of the foot by their All-Pro kicker -- the final one a 49-yard field goal 4:58 into overtime -- offset any shortcomings in Grossman's passing and pushed the Bears to a 27-24 victory over the Seattle Seahawks.

Leafs_Fa_Life
1-14-07, 6:49 PM
Shortcomings? Maybe if Muhammed held onto a couple more balls (including the one that led to the INT) his numbers would've been better.

Him getting sacked 3 times is hardly his fault. The Hawks were blitzing a lot today, and the D got to take some shots at Rex.

PDO
1-14-07, 7:56 PM
What was so special about Grossman's play today, perhaps somebody could point out what it was since I didnt see it. 55% of his passes complete, 1 TD to 1 INT, got sacked 3 times, and for him that is supposably a good game, I guess for him mediocre is good for his standards. He did lead a good final drive in OT for the team to win, I guess that is supposed to offset the fact he did almost nothing in the 3rd and 4th quarters of the game and his final numbers were just mediocre, although as I said mediocre is good for him.

Funny how www.nfl.com notes Grossman early in their summary of the game:

He just won a playoff game where he made huge plays all day. His interception hit Mushin in the chest.

He had several key drops, including one sure TD.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Besides - your exact words:

Chicago's chances are greatly improved now that they decided to bench the horrendous Rex Grossman and go with Griese the rest of the way.

You will see in the playoffs when Griese is starting instead of Grossman that the early signs were there for that to happen.

You're wrong.

KB in Kelowna
1-14-07, 10:20 PM
Memo to self, never underestimate or count the Tom Brady lead Patriots out until the final whistle blows.

MadDevil
1-15-07, 3:20 AM
Memo to self, never underestimate or count the Tom Brady lead Patriots out until the final whistle blows.

Seriously, is there a more clutch player in professional sports than Tom Brady? It seems like ice water just runs in the guys veins. His team can be down, and he makes a comeback look almost easy. The Patriots have that look about them again this year...

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
1-16-07, 12:04 AM
Seriously, is there a more clutch player in professional sports than Tom Brady? It seems like ice water just runs in the guys veins. His team can be down, and he makes a comeback look almost easy. The Patriots have that look about them again this year...

Adam Vinatieri?

KB in Kelowna
1-20-07, 3:41 PM
So can the Colts finally win the big one? Will Wildboy go apolplectic over Grossman's performance against the Saints? Ah Championship Sunday.

Madferret
1-21-07, 7:54 PM
Grossman sucked his way into the Super Bowl...

wildboy26
1-21-07, 10:34 PM
Yahoo the Colts boot out the arrogant and self absorbed Tom Brady and his Patriots. Congrats to Manning and the Colts, great come from behind win. The Patriots had so much luck in their last game and this game, they were so far from deserving a berth in the Super Bowl and super glad they did not get it.

PDO
1-22-07, 12:09 AM
The two men in football I hate most are Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.

I hate the Colts and Manning more.

Thanks Tom.

Asshole.

charlio lemieux
1-22-07, 12:14 PM
Good to see Manning and the Colts get past the Pats. It was looking pretty bad at the end of the first half.

Anyone else feel that that game was the real SuperBowl?

KB in Kelowna
1-22-07, 4:49 PM
A great effort on the part of Manning and the Colts yesterday. It was asif the team had learned from past mistakes, kept their composure and took advantage of their opportunities. When Jackon intercepted Brady he went down right away , to make sure there was no Troy Brown style take away like last week in San Diego. There are those saying that the "Monkey is off " Mannings back, but many great players play for years with perhaps only one shot at a Championship. Ted Williams played one World Series and hit poorly, but is remembered as amongst he best ever in Baseball. Had John Elway retired in the early 90's he would have been remembered as one who could get a team to the dance, but not close it out like Jim Kelly.

As for the Bears and Rex Grossman. He did his job and did not cost them the game. In the Bears only other super bowl, Jim McMahon, played well not great. That team relied on defence and a punishing ground game anchored by the Immortal Walter Payton, a player that only one won Super Bowl but who is remembered as one of the greats of the game on and off the field.

