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charlio lemieux
3-09-06, 5:01 PM
Which team made the most improvement at the deadline?
Edmonton.
Include the Spacek and Tarnstrom deals and it's not even close.
Newfie John
3-09-06, 5:04 PM
Leafs, obviously.
swflyers25
3-09-06, 5:05 PM
Ask again after the playoffs are over.
charlio lemieux
3-09-06, 5:07 PM
I'm going Edmonton. They have made themselves into a top contender.
If Rolly gets hot there could be hockey in June in Edmonton. There will still be snow right? :D
Max Power
3-09-06, 5:07 PM
Oilers
I think Edmonton did exactly what it needed to do. They got goaltending and they got scoring
We'll see how Roloson works out but otherwise it looks good so far.
I like what Ottawa did but who knows how Arneson will do in the capital
bluemeanie
3-09-06, 5:13 PM
I like what Ottawa did but who knows how Arneson will do in the capital
Yeah... Capital of Loserville.
...wait a sec.. Doh!
Edmonton wins this one, but I like what Carolina did as well.
Ask again after the playoffs are over.
You hit the nail on the head, 100%, no questions asked. This day is all about getting the roster you want for the big playoff push.
I'd go with Edmonton today though.
Darsehole Tucker
3-09-06, 9:30 PM
Agreed with the consensus. Edmonton won the day...I don't know if that means they win anything else though.
TimmyTabasco
3-09-06, 10:44 PM
Edmonton
However, Vancouver didn't do too bad either
-Carney..solid workhorse shutdown man..something we have lacked
-Weinrich..solid 5th/6th defenseman..veteran leadership
-Noronen..young goalie with lots of potential..chance to prove himself
-Brown..better than who we had playing
The defense gets back
Jovo-carney
Ohlund-salo
weinrich-allen
baumgarter
brown
Thats a deep defense..
Good job Nonis
KB in Kelowna
3-09-06, 11:00 PM
Edmonchuck, an upgrade in goal and a proven sniper, honourable mention to Vancouver, but I am biased.:nod:Muckler has also added depth to the Sens.
Vancouver and Edmonton made excellent moves but the one I like best is Recchi to Carolina as I think this will get them to the Stanley Cup Final.Add the addition of Doug Weight earlier and this team improved alot.Just wait until they get Cole and Vasicek back!
If looking for losers I'm shocked at the Calgary Flames doing basically nothing!
Cheers
Jovo-Carney
Ohlund-Salo
Weinrich-Allen
Baumgartner
Brown
Thats a deep defense...
Ha, I got your deep defense right here...
White-Rafalski
Matvichuk-Martin
Lukowich-Klee
Albelin
Hale
:D
Seriously though, I like the moves the Oilers made, although I'm still not sold on Roloson being what they needed. Samsonov makes them better offensively, and Roloson is at least an upgrade over Conkannen. I still don't consider them a top Cup contender, but they're definitely a more dangerous playoff team.
Max Power
3-10-06, 9:30 AM
However, Vancouver didn't do too bad either
-Carney..solid workhorse shutdown man..something we have lacked
-Weinrich..solid 5th/6th defenseman..veteran leadership
-Noronen..young goalie with lots of potential..chance to prove himself
-Brown..better than who we had playing
The defense gets back
Jovo-carney
Ohlund-salo
weinrich-allen
baumgarter
brown
Thats a deep defense..
Good job Nonis
Very true
This could be big come the playoffs for the Nucks and you got to tip your hat a Nonis for addressing some big issues while not giving much away. Goaltending will still be a big ? but I like how Vancouver came out of this
TimmyTabasco
3-10-06, 3:48 PM
Very true
This could be big come the playoffs for the Nucks and you got to tip your hat a Nonis for addressing some big issues while not giving much away. Goaltending will still be a big ? but I like how Vancouver came out of this
Once the injured players come back, it will be the teams deepest defense in quite sometime.
So yeah, I really like the deals he got done.
