Question for British Columbians

[Canucklehead]

Who will vote for in the upcoming provincial election?

My opinion:

Personally I have never been found of Gordon Campbell or the Lie-berals. Even before he got slammed and drove home while on his vacation in Hawaii. He has a history of cutting jobs and breaking promises and just comes of as a real pompus ass most of the time. So I would never vote for him.

Then there's the green party. I like the green party, in fact my dad taught the candidate in our riding, but has anyone ever actually seen there proposed budget? I mean, do they even have one? They seem a little too idealistic.

The final party, and my favorite, is the NDP :thumb: Last time they were in power they weren't too good but I think it's time for a change. Carol James seems like a good candidate and they seem like a party who wants to do everything to help public programs etc....

To the mods: I put this in the Vancouver section and not the lounge because it's just a question to British Columbians and thought it would be better suited here.

This forum is for discussion of the Vancouver Canucks. Politics can be discussed in the lounge. Moved. :) - Matt

[TimmyTabasco]

Alright..I voted for NDP.

However, I am not a big fan of the leader. I think they could have done a lot better.

Moe Sihota? :laughing:

Campbell is an ass..should have resigned long ago. The fact he is allowed to still run, makes me truly sick

[KB in Kelowna]

I remember back in 1991, the only time I ever voted for the NDP :doh:, people were fed up with Socreds and ready to throw them out. Same thing with 2001 when the NDP got turfed. This time I don't think people are that mad, the BC Liberals will win, with a reduced number of seats.

I am voting Green. To my mind the only party talking about doing things differently and no beholden to special interests, be it Unions or business.

Frankly I am tired of the NDP running around calling Gordon Campbell the anti-Christ. They are full of rhetoric on the Campbell cuts, but are very short on specifics regarding any changes they would make, hospitals they would re-open and so on.

[Canucklehead]

I am voting Green. To my mind the only party talking about doing things differently and no beholden to special interests, be it Unions or business.

Frankly I am tired of the NDP running around calling Gordon Campbell the anti-Christ. They are full of rhetoric on the Campbell cuts, but are very short on specifics regarding any changes they would make, hospitals they would re-open and so on.
You believe NDP aren't specific enough about how they bring about change so you're voting Green? Aren't Green even less specific and have even more theories on change that much are much less possible then the NDP?

[KB in Kelowna]

You believe NDP aren't specific enough about how they bring about change so you're voting Green? Aren't Green even less specific and have even more theories on change that much are much less possible then the NDP?


I remember both the cuts and the deficits imposed by the NDP. They are great at blaming others, and this demonization of Gordon Campbell has reached the point of satire. Frankly I don't believe them, my support of the Greens is based on the fact a freind is running for them and they are trying to put issues on the table that haven't been seriously discussed, such as sustainablity and accountability. You are entitled to your opinion, I do not intend to try to persuade you to switch your support, I hope you repect my right to vote my conscience.

[Canucklehead]

I remember both the cuts and the deficits imposed by the NDP.
TBH I don't remember the deficits or the cuts because last time the NDP was in power I was to young to care.They are great at blaming others, and this demonization of Gordon Campbell has reached the point of satire.
Maybe I've been sucked in. Both my parents are teachers and my dad was the head of the teachers union when Campbell came into power. My family isn't exactly full of Campbell supporters. my support of the Greens is based on the fact a freind is running for them and they are trying to put issues on the table that haven't been seriously discussed, such as sustainablity and accountability. You are entitled to your opinion, I do not intend to try to persuade you to switch your support, I hope you repect my right to vote my conscience.
I hope your freind does well. I do respect your position, sorry if it didn't come off that way.

[Bob burns]

Alright..I voted for NDP.

However, I am not a big fan of the leader. I think they could have done a lot better.

Moe Sihota? :laughing:

Campbell is an ass..should have resigned long ago. The fact he is allowed to still run, makes me truly sick

I was gonna type the exact same thing you Saucey character. Carole James is a goof, but Campbell is the biggest crook on this side of the Rockies. It's a green vote for Burns this time around, although Carr does not really catch my eye.

[TimmyTabasco]

I was gonna type the exact same thing you Saucey character. Carole James is a goof, but Campbell is the biggest crook on this side of the Rockies. It's a green vote for Burns this time around, although Carr does not really catch my eye.

