View Full Version : Neidermayer, Jovo and McCabe ??????
charlio lemieux
1-26-06, 3:34 PM
Neidermayer (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=152407&hubname=nhl), Jovo and McCabe are all possibly going to miss the Olympics due to injuries.
So who are the three Defensemen that could be replacing them?
Phaneuf has to go. He is one of the top ten Canadian defensemen for sure.
I like Stuart, and Boyle.
They'll probably send Bouwmeester :rolleyes: instead of Stuart or Boyle but I doubt they can ignore the year Phaneuf is having.
Phaneuf is a must, Hannan has been amazing the past.. just over a month.
Not sure who I'd want to be the 3rd, but I wouldn't mind Bouw.
charlio lemieux
1-26-06, 3:55 PM
Yes Hannan is a guy that should definately be in the mix aswell.
Newfie John
1-26-06, 4:17 PM
Mccabe won't be out that long I don't think. He's pretty much just being precautionary about it right now. If Niedermayer and Jovo can't go, I gauruntee you he'll be there.
wildboy26
1-27-06, 4:56 PM
Keep in mind if all 3 dont go, that would open up only 2 Oly spots, and 1 taxi squad spot, so it is not like 3 Oly spots being filled. :) In any case Phaneuf is first in line I think or is he? There tends to be a bias to rookies and not wanting to spurn good veterans who have "waited their turn", it just seems to be a trend. Still my guess of order of likelihood to move up and replace would be: Phaneuf, Boyle, Bouwmeester, Haanan, Phillips. Nobody else has a snowballs chance in h$ll. I cant see them considering Stuart, I am not saying they shouldnt, just that they wont.
Newfie John
1-28-06, 12:23 AM
The first 2 in line are Boyle and Bouwmeester. I can gauruntee you that much. Jekkles has spoken.. lol
TimmyTabasco
1-28-06, 5:11 AM
Boyle should go before Bouwmeester
Anything less would be a slap in the face
wildboy26
1-28-06, 5:39 PM
Bouwmeester=overrated
Boyle=underrated
Phaneuf=everybody thinks he is great, but dont know what to do because of his age and inexperience
Brewer=overrated, but still will never see a Team Canada jersey except for World Champ. maybe ever again
Haanan=up and down, hard to get a guage on
Phillips=underrated because he is stuck behind Redden and Chara in Ottawa
charlio lemieux
1-31-06, 1:52 PM
Jovo's out. Going to have surgery. I'm surprised it hasn't been posted yet.
It looks like McCabe will be healthy enough, barring re-injury, to be at the Olympics. Good Stuff.
There has been talk that Neidermayer maybe putting his entire carreer in jeopardy by not having surgery to play in the Olympics. Apparently if there is much more damage it could be beyond repair. That could just be the doctors being over dramatic trying to scare him into surgery. Haven't heard if Scott's decision is final or not. It should be made clear shortly.
Newfie John
1-31-06, 3:12 PM
Phillips=underrated because he is stuck behind Redden and Chara in Ottawa
That would have been true in years past, but he hasn't been that good this season. Certainly not Olympic quality.
Max Power
2-01-06, 9:16 AM
That would have been true in years past, but he hasn't been that good this season. Certainly not Olympic quality.
True but he's stepped it up since the holidays and has always been solid defensively. Saying that he still wouldn't be my first pick but I wouldn't be worried if he was picked. He's a player who always steps it up a few notches when it counts
wildboy26
2-01-06, 4:42 PM
Jovo's out. Going to have surgery. I'm surprised it hasn't been posted yet.
It looks like McCabe will be healthy enough, barring re-injury, to be at the Olympics. Good Stuff.
There has been talk that Neidermayer maybe putting his entire carreer in jeopardy by not having surgery to play in the Olympics. Apparently if there is much more damage it could be beyond repair. That could just be the doctors being over dramatic trying to scare him into surgery. Haven't heard if Scott's decision is final or not. It should be made clear shortly.
It is a hard thing to step down from the Olympics. It means alot more to the players than people assume I think, I believe to many of the players it is on very close to the NHL playoffs, especialy those on non-realistic Stanley Cup contending teams. Still I think he should bite the bullet and have the surgery now, and miss the Olympics, if all I am hearing on his injury is accurate.
charlio lemieux
2-04-06, 9:19 PM
Staal and Spezza may still get to go to Turino. It looks like Team Canada has the injury bug and with over a week to go, who else will go down.
Atleast Canada is not alone, Naslund has said he is staying home to rest during the games.
