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KB in Kelowna
2-15-06, 6:42 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/olympics/sports/icehockey/stories/index.shtml?/story/olympics/national/2006/02/15/Sports/bertuzzi060215.html
I wonder about the timing, but it does generate publicity, and I wonder about the venue, as a similar case was thrown out in Denver and the judge there said that BC was a better venue for this as the assault took place in Vancouver. All due respect but $15 million for lost wages? However as a Canuck fan I may be biased.
KB in Kelowna
2-15-06, 7:15 PM
Actually on the timing, I guess it takes the heat of Gretzky and operation slapshot.:laughing:
The Insider
2-15-06, 11:05 PM
Here's the thing, I respect what Steve Moore is fighting for and he is right to try to get some kind of monitary settlement(regardless of how much) to make up for his career basically being over. I mean as much as we discuss it, and regardless of our feeling towards either party, let's face it, until you're in this situation you really have idea what you would do. But my main concern is the timing, I mean I know what Moore and his lawyers are trying to do, but from a public standpoint I do question whether or not this was the right time to drop this lawsuit on Bertuzzi, just because out of the last 354 days, he picks the very first game of the olympics where everyone in Canada is getting around the team and just bringing it up now, it just seems...I can't think of the word, but I think you know what I mean.
Here's the thing, I respect what Steve Moore is fighting for and he is right to try to get some kind of monitary settlement(regardless of how much) to make up for his career basically being over. I mean as much as we discuss it, and regardless of our feeling towards either party, let's face it, until you're in this situation you really have idea what you would do. But my main concern is the timing, I mean I know what Moore and his lawyers are trying to do, but from a public standpoint I do question whether or not this was the right time to drop this lawsuit on Bertuzzi, just because out of the last 354 days, he picks the very first game of the olympics where everyone in Canada is getting around the team and just bringing it up now, it just seems...I can't think of the word, but I think you know what I mean.Well all I can say about the timing is, why should he care. Its quite apparent around hockey circles that not many give a damn about him.
So go for it, balls to the wall.
Canadian26
2-16-06, 1:43 AM
I dont really know what to think of this sisutation. If it didnt take place inside the hockey rink, Im sure we woulda seen a suit filed much quicker. But, I dont know how I feel about things being taken out of the rink and into the legal system... Moores lawyers also said the following in regard to timing.
Moore's lawyer, Tim Danson, denied there's any connection between the timing of the lawsuit and the Games.
Danson told CP the case was filed Tuesday in Toronto, one day before a two-year limitation on the filing of a lawsuit was set to expire.
"There's nothing to the timing other than the fact that there's a limitation period," said Danson, who would not comment directly on the lawsuit.
Danson said he would have preferred if the lawsuit had not been reported in the media.
"If we had our druthers, it wouldn't even be news -- it would have been issued and no one would know about it until some time down the road. But that didn't work out for us," he said.
Danson declined comment when asked about Moore's condition.
leaferfan87
2-16-06, 10:56 AM
I've lost most sympathy I once had for Steve Moore. Any other time he filed this suit I might not care, but on the first day of the Olympics after a game where Bert seemed to be playing well...
I see what Amo is saying, but Team Canada does not need any more distractions right now.
I've lost most sympathy I once had for Steve Moore. Any other time he filed this suit I might not care, but on the first day of the Olympics after a game where Bert seemed to be playing well...
I see what Amo is saying, but Team Canada does not need any more distractions right now.
Don't blame Steve Moore,blame the idiot who leaked this to the media.It was the last day for Moore to file this lawsuit and he did just that!It wasn't supposed to get any attention but when it leaked to the media there was nothing stopping this story.
Good thing about this is that it will finally be settled and then we can all move on and put this whole mess into the past!
Cheers
charlio lemieux
2-17-06, 2:32 AM
$15million, plus 3 more plus 1.5 for his parents?
Stevie, what ever you're smokin', it's too strong. Time to cut back.
First off his parents can take a flying leap. What a precedent that would set!
Second he's a turd for his timing. His old suit was tossed in October he had lots of time to file a new suit.
