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To keep things more organized, I'm going to start a thread to make the picks in. That way everybody can see who is taken. Again, the draft order is as follows:
1. MadFerret
2. LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
3. PDO
4. charlio lemieux
5. Mel
6. Man.Utd
7. J.R.
8. MadDevil
And with that, Ferret you are clear to open things up.
Madferret
8-26-06, 4:45 PM
Ovechkin
Since Liam isn't able to make it, I'll be selecting for him. In case anybody is wondering, I'll be using Yahoo's fantasy rankings for his.:)
Joe Thornton
charlio lemieux
8-26-06, 5:09 PM
PDO took Kiprussof.
I took Pronger.
6th overall: Peter Forsberg (C)
Since I'm picking for Mel, he's going to take Jaromir Jagr....go figure.:laughing:
Patrik Elias....yeah I'm a homer.
Madferret
8-26-06, 5:12 PM
Crosby
charlio lemieux
8-26-06, 5:15 PM
Niedermayer, Scott
12th overall: Niklas Lidstrom
Madferret
8-26-06, 5:19 PM
Gionta
Liam takes Spezza
I take Staal
After Andy...
Henrik Zetterberg.
charlio lemieux
8-26-06, 5:21 PM
Vokoun
18th overall: Markus Naslund
Madferret
8-26-06, 5:22 PM
Ryan Miller
Jarome Iginla
The draft order's getting out of whack.:laughing:
Jokinen to Liam, I take Hemsky
Madferret
8-26-06, 5:26 PM
Redden
Liam takes McCabe, I'll take Selanne
24th overall: Simone Gagne
30th Overall: Tomas Kaberle
charlio lemieux
8-26-06, 5:31 PM
Phaneuf
Madferret
8-26-06, 5:31 PM
Briere
I forgot to post my last 2 picks
Gomez and Zubov
36th overall: Vincent Lecavailer
charlio lemieux
8-26-06, 5:35 PM
Chara
Regher
42nd overall: Marty St. Louis
48th overall: Alex Kovalev
Brian Rolston.
Marc Savard.
charlio lemieux
8-26-06, 5:44 PM
Sundin
Morris
54th overall: John-Michael Liles
charlio lemieux
8-26-06, 5:56 PM
Brind'amour
Tkachuk
Kariya
60th overall: Mark Recchi
66th overall: Freddy Modin
72nd overall: Dan Boyle
78th overall: Dom Hasek
PDO's Perfect Players
Kovalchuk - Staal - Selanne
Richards - Horcoff (C) - Hemsky
Smyth - Lindros - Hunter
Roberts - Nieuwendyk - Williams
Bouwmeester - Ohlund (A)
Stuart - Smith (A)
Tarnstrom - Andrei Markov
Kiprusoff
Roloson
PP #1
Kovalchuk - Staal - Selanne
Bouwmeester - Richards
PP #2
Smyth - Horcoff - Hemsky
Tarnstrom - Lindros
PK #1
Niuewendyk - Roberts
Smith - Ohlund
PK #2
Horcoff - Richards
Markov - Stuart
4 on 4
Kovalchuk - Staal
Bouwmeester - Tarnstrom
Horcoff - Smyth
Stuart - Markov
5 on 3 PK
Nieuwendyk
Stuart - Smith
Lindros
Markov - Ohlund
Extra Attacker:
Richards
Horcoff
Shoot Out:
Kovalchuk
Staal
Selanne
Richards
Hemsky
.. is that everything? and please make sure you get me the good Williams, MD ;)
J.R.'s RENEGADES
ROSTER
Centres
23 - Chris Drury, 5'10", 180 lbs.
20 - Robert Lang, 6'2", 217 lbs.
12 - Patrick Marleau (C), 6'2", 220 lbs.
9 - Marc Savard, 5'10", 195 lbs.
Left Wingers
16 - Andrew Brunette, 6'1", 210 lbs.
21 - Brian Rolston, 6'2", 210 lbs.
22 - Daniel Sedin, 6'1", 190 lbs.
40 - Henrik Zetterberg, 6'0", 190 lbs.
Right Wingers
44 - Todd Bertuzzi (A), 6'3", 245 lbs.
10 - Marian Gaborik, 6'1", 190 lbs.
51 - Dany Heatley, 6'3", 217 lbs.
15 - Joffrey Lupul, 6'1", 203 lbs.
Defencemen
4 - Rob Blake (A), 6'4", 225 lbs.
13 - Pavel Kubina, 6'4", 230 lbs.
27 - Teppo Numminen, 6'2", 198 lbs.
6 - Jaroslav Spacek, 5'11", 204 lbs.
28 - Brian Rafalski, 5'10", 190 lbs.
45 - Kimmo Timonen, 5'10", 196 lbs.
Goaltenders
30 - Martin Brodeur, 6'2", 210 lbs.
31 - Curtis Joseph, 6'1", 190 lbs.
TEAM LINEUP
H. Zetterberg - P. Marleau - D. Heatley
B. Rolston - R. Lang - M. Gaborik
A. Brunette - C. Drury - T. Bertuzzi
D. Sedin - M. Savard - J. Lupul
J. Spacek - R. Blake
B. Rafalski - T. Numminen
K. Timonen - P. Kubina
M. Brodeur
C. Joseph
SPECIAL TEAMS
(1) Powerplay
Zetterberg - Marleau - Heatley
Blake - Gaborik
(2) Powerplay
Rolston - Drury - Bertuzzi
Rafalski - Spacek
(1) Penalty kill
Marleau - Heatley
Blake - Spacek
(2) Penalty kill
Brunette - Drury
Rafalski - Numminen
(1) Four-on-four
Zetterberg - Heatley
Blake - Spacek
(2) Four-on-four
Rolston - Gaborik
Rafalski - Numminen
(1) Three-on-five
Marleau
Blake - Spacek
(2) Three-on-five
Drury
Rafalski - Numminen
Extra attackers
Heatley
Gaborik
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The Rogues
Elias (A) - Gomez - Iginla (C)
Frolov - Demitra - Hejduk
Calder - Modano - Sullivan
Ekman - McDonald - Sykora
Pitkanen - Zubov (A)
Souray - Martin
Jovanovski - White
Luongo
Toskala
PP #1
Elias - Gomez - Iginla
Zubov - Pitkanen
PP #2
Frolov - Demitra - Hejduk
Jovanovski - Martin
PK #1
Elias - Modano
Souray - Zubov
PK #2
Ekman - McDonald
Pitkanen - White
4 MAN PP #1
Elias - Gomez
Pitkanen - Zubov
4 MAN PP #2
Iginla - Demitra
Souray - Jovanovski
3 MAN PK #1
Elias
Souray - Zubov
3 MAN PK #2
Modano
Pitkanen - White
Extra Attackers
Elias
Demitra
*Dropped Parise for J. Jokinen
*Dropped Conroy for McDonald
*Dropped Parrish for Sykora
*Dropped J. Jokinen for Ekman
90th overall: Glen Murray
96th overall: Bryan Berard
102nd overall: Cory Stillman
108th overall: JS Giguere
charlio lemieux
8-26-06, 6:38 PM
Kariya - Sakic(C) - Guerin
Tkachuk - Sundin(A) - Zherdev
Peca - Brind'amour - Lehtinen
Hartnell - Madden - Langenbrunner
Niedermayer(A) - Chara
Pronger(A) - Phaneuf
Regehr - Morris
Vokoun
Nabokov
*Guerin - Dropped - add Peca
*Prucha - Dropped - Add Guerin again.
