If there was a betting site on Rex Grossman

[wildboy26]

These would be his odds:


Grossman to finish one regular season before he retires playing 14 of 16 regular season games or more: 1 to 5

Grossman to finish two regular seasons before he retires playing 14 of 16 regular season games or more: 1 to 8

Grossman to finish five regular seasons before he retires playing 14 of 16 regular season games or more: 1 to 25

Grossman to finish ten regular seasons before he retires playing 14 or 16 regular season games or more: 1 to 100

A team to ever win the Super Bowl with Grossman as starting quarterback in the playoffs: 1 to 40

Grossman to ever go to the Pro Bowl: 1 to 75

Grossman to ever win a league award of some kind: 1 to 250

Grossman to ever start a NFL playoff game again: 1 to 6

Kyle Orton, or somebody from the NFL draft, or a free agent to be the starting quarterback next year: 7 to 1

Grossman to retire before he turns 28: 3 to 1


Talk about a really overhyped young player. He has been in the NFL 3 seasons and only started 6 regular season games, and 7 total games counting his one playoff appearance. He will be replaced by Kyle Orton, or some free agent, or some draft pick as their starter next year. These are his very high odds to do absolutely nothing with his career.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Grossman is a lot more talented than Orton, and he should be the starter for the Bears next season. Injuries have slowed his development, but I think he'll be an alright starter for Chicago. Nothing special, but better than Orton.

[J.R.]

Grossman is currently better than Orton.

However Rex isn't a good quarterback. We saw that in the last few weeks of the regular season and in the Bears' only postseason game, that he threw away.

I agree with wildboy26, it won't be long until Kyle Orton is mature enough to take back the reigns and lead da Bears.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Grossman is much better than Orton right now and most likely next year will be better than him. I don't know exactly how he has been hyped considering people were freaking out that they were pulling Orton for Grossman. Even though Orton was awful the entire season. Grossman has also had no help of any kind besides a banged up Thomas Jones. No WR help, no TE to bail him out. I don't try to tell me about Muhammad because he did nothing this year and last year was his contract year(he knew he was gonna get cut or would have to renegotiate). Chicago shouldn't have signed him to such a long deal on the offseason because he is just too old. If Grossman gets some kind of weapon in the passing game, I would be confident in his ability to lead the Bears.

[wildboy26]

Grossman has been in the NFL for 3 freaking years, and has started only 6 regular season games, and 1 playoff game. He obviously is not good enough to even be one of the worst NFL quarterbacks, he is not good enough to be a quarterback in the NFL period, except a backup. If he was good enough to be a playing NFL quarterback he would have played more than 6 regular season games in 3 full years in the NFL. He should go to Europe or the CFL since he is obviously too weak to be an NFL quarterback, as his 6 starts in 3 years shows.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Grossman has been in the NFL for 3 freaking years, and has started only 6 regular season games, and 1 playoff game. He obviously is not good enough to even be one of the worst NFL quarterbacks, he is not good enough to be a quarterback in the NFL period, except a backup. If he was good enough to be a playing NFL quarterback he would have played more than 6 regular season games in 3 full years in the NFL. He should go to Europe or the CFL since he is obviously too weak to be an NFL quarterback, as his 6 starts in 3 years shows.

He's started six games because of injuries:rolleyes:

Don't make it seem like he rode the pine because he sucked:no:

Kyle Orton was a POS this year. Period:talkhand:

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Grossman has been in the NFL for 3 freaking years, and has started only 6 regular season games, and 1 playoff game. He obviously is not good enough to even be one of the worst NFL quarterbacks, he is not good enough to be a quarterback in the NFL period, except a backup. If he was good enough to be a playing NFL quarterback he would have played more than 6 regular season games in 3 full years in the NFL. He should go to Europe or the CFL since he is obviously too weak to be an NFL quarterback, as his 6 starts in 3 years shows.

Um....do you watch football??? Or even pay attention to it???

By this post I'm gonna assume the answer is no because you don't realize that he has had two serious injuries to keep him out and allow him to only start 6 regular season games. If this guy is healthy and has some sort of weapons he could be very good.

[wildboy26]

I realize full well he has had two major injuries, a knee injury last year, and ankle this year. I also realize full well the following things:

1)He did not get to start his first season, despite the QBs in Chicago not being very good that year either, and being a 1st round draft pick. Orton did get to be the starter this year once Hutchinson started sucking, after Rex was injured, despite being a mere 4th round draft pick.