Third, this had better be just be an opening offer in a negotiation. If he seriously thinks he deserves that much money he's been on pain killers too long.
$15million, plus 3 more plus 1.5 for his parents?
Stevie, what ever you're smokin', it's too strong. Time to cut back.
First off his parents can take a flying leap. What a precedent that would set!
Second he's a turd for his timing. His old suit was tossed in October he had lots of time to file a new suit.
Third, this had better be just be an opening offer in a negotiation. If he seriously thinks he deserves that much money he's been on pain killers too long.I agree with the part about his parents, they can take a flying leap. This is between Bertuzzi and Moore, and like the man says, aim high and settle in the middle. As far as the timing goes, why should Moore give a rats ass what anyone thinks? Not many in the hockey world gives a crap about him, his old team signed the guy that was calling for his and others on the teams heads, so why should he care about them or anyone on the Olympic team? What he is supposed to put Flag and Country over his and his familys financial future? Please, would you, would anyone? By design or not, the timing is perfect.
Max Power
2-17-06, 9:13 AM
Don't blame Steve Moore,blame the idiot who leaked this to the media.It was the last day for Moore to file this lawsuit and he did just that!It wasn't supposed to get any attention but when it leaked to the media there was nothing stopping this story.
Good thing about this is that it will finally be settled and then we can all move on and put this whole mess into the past!
Cheers
That's the thing
But I do wonder if they waited to the last minute for this reason. Purely assumption but a possibility considering the past.
As some have said I've lost respect for him. Mostly for the manner he's handled this situation. He removed the title of poor victim by being petty and attempting to profit in any possible way.
butterfly_style
2-17-06, 11:44 AM
Take this for what you will, because it came form a lawyers mouth.
I heard Tim Danson being interviewed on "the Team" two days ago.
In regard to the timing of this lawsuit, Tim said " Steve Moore does NOT want to litigate, he wants to play hockey. Thus he was waiting for as long as possible before filing this suit . . .perhaps the doctors would give him the OK.
That being said, he can not wait too long because the limitation runs out"
This actually is the pattern with Steve Moore, he waited until the final day to file suit in Colorado . . .and now in Ontario.
Danson went on to say that if Steve Moore can resume his hockey career, this lawsuit would look vastly different.
If that's all true, then I have a great deal of respect for Steve Moore.
I agree with my fellow posters about the parents . . .flying leap thing.
As for the amount of the lawsuit . . .probably a little high.
Is he correct to file a suit against Bertuzzi . . . .ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!
It was the last day for Moore to file this lawsuit and he did just that!No it wasn't. There's a two year statute of limitations on filing a lawsuit and I know for a fact that it wasn't February 15, 2004 when Todd Bertuzzi hit Steve Moore (it was in March '04). So that means the spineless bastard deliberately chose the first day of men's Olympic ice hockey in a purposeful attempt to take away the spotlight from Team Canada and distract Bertuzzi. Well here's a message for the rat: It didn't work!
:burning:
KB in Kelowna
2-17-06, 12:26 PM
The Moore - Naslund thing was Feb 16 2004 in Denver, the Bertuzzi - Moore sucker punch was March 08 2004 in Vancouver, can somebody cite how, legally, Moore had to file in ONTARIO by Feb 16 2006?
The Moore - Naslund thing was Feb 16 2004 in Denver, the Bertuzzi - Moore sucker punch was March 08 2004 in Vancouver, can somebody cite how, legally, Moore had to file in ONTARIO by Feb 16 2006?
The timing of the lawsuit has been questioned and it was speculated that Moore and his lawyer, Tim Danson, filed the statement to directly coincide with Bertuzzi playing in the Olympics. Danson has argued that the assault actually started after the game Feb. 16 when Bertuzzi and other Canucks threatened revenge against Moore and that the claim had to be filed within a two-year statute of limitations period.
That reasoning was met with mixed reviews from legal experts.
"You think about a breach of contract case," said Dr. Stephen Pitel, an assistant law professor at the University of Western Ontario. "The time starts running from the time the contract is breached. But that contract got negotiated, it got formed, it got signed. That's not the time the limitation period starts, even though all of that is clearly going to be relevant evidence at trial. (Moore) is not alleging that some tortious act happened on Feb. 16, he's alleging the tortious act happened March 8."