Noronen is a question mark, and I would have preferred Toskala. BUT, he does have potential..and could turn into a solid starter
TimmyTabasco
3-10-06, 3:49 PM
Ha, I got your deep defense right here...
White-Rafalski
Matvichuk-Martin
Lukowich-Klee
Albelin
Hale
:D
I guess both of us lost out on the Mitchell sweepstakes :D
Glad to see Friesen didn't end up in NJ ;)
Madferret
3-10-06, 4:10 PM
Big ups to Lowe & Nonis for the jobs they did yesterday.
leaferfan87
3-10-06, 4:21 PM
It is most certainly Edmonton. They got a real offensive threat in Samsonov, something that will definitely help and their bona fide goalie in Roloson, it's definitely an upgrade over Conklin.
Glad to see Friesen didn't end up in NJ ;)
That makes two of us.:laughing:
I also like what the Canucks did at the deadline. They may not have gotten a true #1 in Noronen, but they got a guy with starter potential to back up Auld, who has played better than I thought he would this season. Considering that they didn't give up all that much, and got two very solid defensemen in Carney and Weinrich, plus a decent depth addition in Brown, I'd say it was a pretty good deadline for Vancouver.
I still don't know if Vancouver has what it takes to go deep in the playoffs, but I like their chances better now than I did a week ago.
I still don't know if Vancouver has what it takes to go deep in the playoffs, but I like their chances better now than I did a week ago.
With the defence now bolstered up they have a really good chance of making some noise in the playoffs.But it all depends on Nazz-Mo-Bert and whether they can get their act together.If they find their way again then there's no reason why they can't make it deep in the playoffs,even the Finals.
Cheers
KB in Kelowna
3-12-06, 6:25 PM
Would it be impolite to point out that the two teams getting the most "props" for thier trade deadline wheeling and dealing, the Oil and the Nuks are 0-3-1 in theier games since the deadline :curse:
Would it be impolite to point out that the two teams getting the most "props" for thier trade deadline wheeling and dealing, the Oil and the Nuks are 0-3-1 in theier games since the deadline :curse:
Pretty logical really, the most changes.. they need time to gel as teams.
Pretty logical really, the most changes...they need time to gel as teams.
Yes, but blowing a third period lead two games in a row? From what I've seen the Oilers have looked like a complete mess on the ice since making their moves. It may be a case of "gelling", but I'd still be worried if I was an Oilers fan.
Hopefully they can turn it around, or Lowe will end up looking rather foolish...
Yes, but blowing a third period lead two games in a row? From what I've seen the Oilers have looked like a complete mess on the ice since making their moves. It may be a case of "gelling", but I'd still be worried if I was an Oilers fan.
Hopefully they can turn it around, or Lowe will end up looking rather foolish...
Ditto. And Roloson doesn't really count as a player you need to "gel" with. Or he shouldn't anyway. Maybe they're trying to get used to a new system now with a better goalie in place, but wasn't the plan just to play the exact same way with Rollie taking care of the softies?
Anyway, Edmonton is now out of a playoffs sport, has blown some leads, and Roloson though looking better than Conks and company hasn't impressed me one bit. There's cause for concern out West, getting but 2 wins from their last 10 games.
There's no need to panic yet, but as said just above definatly concern. If things don't change soon it'll be another year with no hockey in Edmonton come spring. Anaheim leap-frogged them for that final 8th place last night and has 2 games in hand. And if San Jose wins their 3 games in hand that'll push the Oil to 10th.
Max Power
3-13-06, 12:21 PM
Most of us have thought that Roloson is and was a gamble... One that would hopefully pay off. I hope he picks it up but he sure has not looked that good in his first two.
Honestly, there's been atleast one goal every game that has been exactly the "Gelling problem" whether it's been a defenseman screening him, a defenseman running into him or whatever.. there are definite communication problems, and the guy has looked rusty.
Give him a few more, his track record is that he's a solid goalie, give him a few games to turn it around and get familiar.
Hard to say that, as we don't really have points to give away, but those are the breaks.
Give him a few more, his track record is that he's a solid goalie, give him a few games to turn it around and get familiar.