My point is, don't write off a career until it is really over. Nice to see that Tony Dungy and Lovie Smith are the first African -American Head Coaches to make it to the Super Bowl. My hope is that in a few years this will not be as big a deal as it is.

THE HACK
1-22-07, 7:09 PM
As for the Bears and Rex Grossman. He did his job and did not cost them the game. In the Bears only other super bowl, Jim McMahon, played well not great. That team relied on defence and a punishing ground game anchored by the Immortal Walter Payton, a player that only one won Super Bowl but who is remembered as one of the greats of the game on and off the field.

Grossman played ok but then came the drive in the 3rd quarter in which he completed something like 5 passes in a row and led them 80 yds down field for a td and this drive did in the Saints,he looked like an all-star!

Manning finally came up with a big drive when it counted at he end and didn't choke while Brady was the one throwing the interception when it counted.Bob Sanders got that Indy defence going and is probably the mvp of that team.

Should be a good Superbowl,offence vs defence!

On a sad note for me the Big Tuna Bill Parcells retired today and I'm sad he's not going to stick around and finished what he started with my Cowboys.So long Tuna and good luck!:)

Cheers

wildboy26
1-22-07, 7:41 PM
If the horrendous Rex Grossman does not have a terrable game I predict the Bears will win the Super Bowl. Except for the Colts having the best QB in history, and the Bears having the worst starting QB in the history of the NFL, the Bears are equal or better in every other area.

charlio lemieux
1-24-07, 4:16 PM
Hmmm.

Rex Grossman as a starting QB in the SUPERBOWL.

You must be having trouble sleeping WB. :D

THE HACK
1-25-07, 8:37 PM
If the horrendous Rex Grossman does not have a terrable game I predict the Bears will win the Super Bowl. Except for the Colts having the best QB in history, and the Bears having the worst starting QB in the history of the NFL, the Bears are equal or better in every other area.

If Trent Dilfer can win a Superbowl then so can Grossman!:D

Cheers

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
1-26-07, 1:24 AM
If the horrendous Rex Grossman does not have a terrable game I predict the Bears will win the Super Bowl. Except for the Colts having the best QB in history, and the Bears having the worst starting QB in the history of the NFL, the Bears are equal or better in every other area.

Did you just call Peyton Manning the best QB in the history of the NFL? Wow. He isn't even in the top 5 yet, let alone #1. And Rex Grossman being the worst ever? You are going backwards here. To start the season, he's the worst starting QB in the NFL, and now that's he in the Superbowl, he's the worst ever? Worst QB ever.....you must've never heard of Bobby Hoying.

PDO
1-26-07, 2:17 AM
If the horrendous Rex Grossman does not have a terrable game I predict the Bears will win the Super Bowl. Except for the Colts having the best QB in history, and the Bears having the worst starting QB in the history of the NFL, the Bears are equal or better in every other area.

Luckily for Rex, "terrable" isn't a word, so I suppose the Bears are guaranteed a victory?

wildboy26
1-27-07, 3:02 AM
Did you just call Peyton Manning the best QB in the history of the NFL? Wow. He isn't even in the top 5 yet, let alone #1. And Rex Grossman being the worst ever? You are going backwards here. To start the season, he's the worst starting QB in the NFL, and now that's he in the Superbowl, he's the worst ever? Worst QB ever.....you must've never heard of Bobby Hoying.

Ok let me alter my words slightly the best QB in the game today vs the worst starting QB in the game today. Is that better? I was in a dramatic mood before, ever for both is too much, but Manning=best QB today, Grossman=worst starting QB in the entire NFL.

I dont see why my stance on Grossman should improve from before the season because the Bears made the Super Bowl. The Bears were picked by some people to get out of the weaker NFC and make it to the Super Bowl, I am not saying they were the clear favorites are anything, but they were one of the 4 teams or so with a very good shot at making it before the year for sure. It is not like it is a big surprise from pre-season thoughts that they made it, and that was even with people knowing Grossman or Griese would be the teams QB(blech)and the team would have to overcome that. I actually expected the Bears to make the Super Bowl, even knowing that horrendous Grossman might be their QB, I believed they could overcome even Rex "interceptaurous" Grossman and they did, although I did believe Griese might be the starter over him(and hoped he would). Was his almost 1 INT per every TD, low 70s QB rating, low 50s Pass %, kind of stats on such a strong team actually better then people imagined? If so the expectations for him must be extremely low.