"(Danson) didn't have to plead it that way, with all due respect," said civil litigation lawyer Leslie Dizgun, a former adjunct professor of civil procedures at the Osgoode Hall Law School. "I think he could have pled an assault that occurred in March or a duty of care that existed and the negligence didn't occur until March. I think it's arguable."
Another civil litigator said it is possible to argue that Feb. 16 is an appropriate date for the statute of limitations to expire, but even that could be a stretch.
"Assault and battery are often used together, but they are distinct," said Tony Wong, a civil litigation lawyer at Blake, Cassels and Graydon. "Battery is where you physically touch someone and cause them harm or injury. Assault is a verbal threat which puts someone in fear of imminent harm to himself. Those statements form the basis of claim for assault. I guess the question is: What's the harm from the assault? The harm that Moore is complaining about is really the hit from behind. What did those threats do to harm him?"
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Render&c=Article&cid=1140130214144&call_pageid=968332188492
So it is at least possible (although not likely) that Bertuzzi's camp could have the case thrown out on statute of limitations. It sounds to me like the Moore camp took the prudent course by legally eliminating that possibility.
None of the legal "experts" questioned above could say with certainty that this could have been put off to March. They are speculating, they don't know. And Moore's future is not in their hands, it's in his own legal teams hands. Furthermore, if it is at all in Danson's strategy to include prior threats as part of the overall damages, then he did the right thing by filing now. It's a no-brainer if you think about it logically.
I doubt the Olympics has anything to do with it. If this weren't an Olympic year nobody would give second thought to the timing of this.
Gretzky's mug has been all over the front page of the New York tabloids all this past week. That's a far bigger distraction than Moore filing legal papers if you ask me. Yet nobody seems to be questioning the timing of the New Jersey Authorities going public with the case. This is making a mountain out of a mole hill IMHO.
charlio lemieux
2-17-06, 6:06 PM
So it is at least possible (although not likely) that Bertuzzi's camp could have the case thrown out on statute of limitations. It sounds to me like the Moore camp took the prudent course by legally eliminating that possibility.
None of the legal "experts" questioned above could say with certainty that this could have been put off to March. They are speculating, they don't know. And Moore's future is not in their hands, it's in his own legal teams hands. Furthermore, if it is at all in Danson's strategy to include prior threats as part of the overall damages, then he did the right thing by filing now. It's a no-brainer if you think about it logically.
Doesn't change the fact he has had since October, when his first case was thrown out in Denver, to get his act together to file the lawsuit. Why wait? Moore, his parents and his lawyer are a bunch of $%@^$^ &@%#*#%$ greedy %^$#@%*&.
This BS about wanting to play hockey and waiting until the last possible moment incase a doctor cleared him to play is crap. If that was true why file in Denver at all? Why not just wait the full 24 months and then file in Ontario?
Greed is the answer. Greed and revenge. He knew he could get more money in Colorado. Now he is suing for $18million, plus his greedy parents want $1.5 million. That is way more than his carreer was worth. He does deserve compensation, but if he turns down an offer of anything over $6million, then I hope he gets nothing.
Doesn't change the fact he has had since October, when his first case was thrown out in Denver, to get his act together to file the lawsuit. Why wait? Moore, his parents and his lawyer are a bunch of $%@^$^ &@%#*#%$ greedy %^$#@%*&.
This BS about wanting to play hockey and waiting until the last possible moment incase a doctor cleared him to play is crap. If that was true why file in Denver at all? Why not just wait the full 24 months and then file in Ontario?
Greed is the answer. Greed and revenge. He knew he could get more money in Colorado. Now he is suing for $18million, plus his greedy parents want $1.5 million. That is way more than his carreer was worth. He does deserve compensation, but if he turns down an offer of anything over $6million, then I hope he gets nothing.
I'm not passing judgement on Moore's motives, his greed, or what he deserves, or does not deserve. I don't really care all that much if he gets a nickel to be honest. But the statute of limitations is the focal point of this "controversy". Many are claiming (with no foundation) that the statute of limitations extends into March. That is nothing but speculation.