For my area, it has been the Liberals..Reni Masi.

However, he retired..or something happened to him? :laughing:

These days the NDP signs are much more visible..compared to the Liberals.

The green candidate also looks strong. I think he ran federally, and almost got my vote back then.

[Iced Tea]

I'm voting for the Liberals because my local candidate (George Abbot) is a great representative for this region.

Also, by voting for the Liberals, I'm voting for the lesser of two evils. The NDP has hosed BC too many times in the past for me to forgive and forget. As for the Green Party, it doesn't have a snowball's chance in heck of leading this province so my vote would be wasted.

[slapshot™]

I'm puzzled. Looking through my viewmaster...eer...I mean binoculars....to the west across the mountains....

http://mixoftheweek.com/sidetalking/index_files/viewmaster_sidetalkin.jpg

...I see a plethora of parties to choose from.....

Registered British Columbia Political Parties
Allegiance Party (http://www.geocities.com/bcallegiance/website)
Alternative Party
Annexation Party (http://www.annexationbc.com/)
Bloc British Columbia Party
British Columbia Party (http://bc_party.tripod.com/)
British Columbia Youth Coalition
Canadian Alliance Party
Centre Democratic Party
Citizens Action Party (http://www.capbc.org/)
Citizens Alliance Now (http://www.bccitizensalliancenow.com/)
Citizens Commonwealth Federation
Communist Party
Confederation Party
Conservative Party (http://www.bcconservatives.ca/)
Democratic Futures Party
Emerged Democracy Party (http://www.vote-ed.com/)
Enterprise Party
Free Canadian Party (formerly Bald Eagle Party)
Freedom Party (http://www.thepunks.com/freedom.html)
Idealists Party
Labour Party
Link BC
Marijuana Party (http://www.bcmarijuanaparty.ca/)
Moderate Democratic Movement (http://www.notabc.com/)
Natural Law Party
None of the Above Party (http://www.notabc.com/)
Party Of Citizens Who Have Decided To Think For Themselves And Be Their Own Politicians (http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens/)
Patriot Party
People's Front
People of British Columbia Millionaires Party
Reform Party (http://www.reformbc.net/)
Renewal Party
Social Credit Party (http://www.bcsocialcredit.bc.ca/)
United Peoples Action Party
Unity Party (http://www.bcunity.ca/)
Western Canada Concept Party (http://www.westcan.org/)
Western Refederation Party (http://www.refedbc.com/)
Western Reform
Work Less Party (http://www.worklessparty.org/)
Your Political Party (http://www.yourpoliticalpartyofbc.com/)

[TimmyTabasco]

Also, by voting for the Liberals, I'm voting for the lesser of two evils

The NDP are by far the lesser of two evils

The Liberals are not the lesser, but the more so

[KB in Kelowna]

I'm puzzled. Looking through my viewmaster...eer...I mean binoculars....to the west across the mountains....

http://mixoftheweek.com/sidetalking/index_files/viewmaster_sidetalkin.jpg

...I see a plethora of parties to choose from.....

Registered British Columbia Political Parties
Allegiance Party (http://www.geocities.com/bcallegiance/website)
Alternative Party
Annexation Party (http://www.annexationbc.com/)
Bloc British Columbia Party
British Columbia Party (http://bc_party.tripod.com/)
British Columbia Youth Coalition
Canadian Alliance Party
Centre Democratic Party
Citizens Action Party (http://www.capbc.org/)
Citizens Alliance Now (http://www.bccitizensalliancenow.com/)
Citizens Commonwealth Federation
Communist Party
Confederation Party
Conservative Party (http://www.bcconservatives.ca/)
Democratic Futures Party
Emerged Democracy Party (http://www.vote-ed.com/)
Enterprise Party
Free Canadian Party (formerly Bald Eagle Party)
Freedom Party (http://www.thepunks.com/freedom.html)
Idealists Party
Labour Party
Link BC
Marijuana Party (http://www.bcmarijuanaparty.ca/)
Moderate Democratic Movement (http://www.notabc.com/)
Natural Law Party
None of the Above Party (http://www.notabc.com/)
Party Of Citizens Who Have Decided To Think For Themselves And Be Their Own Politicians (http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens/)
Patriot Party
People's Front
People of British Columbia Millionaires Party
Reform Party (http://www.reformbc.net/)
Renewal Party
Social Credit Party (http://www.bcsocialcredit.bc.ca/)
United Peoples Action Party
Unity Party (http://www.bcunity.ca/)
Western Canada Concept Party (http://www.westcan.org/)
Western Refederation Party (http://www.refedbc.com/)
Western Reform
Work Less Party (http://www.worklessparty.org/)
Your Political Party (http://www.yourpoliticalpartyofbc.com/)