Simon Gagné - Peter Forsberg (A) - Markus Naslund
Cory Stillman - Vincent Lecavailer - Martin St. Louis
Sergei Fedorov - Saku Koivu (A) - Alex Kovalev
Mark Recchi - Patrice Bergeron - Glen Murray
Nicklas Lidstrom (C) - Tomas Kaberle
Lubomir Visnovsky - Dan Boyle
Bryan Berrard - John Michael Liles
Jose Theodore
Dominik Hasek
* Dropped Giguere for Theodore.
* Dropped Modin for Fedorov
4 on 4 #1
Naslund - Forsberg
Lidstrom - Boyle
4 on 4 #2
Lecavailer - St. Louis
Visnovsky - Liles
PP #1
Gagné - Forsberg - Naslund
Lidstrom - Berard
PP #2
Kovalev - Lecavailer - St. Louis
Visnovsky - Boyle
PP 4 on 3 #1:
Gagné - Forsberg
Lidstrom - Boyle
PP 4 on 3 #2:
Naslund - Lecavailler
Visnovsky - Berard
PK #1
Koivu - Fedorov
Lidstrom - Boyle
PK #2
Gagné - Bergeron
Visnovsky - Kaberle
PK 5 on 3 #1:
Fedorov
Lidstrom - Kaberle
PK 5 on 3 #2:
Koivu
Visnovsky - Boyle
Extra Attacker #1
Forsberg
Extra Attacker #2
St. Louis
Shootout
Naslund
St. Louis
Gagné
Lecavailer
Kovalev
Madferret
8-26-06, 6:41 PM
The Silver Seven
L1 - Ovechkin / Crosby / Gionta
L2 - Havlat / Briere / Satan
L3 - Cole / Weight / Boyes
L4 - Vermette / Fisher / Afinogenov
D1 - Redden / Boynton
D2 - Leetch / Phillips
D3 - Zidlicky / Campbell
G - Miller
BG - Gerber
BOOM!
charlio lemieux
8-26-06, 7:05 PM
The Silver Seven
BOOM!
Yep, that should be the sound the everytime Ovechkin gets leveled by Pronger. :wicked:
Madferret
8-26-06, 7:16 PM
Yep, that should be the sound the everytime Ovechkin gets leveled by Pronger. :wicked:
Gotta catch him first.
How does this work now anyways?
charlio lemieux
8-26-06, 7:27 PM
I can't believe you ended up with both.
Lucky bugger.
Too bad for you this isn't a keeper league.
Never in my wildest dreams did I think Crosby would slip to 9th.
Get your boys ready for the tourney.
You'll need PP and PK 5 and 4 man. List of Shoot out players. Two extra skaters for delayed penalties. Whatever is in the game.
Madferret
8-26-06, 7:52 PM
I can't believe you ended up with both.
Lucky bugger.
Too bad for you this isn't a keeper league.
Never in my wildest dreams did I think Crosby would slip to 9th.
Get your boys ready for the tourney.
You'll need PP and PK 5 and 4 man. List of Shoot out players. Two extra skaters for delayed penalties. Whatever is in the game.
Not too bad 1-2 punch their eh.
So what's the deal with the tourney anyways? How is it set up?
I'll get my special teams lines together shortly..
Oh, and for the record..
Mel I picked both yours and Liam's teams from Yahoo's O-list.
I don't know how some of the things that happened there happened. Mel was 1 pick away from adding both Straka and Roszival to his team. Never mind Jagr-Morrow-Lundqvist-Nylander-Malik...
And Liam somehow pulled off Mike Richards, along with the JT-Cheechoo connection, and oddly enough has Turco backing up Fernandez.
and oddly enough has Turco backing up Fernandez.
He could switch it up when he makes his lines. Personally, I would do just that as I expect Turco's solid regular seasons - playoffs put aside - would have won him a higher EA rating than that of the more quietly effective Fernandez.
Turco was who I really wanted as my backup. But I'm very happy with Hasek as a starter if injuries are off. 78th overall was a steal for him as I think he's pretty much as good as any of the other elite in the league in Kipper / Brodeur / Luongo / etc. I had a feeling he would be around when he was though.
charlio lemieux
8-26-06, 10:14 PM
4 on 4 #1
Kariya - Sakic
Pronger - Phaneuf
4 on 4 #2
Tkachuk - Sundin
Niedermayer - Chara
PP#1
Kariya - Sakic - Sundin
Pronger - Phaneuf
PP #2
Tkachuk - Brind'amour - Guerin
Neidermayer - Zherdev
4PP #1
Kariya - Sakic
Pronger - Phaneuf
4PP #2
Tkachuk - Sundin
Neidermayer - Chara
PK #1
Madden - Lehtinen
Regher - Morris
PK #2
Brind'amour - Peca
Pronger - Phaneuf
3PK #1
Madden
Regher - Morris
3PK #2
Peca
Pronger - Phaneuf
Extras
Brind'amour
Lehtinen
MadDevil
8-26-06, 11:44 PM
Now that the draft has been completed, trades can be made between any teams up until next Saturday at midnight. Just post some kind of a trade agreement in this thread, and I'll make the necessary changes in the rosters before simming. If you haven't already, please post all your PP, PK, and extra attackers at some point in the next couple weeks. Shootout lineups don't really matter, as there won't be any shootouts in this game (just the way it should be).
LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
8-27-06, 1:09 AM
Now that the draft has been completed, trades can be made between any teams up until next Saturday at midnight. Just post some kind of a trade agreement in this thread, and I'll make the necessary changes in the rosters before simming. If you haven't already, please post all your PP, PK, and extra attackers at some point in the next couple weeks. Shootout lineups don't really matter, as there won't be any shootouts in this game (just the way it should be).
But can we drop players for guys that weren't picked?
But can we drop players for guys that weren't picked?
Dammit, I knew I forgot to add something.:doh: :o
Each team can drop up to 4 players from their current roster for somebody not chosen in the draft. Just make sure you let everybody know in this thread what player was dropped, and who was picked up to replace him. Once a player is dropped, he can be picked up by any other team.
LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
8-27-06, 2:19 AM
I'm dropping Holmstrom for Prospal.
charlio lemieux
8-27-06, 11:20 AM
Drop Guerin for Peca.