2)Even when Rex got healthy to play they started Orton in 2 of the remaining 5 Bears games including the playoffs. When Rex first came back they said the job was still Orton's to lose, Orton started the first game with Rex fully healthy and lost with a bad performance. He still was given the start for the next game, and they only brought Rex on when Orton went 2-for-10 and was pathetic. Rex got the next start. Then they gave Orton the final start of the regular season, they say to give Rex rest for the playoffs, but I suspect to give Orton a chance to win his starting job back. Then Rex stared the playoff game probably only because Orton played his 3rd worst game of the whole year in the final regular season game given the chance to win his starting job back. They basically had to be forced to give Rex a couple games at the end of the year even when he got healthy and even with the not-so-good Orton as starting QB. They did not think enough to give Rex 3 or 4 starts to be ready for the playoffs, and instead started the mediocre Orton in many of those games, which make Rex less ready for the playoffs given his inexperience in the league. That is telling enough right now.

3)I dont care if it was because of injuries or whatever the reason is, the fact is he has never been a real starter in the NFL. A real starter would have had a season of playing more than 3 games in a season by the time he was a 25 year old with 3 years of experience in the league. If they dont want Orton as the starter, they will bring in a free agent QB, even a mediocre one to replace him, or get one in the entry draft, and even if he is not Leinart or Young, start him over Grossman before the year is out. The guy is simply too weak a QB to ever get through a full year as a starter in the NFL, he will either be replaced at the start of the year, midway through, get injured again, something will happen.


I am so sure of that he wont ever have a year playing 14 or more of the 16 regular season games I even made a bet with somebody on another site, if he does I pay this person 100$, if he doesnt next year I get 14$, but still would have to pay this person the 100$ if he ever manages this in Chicago before the end of his career. That is how confident I am he wont, not even once.

[wildboy26]

I hope this thread is still here next year. I want to brag when Grossman fails to get through a year as starting QB for the 4th straight year and ends up being cut by Chicago and quitting altogether. There is no way he will stay in the sport if he is demoted to backup for good I bet.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

I hope this thread is still here next year. I want to brag when Grossman fails to get through a year as starting QB for the 4th straight year and ends up being cut by Chicago and quitting altogether. There is no way he will stay in the sport if he is demoted to backup for good I bet.

There should be a thread for worst post of the year. I'd nominate this.

[wildboy26]

There should be a thread for worst post of the year. I'd nominate this.

What is wrong with my post. I like to collect kudos for when I am right. I take pride in making good predictions in all sports I follow. My predictions for the Olympic hockey team were closer than most and most did not give me kudos for that however.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

What is wrong with my post. I like to collect kudos for when I am right. I take pride in making good predictions in all sports I follow. My predictions for the Olympic hockey team were closer than most and most did not give me kudos for that however.

That's because nobody cares. Making predictions doens't make you knowledgeable about a sport. It's just luck. Whether you like him or not, Grossman is a talented prospect. The only thing that has held him back is injuries.

[wildboy26]

That's because nobody cares. Making predictions doens't make you knowledgeable about a sport. It's just luck. Whether you like him or not, Grossman is a talented prospect. The only thing that has held him back is injuries.

Basicaly you are already conceding I will be right. Thank you very much. Like I said I will be back here to gloat when Grossman loses his starting job to Orton next year, I can officialy state he has NEVER been a starting QB in the NFL since he never has been, and then he is cut, and retires. Everybody will be telling me I was lucky, but I will know I saw it coming all along.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Basicaly you are already conceding I will be right. Thank you very much. Like I said I will be back here to gloat when Grossman loses his starting job to Orton next year, I can officialy state he has NEVER been a starting QB in the NFL since he never has been, and then he is cut, and retires. Everybody will be telling me I was lucky, but I will know I saw it coming all along.

Where did I concede you'll be right? Grossman will start over Orton next season, and if he ever does part ways with Chicago there will be plenty of teams lining up to sign him as their potential starter. He has decent mobility, a good arm, and most players in Chicago wanted him to start over Orton once he got healthy. It'll be hard for Orton to thrive in Chicago when he doens't even have the locker room on his side.