The truth is that if Danson plans to cite threats prior to the incident in his case... that leaves open the loop hole that Bert's camp could turn around and say they filed too late. It's just business, and it goes on every day. It would be negligent of Danson in his clients best interest, to risk such a scenario. Lawyers do not leave obvious, gaping loop holes open if it's within their power eliminate them.
As to why he didn't file earlier, that's not his obligation. His only obligation is to meet the deadline, and act in his clients best interest. He may have needed as much time as possible to assemble the case, who knows? Who cares? That's not his problem that the Olympics came up. And under no circumstances do you risk your client's case just because The Canadian hockey team happens to be playing an Olympic Tournament on your file date. Tough cookies. In real life, some things are just more important that sports.
I am not buying this conspiracy theory that Moore and his lawyer are out to sabotage the Canadian Olympic team by distracting Bertuzzi. Quite frankly I think it's nonsense.
charlio lemieux
2-17-06, 7:25 PM
His excuse for waiting until the last minute was, because he wants clearance to play hockey and not have to sue. If that was true he would have never filed suit in Denver.
I don't think it is a conspiracy theory to damage the entire Canadian Hockey Team, but I do think Moore is taking pleasure in sticking it to Bertuzzi when the spotlight of the entire world is able to focus on him.
The Bottom line is he could have filed at anytime, before the Olympics. Feb 10th would have been just as good as waiting until the Hockey team had arrived in Turin for the Olympics.
Since at the top of this post, I put forth the notion Moore is a liar, I can't believe him when he says timing had nothing to do with it.
I don't think it is a conspiracy theory to damage the entire Canadian Hockey Team, but I do think Moore is taking pleasure in sticking it to Bertuzzi when the spotlight of the entire world is able to focus on him.I'd take pleasure if I was Moore, I mean Bertuzzi lost some salary, and some games. And its not like that lost salary goes into Moores pocket, it will actually in some form end right back in Bertuzzi's pocket in a pension cheque. Moore won't qualify for that as he won't ever reach the games played to do so. Since the last season ended, Moore hasn't been paid one red cent, and all we've seen is how its great that Bert is back, and he's learned his lesson, and all is haunky doory. It is very possible if Bertuzzi doesn't Pearl Harbour Moore, he signs a league min and is earning a living and non of this exists today. I for one hope that Bertizzi is feeling a little uncomfortable, he does after all deserve to.
I'd take pleasure if I was Moore, I mean Bertuzzi lost some salary, and some games. And its not like that lost salary goes into Moores pocket, it will actually in some form end right back in Bertuzzi's pocket in a pension cheque. Moore won't qualify for that as he won't ever reach the games played to do so. Since the last season ended, Moore hasn't been paid one red cent, and all we've seen is how its great that Bert is back, and he's learned his lesson, and all is haunky doory. It is very possible if Bertuzzi doesn't Pearl Harbour Moore, he signs a league min and is earning a living and non of this exists today. I for one hope that Bertizzi is feeling a little uncomfortable, he does after all deserve to.
ALL HAIL AMOROQ!!!:D
I could give a rats behind about what Bertuzzi is feeling,he did the crime so he should do the time and pay!Its sad to see people just lambaste Moore for being greedy and being a coward and getting what he deserves while Bertuzzi has done way worse but now Berts the victim!While people scoffed at the idea of Moore blaming the Canucks saying it was a conspiracy to hurt him now its the same people saying Moore is conspiring to hurt poor little Berts feelings at the Olympics,isn't that being hypocritical? Perhaps if Bertuzzi WOULD have learned from his past mistakes none of this would be happening but Bert didn't and thats the saddest part of this whole ordeal.Maybe,just maybe after Bert pays out some big money he'll have learned his lesson,but I'm not holding my breath!
CHeers
charlio lemieux
2-18-06, 8:05 PM
Yep and maybe if Moore had some cajones and had fought Bertuzzi none of this would have happened. Which brings up other questions.
If Moore's teammates were OK with what he had done, why didn't someone intervene?
Is it possible that his own teammates thought he deserved a beating for his cheapshot?