There is a reason Angelo seems very hesitant to offer his starting QB a contract extension, despite the fact the Bears with him are in the Super Bowl.

wildboy26
1-27-07, 3:07 AM
Hmmm.

Rex Grossman as a starting QB in the SUPERBOWL.

You must be having trouble sleeping WB. :D

Not really, when I read articles coming out asking "is he the worst Super Bowl QB ever", and other articles saying what an embarassment it would be for Manning to lose a Super Bowl to a stumbling bumbling hack like Grossman, it gives me great comfort, and I wouldnt want it any other way. :laughing:

charlio lemieux
1-31-07, 11:57 PM
OK.....

Who's gonna win?

I'm going to say Colts, by 8.

wildboy26
2-01-07, 1:48 AM
The Bears will win 31-28.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
2-01-07, 9:32 AM
I got the Bears coming out on top in this one. The defense is fast and ferocious. They have the CBs that can shut down the WRs for the Colts with that little thing called physicality, and I dare Manning to attempt to try to abuse the defense with Clarke and Utecht. See how bad they get demolished afte Briggs and Urlacher catch em over the middle a couple times. The only consistent play Manning will have will be dump off passes to Addai, and only because he'll be able to make some things happen in the open field, but other than that the offense will be shut down for the most part. Rex Grossman will play the part of the QB that manages the game like he has throughout the entire playoffs and let Jones and Benson do the dirty work. The game might be close, but I invision a Super Bowl like the one we saw with the Ravens in 2000.

MadDevil
2-01-07, 3:24 PM
I think it'll be a close game for the most part, but the Bears could run with it if their defense forces a couple turnovers. I gotta go with the better defense, and that's clearly the Bears in this one. Like Liam said, the Bears will wear down the Colts defense with the run game, and let their defense do what it does best.

It's too bad I have to work Super Bowl Sunday.:curse:

wildboy26
2-01-07, 8:45 PM
I would like to cheer for the Bears since I prefer them, and the hype around the Colts and Manning, as great as he is, is annoying. However I am worried if the Bears win Grossman will be given a multi-year contract extension despite contributing nothing to the teams success, and I dont want that. So I am mixed. Part of me hopes the Bears lose and Grossman has a 3-4 INT game so they can get rid of him finaly and get a real QB, and then they can win next year hopefully.

PDO
2-01-07, 11:37 PM
I would like to cheer for the Bears since I prefer them, and the hype around the Colts and Manning, as great as he is, is annoying. However I am worried if the Bears win Grossman will be given a multi-year contract extension despite contributing nothing to the teams success, and I dont want that. So I am mixed. Part of me hopes the Bears lose and Grossman has a 3-4 INT game so they can get rid of him finaly and get a real QB, and then they can win next year hopefully.

You'd rather your team lose so that you can get a better QB and win next year?

That may be the dumbest thing I've ever read..

wildboy26
2-02-07, 12:33 AM
The Bears will be better off the next 4-6 years is if it without Grossman. I fear if the Bears win the Super Bowl, and Grossman even has an adequate game, not a great game, they will offer him a 3-5 year extension(he has an option for nex year)and it will be another 4-6 years of Bears fans having to realize their great team is a laughing stock because of some horrendous QB who dominates all the news. The team will have to endure their chances of winning being reduced by this below standard QB who they have to find ways to cover up for, and win inspite of.

If they lost and he played a horrable game in the loss, they could just not pick up his option and end the sad Rex saga for good, and get a real QB. Somebody like David Carr, Bryan Leftwich, Troy Smith, Drew Stanton, Matt Schaub. The Bears havent had a real QB since Jim McMahon, who was just a reasonably good NFL QB, but still they havent even had that since, and they still dont. It is worse for the fans much older then me who tell me the stories of how they long to have even a decent NFL QB starting for them, the agony of awful NFL QB after awful NFL QB taking turns as the Bears starting QB.