Good luck with your PP's People. :rollover:
Injuries are off, but do we need to pick up spares if suspensions etc occur? I have seen that happen in past versions of the game.
Thanks for picking my team fellaz. :pimp:
So if I understand this right I'm just supposed to arrange my lines and units the same way some of you guys already did. Then what?
PS: Let me know if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming PDO meant to say Boucher and not Bouchard as my top defensemen.
Mel's Leaning Tower of Evil
L1 Rick Nash - Michael Nylander - Jaromir Jagr(A)
L2 Brendan Shanahan(C) - Jason Arnott - Daniel Alfredsson
L3 Brendan Morrow(A) - Pavel Datsyuk - Marian Hossa
L4 Mark Bell - Daymond Langkow - Shane Doan
D1 Phillipe Boucher - Andre Meszaros
D2 Joe Corvo - Marek Malik
D3 Greg de Vries - Tom Preissing
G1 Henrik Lundqvist
G2 Cam Ward
PP #1
Shanahan - Datsyuk - Jagr
Boucher - Malik
PP #2
Nash - Arnott - Alfredsson
Corvo - Meszaros
PK #1
Shanahan - Arnott
Meszaros - de Vries
PK #2
Langkow - Morrow
Corvo - Malik
4-on-4 #1
Shanahan - Jagr
Boucher - Corvo
4-on-4 #2
Nash - Alfredsson
Meszaros - Malik
5-on-3 PK #1
Arnott
Meszaros - Malik
5-on-3 PK #2
Shanahan
de Vries - Corvo
Extra Attackers
Jagr
Nash
charlio lemieux
8-27-06, 11:31 AM
Maybe pick up a replacement for the duration of the suspension?
That could work. Hopefully suspensions etc can be turned off. But in past games they have been known to occur over the course of a playoffs. Often it is for fighting too much over a certain peioed of games, and fighting happens pretty frequently with many physical players even if they don't drop the gloves regularily in real life.
I figured the grit/intimidation/size aspect wouldn't matter much in a video game and focused on speed, skill, and mobility for my lineup instead. So it won't pose a problem for my squad anyway. But it could be a drawback for others if they end up a skater or two short of a roster.
* Turning off fighting might solve most of this issue but you could also argue it penalizes the bigger, tougher teams and benefits the more finesse ones like mine.
Yeah, Sorry Mel, typo... Boucher from Dallas.
Andy: I'm pretty sure you can turn off suspensions.
That way Smith and Torres can beat the hell out of your team and take them off the ice ;)
Yeah, Sorry Mel, typo... Boucher from Dallas.
Andy: I'm pretty sure you can turn off suspensions.
That way Smith and Torres can beat the hell out of your team and take them off the ice ;)
Good on the suspensions if they can be turned off.
And we'll have to wait and see how physical play factors in. In NHL 06 I found it fairly non-existant, or at least enough to justify picking faster, more skill oriented players. Playing last year's edition it seemed any star player (which everyone drafted) had amazingly unrealistic puck control, balance, and strength on the puck. But even more so was the speed factor. Slower players were almost useless for me when playing since they couldn't even come close to catching up to their faster count-parts.
I took a few gambles / made a few assumptions when deciding my drafting stratagy basing it all on how I figured the game would be played. I hope they pay off. Had I been drafting a NHL team to ice, or even for a Yahoo! style league, I would have done things much different
Madferret
8-27-06, 3:13 PM
Do we know what the match-ups will be yet?
I'm totally lost on how we play this thing out...:shrug:
Good on the suspensions if they can be turned off.
And we'll have to wait and see how physical play factors in. In NHL 06 I found it fairly non-existant, or at least enough to justify picking faster, more skill oriented players. Playing last year's edition it seemed any star player (which everyone drafted) had amazingly unrealistic puck control, balance, and strength on the puck. But even more so was the speed factor. Slower players were almost useless for me when playing since they couldn't even come close to catching up to their faster count-parts.
I took a few gambles / made a few assumptions when deciding my drafting stratagy basing it all on how I figured the game would be played. I hope they pay off. Had I been drafting a NHL team to ice, or even for a Yahoo! style league, I would have done things much different
Agreed, I took a very similar approach and took several gambles as well; specifically a few Oilers who in any other year I think may have been under-rated, but due to coming off of the playoff run, I'm expecting to be over-rated... suppose time willl tell ;).
If I was going to list my gambles, I'd say Horcoff, Pisani, Torres, Beauchemin, Smith would all count. I'm assuming that Kiprusoff would be close to God, given his ridiculous season last year.
Do we know what the match-ups will be yet?
I'm totally lost on how we play this thing out...:shrug:
I think that MD will pull the ranks out of a hat and we'll have our matchups?
Madferret
8-27-06, 4:17 PM
Just reverse the draft order..
I think that MD will pull the ranks out of a hat and we'll have our matchups?
You're correct. And on the suspension issue, since I'll be simming the games one at a time, I don't think it will be a problem. Suspensions usually only take place in Season or Dynasty modes.
charlio lemieux
8-27-06, 5:23 PM
Good on the suspensions if they can be turned off.
And we'll have to wait and see how physical play factors in. In NHL 06 I found it fairly non-existant, or at least enough to justify picking faster, more skill oriented players. Playing last year's edition it seemed any star player (which everyone drafted) had amazingly unrealistic puck control, balance, and strength on the puck. But even more so was the speed factor. Slower players were almost useless for me when playing since they couldn't even come close to catching up to their faster count-parts.
I took a few gambles / made a few assumptions when deciding my drafting stratagy basing it all on how I figured the game would be played. I hope they pay off. Had I been drafting a NHL team to ice, or even for a Yahoo! style league, I would have done things much different
It's different from when you play it to when the computer sims the games, or even when the computer controls the players during your game.
Next time you play, don't be a defenseman when the puck is in your zone. Stay a forward and watch what your D-men do. The computer uses them better than I can. Especially when it comes to positioning.
I picked a team to try and shut down all these High-powered offenses. Apparently the exact opposite of what everyone else did. I do think I have enough "pop" up front to score more than what will be needed. My defense corps awaits the challenge.
It's different from when you play it to when the computer sims the games, or even when the computer controls the players during your game.
Next time you play, don't be a defenseman when the puck is in your zone. Stay a forward and watch what your D-men do. The computer uses them better than I can. Especially when it comes to positioning.
I picked a team to try and shut down all these High-powered offenses. Apparently the exact opposite of what everyone else did. I do think I have enough "pop" up front to score more than what will be needed. My defense corps awaits the challenge.
Yeah, well..
I'll be playing firewagon hockey with a god-like Kiprusoff in net. I'm still debating mixing my lines up a little more, not sure if it's a good move or not yet.
What I do know is that on my number 1 line I have 3 players that have amazing puck control, a world class passer and two of the best finishers in the game.