7:46 PM EST, 02/04/2006
Lecavalier sidelined by injury
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Tampa Bay Lightning center Vincent Lecavalier missed Saturday night's game against Washington with what the team called an upper body injury.
Lecavalier has 21 goals and 46 points in 52 games this season. He left Friday's practice early.
The Lightning alternate captain is one of three Tampa Bay players on Canada's roster for this month's Turin Olympics.
No word on what it is or how long he is out for. But like Naslund said the Olympics is not the place where you can play at 85%. Any doubt of his health and he should stay home. Spezza and Staal are more than adequate replacements.
wildboy26
2-04-06, 10:38 PM
Staal should be the replacement over Spezza clearly. Staal is a better all-around player with atleast as good of offense and much better defence. He should have been on the team in the first place hands down, and the brass were nuts to pick Draper, St. Louis, or Doan over him the way they are playing this year.
Max Power
2-08-06, 12:16 PM
Niedermayer is out
Now who replaces him
TSN.ca Staff
2/8/2006 9:52:18 AM
Mighty Ducks of Anaheim defenceman Scott Niedermayer has decided that he will not be playing for Canada at the 2006 Winter Olympic Games in Torino.
Niedermayer, one of Team Canada's top defencemen for almost a decade, has been playing over the last couple of months with a lingering knee injury.
He suffered a small tear in some cartilage in his right knee in December and had to decide whether to continue playing through the injury, or to use the Olympic break as an opportunity to have arthroscopic knee surgery and minimize the time missed playing with the Ducks.
The 2004 Norris Trophy winner underwent a second MRI last week, and the latest results showed more swelling than before, but not to the point where doctors said surgery is absolutely necessary.
Niedermayer was one of Canada's most experienced blueliners, having played at the 1991 and 1992 World Juniors, the 1996 World Cup, the 1998 and 2002 Winter Olympics, Canada's 2004 World Championship team and the 2004 World Cup team.
More to follow
charlio lemieux
2-08-06, 12:57 PM
Hopefully Phanuef. But that is unlikely. Probably Boyle.
charlio lemieux
2-08-06, 6:29 PM
Sportsnet is saying Bouwmeester will play, and Boyle goes on the Taxi squad.
If this team doesn't win, I'm sure going to have a lot of questions...
Draper, Doan, McCabe and Bouwmeester over Staal, Spezza, Phaneuf and Hannan? Not to mention Kariya, Shanny, Marleau and Tanguay...
wildboy26
2-09-06, 9:55 AM
This is crazy, there is no way in he%l Bouwmeester should be over any one of Boyle, Phaneuf, or Phillips. THAT GUY IS SO SO OVERRATED! He is the new Eric Brewer, the former overhyped defenceman who was put on Team Canadas. Team Canada Brass you guys sucks, picking another undeserving part of the team over more worthy people. Boyle must feel jipped, I sure would.
Max Power
2-09-06, 10:38 AM
Funny how all these players have ties to Team Canada managment
The only player IMO deserves a shot is McCabe but even then the selections don?t seem to make much sense
wildboy26
2-09-06, 2:16 PM
Funny how all these players have ties to Team Canada managment
The only player IMO deserves a shot is McCabe but even then the selections don?t seem to make much sense
It is so political at times it makes me want to p%ke. I would almost wish we lost the gold to make them pay for using so much unfair politics in their picks, except when I look over every other country every country has 7 or 8 very political picks as well. Ryan Miller left off the U.S.A goaltending roster for example, ROTFL!!!
It is very obvious those with ties to Vancouver, Edmonton, Florida, Phoenix, had atleast one player benefit greatly from the connection. I dont include Philadelphia since Gagne clearly deserved to be on the team.
This is crazy, there is no way in he%l Bouwmeester should be over any one of Boyle, Phaneuf, or Phillips. THAT GUY IS SO SO OVERRATED! He is the new Eric Brewer, the former overhyped defenceman who was put on Team Canadas. Team Canada Brass you guys sucks, picking another undeserving part of the team over more worthy people. Boyle must feel jipped, I sure would.
Obligatory comment about how Brewer was Canada's best defenseman at the World Cup.
charlio lemieux
2-09-06, 4:10 PM
To overlook Phaneuf for Boyle and especially Bouwmeester is a disgrace.
But so was taking Draper over Brind'amour. So I guess it is just par for the course, for team Canada.
wildboy26
2-10-06, 9:29 AM
To overlook Phaneuf for Boyle and especially Bouwmeester is a disgrace.
But so was taking Draper over Brind'amour. So I guess it is just par for the course, for team Canada.