[wildboy26]

I have read articles out of Chicago that suggest otherwise. Things like "Orton is one play away from winning the starting job". When things like that are said it is clear they are salivating to make Orton the starter. I am also good with my football predictions usually. I predicted New England to win each of the 3 years they won, and I also predicted New England to crash hard this year as well. I also predicted Peyton to screw up in the playoffs yet again and he has. I also predict the Steelers to win the final BTW, although I would much rather the Seahawks. The Steelers look unbeatable right now though. I will be good with my Rex Grossman prediciton too.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

So...I've made a lot of the same predictions you've made. Big deal.

Orton started the bulk of the season and the team still went with Grossman in the playoffs. The franchise has more confidence in Grossman to be a better starter down the road. Orton looked pathetic most of this season. He could be a good starter down the road (for the record, I wouldn't have minded the Packers picking him in the middle rounds instead of wasting a first on Rodgers), but Grossman will be given every chance to succeed in Chicago because he's clearly a more talented player.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

I have read articles out of Chicago that suggest otherwise. Things like "Orton is one play away from winning the starting job". When things like that are said it is clear they are salivating to make Orton the starter. I am also good with my football predictions usually. I predicted New England to win each of the 3 years they won, and I also predicted New England to crash hard this year as well. I also predicted Peyton to screw up in the playoffs yet again and he has. I also predict the Steelers to win the final BTW, although I would much rather the Seahawks. The Steelers look unbeatable right now though. I will be good with my Rex Grossman prediciton too.

You have read articles that come out of one of the most negative cities in America. If it was up to the writers in Chicago, the Bears would no longer have Thomas Jones, Brian Urlacher, and half the team that has made them successful this past year.

Also, Grossman has been a starter in the past. He started 3 games in his 2nd year before breaking his leg. He didn't start because someone else had an injury or because they sucked, he started because he earned the job. Orton didn't earn the job, he needed Grossman to have a serious injury to play. Orton didn't do a good job by any means. He didn't deserve to keep it and that's why he was benched. If you think for one second that Orton should have started over Grossman you need to have all NFL viewing privileges revoked.

[wildboy26]

On a Chicago Bears message board I was recently informed they are about to trade Grossman to Minessota for Culpepper and a 1st round draft pick in 2006. Culpepper will back up Orton. Grossman will probably quit after the trade, or he might back up Brad Johnson.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

On a Chicago Bears message board I was recently informed they are about to trade Grossman to Minessota for Culpepper and a 1st round draft pick in 2006. Culpepper will back up Orton. Grossman will probably quit after the trade, or he might back up Brad Johnson.

I won't even dignify this with a response:rolleyes:

[wildboy26]

I won't even dignify this with a response:rolleyes:

What if it turns out to be right? :talkhand:

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

What if it turns out to be right? :talkhand:

Culpepper probably will be traded. Brad Childress is the new coach in Minny, and I heard a report saying he might not think Culpepper is the right fit for his version of the West Coast Offense. Him going to Arizona and being reunited with Dennis Green makes a lot more sense though. As for Culpepper backing up Orton, the Bears wouldn't pick up Culpepper's contract to warm the bench. Also, as much as I get on Dante sometimes, he still is one of the better QBs in the league. The only reason he'd sit on the bench next year is because he knee was destroyed this year and he might not be 100% next season.

btw, you're blind hatred of Rex Grossman makes it difficult to take anything you say seriously.

[wildboy26]

Culpepper probably will be traded. Brad Childress is the new coach in Minny, and I heard a report saying he might not think Culpepper is the right fit for his version of the West Coast Offense. Him going to Arizona and being reunited with Dennis Green makes a lot more sense though. As for Culpepper backing up Orton, the Bears wouldn't pick up Culpepper's contract to warm the bench. Also, as much as I get on Dante sometimes, he still is one of the better QBs in the league. The only reason he'd sit on the bench next year is because he knee was destroyed this year and he might not be 100% next season.

btw, you're blind hatred of Rex Grossman makes it difficult to take anything you say seriously.

Culpepper is not near the same QB without Moss, that was shown in the games he did play next year. Do you think if Minnesota used Brad Johnson as starting QB next year they will win the division?

I dont have a blind hatred of Grossman. He has done none of the things I say he hasnt, like even playing more than 3 games a season in the NFL as starter. Also inability to stay healthy to the extent he hasnt, is never a postive trait in the NFL were careers of promise often end with only 1 key injury.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Culpepper is not near the same QB without Moss, that was shown in the games he did play next year.