For the record, if I was building a team to play in the NHL, this is closer to how I'd build the team than most people here. Goalies and forwards drive results (and always have) far more than defensemen. I'd probably spend about $7MM on goaltending (elite goaltending.. that means Kiprusoff-esque..), $12MM-$14MM on my D (mostly Jason Smith types, with one Zidlicky type and one Salo type but no huge names), and the remaining $22MM on forwards, with only about $1.2MM spent on the fourth line.
LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
8-27-06, 8:09 PM
I'd also like to drop Zubrus and Sutton for Tuomo Ruutu and Paul Mara.
Nagy - Thornton(C) - Cheechoo
Prospal - Spezza - Svatos
Tangauy - Jokinen - Knuble(A)
Straka - Richards - Ruutu
McCabe - Gonchar
Roszival - Schneider(A)
Mara - Van Ryn
Turco
Fernandez
Extra Attackers
Spezza
Jokinen
PP
Nagy-Thornton-Cheechoo
McCabe-Roszival
Tangauy-Spezza-Svatos
Gonchar-Schneider
Nagy-Thornton
McCabe-Roszival
Cheechoo-Spezza
Gonchar-Schneider
PK
Knuble-Jokinen
Mara-Roszival
Ruutu-Richards
Van Ryn-Schneider
Ruutu
Mara-Roszival
Richards
Van Ryn-Schneider
Yeah, well..
I'll be playing firewagon hockey with a god-like Kiprusoff in net. I'm still debating mixing my lines up a little more, not sure if it's a good move or not yet.
Same here, only with Hasek. I thought he would be available late so I didn't draft my goalie until like 80th overall. EA generally makes good goalies gods as you said, and I figured Hasek would be almost as good as anyone else in the game give or take 2 or 3 overall points. So why not use earlier picks on roster players with the earlier selections? With no injuries I consider it to be far and away my best "value" pick.
What I do know is that on my number 1 line I have 3 players that have amazing puck control, a world class passer and two of the best finishers in the game.
Your top line is quite dangerous, though I wouldn't have taken Hemsky or any Oiler that early. I fear they will all suffer from "Edmonton syndrome" failing to get any wide-spread recognition and not in an EA video game of all places.
I like my top line alot too. Foppa is the playmaking / puck-control master. Naslund is one of the game's best snipers even for an off year and as a recent EA cover boy should be rated very highly. Gagne is a fast two-way forward who can score and has chemistry with Forsberg.
I would have liked more top-end talent (see: missing out on Jagr and then Hossa by one pick, in consecutive rounds) but I got somewhat unlucky with draft position with no snaking order to make that happen. I can't complain with what I have though. I really like my all Tampa Bay 2nd line of Modin - Lecavailer - St. Louis. It's similar to the first line in that is has a playmaking centre in Lecavailer (who will likely be overrated and was their last coverboy), one sniper (St. Louis, who should be overrated aswell) and one two-way guy who can score (Modin). Team chemistry was also a big factor for me if I could make it possible while not sacraficing too much overall quality.
For the record, if I was building a team to play in the NHL, this is closer to how I'd build the team than most people here. Goalies and forwards drive results (and always have) far more than defensemen. I'd probably spend about $7MM on goaltending (elite goaltending.. that means Kiprusoff-esque..), $12MM-$14MM on my D (mostly Jason Smith types, with one Zidlicky type and one Salo type but no huge names), and the remaining $22MM on forwards, with only about $1.2MM spent on the fourth line.
Not a bad plan. It should be fun to see how all the draft stratagies turn out. I didn't focus too much on defense. All my blueliners are more offensive minded. We'll see if that gamble pays off or sees my GA totals sky rocket. Charlio meanwhile has more defensive rear guards. In real life I think his blueline is definatly the best assembled but I do question how it will work in a game that typically leans more towards arcade results than realism. There are lots of interesting points to this draft. :)
Same here, only with Hasek. I thought he would be available late so I didn't draft my goalie until like 80th overall. EA generally makes good goalies gods as you said, and I figured Hasek would be almost as good as anyone else in the game give or take 2 or 3 overall points. So why not use earlier picks on roster players with the earlier selections? With no injuries I consider it to be far and away my best "value" pick.
Agreed.. very smart pick that didn't even cross my mind, you definitely get some major props for that. Personally if I'm looking at my best value pick.. I look at Andrei Markov. Many would consider the guy a #1 D in the league, and I got him around round 17 or 18.
Your top line is quite dangerous, though I wouldn't have taken Hemsky or any Oiler that early. I fear they will all suffer from "Edmonton syndrome" failing to get any wide-spread recognition and not in an EA video game of all places.
Well, like I said in the draft room, I'm banking that they'll get some Calgary syndrome going on, much like the Flames did in NHL 2005. They will be the automatic team selected for anyone who wants to play for the WC, so I'm banking that the playoff hero's from 06 will be rated atleast similar to what they would be in real life.
And Hemsky became a God in 2005. ;)
Not a bad plan. It should be fun to see how all the draft stratagies turn out. I didn't focus too much on defense. All my blueliners are more offensive minded. We'll see if that gamble pays off or sees my GA totals sky rocket. Charlio meanwhile has more defensive rear guards. In real life I think his blueline is definatly the best assembled but I do question how it will work in a game that typically leans more towards arcade results than realism. There are lots of interesting points to this draft. :)
I'm banking that Charlio's experiment blows up in his face.
... much like I expect it to blow up in Burke's face. Ever wanna see something cool.. look at Niedermayers #'s. Look at them when he's on the ice with Selanne and when he's not. Then look at Selanne's numbers when he's on the ice with Niedermayer and when he's not.
I'll put it this way... 3 of those result in some very good numbers.
1 of them doesn't. Guess which :]
charlio lemieux
8-27-06, 8:55 PM
The computer sim will make better use of my elite rear-guard than I ever could. And they will make far fewer mistakes in the sim game than they would in real life.
Hopefully over 7 games they will pound the likes of Ovechkin, Crosby, Jagr and Thornton into submission.
:)
charlio lemieux
8-27-06, 8:58 PM
So if you get your wish PDO, Peca and Pronger should be over valued too, since both were big parts in EDM's post season success. Wow an over valued Pronger. That thought makes me smile. :)
The computer sim will make better use of my elite rear-guard than I ever could. And they will make far fewer mistakes in the sim game than they would in real life.
Hopefully over 7 games they will pound the likes of Ovechkin, Crosby, Jagr and Thornton into submission.
:)
Good thing I don't have any of those players :D
So if you get your wish PDO, Peca and Pronger should be over valued too, since both were big parts in EDM's post season success. Wow an over valued Pronger. That thought makes me smile. :)
Yeah.. I was very close to taking Peca over Stoll for that exact reason.
I just figured with Stoll having a sexy slapshot and 70 points last season.. he's a lock to be ridiculous in NHL '07 ;)
charlio lemieux
8-27-06, 9:18 PM
Peca is only going to be on my 4th line and a PK specialist. Like Madden and Lehtinen.