Actually Staal is the one who was really robbed at the forward position! I agree some of Team Canada's choices have been a total joke though.
charlio lemieux
2-10-06, 5:04 PM
Draper and Staal would be going for two different reasons. Draper is there as a checker. Brind'amour is much better than Draper this year and combined with his Faceoff % should have gone in the place of Draper, hands down.
Staal should have gone instead of Bertuzzi, Doan, St louis or Smyth.
What team Canada's 4th line should be: Shanahan - Brind'amour - Iginla
Instead we are sending: Smyth - Draper - Doan
Oh well to late now.
Should have taken Phaneuf IMO.
Bouwmeester hasn't been all that great this season. He'd be last on my list of the eligable candidates actually. He does however have that great skating and ability to join the rush. And I'm sure hockey Canada hopes he reaches his full potential and one day become a regular for us. Maybe a bit of grooming here? He was very good for the International Team last time he served on the world stage. Again, I had him last on my list but I can see the justifications. Just not as good as those you can make for all these other great players. Regardless, an Olympic calibre skater. We're spolied with this depth.
Phaneuf is just the best of the bunch IMO, espcially defensively. He too could use grooming. Don't like his offense much now actually. He's not big on activating into the play to start an odd man rush and his shot is horribly inaccurate. It's a cannon, but it needs fine tuning (should come with time). His 95 missed shot this year is 4th in the NHL. And leader Kovalchuk checks in at 107. Seeing as Dion doesn't shoot nearly as much as the elite scorers of the league, that's a very bad %.
Boyle is a crappier Niedermayer in a nutsell so I definately see the rational for him being the taxi-squad player. An Ottawa boy, I'm happy for him.
Phillips has done a complete 180 from his early poor form. He's once again that rugged, perfect #3 defeseman who complements an elite man like Chara (or Pronger...) well. Great skating and steps up in the playoffs and other big games all the time. Good for Canada as a junior, I've no doubt he'd kick it up as many notches as need if in Turin. But I'm happy he'll be staying home from a Sens point of view. We've enough key players risking injury, fatigue, and turning down valuable rest as it is. Our scheudal is easy in terms of opposition after the break, but a condensced version along with extended early season lay-offs sees us play back-to-backs and/or 3 games in 4 nights FAR too often. The more rest the boys get the better. I'm a bit worried about Chara playing up to 45 minutes for the Slovaks. Admittedly, he has gone on record saying he likes it that way (keeps him "in" the game) and would do it in Ottawa if they'd let him. Not sure about that one though....
I'm happy enough with the guys selected. Again, we have crazy depth. All are Olympic quality, as are their replacements. I just would have ranked them differently:
Phaneuf
Boyle/Phillips (interchangible IMO. I'll ho with Boyle since he isn't a Sen)
Bouwmeester
charlio lemieux
2-11-06, 10:34 AM
Phaneuf may still get to go.
Kevin Gibson:
Canada To Lose Another D-Man? 02/11/2006 @ 08:28 AM
Rob Blake left the Avs/Blue Jackets game last night with a groin strain. His status is unknown at this time. If Blake can`t go, Dan Boyle would replace him and Dion Phaneuf would be added to the taxi squad.
Hal Gill has been added to the American taxi squad.
Espn.com:
Colorado defenseman Rob Blake strained a groin muscle and did not play in the third period.
They're dropping like flies. Pronger has a cracked bone in his foot as well.
Barring something further happening Pronger will be going, no word on Blake yet.
Staal should have gone instead of Bertuzzi.
I've had the luxury of watching Bertuzzi play and there's absolutely no way in hell he should be there over Staal,this is a disgrace.Heck I'd even have Shanahan there over Bertuzzi.I was 1 of only a few people that argued for Bertuzzi to be on the last Canadian team after the Moore incident but this time there's no way I can argue for him being here,he's done nothing this season except he had 3 good weeks of hockey before the Olympic selection while Staal has been pretty consistent the whole season.
Bowmeister is a fairly good selection but I would have been happier if Chris Phillips would have been there instead,this guy is so underrated!
Cheers
wildboy26
2-11-06, 2:48 PM
Draper and Staal would be going for two different reasons. Draper is there as a checker. Brind'amour is much better than Draper this year and combined with his Faceoff % should have gone in the place of Draper, hands down.
Staal should have gone instead of Bertuzzi, Doan, St louis or Smyth.
What team Canada's 4th line should be: Shanahan - Brind'amour - Iginla
Instead we are sending: Smyth - Draper - Doan
Oh well to late now.
Ok I see your point and I agree except for Iginla on the 4th line. He is too good for the 4th line.
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