Why did the Colorado coach continue to put Moore on the ice when it was apparent that he was a marked man?
Does that not make the coach negligent?
Did he not knowingly put a player into a dangerous situation?
I am not defending what Bertuzzi did, and I think Moore should get atleast 5-6 million in compensation, but Moore and his Lawyer are still jackasses for the way they have handled this situation.
TimmyTabasco
2-18-06, 10:05 PM
Moore is old news.
Sure, what happened was wrong. Bertuzzi made a big mistake.
However, greed has gotten the best of Steve Moore.
Never be too greedy, or it will bite you in the ass. This is something Steve Moore will find out, in due time
My two cents
I am not defending what Bertuzzi did, and I think Moore should get atleast 5-6 million in compensation, but Moore and his Lawyer are still jackasses for the way they have handled this situation.So do his lawyers. Aim high settle somewhere in the middle. It seems as if you are on the same page as Moore and his Lawyers. :)
Moore is old news.
Sure, what happened was wrong. Bertuzzi made a big mistake.
However, greed has gotten the best of Steve Moore.
Never be too greedy, or it will bite you in the ass. This is something Steve Moore will find out, in due time
My two centsThere isn't an emoticon to describe this. Greed??? Bertuzzi took Moores way of life away from him. Sure he isn't the greatest player out there but he was worth the league minimun per annum, which he would have got had he not been taken out permently. Moore is supposed to forget all that happened and then go flip burgers for the rest of his life? (I exagerate, as he does have a Havard degree)
TimmyTabasco
2-18-06, 11:36 PM
There isn't an emoticon to describe this. Greed??? Bertuzzi took Moores way of life away from him. Sure he isn't the greatest player out there but he was worth the league minimun per annum, which he would have got had he not been taken out permently. Moore is supposed to forget all that happened and then go flip burgers for the rest of his life? (I exagerate, as he does have a Havard degree)
Hey, McDonalds is always hiring..and Moore does have a nice smile :thumb:
charlio lemieux
2-19-06, 12:43 AM
So do his lawyers. Aim high settle somewhere in the middle. It seems as if you are on the same page as Moore and his Lawyers. :)
Does anybody have the amount of the first suit?
The original amount was considered "laughable" in the US. So, presumably, it must have been much higher than the 19.5 million Moore and his parents are after now.
"Somewhere in the middle" would be around 9.75 million. So for arguments sake let's say somewhere between 8.5-11million. NOWAY Moore deserves close to that. Maybe if he had made the NHL, and been injured as a 20 or 21 year old, but this is a guy who as a forward couldn't crack the NHL until he was 26. Half of his carreer was past him before he even started. This guy was going to be a carreer fringe player who was always one hot prospect away from riding pine.
So I am not really on the SAME page as Moore's lawyers, but a similar one for sure. All I am agreeing with is that he deserves compensation. Just as anybody does who has their carreer ruined by someone else's actions or negligence.
I don't agree with telling the world all Steve wants to do is play hockey, and then try to sue where he can get the most money.
I don't agree with waiting until the last possible day to file the lawsuit knowing full well it would be during the Olympics. Once he had made up his mind to sue, which was when he first filed in Denver, there is no excuse for waiting to see if he would get cleared to play, or whatever other BS he has come up with. They filed during the Olympics to make sure the whole world would have the opportunity to revisit the entire incident.
I sure as heck don't agree with getting Moore's parents involved.
Moore's lawyer is playing dirty and as I mentioned before if Moore turns down any offer over 6 million then I hope he gets nothing. 6 million is more than fair to a guy who hasn't even proven he could stick with the team for more than one season let alone prove he could play in the new NHL.
They filed during the Olympics to make sure the whole world would have the opportunity to revisit the entire incident.
That's a baseless accusation. If you or anyone doesn't like thinking about that incident while you're busy cheering for Team Canada, that's unfortunate and understandable. But in no way does it follow that Danson purposely intended to rain on Canada's collective parade.
He is not obligated to the legal system or his client to file before deadline as you insist, just by the deadline, and that's what he did. Obviously the situation is not winning Moore or Danson any public sympathy. So why the insistence that it was a public relations scheme?