Just call them the Selke line. :)
Madferret
8-27-06, 9:49 PM
The 'Coldwar' line.. Ovechkin / Crosby / Gionta
BOOM!
charlio lemieux
8-27-06, 10:24 PM
The 'Coldwar' line.. Ovechkin / Crosby / Gionta
BOOM!
Huh??
Do another bowl and explain, please.
Agreed.. very smart pick that didn't even cross my mind, you definitely get some major props for that. Personally if I'm looking at my best value pick.. I look at Andrei Markov. Many would consider the guy a #1 D in the league, and I got him around round 17 or 18.
Markov was indeed a very good pick. I was about to take him over Berard but the latter has simply had insane PPG totals for many years now on strictly average teams. A Sens fan, I knew about his gifts when we drafted him even if the situation ended up a mess. In the end I just liked the idea of having Berard take PP passes from Kaberle and Lidstrom more than I did Markov although both have great shots. The one thing that scares me with Berard are injuries hurting his EA rating, but Markov has always been under appreciated himself. At least everyone is aware that Berard is an offensive talent......... and that's pretty much it but this is EA Sports. :)
If my predictions on EA's rating system and most effective styles for defensemen prove true guys like Berard and Markov will prove valuable for us. I got Berard in round 16 so I guess we were thinking alike in terms of late round, offensively gifted defensemen to play the bottom pairing and boost a PP unit.
Well, like I said in the draft room, I'm banking that they'll get some Calgary syndrome going on, much like the Flames did in NHL 2005. They will be the automatic team selected for anyone who wants to play for the WC, so I'm banking that the playoff hero's from 06 will be rated atleast similar to what they would be in real life.
We shall see. But while everyone wanted to jump on Calgary's "playoff hockey" bandwagon of the old NHL (see: cheap, dirty, clutching and grabbing hockey to compete and hoping to score on your one chance a game) I didn't quite see the same spark for the Oil. They had good support, don't get me wrong, but I think the Flames having their run just one season earlier left many casual fans already rooting for one Alberta team (and effectively, against the other).
I too am hoping certain players get overrated on my squad. With Tampa's recent fame I'm certain St. Louis and coverboy Lecavailler will be. Likely Boyle aswell, maybe Modin too (now in Columbus). Naslund as another former coverboy who should get solid ratings with his credentials. And Recchi's solid production for so many years with established name and Cup win might push him over the top. Ditto for Stillman, with two Cups in the past two seasons while being a PPG player.
Still hoping chemistry counts..........
I'll drop Giguere for Theodore. He's always been highly rated and I doubt that changes. If it does due to his bad season, it's only the backup to Hasek.
I'm dropping Parise, Conroy, and Parrish for Jussi Jokinen, Andy McDonald, and Petr Sykora. Jokinen finished 4th among rookies in points and McDonald almost tripled his previous point total, so I figure they both might get a little overated in the game. Sykora is usually rated decently well, better than Parrish anyway.
Just a couple things on the rosters, please make sure you have your even strength, PP, 4 Man PP, PK, 3 Man PK, and extra attackers listed. And also include who you want as your captain and alternates.
Dropping Beauchemin for Dick Tarnstrom, Torres for Roberts, Stoll for Lindros and Pisani for Sykora.
I will update my lines accordingly in due time :)
Mad Devil already subbed in Sykora, but going for safer picks now I see for an EA style game.
Pisani for Trent Hunter.
Either that, or the numbers (http://sports.ign.com/articles/728/728775p1.html) are out... and don't make any sense ;).
charlio lemieux
8-29-06, 3:07 PM
Pick Guerin back up and drop Prucha.
That was a waste of a move.
How Guerin is an 86 is beyond me.
Theodore has a better rating than Vokoun? :eyebug:
Madferret
8-29-06, 3:09 PM
The EA ratings are trash.
charlio lemieux
8-29-06, 3:16 PM
The EA ratings are trash.
I agree.
Regher an 80????
Let me open my legs wider so you can kick me in the nuts again.
I agree.
Regher an 80????
Let me open my legs wider so you can kick me in the nuts again.
Phaneuf is an 89.
Anyone who watched any one Calgary game and had half a brain could tell you (at THIS point in their careers) that Phaneuf couldn't hold Regehr's jockstrap.
I figured some kids would get ranked higher than they should, but christ.. Phaneuf at 89?! He was a third pairing defenseman last season!
charlio lemieux
8-29-06, 3:28 PM
I figured the two would have had each others ranking.
Phaneuf an 80 maybe an 84 at the absolute max.
Regher should have atleast been 85-87 on a bad day.
I figured the two would have had each others ranking.
Phaneuf an 80 maybe an 84 at the absolute max.
Regher should have atleast been 85-87 on a bad day.
Yup. And he should be pretty equal to Jason Smith... who is a 79.
Personally I'd have Phaneuf around 76, Regehr around 88 and Smith around 86.
I swear the average fan could do this better than EA can.
charlio lemieux
8-29-06, 3:45 PM
I didn't even look at Smith. 79!!!
What a joke. I see EA doesn't care about leadership.
Smith should be atleast an 82.
I didn't even look at Smith. 79!!!
What a joke. I see EA doesn't care about leadership.
Smith should be atleast an 82.
The other thing that's always bugged me about EA is that the ranking system is really 50-99, and as far as players that actually play in the NHL go, 70-99.
I mean, why shouldn't a guy like Georges Laraque be around a 10 for speed, while an Ovechkin is around 97? Why don't they compare it to the rest of the league. Comparable to the league, Laraque is a 10 while Ovechkin is a 97.. that'd make a lot more sense, would it not?
Looking at the skating speeds (and shot powers) on the Oilers actually made me laugh.
Moreau, Horcoff are both average skaters (in reality, along with Hemsky and Bergeron, they're the 4 best on the team by a very significant margin), Smyth is the best puck handler (and Horcoff and Bergeron are both better than Hemsky) and Smyth had the hardest slapshot on the team; while Stolls cannon comes in at an even 80.
Unbelievable.
Oh..
The Oilers best fighter isn't Smith. Or Moreau. Or Torres. Or Winchester Heck, it's not even Horcoff, Hemsky or Lupul Nope... it's Danny Syvret! :laughing:
Madferret
8-29-06, 4:59 PM
Gerber 85
Emery 80
Raycroft 88
LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
8-29-06, 4:59 PM
No, the average fan would buy into the hype of Phaneuf and also rank hiim higher than Pitkanen.
Madferret
8-29-06, 5:29 PM
No, the average fan would buy into the hype of Phaneuf and also rank hiim higher than Pitkanen.
Going through the Sens rosters..
Mike Fisher 79
Chris Phillips 76
Andrej Meszaros 76
Peter Schaefer 77
Garbage.
