Current Rangers Forwards.

[krypt1968]

Current rangers under contract i have listed rated 1 through 12 IMO. also added some hartford players under as well who will get a long look at in training camp. other then the jagr, straka, nylander line. how do the rest of you think the lines will pan out?

1) Jaromir Jagr
2) Brendan Shanahan
3) Michael Nylander
4) Petr Prucha
5) Martin Straka
6) Matt Cullen
7) Adam Hall
8 ) Jason Ward
9) Blair Betts
10) Marcel Hossa
11) Ryan Hollweg
12) Jed Ortmeyer

Hartford wolf pack Players who will fight for a job. maybe one can be this years Prucha. From what scouts have said about dawes is he has a great all around game and is very solid for his size.

Jarkko Immonen, Nigel Dawes, Lauri Korpikoski and brendan dubinsky

[Madferret]

Well they definitley have 2 very good scoring lines, that's for sure. Maybe even Top 5 in the NHL scoring lines, seeing how Shanny fits.
Like I said earlier I think the Rags are looking quite good for the 2007.
Krypter based on those players you mentioned what do you think your lines will look like this year?

[krypt1968]

jagr nylander straka
shanny prucha cullen
hall Immonen betts 3rd line with 40-50 goal output not so bad. immonen impressed me in the few games he was here. one of the players we got in the leetch deal.

4th line will be up for grabs with whats signed and the hartford kids i mentioned. jason ward will be part of the line he improved last season for the rangers beter then he had for montreal.

[Mel]

Current rangers under contract i have listed rated 1 through 12 IMO. also added some hartford players under as well who will get a long look at in training camp. other then the jagr, straka, nylander line. how do the rest of you think the lines will pan out?

1) Jaromir Jagr
2) Brendan Shanahan
3) Michael Nylander
4) Petr Prucha
5) Martin Straka
6) Matt Cullen
7) Adam Hall
8 ) Jason Ward
9) Blair Betts
10) Marcel Hossa
11) Ryan Hollweg
12) Jed Ortmeyer

Hartford wolf pack Players who will fight for a job. maybe one can be this years Prucha. From what scouts have said about dawes is he has a great all around game and is very solid for his size.

Jarkko Immonen, Nigel Dawes, Lauri Korpikoski and brendan dubinsky

I would switch Ortemeyer and Hossa. I'll be surprised (and annoyed) if Hossa is even a regular on the fourth line next year. I'd like to see Orts there all the time, and Hollweg whenever there's a spot open.

I'd like Hossa to go to Hartford and stay there.

I've also been thinking about Rucinsky, it wasn't long ago I was really hoping to get him back for next year... but then along came Shanahan. Martin who?

Not to mention he (Rucinsky) made over 3 mill last season IIRC. If he makes anywhere close to that next season I have to think he'll be doing it somewhere else. I'm not saying I don't want him back... I just can't imagine him getting the same dollars. The Rangers outlook has changed quite a bit to say the least, from the last time Rucinsky signed on for 3 plus.

I'm begining to think more and more that Rucinsky's salary will be used to go after Brian Leetch. Leetch (according to his agent) has made no decision yet on where / if he will play another season, last I heard. Tom Poti is gone, Sandis Ozolinsh cannot touch a puck in Madison Square Garden without the crowd completely losing their cool. If there's one hometown hero who can walk in and remedy all that it's Leetch.

I have said for a long time he'll never be back. But lately I'm starting to see it make more and more sense for all involved.

If Leetch does keep playing - I think he wants to be in more of a specialty (PP) role, and not the 28-30 minute workhorse he was as a young man. It's speculated that's why he was somewhat ineffective (and eventually injured) in Boston last year. He ain't getting any younger. If the Rangers are willing to allow him that, he is willing to take it a year at a time for less money. It would make sense for Leetch to go where he's a fan favorite, it would make sense for the Rangers, and the fans would love it.

It would cancel out Sandish Ozolinsh basically. I think it's gonna happen.

How much room do they have as of right now anyway? Where can I find out?

[krypt1968]

Hossa has a much more upside of potential to be a scorer then Orts.

Hossa had 105 shots 10 goals in 64 games. sure many of us want him to be like his brother but thats not gona happen. hossa is biger also about 6'3 215. 3 years younger.

Between the 2 of them its easy to say they both play a different game. orts stronger on the defensive end ill give him that. Hossa's game is more offensive.