Just look at their recent QBs: Henry Burris, Craig Krenzel, Chad Hutchinson, Kyle Orton, Rex Grossman, Kordell Stewart, Chris Chandler. I am just fearful of the Bears after many years of switching from one terrable NFL QB to another like a game of hot potatoe, instead of finaly getting a decent NFL QB, they will now stick to one terrable one for good and the poor Bears fan will have to endure certainly another long period of a terrable NFL QB making their team the laughing stock no matter how well they do.

MadDevil
2-02-07, 1:46 AM
Your team is in the Super Bowl and you're bitching about your starting QB? If Grossman was really as horrible and pathetic as you say he is I doubt the Bears would be where they are. I really don't see how you justify wanting your team to lose when Grossman, in his first full, healthy season has managed to get to the Super Bowl. But then I guess blind, ridiculous hatred driven by some sort of personal vendetta will do that to people.:thumb:

wildboy26
2-02-07, 6:27 AM
I already explained, I am sick of the Bears never having a good QB, even an adequate QB in fact. I am sick of the revolving doors of awful QBs the team has, as are many Bears fans and in the Bears forums I post on and a couple of the people I know personaly in Chicago feel the same way. Being stuck to another awful QB for another 4-6 years which will bring the Bears period of only awful QBs to 20 full years or so is not something you get excited about.

I hate that the team has become a bit of a mockery because of their constant joke of a QB situation, and it still is that, if you believe I am the only one who feels that way(LOL!)you must have seen nothing of the media week press conferences leading up to the Super Bowl. I dont know how many times Rex has been asked if he is the worst Super Bowl QB ever; in fact how bad a QB Grossman, how a team could be in the Super Bowl with the incompetent or stumbling/bumbling(among other things he has been refered by media people as)Grossman has dominated much of media week. Heck even the over the top gushfest over Manning, has been overshadowed to some extent by the slamfest of Grossman. So Grossman has managed to overshadow Manning in a way, but certainly not on a football field, LOL. You should also check up a newsgroup of stories, everyone is "Grossman worst Super Bowl QB ever?" "Will incompetent Grossman lose it for Bears", "The Bears have one of the leagues worst-Rex Grossman", "how did Bears make Super Bowl with Grossman".

I guess I still hope they win, but the bad part of all that is the multi-year contract extension likely to go to Rex if they do, and the Bears tradition of awful starting QBs stretching another 4-6 years, even if the revolving door aspect stops for awhile. I would love to see Matt Schaub, Bryan Leftwich, David Carr(if Houston cuts him), Troy Smith, Drew Stanton, one of those guys that unlike Rex do have some potential on a good team to be atleast solid QBs in the league(actually Leftwich already was before being hurt). It is about time the Bears atleast give themselves a chance of having a good NFL QB, rather then always having a QB they have to survive inspite of.

KB in Kelowna
2-02-07, 11:24 AM
So an inadequate quaterback who leads his team to a Superbowl is automatically guaranteed a contract extension and OBVIOUSLY ;) is the starter for the next 5 seasons. Exhibit A: Trent Dilfer and the Baltimore Ravens:rolleyes:

wildboy26
2-02-07, 11:31 AM
The Bears are much more entrenched in Grossman then The Ravens were in Dilfer, you cant even compare the two situations. The Bears truly have a Gross-ly inflated opinion of him that hasnt changed now. He would not have gotten a 3rd shot to start after two major injuries otherwise, they would not have waited until his 2nd major injury to bring in a veteran the following year otherwise, he would not have still been starting after 4 3 or 4 INT/0 TD/sub-40 QB rating games in a stretch of only 7 games when they payed big money to bring in a veteran backup otherwise... They are looking for any excuse to give him a contract extension, and playing super bad in the super bowl and the team losing is about the only thing that would give them no excuse not to be able to.

KB in Kelowna
2-03-07, 8:05 PM
I will go with the Colts. The Bears stumbled late in the season, and not just because of Grossman. The Colts seem to play stronger down the stretch on both sides of the ball, and did not rely on the heroics of Peyton Manning to get them to Miami. The AFC was stronger than the NFC this year and I think that the Colts will prevail/ Of course I could be wrong, which is why I quit betting.;)

PDO
2-04-07, 5:41 PM
Will us Canadians ever get the American feed to the Superbowl?