That's why he had one of the best seasons of his career last year when Moss was hurt/playing hurt for pretty much the entire season. I think a lot of the struggles he had early on can be attributed to the injury of Matt Birk and the large amount of time it took the O-line to adjust. Not having argueably the best center in the game calling out assignment presnap can really hurt how a line performs.

Do you think if Minnesota used Brad Johnson as starting QB next year they will win the division?

It depends on a lot of things. If Minny's defense plays well and they can get a running game (wouldn't be surprised if they used their first on White or D. Williams) then it doesn't matter who lines up at QB. The signal caller just has to be a game manager and that's a role Johnson is more than capable of playing.

I dont have a blind hatred of Grossman. He has done none of the things I say he hasnt, like even playing more than 3 games a season in the NFL as starter. Also inability to stay healthy to the extent he hasnt, is never a postive trait in the NFL were careers of promise often end with only 1 key injury.

Saying he'll retire next year:rolleyes: Because guys just willingly leave millions on the table:rolleyes: He might turn out to be a bust, but it's still too early to tell IMO. He'll be the Bears starter next year, and lets see what he can do when healthy.

[wildboy26]

Hopefully Minnesota does win their division next year, because that means Chicago wont, and then Grossman will be history for sure for sure. :)

I agree injuries to his team hurt Culpepper early on, but look at how Tom Brady performed with almost his whole team injured in the first 12 games or so. Granted that is Tom Brady but still........

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Tom Brady is the best QB in the league. Culpepper is solid, but there's no comparision between the two.

[wildboy26]

Tom Brady would only be the best quarterback in the league if you judge it strictly by post-season play. If one looks at regular season play Manning is clearly superior, Carson Palmer of last year was superior to any year Brady has had, others have been as well. However nobody has matched Brady`s postseason prowess so it depends what you are judging it on. However if it on full year QBing Brady is not and never was the best.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Tom Brady would only be the best quarterback in the league if you judge it strictly by post-season play. If one looks at regular season play Manning is clearly superior, Carson Palmer of last year was superior to any year Brady has had, others have been as well. However nobody has matched Brady`s postseason prowess so it depends what you are judging it on. However if it on full year QBing Brady is not and never was the best.

Brady has never had the offensive arsenal that Manning or Palmer have though. You could argue Brady's most reliable receivers are his two freakin' tight ends. He uses all of his targets well, and his ability to spread the ball around still allows him to thrive even without an elite pass catcher on the team. Also, this year with a crappy team in front of him Brady carried the team on his back and led them to a division championship. At times Brady had a line full of rookies and journeymen NFLers, and no running game with Dillon banged up. Yet, he was still able to make play after play. Also, Brady's offensive statistics are hurt somewhat by the fact that he's almost always had a great defense on the otherside of the ball. The Pats don't often have to win games in shootouts, so he doens't have to throw the ball as often (this year excluded).

[wildboy26]

Brady has never had the offensive arsenal that Manning or Palmer have though. You could argue Brady's most reliable receivers are his two freakin' tight ends. He uses all of his targets well, and his ability to spread the ball around still allows him to thrive even without an elite pass catcher on the team. Also, this year with a crappy team in front of him Brady carried the team on his back and led them to a division championship. At times Brady had a line full of rookies and journeymen NFLers, and no running game with Dillon banged up. Yet, he was still able to make play after play. Also, Brady's offensive statistics are hurt somewhat by the fact that he's almost always had a great defense on the otherside of the ball. The Pats don't often have to win games in shootouts, so he doens't have to throw the ball as often (this year excluded).

If one could say Brady could have put up better numbers with better receivers, one could also say Manning could have beaten Brady in their playoff meetings had he had the same defence in those games that Brady had. Both are speculation.

I agree this year was Brady`s most impressive because he put up his better ever stats with a weaker team around him. However in his best years past he did not even put up the stats of this year, and far below the best, even if his receivers were not the best, still with a very strong team around him overall. So I could never consider him the best QB except for the best playoff QB as of yet.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Tom Brady is the best QB in the league for obvious reasons. 3 Super Bowl rings, and his stats rank up there with the top 5 QBs, statistically. Manning of course blows everyone out of the water statistically, but chokes come playoff time. He basically has what McNabb had before TO. Almost nothing. Mediocre recievers with a pretty good O-line. Yet he can still put up great numbers without a Marvin Harrison, Chad Johnson, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez, etc. The man is the best in the game, period. Anyone that tries to argue that is just wrong.