Im going on my gut feeling here hossa is gona be a late bloomer.

OK now onto the rucinsky topic. when he was playing last season he was a plus to the team but he was injured some and that hurt us down the stretch not having the depth to replace him yes not only him but he was just part of it. but for 3 mill let him go sign somplace else.

As for leetch there playing the waiting game on him as rozsival is RFA who wants big money also the only problem is no team will give him the money knowing they will have to give the rangers somthing back. thats where the waiting game comes to play. there eithier gona sign rozsival cheap when he crumbles or go for leetch. rozsival made a big mistake not accepting the arbitration. its gona take 1.5 to 2 mill to get one of them.

As for the rangers cap were it stands without ozolinsh would be at 36.5 mill. and if you add weekes savings if he is headed to detroit take another 2 mill off. the rangers are ok with cap space.

[Mel]

Hossa has a much more upside of potential to be a scorer then Orts.

Hossa had 105 shots 10 goals in 64 games. sure many of us want him to be like his brother but thats not gona happen. hossa is biger also about 6'3 215. 3 years younger.

Hossa has tons of potential to be everything that Ortemeyer will never be. But it just doens't seem to materialize no matter what... if he is a late bloomer like you say, I'll eat my words. He does have size but he just for whatever reason never seems to respond when called out by his coaches.

Between the 2 of them its easy to say they both play a different game. orts stronger on the defensive end ill give him that. Hossa's game is more offensive.

Im going on my gut feeling here hossa is gona be a late bloomer.

Orts plays his heart out, and he's one of the better PK's on the roster. There's something to be said for that. We agree there that Hossa doesn't offer what Orts does in penalty killing or defense. Ortemeyer was key piece to the puzzle of why the Rangers had such a surprising GAA last year. There were a lot of pieces but he was right in the middle of it - can't say that for Hossa. And if all Hossa has to offer is scoring, do the Rangers really need that from a (at best) 3rd liner? Most likely 4th.

I just don't have patience for guys that *should* do so-and-so in theory but they don't. But again, I'll eat my words if he blooms late. In the mean time, I'll take a blue collar guy like Ortemeyer killing penalties and leave the scoring to the guys who score a lot.


OK now onto the rucinsky topic. when he was playing last season he was a plus to the team but he was injured some and that hurt us down the stretch not having the depth to replace him yes not only him but he was just part of it.

i agree, his injury was perhaps the biggest blow the the Rangers late season troubles. Many blamed the olympics, but that was overblown (the only real concern was Lundqvist), they really missed Rucinsky. It showed.

but for 3 mill let him go sign somplace else.

:thumb: :)

As for leetch there playing the waiting game on him as rozsival is RFA who wants big money also the only problem is no team will give him the money knowing they will have to give the rangers somthing back. thats where the waiting game comes to play. there eithier gona sign rozsival cheap when he crumbles or go for leetch. rozsival made a big mistake not accepting the arbitration. its gona take 1.5 to 2 mill to get one of them.

As for the rangers cap were it stands without ozolinsh would be at 36.5 mill. and if you add weekes savings if he is headed to detroit take another 2 mill off. the rangers are ok with cap space.

That's a good assessment, I would just say there is no waiting game with Leetch, to the best of my knowledge his agent has not spoken to the Rangers this summer and he still doesn't know if he wants to play another year.

I think he does and I think the Rangers would be happy to take him back at this point (for a modest salary). Rosival had a nice season last year but who would you rather have running the power play? him or Leetch.

With Leetch on the point, Jagr in the corner, Shanny in front, the other guys we've mentioned... it would be absolutely deadly. LETHAL!

[Mel]

Rucinsky did indeed go some place else... back to St. Louis.

Terms not disclosed.

[KB in Kelowna]

Rucinsky did indeed go some place else... back to St. Louis.

Terms not disclosed.

But Marty's best hockey is when he lines up with his fellow Cechz. He has been a streaky player as of late, last year was a good season on Broadway but I am not sure how he will fare in St. Louis.

[charlio lemieux]

But Marty's best hockey is when he lines up with his fellow Cechz. He has been a streaky player as of late, last year was a good season on Broadway but I am not sure how he will fare in St. Louis.