What no Monster Raving Looney Party, No Silly Party, No Sensible Party? :confused:

[TimmyTabasco]

Tomorrow is the big day for BC

Sadly, I predict another win for Campbell and his corrupt Liberals

However, it will not be a massive majority..and I do think many will vote for change.

In my neighborhood we have Guy Genter(NDP), a former councillor of delta. He has done a lot for the community, and there are tons of signs on the lawns of supporters. He will get my vote, over John Hague(Green) who also has strong ideas..but I don't think would have the same pull in parliament.

I've said it before, and you all know how I feel about the Conservatives..I mean Liberals in diguise. Its a shame people in BC don't stand up, and make sure Campbell is outsted. Sure, the Liberals can be the majority..but he MUST go at all costs.

Glen Clark resigned after scandal, later proved innocent..Svend Robinson resigned after breaking the law, and Campbell must follow suit. I'm sorry for harping about this all the time, but it truly does make my blood boil that such a man is allowed to even be in power.

People who vote Liberal should take a look in the mirror, and speak to someone who has lost a family member to a drunk driver. :mad:

[Canucklehead]

Glen Clark resigned after scandal, later proved innocent..Svend Robinson resigned after breaking the law, and Campbell must follow suit. I'm sorry for harping about this all the time, but it truly does make my blood boil that such a man is allowed to even be in power.

People who vote Liberal should take a look in the mirror, and speak to someone who has lost a family member to a drunk driver. :mad:

I completely agree TT. Campbell never faced anywhere near the repercussions that Clark did. It's amazing how well a wreckless and highly dangerous felony can be downplayed if done by the right people.

[Canucklehead]

Campbell won again :mad: Can't say I'm suprised. Good showing by the NDP. Good spoiler playing by the greens :rolleyes:

Did anyone see Campbells speech? Was he even aware off the polling numbers? "British Columbians have shown they want to continue in this government...blah..blah!" No Gordo, they've shown they like you and your gov a helluva lot less then last time.

[Bob burns]

Most comical yet aggravating quote of the day:

"We're going to improve health care. We're going to improve education." - Gordon Campbell

[Canucklehead]

Most comical yet aggravating quote of the day:

"We're going to improve health care. We're going to improve education." - Gordon Campbell

At least he didn't throw "continue to" in there.

To me it's more aggravating then commical. When he says stuff like about education or healthcare I just can't stand it.

[Bob burns]

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[Bob burns]

Not my premier

http://mindprod.com/images/campbellmug.jpg

But considering how the NDP effed up so badly under the Clarke government, and had only two seats in the last election, it is amazing how much better they did in this election under a shaky rookie candidate in Carole James. Only one election after one of the biggest lying political parties in the provinces heistory, and they get 40% of the vote. Things will be bad for BC for another four years, but I think the NDP will rebound strong in the next election after the province wakes up and smells the lies and corruption that is Gordon Campbell and the cronies pulling his strings that allow him to talk.

[TimmyTabasco]

As a supporter of democracy, human rights, and socialism..I was very happy with the result for the NDP.

I didn't expect them to win this time around, but they have created a very healthy opposition.

Now Campbell will be in tough. How will he fare? Last 4 years there have been 2 NDP..now there are 33 seats for the NDP. Many think Campbell won't last the entire 4 years as leader, and I am one of them. He is a very unpopular man in BC, despite the fact his party won. Just look at his riding, he didn't win by much.

For my riding, I voted NDP, and the rep won the riding back to NDP hands. This is good, as he is someone I know will stand up for the area.

Good on BC for bringing back some form of democracy, even if the NDP didn't win..they have been reborn, and can now be a major thorn in campbells side..or lets say a nasty hangover :nod: :thumb:

[Canucklehead]

Now Campbell will be in tough. How will he fare? Last 4 years there have been 2 NDP..now there are 33 seats for the NDP. Many think Campbell won't last the entire 4 years as leader, and I am one of them. He is a very unpopular man in BC, despite the fact his party won. Just look at his riding, he didn't win by much.