If there was no rhyme or reason to the filing date, I might question it too. But there is - so I will save my outrage for something more deserving.
I do agree his numbers are stupidly high, but that's normal for a lawsuit. You never go in asking for what is reasonable.
And it goes beyond how much $$ he might have made in the NHL. The guy was living out a dream that he worked for his whole life. People criticize him because he's a "borderline" NHL'er. That's not a fair criticism. How many people here would give anything to play in the NHL, even as a 4th liner? Would this be worse if Moore was a regular top player or an all-star? That whole line of thinking disturbs me.
For every Moore, there are tens of thousands of wannabe's who were/are NOT good enough to even break the NHL. So while you're only estimating his financial worth as a player... his lawyer is also estimating the fact that his lifelong pursuit has been taken away, physical trauma, emotional trauma, etc etc. It's just not that simple. We have people in this society getting millions because their coffee was too hot!
That's a baseless accusation. If you or anyone doesn't like thinking about that incident while you're busy cheering for Team Canada, that's unfortunate and understandable. But in no way does it follow that Danson purposely intended to rain on Canada's collective parade.
He is not obligated to the legal system or his client to file before deadline as you insist, just by the deadline, and that's what he did. Obviously the situation is not winning Moore or Danson any public sympathy. So why the insistence that it was a public relations scheme?
If there was no rhyme or reason to the filing date, I might question it too. But there is - so I will save my outrage for something more deserving.
I do agree his numbers are stupidly high, but that's normal for a lawsuit. You never go in asking for what is reasonable.
And it goes beyond how much $$ he might have made in the NHL. The guy was living out a dream that he worked for his whole life. People criticize him because he's a "borderline" NHL'er. That's not a fair criticism. How many people here would give anything to play in the NHL, even as a 4th liner? Would this be worse if Moore was a regular top player or an all-star? That whole line of thinking disturbs me.
For every Moore, there are tens of thousands of wannabe's who were/are NOT good enough to even break the NHL. So while you're only estimating his financial worth as a player... his lawyer is also estimating the fact that his lifelong pursuit has been taken away, physical trauma, emotional trauma, etc etc. It's just not that simple. We have people in this society getting millions because their coffee was too hot!Best damm response to this nonsence I've seen yet. Kudos Mel, now excuse me while I wipe the brown from my nose :shrug: (There, said it before any of you wise asses could ;) )
the Blueline Goddess
2-20-06, 2:45 PM
As an aside, speaking as a criminal justice student as well as a family member of several in the legal profession...
lawyers wait until the last minute. This allows them to make sure they have found all the evidence they need, talk to everyone involved, get all their ducks in a row, etc. To say that Moore's lawyer did this on purpose is laughable at best.
Is the amount of the lawsuit high? Yes. It is EXTREMELY rare for anyone to be awarded the amount the file for if they win. It has been stated you throw a high amount out there because you know you'll get less. This is true.
Blaming Granato for playing Moore is weak at best. That's like saying if I chose to walk around wearing a revealing outfit that if I get raped, I deserve it. Seriously. Moore's hit on Naslund cost Nas what... a game? Two? I honestly don't remember. Bertuzzi quite possibly affect Moore for the rest of his life.
I don't say any of this as an Avs fan. I've looked at this from both sides. I feel bad that Bert made a stupid choice, but sadly, life is about owning up to your mistakes. His life should be affected.
If I were to injure/kill someone with my car, however unintentional, I would have to pay either monetarily or with jail time. How is this any different?
Newfie John
2-20-06, 5:22 PM
Best damm response to this nonsence I've seen yet. Kudos Mel, now excuse me while I wipe the brown from my nose :shrug: (There, said it before any of you wise asses could ;) )
Gah! I was just about to say it and then you said it yourself. Touche.:laughing:
As an aside, speaking as a criminal justice student as well as a family member of several in the legal profession...
lawyers wait until the last minute. This allows them to make sure they have found all the evidence they need, talk to everyone involved, get all their ducks in a row, etc. To say that Moore's lawyer did this on purpose is laughable at best.