See, this is one thing that I've never really understood. Roloson has had 2 really good seasons, and one decent one in his career, while splitting time with Manny Fernandez. He's only played 50 games in a season once in his career, and that was during the Wild's surprise run of 2002-2003 when they went all the way to the Western Conference Finals.
People are saying that Roloson is the goaltender to push them over the top, but his playoff record doesn't indicate it to me. During the 02-03 playoffs, Roloson was 5-6, with a 2.59 GAA, and .903 Save %. By comparison, Fernandez was 3-4, with a 1.96 GAA, and .929 Save %.
Roloson's stats don't indicate to me that he's a legitimate #1 goaltender, which is what the Oilers really needed. Granted, they probably would have had to give up quite a bit to get a true #1, and the goaltending they had before was pretty bad, but I really don't think Roloson is that huge of an upgrade over Conklin/Markannen/Morrison.
For the Oilers' sake, I hope he proves me wrong, but I don't think he will...
LiAmTrAnSdEmOn
3-14-06, 3:22 AM
Well, MD. He played on a trap team, and you know how great that makes goalies look.:D
Well, MD. He played on a trap team, and you know how great that makes goalies look.:D
Quiet you. Could be worse, they could have Robert "Rebound" Esche and Antero Niityidontknowhowthehelltospellitmaki.:wicked: :D
swflyers25
3-14-06, 11:17 AM
Quiet you. Could be worse, they could have Robert "Rebound" Esche and Antero Niityidontknowhowthehelltospellitmaki.:wicked: :D
Hey, knock Rebound Rob all you want, Niittymaki is much better than him and you know it. :curse:
Hey, knock Rebound Rob all you want, Niittymaki is much better than him and you know it. :curse:
I was just messing with Liam.;)
I do think Niittymaki is the best goaltender they've had in a long time though.
Of course, I still hope he falls apart in the playoffs...:D
KB in Kelowna
3-14-06, 6:48 PM
I was just messing with Liam.;)
I do think Niittymaki is the best goaltender they've had in a long time though.
Of course, I still hope he falls apart in the playoffs...:D
You dared question the Orange and Black :eek: the Horror the Horror ;)
I see everybody has jumped on the Oilers bandwagon, so far short term it has not really looked very good.
As always I will reserve my judgement a couple of more weeks to see where things pan out.
Max Power
3-15-06, 9:46 AM
I see everybody has jumped on the Oilers bandwagon, so far short term it has not really looked very good.
As always I will reserve my judgement a couple of more weeks to see where things pan out.
I think most people will agree that the Oilers did what they needed to do but the only way this will actually make them winners in the deadline is if Roloson can be that #1 guy. Either way whoever makes that 8th spot in the west will still need to go through Detroit so Edmonton's odds of being the winner on the deadline are against them.
Big game for Roloson last night? Hopefully he can keep it up and Edmonton can move up a few spots. Tough road to the playoffs
Figured I'd give this thread some life again ;).
Oilers record since the the TD: 6-4-3 (
Roloson: 2.65 GAA and a .899 SV%
All we've asked for all year is a goalie who can put up a .900 SV%. Given how rough his first few games were, I tihnk it's safe to say we found that :]
Samsonov: 13 GP 5 G 10 A
Yeah, he fits like a glove :nod:
TimmyTabasco
4-05-06, 12:46 PM
Figured I'd give this thread some life again ;).
Oilers record since the the TD: 6-4-3 (
Roloson: 2.65 GAA and a .899 SV%
All we've asked for all year is a goalie who can put up a .900 SV%. Given how rough his first few games were, I tihnk it's safe to say we found that :]
Samsonov: 13 GP 5 G 10 A
Yeah, he fits like a glove :nod:
Roloson seems to be very hot and cold
However, Samsonov is a steal. Lowe should resign him
Roloson seems to be very hot and cold
However, Samsonov is a steal. Lowe should resign him
Would sure love that, but Lowe's in real tough with contracts next year. A lot of guys to resign. Should be interesting to see how it all pans out.
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