Raycroft is an 88, that's un-f'ing believable..
Hasek an 84?!?!? Thank God I swapped backups for the trusty overrated Theodore at 90! :eek: My goaltending would be in quite the poor position otherwise.
On another note, I love the ratings of my players. My plan to pick overrated and offensive players seems to have worked reasonably well. Amazingly well up front, average on the back line (though I hope the offensive stats and style of play will somewhat counter that).
PDO, I think stars have unrealistically high speed in comparison to non-stars for one reason; speed and mobility = success in the EA sports game. Period. Hence my picks being based as they were. Shooting, passing, defense and hockey skill be damned....... when siming speed is everything. That's why they had to give Spezza speed in the 90's. Otherwise he'd be useless regardless of his other talents. And it explains why they couldn't rank Vermette - the fastest Senator and one of the faster skaters in the league - in the 70's. He'd be too dangerous for his role if he was fairly ranked.
Madferret
8-29-06, 10:51 PM
I can get a copy of modified ratings after the game comes out. Doc it's your call..
prucha_for_mvp
8-29-06, 10:56 PM
Pick Guerin back up and drop Prucha.
What a bad move.
charlio lemieux
8-29-06, 11:41 PM
What a bad move.
In real life I would totally agree. But this game has Prucha rated a 78 and Guerin an 86 and way faster. It's a no-brainer with these ratings.
What a bad move.
To be honest I didn't even know which team this "Prucha" character plays for, so I doubt he'll be winning any MVP award.
No, the average fan would buy into the hype of Phaneuf and also rank hiim higher than Pitkanen.
Phaneuf an 89, while Pitkanen is an 84 is a complete joke. Pitkanen had only 3 less points than Phaneuf last year, and played 24 less games (not to mention he played the most minutes of any defenseman for the Flyers, while Phaneuf was #4 on his own team). But everybody here had to know this kind of stuff was coming. It is EA after all.
Ferret, about the updated ratings, to be fair to everyone I'm just going to go with the ratings as are. That way we all know where we stand. Besides, I'll be using the PS2 version to do the simming, so the updates would take a while.
LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
8-30-06, 3:44 PM
And a lot of people, like myself and ManU already picked up and dropped people based off of the rankings that EA would surely screw up.
Damn, my move on Jokinen didn't quite pan out. I'm dropping him for Nils Ekman (who is somehow rated 82 in this game)
And a lot of people, like myself and ManU already picked up and dropped people based off of the rankings that EA would surely screw up.
Yep. :) And it worked out very well. My lineup's stats are much higher than they should be but I drafted to arange it as such. If my prediction of offensive defensemen being valued above defensive / two-way blueliners in simming is accurate, my defense will also prove a huge success.
The one drawback was Hasek. He was only rated an 84!!! Thankfully, I prepared for that before I even knew it by subbing in Theodore - always very overrated - for Giguere who was coming off a season where his Conn Smythe shine all but wore off. I thought it was a move to give me two very strong goalies. When I found out the ratings were already out and took a look at Hasek and Theo........ :eek:. It looks like Hasek will actually be playing 2nd string to the man who had a SV% of .882 last season and a GAA of 3.41. :rolleyes:
It can be either class half full or half empty for my goalies. On one hand, I thought my late round coupe in Hasek was giving me a God-like goalie in an EA game. So that was a let down. On the other side of the coin, my switch of goalies intended to just solidify the backup position will prove to be much more vital than that, giving me a quality starter who was barely of backup quality in real life.
* PDO in particular I found got totally screwed by going Oiler heavy. He's used up all of his subs but is still left a bit light with certain players being CRIMINALLY underrated like Hemsky. I had a feeling Edmonton would once again be EA's dog to kick, even after an impressive Cup run.
* PDO in particular I found got totally screwed by going Oiler heavy. He's used up all of his subs but is still left a bit light with certain players being CRIMINALLY underrated like Hemsky. I had a feeling Edmonton would once again be EA's dog to kick, even after an impressive Cup run.
Yup, I got absolutely murdered. I took a gamble the cup run would help them out.. I was wrong. Instead Morrison > Horcoff, Cooke > Torres, Salo > Smith, Sedin's > Hemsky.
Siiiiigh.
Hemsky being an 82 just leaves me in disbelief.
I got the low end of what I thought Horcoff would be, and can live with that. Smyth was a pleasant surprise at 88, especially after seeing Hemsky at 82.
EA screwed it up as usual, but I drafted as best I could to suit their crazy rating schemes. :)
With ratings now out I'm tempted to make one or two switches _I have 3 left - but don't want to abuse this new knowledge. Getting lucky with Theodore was nice, espcially with Hasek not being the world beater I was counting on but rather something of a backup for a draft like this, but I don't want to get too greedy. While many posters have holes to fill due to some messed up ratings - much like yourself - my team turned out pretty good in terms of being over/under rated. Other than Hasek, Kaberle at 83 is the only blemish (and I was heavily debating drafting his overrated partner McCabe in his place too.....). I think I will make a switch or two, but only sometime close to the deadline (midnight Saturday) so I don't snatch up some of the players that other teams could use after bending over for EA.
Yup, I got absolutely murdered. I took a gamble the cup run would help them out.. I was wrong. Instead Morrison > Horcoff, Cooke > Torres, Salo > Smith, Sedin's > Hemsky.
Siiiiigh.
Hemsky being an 82 just leaves me in disbelief.
I got the low end of what I thought Horcoff would be, and can live with that. Smyth was a pleasant surprise at 88, especially after seeing Hemsky at 82.
EA didn't buy into the hype around the Oilers going all the way to the Finals, but did buy into the hype around Phaneuf. That must really chap your ass.:wicked:
I got lucky for the most part with my homer picks, although how Parise is a 74, while Martin is only a 76 is beyond me. Nice to see Brodeur is the second highest rated goaltender though.:D
EA didn't buy into the hype around the Oilers going all the way to the Finals, but did buy into the hype around Phaneuf. That must really chap your ass.:wicked:Oh so funny, but it doesn't "chap my ass." What would you rather be: overrated or underrated? Exactly. :thumb:
MadDevil
8-30-06, 11:05 PM
Oh so funny, but it doesn't "chap my ass." What would you rather be: overrated or underrated? Exactly. :thumb:
You mean overated as in Dwayne Roloson's ratings?:D
The games haven't even started and we're already trash talking...:laughing:
LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
8-31-06, 1:50 AM
Oh so funny, but it doesn't "chap my ass." What would you rather be: overrated or underrated? Exactly. :thumb:
You do realize that PDO isn't JR, right?
You do realize that PDO isn't JR, right?
That's what you think.
(And MD, it's like skiing in Whistler without pants and sliding down the whole way.)
Madferret
8-31-06, 10:48 PM
Doc before this starts let me put up some altered ratings that are going to be allot more realistic.
charlio lemieux
9-01-06, 12:04 AM
Doc before this starts let me put up some altered ratings that are going to be allot more realistic.