Is the amount of the lawsuit high? Yes. It is EXTREMELY rare for anyone to be awarded the amount the file for if they win. It has been stated you throw a high amount out there because you know you'll get less. This is true.
Blaming Granato for playing Moore is weak at best. That's like saying if I chose to walk around wearing a revealing outfit that if I get raped, I deserve it. Seriously. Moore's hit on Naslund cost Nas what... a game? Two? I honestly don't remember. Bertuzzi quite possibly affect Moore for the rest of his life.
I don't say any of this as an Avs fan. I've looked at this from both sides. I feel bad that Bert made a stupid choice, but sadly, life is about owning up to your mistakes. His life should be affected.
If I were to injure/kill someone with my car, however unintentional, I would have to pay either monetarily or with jail time. How is this any different?
Very good post!:)
I've never understood how Granato gets blamed for this,its just ridicolous.Why don't these same people blame Marc Crawford then for not controlling Bertuzzi:rolleyes: ,afterall the league contacted BOTH the Canucks and Avalanche after the 1st period when the score was 5-0 for the Avalanche and told BOTH teams not to do anything stupid.After a memo like this from the league there should have been no reason why Moore shouldn't have still be playing and safe because NO ONE should have gone after him like Bertuzzi did.I'm sorry but if you can't follow the leagues instructions then you deserve to have the book thrown at you!Imagine if any of us employees did something our superiors told us not to do but we still went out and did it and it ended up being bad and caused the company a "black eye",what do you think would happen to us???I'll tell you,we'd be heavily reprimanded or fired!
Steve Moore may be greedy but you know what,we haven't walked through his shoes or felt his pain and had to go through physiotherapy like he has so in my opinion he's entitled to some form of cash compensation at the expense of his attacker,Todd Bertuzzi!
Cheers
KB in Kelowna
2-20-06, 10:58 PM
I had the same problem with Crawford and Pat Burns in the McSorley - Brashier assault. Namely what were those two players doing on the ice very late in the 3rd period of a blow out? Now the assault on Moore took place about mid way through the third, if I recall correctly, and I doubt that Granato or Crawford could have anticipated the punch from behind and pile drive dog pile that ensued. However since the reason for the Feb 16 filing is that is was the Moore hit on Naslund set in process a trail of events that lead to the attack. As the Canucks/Orca Bay have been named as codefendats in the suit they must be assuming some culpability on Crawford's part. However the March 08 2004 game was the second meeting since the Feb 16 incident with Naslund there may be a reasonable argument to refute the conspiracy theory.
I have never condoned what Bertuzzi did, and I was in the minority of Canuck fans who thought the police and criminal justice system where within their authority and obligations to be involved in this case as they were in the McSorley incident. I also thought that Bertuzzi would have served at least 20 more games at the start of this season. But the NHL inhouse justice system has let way too much slip by in the past.
I have also disliked how this incident was handled in the media. Prior to March 8 there were those in the BC and national sports media who called the Canucks soft for not protecting Naslund or retaliating agaisnt Moore or one of Colorado's skilled players, then when it happened suddenly started to pontificate with thier disgust over violence on the ice. Then there were mdia outlets who assigned "hard news" reporters to the story and did not use the insight or professionalism available in thier own newsrooms, even if it would be hypocritical opinions. Then these "knights of the keyboard" weighed in on the Team Canada selection, which the Bertuzzi of 2002-03 deserved, but the Bertuzzi of 05-06 hasn't earned.
I do have sympathy for Steve Moore, just not $19 million worth. I don't have sympathy for those who have sought to exploit this situation in the media. You would have thought Moore was rendered quadrapalegic and would be reduced to selling pencils at the transit interchange station , and that he was a vital cog in the Avalance future. Moore is a Harvad graduate, and he got his shot at the NHL, which is more than thousands of other's who lace up the skates. I doubt that most Avalance fans could have picked him out of a team picture prior to March 8 2004. I hope he makes a full recouvery and is no longer bothered by dizziness and other post concussion symptons. If he is scincere in his desire to get on with his life then the insurace companies and lawyers involved in should arrive at a fair and equitable settlement via negotiation before this case is assigned a court date.
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