I read somewhere he might be playing with one of his countrymen in Petr Cajanek. (sp)

[krypt1968]

Im not at all upset with the departure of rucinsky he wanted a 3.5 mill contract im glad sather is using his smarts. i would rather see the likes of Dawes and immonen earn the right to make the team and not have to overpay in the process. not to mention renney has a way to get the kids to hustle alot more. with the exception of prucha last season we got to see firsthand some of our defensive forward prospects and they did fine. with that said im hoping for the same kind of results now for the likes of dawes and immonen only in a way more offensive style of play.

[KB in Kelowna]

Im not at all upset with the departure of rucinsky he wanted a 3.5 mill contract im glad sather is using his smarts. i would rather see the likes of Dawes and immonen earn the right to make the team and not have to overpay in the process. not to mention renney has a way to get the kids to hustle alot more. with the exception of prucha last season we got to see firsthand some of our defensive forward prospects and they did fine. with that said im hoping for the same kind of results now for the likes of dawes and immonen only in a way more offensive style of play.

I always liked watching Nigel Dawes as a junior, he played for the Kootenay Ice in the Western Hockey League. The knock on him was size but in the NHL talent and speed are allowed to flourish. Good Luck to him if he sticks on Braodway.

[krypt1968]

I always liked watching Nigel Dawes as a junior, he played for the Kootenay Ice in the Western Hockey League. The knock on him was size but in the NHL talent and speed are allowed to flourish. Good Luck to him if he sticks on Braodway.

The reports i herd about him is that he excells at both ends of the ice and he plays a much bigger game then his size shows. i cant say i have had the pleaure see him play enough to make a fair judgment on him but looking at the stats he has put up on every team he has played for do look pretty impresive. i hope it continues into his nhl career hopefully with the rangers.

[Madferret]

Hey NY boys how is the Rags' cap situation looking?
I ask because I could see Sather going after Tanabe..

[krypt1968]

Hey NY boys how is the Rags' cap situation looking?
I ask because I could see Sather going after Tanabe..

were still under the cap some. we could add him and still be under a decent amount. not saying i want him but just to answer your question there at 39.8 million without ozolinsh's contract and he wont be back till december if at all and he can be sent down to the minors and his contract wont be hit against the cap. its safe to say his 2.75 mill wont be a factor against us.

[Madferret]

were still under the cap some. we could add him and still be under a decent amount. not saying i want him but just to answer your question there at 39.8 million without ozolinsh's contract and he wont be back till december if at all and he can be sent down to the minors and his contract wont be hit against the cap. its safe to say his 2.75 mill wont be a factor against us.

Tanabe for around 1 M is a pretty good deal...could take care of the Ozolinsh situation.
What's the Rags projected blueline for next season looking like? I know the Rags needed help back there last year, but I also know Sather shored it up some in the offseason...

[krypt1968]

Tanabe for around 1 M is a pretty good deal...could take care of the Ozolinsh situation.
What's the Rags projected blueline for next season looking like? I know the Rags needed help back there last year, but I also know Sather shored it up some in the offseason...

well the underachieving Poti is finnally gone so thats a big plus. they brought back the highly regarded within the rangers organazation Karel Rachunek from europe. they added a solid defensman who can block shots crazy in Aaron Ward (will help out the goalies big time here) and look for marc staal to make a name in training camp. all in all there defense looks to me alot beter then the 2005-06 club. tanabe for 1 mill could be a good deal but the rangers are pretty set on the defensive note for now. and they have some very bright prospects in the development stages were there gona be one of the strong clubs in the defensive dept of the future here.

Not to mention a tandem of lundqvist and Montoya could also cause havoc for alot of clubs.

[prucha_for_mvp]

Current rangers under contract i have listed rated 1 through 12 IMO. also added some hartford players under as well who will get a long look at in training camp. other then the jagr, straka, nylander line. how do the rest of you think the lines will pan out?

1) Jaromir Jagr
2) Brendan Shanahan
3) Michael Nylander
4) Petr Prucha
5) Martin Straka
6) Matt Cullen
7) Adam Hall
8 ) Jason Ward
9) Blair Betts
10) Marcel Hossa
11) Ryan Hollweg
12) Jed Ortmeyer

Hartford wolf pack Players who will fight for a job. maybe one can be this years Prucha. From what scouts have said about dawes is he has a great all around game and is very solid for his size.

Jarkko Immonen, Nigel Dawes, Lauri Korpikoski and brendan dubinsky

prucha is the best man.

[krypt1968]

prucha is the best man.

hey prucha is that cause he is your idol?

are you going to do a trivia thread here also?