I was laughing when I saw his numbers. He barely won and it's not like he was in a tough riding. He was running in rich person central.

[Bob burns]

The Liberal MLA in every single riding in the province lost ground in this election. Every single one. Things are changing for the better. Yes the uber-conservative won the election but there are good things that came out of it. I can't see this extremist government winning another election any time soon. I guess the only question is, as TT has pointed out, 'will Gordie last another four long years?'

[Asterix]

I, for one, am glad of the results. I won my election both in my area and province-wide. I'm also glad that the NDP has gained, making for more of an opposition at legislature.

I'm hoping that Campbell continues to straighten up the province's economy and budget, but it is my hope that the NDP will provide guidance as to where it is most needed. :coffee:

Now the BCTF will go on strike in September, which means no income from my wife at that time. :mad:

[leaferfan87]

Could someone tell me how many seats each party won?

[Canucklehead]

Now the BCTF will go on strike in September, which means no income from my wife at that time. :mad:

Ever consider why they are striking? There are reasons behind it. Eveyone has the right to strike if they are seeing their contracts ripped up and rights they are promised to them taken away. Maybe some of that blame should fall on Gordo and not the BCTF.

[Canucklehead]

Could someone tell me how many seats each party won?

Liberals 46
NDP 33

[Asterix]

Ever consider why they are striking? There are reasons behind it. Eveyone has the right to strike if they are seeing their contracts ripped up and rights they are promised to them taken away. Maybe some of that blame should fall on Gordo and not the BCTF.
I see that you chose to read only the last line of my post. I've been married to a teacher for 10 years, so I have a pretty good idea of what they're going through on a day to day basis. Read the rest of my post and you may find that I'm not putting all of the blame on the BCTF. I do however put the blame on them when they tell the teachers to be ready to strike in September BEFORE the elections, especially if the Liberals were to win. Where's the room for negotiation here, or am I missing something? :shrug: :o

[Canucklehead]

I see that you chose to read only the last line of my post. I've been married to a teacher for 10 years, so I have a pretty good idea of what they're going through on a day to day basis. Read the rest of my post and you may find that I'm not putting all of the blame on the BCTF. I do however put the blame on them when they tell the teachers to be ready to strike in September BEFORE the elections, especially if the Liberals were to win. Where's the room for negotiation here, or am I missing something? :shrug: :o

I did read your entire post, I just quoted the bottom part because I thought it was most relevant. I still did not see you put blame on Campbell. You said your glad Liberals won, but also glad the NDP had a strong showing. I don't want to make a big thing about this but it's just my opinion that the teachers have every right and reason to strike, and strike whenever they want. Even if they call it a bit prematurely. I understand it is tough on teachers, especially ones who do not favour the strike. If a BCTF strike does happen my household will be getting no money at all. But I don't feel this governement has left any room for negotiation. To me it seems like you have to be pretty loud for someone like Campbell to hear you.

[KB in Kelowna]

People have made a big deal of Carol James and the NDP. But aside from demonizing Campbell, what real policies did she put forward? The test for James will be if she can distance herself from being seen as a puppet of the the Public Sector Unions. If she can do that then perhps she can turn the NDP into a progressive social democratic party, but somehow I think she'll end up a pawn of the HEU/BCTF/BCGEU and that will persuade enough people to continue to support the BC Liberals. The Union connections of the NDP and thier reliance on the status quo are why I voted Green.

[Asterix]

To me it seems like you have to be pretty loud for someone like Campbell to hear you.
That's why I was saying that I'm glad that there will be a better NDP representation at legislature. They can speak up and make things more balanced.

But it was way premature for the union to call on the teachers that way. Campbell was very quick to pick on that and he played that card perfectly. It could very well have cost the NDP the elections.

[Canucklehead]

That's why I was saying that I'm glad that there will be a better NDP representation at legislature. They can speak up and make things more balanced.
Agree on that :thumb:

But it was way premature for the union to call on the teachers that way. Campbell was very quick to pick on that and he played that card perfectly. It could very well have cost the NDP the elections.

I agree it was premature. I guess I just don't see that as such a problem like you do.