Why would you want to open that can of worms?
You think we will be able to agree on what a player's value is?
As screwy as the ratings are, they are what we agreed to. If you want to go changing the player values now, we might aswell just draft over.
Why would you want to open that can of worms?
You think we will be able to agree on what a player's value is?
As screwy as the ratings are, they are what we agreed to. If you want to go changing the player values now, we might aswell just draft over.
While I probably will just go with the default ratings, it wouldn't hurt to at least see what the altered ratings look like.
Just a reminder, the trade/add/drop deadline is tomorrow night at midnight.
I don't like the sounds of any new ratings for my team having puposely drafted to get the most out of EA's overrating tendancies. :)
I don't like the sounds of any new ratings for my team having puposely drafted to get the most out of EA's overrating tendancies. :)
Well, like I said, it would be interesting to see what the altered ratings look like. I will be using the original ratings though, so everybody is on the same playing field. Besides, once I start simming games, who knows what's going to happen.
I'll make one change to my team due to the ratings being released, dropping Freddy Modin for Sergei Fedorov.
This leaves me one winger short with an extra centre but I don't think it will prove a problem in a video game. I'll edit my lineup shortly.
Madferret
9-03-06, 2:41 PM
Why would you want to open that can of worms?
You think we will be able to agree on what a player's value is?
As screwy as the ratings are, they are what we agreed to. If you want to go changing the player values now, we might aswell just draft over.
Why? Because most people picked there team based on the belief that EA knew what the f it was doing with it's player ratings.
I don't know how any of you fellows couldn't see this coming from a mile away. It's EA Sports! A staple of their games is to overrate and underrate player as they see fit, usually benefitting established names even if they are long past their primes / players who put up points regardless of circumstances / "flashy" players / players coming off of big years.
I know I was one person who was very adament - even in the live chat - about picking to take advantage of EA's infamous flaws. I believe it was PDO who I told was likely making a mistake in taking so many Oilers, though his stratagy of taking a gamble on them for his lower lines was fair given Edmonton's Cup run.
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One thing I think everybody should do is post their current lineup with ratings when time allows. We should see how bad things are. If the situation is totally messed up then we can discuss have a re-draft and using adjusted ratings, picking players before the new ratings come out. That would be the fairest way IMO. That way people don't get screwed by EA but also players such as myself don't get punished for managing to identify and then explot the situation even before it was confirmed. My team for example looks very good now on paper now with ratings / chemistry etc but would take a huge hit with altered rankings. It'd be just as unfair to me to use new ratings without a re-draft as it would be to players who got screwed by the current ones without one, since I picked alot of players I normally wouldn't have earlier in the draft to get the most of EA's crazy tendancies.
charlio lemieux
9-03-06, 11:35 PM
Why? Because most people picked there team based on the belief that EA knew what the f it was doing with it's player ratings.
So? Everybody was at the same disadvantage. I really don't want to get into some pissing match because one person thinks player A should be an 84 and someone else thinks he should be an 88 and someone else thinks he is overrated and should only be a 78.
It is a can of worms that should be left closed.
Re-drafting with any new ratings is different. Post the ratings, so everyone knows what they are and they can't come crying later about getting screwed.
Speaking of getting screwed, did anyone get screwed more than me? Maybe PDO, but anyway, I picked my team based on the 2k series of ratings which use Leadership as a big part of winning when you sim games. Well guess what I was surprised to see. EA doesn't even use leadership as an attribute. When I needed a tie break between players I used leadership as the breaker. After basing my entire selection process on an attribute EA doesn't even use, you would think I should be the loudest call for change, but everybody was equal to start with. If my Leadership method, or PDO's Cinderella teams being overrated method, of selecting players were wrong, oh well. Ottawa thought Daigle was going to be a franchise player. Owen Nolan was supposed to be the final piece to make the Leafs champs. Point being GM's make mistakes, and have to live with them. I am quite content to ice the team I have.
If we do re-draft, let's not rush it so much.
MadDevil
9-11-06, 10:23 PM
For the record, there will be no redrafting. Anybody who has not finalized their rosters, please make sure you have all your lines edited in the next couple days. And if you haven't already, please come up with a team name, so I can use it in the recaps. I'll be picking up NHL 07 when it comes out tomorrow, and will put the teams together in the next couple of days. I'll be posting the first recaps either Friday or Saturday (I'm not sure if I have to work on Friday or not).
Speaking of the simming, I'm sure everybody would like to know who they're matched up against, so here are the first round matchups (the matchups are completely random)...
LiAmTrAnSdEmOn vs J.R.
MadFerret vs Man.Utd
Mel vs MadDevil
charlio lemieux vs PDO
Done and done MD... I think I have everything?
Still wish the ratings weren't so wonky... Hemsky at 82 just absolutely raped my team. I figured he was a shoe in for 90 :(
Man.... I was a bit bummed about picking 6th, but now I gotta face Ferret in the 1st round. :no:
Oh well. I think my picking for chemistry / accurately predicting EAs overrating tendancies worked out the best it could. I think my team matches up pretty well assuming offense from the defense is more important than actually being able to play in your own end (another one of my predictions is that all defensemen will be made roughly equal at "defending" with the difference being the skating/shooting attributes).
The Beer League Bandits are ready to go. Lineup with ratings (boosted due to chemistry?):
Simon Gagné (90) - Peter Forsberg (94) (A) - Markus Naslund (93)
Cory Stillman (87) - Vincent Lecavailer (91) - Martin St. Louis (94)
Sergei Fedorov (90) - Saku Koivu (91) (A) - Alex Kovalev (90)
Mark Recchi (86) - Patrice Bergeron (86) - Glen Murray (88 )
Nicklas Lidstrom (93) (C) - Tomas Kaberle (83)
Lubomir Visnovsky (85) - Dan Boyle (87)
Bryan Berrard (85) - John Michael Liles (83)
Jose Theodore (90)
Dominik Hasek (85)
* Here are my PK / PP units etc for simming purposes (http://www.hockeystation.com/showpost.php?p=47489&postcount=62)
charlio lemieux
9-12-06, 9:30 AM
Man.... I was a bit bummed about picking 6th, but now I gotta face Ferret in the 1st round. :no:
Oh well. I think my picking for chemistry / accurately predicting EAs overrating tendancies worked out the best it could. I think my team matches up pretty well assuming offense from the defense is more important than actually being able to play in your own end (another one of my predictions is that all defensemen will be made roughly equal at "defending" with the difference being the skating/shooting attributes).