I have CBS on my satelite.. it should be the American commercials, damnit!

The Insider
2-04-07, 5:44 PM
Will us Canadians ever get the American feed to the Superbowl?

I have CBS on my satelite.. it should be the American commercials, damnit!

I heard that you tube will have them on after the game if you really want to see them.

Mel
2-04-07, 5:58 PM
My predictions thus far in my life have proven no better than spinning a bingo roullette wheel, so take this for what it's worth (*ahem* not much)

Peyton Manning has had it up to here being tagged as the all-pro quarterback who chokes in the big games. The tag is frankly deserved, based on history, but he knows this is his time to stand and deliver.

Tonight Peyton eradicates that stigma once and for all. I say he has a huge game, passes for 1,000 yards.......... (ok, a lot of yards).... and picks the bears apart like a surgeon.

I don't predict a blow-out. In fact the Colts might trail at times.

But Peyton comes out of this victorious.

If I'm wrong.... well.... I'm wrong :D

but I'm pulling for Peyton to get his ring. He's a humble and classy superstar in a league unfortunately filled with a lot of jerks. Go Peyton!


PS - happy bowl watching fellaz :)

PDO
2-04-07, 6:15 PM
I heard that you tube will have them on after the game if you really want to see them.

I can't just sit down and watch commercials.. but I'd like to actually enjoy the commercials I see opposed to the crappy Canadian ones.

KB in Kelowna
2-04-07, 8:02 PM
I can't just sit down and watch commercials.. but I'd like to actually enjoy the commercials I see opposed to the crappy Canadian ones.
Come on PDO, don't you know that the CRTC is protecting our Canadian culture and hertitage by having us watch the same 6 commercials and promos for Global News.:laughing:
Does anyone know if those with HD are getting an HD feed with Canadian commercials or the regular feed? If I had paid $$$ for a big screen and HD channels I would be pee'd off if all I was getting was the regular feed.

wildboy26
2-04-07, 9:42 PM
Rex Grossman is playing like the hopeless loser I always said he was. The one good thing is he will be cut and I will never have to see him again. He is just a huge loser.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
2-04-07, 10:25 PM
Well, the Bears defense did pretty much what I expected, with the exception of run defense. Shut down the passing game for the most part, only allowing RB dump offs and some easy passes. Manning had an OK game and was awarded with the MVP. Now I get to hear ESPN kiss Manning's butt until the beginning of next season. Dominic Rhodes should be highly agitated that he was robbed of the MVP of the season's biggest game.

Plain and simple, Rex Grossman lost the game. He had 4 turnovers, horrible decisions, and looked flat out scared in the Super Bowl. I can't believe I'm about to say this, but wildboy had one right this time.

MadDevil
2-05-07, 1:13 AM
Plain and simple, Rex Grossman lost the game. He had 4 turnovers, horrible decisions, and looked flat out scared in the Super Bowl. I can't believe I'm about to say this, but wildboy had one right this time.

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.:D

The way the Colts dominated time of possession this game really shouldn't even have been as close it was. Only the Bears red zone defense (or Indy's inability to finish off several drives with TDs) kept this from being a blowout. Once again it goes to show that I'm horrible at predicting NFL games.:laughing:

THE HACK
2-05-07, 5:31 PM
Come on PDO, don't you know that the CRTC is protecting our Canadian culture and hertitage by having us watch the same 6 commercials and promos for Global News.:laughing:
Does anyone know if those with HD are getting an HD feed with Canadian commercials or the regular feed? If I had paid $$$ for a big screen and HD channels I would be pee'd off if all I was getting was the regular feed.

I watched the game in HD on the CBS feed and actually got all the American commercials.The Canadian commercials were on the Global feed so CBS is the channel I watched the game on.

Indy deserved this win as they outplayed the Bears and Grossman sucked it up when the team needed him the most.The combo of Rhodes and Addai came through while Manning outplayed Grossman.Indy didn't blow out many teams this year and worked on the defence and it payed off in a Superbowl win,Congrats!:thumb:

Cheers