[wildboy26]

Tom Brady is the best QB in the league for obvious reasons. 3 Super Bowl rings, and his stats rank up there with the top 5 QBs, statistically. Manning of course blows everyone out of the water statistically, but chokes come playoff time. He basically has what McNabb had before TO. Almost nothing. Mediocre recievers with a pretty good O-line. Yet he can still put up great numbers without a Marvin Harrison, Chad Johnson, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez, etc. The man is the best in the game, period. Anyone that tries to argue that is just wrong.

Then alot of people must be plain wrong, since I have heard more experts call Manning the best QB in the game than Brady, yes some have said Brady, but more have said Manning, and in football magazines when most of the expert opinions are given the vast majority pick Manning, and some lists have Brady lower than 2nd, even down in #4 or #5. In fact even the Boston crew of CBS that are gaga over the Patriots only went as far to say as after their playoff performance this year, "maybe Brady should even start to be considered as one of the 2 or 3 best QBs in the game today", hardly a ringing endorsement from a heavily pro-New England crew for him as the best QB.

Also wasnt Brady's playoff peformance this year a gem as well. :laughing: Also there are years Brady is not top 5 statisticaly. This is one of the only years he was throughout the year in most categories, so that does shut out other years he isnt, that is like saying his mediocre playoff performance this year should shut out his past outstanding ones.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Did you read the part of my post about supporting cast and WRs??? Who does Tom Brady have??? Deion "I'll be injured all year so don't count me" Branch. Please. Experts are morons and you would understand that if you watched them talk and try to validate their twisted thoughts. There are very few "experts" on TV or that write in magazines, newpapers, etc. hat have any idea what they are talkin about. If I listened to all the experts I would think Ilya Kovalchuk is the greatest thing to ever touch the ice, Shaun Alexander is by far the best RB in the league, and Kobe is the reincarnation of Jesus.

[wildboy26]

Did you read the part of my post about supporting cast and WRs??? Who does Tom Brady have??? Deion "I'll be injured all year so don't count me" Branch. Please. Experts are morons and you would understand that if you watched them talk and try to validate their twisted thoughts. There are very few "experts" on TV or that write in magazines, newpapers, etc. hat have any idea what they are talkin about. If I listened to all the experts I would think Ilya Kovalchuk is the greatest thing to ever touch the ice, Shaun Alexander is by far the best RB in the league, and Kobe is the reincarnation of Jesus.

I see what you are saying, but alot of these experts are former star players in the NFL, or Super Bowl winners or finalists(the ones I am not sure I check their bios and almost always find many of them are) so wouldnt they know what they are talking about? I would certainly like to think they know better than almost all football fans what they are talking about.

I see what you are saying about what Tom had surrounding him this year, but in past years he has had more than this year. Which is ironic in that this year turned out to be his best. If one were to evaluate him as a regular season QB this year would actually be his best argument to being the best, since he did what he did with less around him, but in past years with more around him than he has this year he was even further from the top stats-
wise and general performance wise in the regular season. Evaluating his overall year of QB performance based on the last year, which would be more favorable to him, would be the same as judging his playoff performance as a QB strictly on this years mediocre performance(and he was mediocre in that Denver-NE game, even you would admit this I am sure, even Plummer was slightly better, and he was also mediocre in that game)rather than considering his many past exceptional playoff performances.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Yes but his best year came this year becaused Dillon was hurt. They have relied on the running game for last year and before that they just forced Antowain Smith to run the ball, even though he sucks. And this year Tom Brady was allowed to flourish a little bit more because Belicheck was calling the plays and basically had himself as the offensive coordinator, and the plays were more of a passing type that complements Brady's ability. Tom Brady has developed more too. Some people don't realize that this was only his 6th year in the league. He had to step in right away and start winning and he did. But he wasn't completely developed as a QB. I think for the next couple years we will see Brady at his best, which is downright scary to think that winning 3 out of 4 Super Bowls wasn't his best.