The Beer League Bandits are ready to go. Lineup with ratings (boosted due to chemistry?):
Simon Gagné (90) - Peter Forsberg (94) (A) - Markus Naslund (93)
Cory Stillman (87) - Vincent Lecavailer (91) - Martin St. Louis (94)
Sergei Fedorov (90) - Saku Koivu (91) (A) - Alex Kovalev (90)
Mark Recchi (86) - Patrice Bergeron (86) - Glen Murray (88 )
Nicklas Lidstrom (93) (C) - Tomas Kaberle (83)
Lubomir Visnovsky (85) - Dan Boyle (87)
Bryan Berrard (85) - John Michael Liles (83)
Jose Theodore (90)
Dominik Hasek (85)
* Here are my PK / PP units etc for simming purposes (http://www.hockeystation.com/showpost.php?p=47489&postcount=62)
Nice to see Mr. one eyed, "Defense? What's defense?" Bryan Berard is 5 points better than Regehr is overall. F'n hilarious.
So week 1 is the battle of the GM's who guessed wrong. PDO and I will determine who got raped worse by the rankings. Loser wins I guess.
I had better recheck my lines.
Why am i the only one who has absolutely no idea what's going on? :confused:
How do I find out what rank my players are?
charlio lemieux
9-12-06, 10:27 AM
Post #103, PDO provided a link.
Why am i the only one who has absolutely no idea what's going on? :confused:
It comes from being a Rangers fan I suppose.:nod: :D
Let the trash talking begin...
It comes from being a Rangers fan I suppose.:nod: :D
Let the trash talking begin...
LOL zing :)
I guess it's no coincidence that we are the first matchup ay Dizzle? :nod:
MadDevil
9-13-06, 12:20 AM
LOL zing :)
I guess it's no coincidence that we are the first matchup ay Dizzle? :nod:
Just watch, your team of mostly Rangers will end up wiping the floor with my team.:laughing:
I looked at the ranks and I still have no clue what's going on.
Therefore I predict my team will dominate and bring home the cup!
3 PIMPS!
:pimp: :pimp: :pimp:
I looked at the ranks and I still have no clue what's going on.
Therefore I predict my team will dominate and bring home the cup!
3 PIMPS!
:pimp: :pimp: :pimp:
I have 4, therefore I win!
:pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp:
:wave:
MadDevil
9-13-06, 11:10 PM
I have 4, therefore I win!
:pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp:
:wave:
And I have the power of controlling the simming, therefore I win!
:wave:
I finally got NHL 07 this afternoon, and will start putting the teams together. Unfortunately I work every day through Sunday, so it might take me a bit longer than I hoped it would. The first recaps should be up either very late Friday, or early Saturday at some point. I'm going to try to do two games a day, but I can't promise anything. I will get at least one a day done though.
MadDevil
9-13-06, 11:37 PM
I just noticed looking through the rosters that only Ferret has yet to post his PP/PK lines (unless I missed it somewhere). If you could please post those MF, then all will be ready for simming.:)
Madferret
9-14-06, 1:50 AM
Oops..
Coming up
Madferret
9-14-06, 2:08 AM
The Silver Seven
L1 - Ovechkin / Crosby / Gionta
L2 - Havlat / Briere / Satan
L3 - Cole / Weight / Boyes
L4 - Vermette / Fisher / Afinogenov
Redden / Boynton
Zidlicky / Campbell
Leetch / Phillips
G - Miller
BG - Gerber
PP
Ovechkin / Crosby / Gionta
Redden / Boynton
Havlat / Briere / Satan
Leetch / Campbell
Crosby / Havlat
Redden / Boynton
Ovechkin / Briere
Zidlicky / Campbell
PK
Vermette / Fisher
Redden / Boynton
Weight / Boyes
Zidlicky / Campbell
Fisher
Redden / Boynton
Vermette
Zidlicky / Campbell
C - Fisher
A - Redden
A - Leetch
Well, we seem to have a problem. I tried putting the teams together last night, but since most were well over $44 million in overall salary, it won't let me save the teams. I checked to see if I could turn the salary cap off, but it doesn't seem to be an option. So the only solution I can think of is for all of us to put together teams that fit under the cap. It would probably mean a redraft, trades, or adding/dropping players. If anybody has any other ideas, I'd be glad to hear them.
Leave it EA to throw a monkey wrench into things...:slant:
charlio lemieux
9-15-06, 3:04 PM
What about 2k7?
Could it be simmed as a tournament, instead of a playoffs, so there is no cap?
I am just throwing out ideas.
Re-drafting to fit under a cap could take a while. A far more challenging task.
I'm game, if enough of these other guys think they can handle it. :wicked:
Madferret
9-15-06, 3:58 PM
We got the time to re-draft...
Well, we seem to have a problem. I tried putting the teams together last night, but since most were well over $44 million in overall salary, it won't let me save the teams. I checked to see if I could turn the salary cap off, but it doesn't seem to be an option. So the only solution I can think of is for all of us to put together teams that fit under the cap. It would probably mean a redraft, trades, or adding/dropping players. If anybody has any other ideas, I'd be glad to hear them.
Leave it EA to throw a monkey wrench into things...:slant:
Let's have simulated lockout and give our selves a little more cap room under the new pretend collective bargaining agreement and then resume play. Hey it's not our money right?
:shrug:
Just to get a rough idea, who would still be interested if we re-drafted? The salaries could make it a bit tough, if there's a list out there of the salaries of the players in NHL 07, it would be helpful but I don't know if there's one out there. If anybody wants to drop out, that's fine with me. If not enough people are interested, I might just drop the whole thing.
charlio lemieux
9-17-06, 10:10 AM
I'm in.
This may be missing the most recent signings, I'm not sure.
Just click on the team name on the left.
http://hockeyanalysis.com/?page_id=324
Too much work for my blood having to look up various salaries before I make each pick, accounting for the $$$ I'll want to leave open for later in the draft along chemistry issues etc. You guys have fun with the re-draft though.
Just to get a rough idea, who would still be interested if we re-drafted? The salaries could make it a bit tough, if there's a list out there of the salaries of the players in NHL 07, it would be helpful but I don't know if there's one out there. If anybody wants to drop out, that's fine with me. If not enough people are interested, I might just drop the whole thing.
MD, this sounds like a gigantic cramp in the a$$ for all involved.
Can you have the thing just draft us up a league... I mean enter all us managers in the system and then tell the thing to conduct it's own simulated draft. If that's an option... that would alleviate all this salary cap nonsense, it will not assemble a team that's over the cap, we've already seen that.
So once we get our rosters set, perhaps we could have a period of time to conduct moves and trades - and EA would watch the cap for us.
I don't know if that's possible, but based on what you have said - it seems like the only practical way to get this off the ground is to let EA assemble "realistic" teams, and then we work from there.
Well, it's looking less likely that this is going to happen. The only option right now would be to use NHL 2K7 for the simming, but I'm not sure if they have the same kind of restrictions that NHL 07 has. If anybody here has 2K7, and would like to see if there are any salary limitations to created teams (I'm assuming they have a create team mode), it's probably the only option left right now. If that doesn't work, this thing is pretty much dead.
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