[wildboy26]

Yes but his best year came this year becaused Dillon was hurt. They have relied on the running game for last year and before that they just forced Antowain Smith to run the ball, even though he sucks. And this year Tom Brady was allowed to flourish a little bit more because Belicheck was calling the plays and basically had himself as the offensive coordinator, and the plays were more of a passing type that complements Brady's ability. Tom Brady has developed more too. Some people don't realize that this was only his 6th year in the league. He had to step in right away and start winning and he did. But he wasn't completely developed as a QB. I think for the next couple years we will see Brady at his best, which is downright scary to think that winning 3 out of 4 Super Bowls wasn't his best.

Actually good point about Dillon being hurt this year, and the team going to the pass game more, I didnt really consider that too much initialy. They did balance the run and pass game more before this year than they did this year.

Still with their veteran stars on defence going down with injuries, chronic conditions, or getting older, and some of the genuis coaches of the past leaving, I am not sure if even a Brady who is only getting better will equal the Championships they had in the past. I am not saying New England has no chance of ever winning another Championship, but I dont see 3 of 4 ever happening again for them. Still it will be interesting to see if Brady does flourish even more in the coming years, which Championships or not, would be a scary thought, you are right.

[wildboy26]

Recently interviewed Angelo dropped what I would consider a hint that Orton is the starting QB next year. Good to see my prediction coming to fruition.
Anyway here are some of my predictions for next year:

1)Manning will not win a Super Bowl yet again, actually neither will the little Manning who will continue to be overhyped just because he is big Mannings brother.

2)Delhomme will take Carolina deep in the playoffs again, and will be going to the Pro Bowl again.

3)Plummer will not match his career best year this year, nor will his Broncos go as deep in the playoffs next year.

4)Palmer will not be able to duplicate his year of this past year with his injury, sadly he might never be the same after that cheap shot that knocked him out of the playoffs.

5)Not only will Grossman lose his starting job to Orton, he will leave the NFL for NFL Europe.

6)Palmer will finaly bite the bullet and leave the NFL to be a CFL starter. Montreal will trade him though since they already have Calvillo.

7)Leinart will struggle big time as a starting QB in the NFL, in his rookie year.

8)Young will not be the starter on his team at all the first year.

9)Brady will not match his stats of last year, but will have one of his top 3 years statisticaly. New England will not lose in round 1 or 2 of the playoffs, either the wild card game or the conference semis.

10)Roethlisburger will be a pro bowler for the first time but Pittsburg will not repeat as champs.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

1)Manning will not win a Super Bowl yet again, actually neither will the little Manning who will continue to be overhyped just because he is big Mannings brother.

The Colts will lose Edge in the offseason, have to sign Wayne, Doss and Tripplett to new deals, and still won't have a secondary going into next season. Eli looked pretty good for a second year starter at times last year. Tiki Barber takes the pressure off of him to make big plays. If they don't run into injury troubles this year they might've won the NFC this season.

2)Delhomme will take Carolina deep in the playoffs again, and will be going to the Pro Bowl again.

I like Delhomme, but he's not the reason the Panthers win. They have a great running game, a great defense, and Steve Smith might very well be the most dangerous offensive weapon in the league.

3)Plummer will not match his career best year this year, nor will his Broncos go as deep in the playoffs next year.

Jake Plummer coming back down to Earth, way to go against the grain with this selection:thumb:

4)Palmer will not be able to duplicate his year of this past year with his injury, sadly he might never be the same after that cheap shot that knocked him out of the playoffs.

Another bold prediction, saying a guy coming off a major injury won't be able to repeat his past years performance:rolleyes: Even that is debateable. If Palmer was Mike Vick then maybe having a bum knee would be more worrisome. He'll be mobile enough to move around in the pocket, and his arm will still be the same. Also, that wasn't a cheap shot.

5)Not only will Grossman lose his starting job to Orton, he will leave the NFL for NFL Europe.

NFL Europe:rolleyes: First of all, if the Bears did decide he needed extra playing time, he could play in NFL Europe during the offseason. Secondly, Kyle Orton was inept behind center for the Bears last season, and Grossman has the arm and mobility to be a playmaker for that Chicago offense.

6)Palmer will finaly bite the bullet and leave the NFL to be a CFL starter. Montreal will trade him though since they already have Calvillo.

I hope you mean Jesse Palmer;) Not like he's playing in the NFL anyways. Good for him if he tries to become a star North of the border.

7)Leinart will struggle big time as a starting QB in the NFL, in his rookie year.

Most rookie QBs do. Although he would be playing with a pretty good line and some solid skill players if he landed in New Orleans.

8)Young will not be the starter on his team at all the first year.

This isn't a prediction, it's a fact. He played in a shotgun-spread offense at Texas, and will have to adjust to playing from under center in a pro-style offense.

Jay Cutler will be a better QB than Leinart and Young anyways.

9)Brady will not match his stats of last year, but will have one of his top 3 years statisticaly. New England will not lose in round 1 or 2 of the playoffs, either the wild card game or the conference semis.

Well if the defense gets back up to par this season then they won't need to throw the ball as much. They'll have all their backers healthy, Harrison should be back, and they'll likely restock at some positions through the draft, so to see the defense return to a top 5 unit in the league shouldn't be shocking at all.

10)Roethlisburger will be a pro bowler for the first time but Pittsburg will not repeat as champs.

Well he's a big enough name now where he should win the popularity contest that is All-Star voting. Also, most people would probably take the field over Pittsburgh if they were choosing who would win next year's Super Bowl.

[wildboy26]

Well it looks like you atleast semi-agree with me on 8 of 10, even if for a couple varied reasons so that is pretty good I guess. :) Who do you think might win the Super Bowl next year, not neccessarily 1 prediction but who do you think has a pretty good shot?

I think Carolina or Seattle will win the NFC. I could maybe see Philadelphia or Chicago doing it though. NY Giants will have alot of hype but I dont think they will end up going all the way to the Super Bowl final.

I do think New England and Indianapolis will win their divisions again. I think that San Diego could win theirs, and Pittsburg or Cincinnati is a toss up.
I see San Diego, Pittsburg, or Cincinnati going to the Super Bowl, although since I predicted Palmer not to be as great next year after being injured, that would probably kill Cincy as a possable choice.



I hope Chad Pennington comes back and has a great year. I felt he had alot of promise a few years back, and I feel sorry that his chronic shoulder problems will probable derail what was once a promising career for good.

[wildboy26]

By the way I agree on Delhomme not being the centrepiece of Carolina, since this was a QB thread I stuck mostly to the QBs and how they would do, along with how their teams would do. I agree though that QB is not Carolina's key position, not even close.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

It's pretty early to be making Super Bowl picks. Free agency and the draft haven't taken place yet. If I were to throw two teams out there, I'd probably go with San Diego and Carolina.

The Chargers have built a nice team, and I still think they have a good amount of cap space to work with. O-line and wideout are both positions that should be addressed in the offseason. Lucky for them it's a deep year at O-line in the draft, but the wideout class is lacking and free agency doesn't look any better. There's also rumours that they could be after John Abraham. I've never been a big fan of his, but he is a great speed rusher. I wonder how he'd adjust to playing linebacker though:confused: Still, him and Merrimen would cause tons of problems for opposing QBs.

Carolina has most of their offense coming back next year. Foster is the most notable free agent on that side of the ball, but he's proven to be injury prone anyways. Nick Goings has answered the bell everytime the Panthers have needed him, and it's a pretty good year for halfbacks in the draft so they should be able to put a good running game out on the field next year. They really should look at finding a secondary receiving option to take some pressure off of Smith. Colbert doesn't look like he'll pan out to be the guy, but maybe a free agent like David Givens could be the answer. Defensively they're a very good team, but might have to replace WLB Will Witherspoon. Luckily for them, the draft this year is also plenty deep with talent at the linebacker position, so once again they should be able to restock here. Finally, if Kris Jenkins comes back healthy along with Buckner then Peppers and Rucker could have monster seasons.

[J.R.]

3)Plummer will not match his career best year this year, nor will his Broncos go as deep in the playoffs next year.This season wasn't a fluke.

And the San Diego not-so super Chargers will miss the playoffs again.

[KB in Kelowna]

I hope this thread is still here next year. I want to brag when Grossman fails to get through a year as starting QB for the 4th straight year and ends up being cut by Chicago and quitting altogether. There is no way he will stay in the sport if he is demoted to backup for good I bet.
That would be Rex Grossman of the Chicago Bears currently 4-0, who have outscored opponents 156-36. Just though I would bump this for your comment Wildboy.

[wildboy26]

Maybe he read my posts and he consprired to stick it to me this year. LOL! In all honesty though alot of Chicago articles were ripping him pre-year, and even alot of NFL football magazines. He seems to be playing with a chip on his shoulder this year and wants to really show people something so far.