NFL Offseason/Draft thread

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

With the combination of most of us watching teams other than our favs in the playoffs, coaches getting fired/hired, and the deadline for underclassmen declaring for the draft just having past we might as well start one of these threads up.

My Packers recently hired Mike McCarthy to replace Mike Sherman as head coach in Green Bay. He's a West Coast Offense guy, so system wise not much should change in Green Bay. However, I hope he's a more gutsy playcaller than Sherman was. OC and STC Tom Rossley and John Bonamego were both let go. Neither was very good in Green Bay and I'm glad to see both gone. Jim Bates is probably pissed because he didn't get the head coaching job, but McCarthy has shown interest in retaining him and I hope he returns as DC next season. It looks like Jeff Jagodzinski from Atlanta has the inside track on the new OC job. McCarthy reportedly wants a guy who can deploy a zone blocking scheme and Jag fits the bill.

It also looks like the Denver Broncos great OC Gary Kubiak will get to HC in his hometown of Houston. It'll be interesting to see what Kubiak will do with the first pick in Houston. One of the keys to success in Denver has always been an elite offensive line, and would he draft a tailback in Bush when he already has a 1000 yard rusher in Davis. I think trading down is a strong possibility, and D'Brickashaw Ferguson could end up in Houston. Ferguson won't bring as much buzz as Bush, but in the long-term it's probably a better football decision for the team.

The Eagles have given Drew Rosenhaus permission to seek a trade for Owens. The Eagles would probably settle for a mid-late round pick for Owens just so they could get something in return for him, but it's doubtful any team will bite. The Eagles will cut him this spring before his roster bonus is due, and the contract he gets in free agency will probably be worth less than the one he currently has with Philly.

[J.R.]

I hope the Broncos pick 32nd in the NFL Draft this season.

It also looks like the Denver Broncos great OC Gary Kubiak will get to HC in his hometown of Houston.It's awful news if you ask me. I've been following along all week listening to News Radio 850 KOA from Denver leading up to the game tonight and a lot of the non-game talk was about Kubiak talking with the Texans last week. It's pretty much a done deal and when the Broncos' Drive for the Championship is over, Houston will make the official annoucement and Gary with be gone. :cry:

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

The Broncos seem to be interested in Terrell Owens. It's a high risk move, but with him and their two first round picks in the upcoming draft the Broncos could be the Super Bowl favourites going into the 2006 season.

[J.R.]

Adam Schefter broke this news yesterday on the NFL Network...


He's a hell of a talent.

I know Mike Shanahan is smart enough to make the decision here. If he doesn't believe Owens will be a positive contribution on and off the field, then he sure won't be signing with or being traded to the Broncos.

Shanahan has taken a lot of criticism in the past couple years with bringing in controversial names, so he knows what he's doing.

Rice - Retired after being told he'd be the 4th string WR.
Clarett - Cut because he didn't fit in with the team scheme.
Sauerbrun - Made the team and look what he did this season.

I'm not getting excited, because anything concrete wouldn't be happening until March, when a trade could be made. If not, then the Eagles will release him and he'll be a free agent. Also the Broncos are already over the cap, so there's an issue there.

We'll see.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Yeah, I think the Broncos have some serious cap management to do. This probably means asking a couple vets to restructure or be gone. Maybe Rod Smith will be as disrespected as Muhsin Muhammad was last year. I believe Tom Nalen will be a free agent, so that could present a problem if he wants to stay in Denver. The only way Denver may be able to get TO, would be to trade someone with a fair amount of salary on their contract. We'll just have to wait and see.

[KB in Kelowna]

Anyone starting a pool on how long it takes TO to start calling out Jake Plummer in the media?

[J.R.]

Anyone starting a pool on how long it takes TO to start calling out Jake Plummer in the media?Third time is the charm, KB. :thumb:

What could be said about Plummer? That he looks like the poorest man in Colorado? Or that he lives in the mountains with sasquatch? We've heard it all before. :laughing:

Seriously though, the Broncos contract with him would be so incentive laden with clauses about behaviour and attitude, that if broken, he won't be paid. Also Shanahan doesn't take crap from players, so everything (rules, system, etc.) would be laid out in front of Owens and he would definitely be on a short leash.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

It'll also probably be a one year deal, so Owens would have to be on his best behaviour.

[leaferfan87]

It'll also probably be a one year deal, so Owens would have to be on his best behaviour.

It would be for sure and probably full of conditions that if TO starts shooting off his mouth that there would be consequences.

[THE HACK]

The thing with Owens is that he wants guaranteed money so look for a huge signing bonus to come his way.

Cheers

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

The thing with Owens is that he wants guaranteed money so look for a huge signing bonus to come his way.

Cheers

No team will give it to him. His contract with the Eagles only got him 7 million up front. A player of his calibre should be able to get more, but he had problems surrounding him coming into Philly. Now those problems are even worse, and I doubt a team will fork up lots of dough for him up front. I can't see him getting more than a one year deal with a lot of bonuses in it. That way he has to behave if he wants any chance at getting a longer term deal next offseason, and he'll have to produce like a top 3-5 wideout in the league if he wants to make big money this upcoming season.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

He has always produced like a top 3 WR. He just has the problem of opening his mouth and insults come flying out. And then there was that whole dividing up a locker room thing. He tore apart a team that was in the Super Bowl just last year. That's why he won't get money, he definitely has the skill forop WR money.

[Amoroq]

I thought the fish and the Boys had some interest as well as the Skins. I remember a few years ago that TO almost became a Skin while still with the Niners. I think he will choose to go to a team that has the best shot at the superbowl and has a QB that has no baggage. That leaves the Broncos, Fish, Boys and Skins on the outside looking in. I'm thinking the Panthers. Just a hunch.

[wildboy26]

The Broncos seem to be interested in Terrell Owens. It's a high risk move, but with him and their two first round picks in the upcoming draft the Broncos could be the Super Bowl favourites going into the 2006 season.

Jake Plummer and Terrel Owens would drive each other INSANE!! Think of those two as a pairing personality-wise, LOL!

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

The scouting combine is coming up soon. Looks like we'll get a good idea of how the draft will shape up after it's completed.

I think Darnell Bing can move up with a good workout. He's a good athlete and at the pro-level he might be every bit as good as Michael Huff out of Texas. I think he could make himself a mid-first if he tests well.

Brian Calhoun could move up high into the second round. He had a huge season for the Badgers, and didn't fumble once in around 400 carries. He recently weighed in at 202, so some of the concerns about size have also been removed. He'll probably test well with his blazing speed, and teams like the Titans, Jets, and Packers could all use some running back help and will pick early in round two.

Jay Culter will probably move into the top 10 (if he hasn't already). Some are already saying he might be the best QB out of this draft, and I can't say I disagree. He has a stronger throwing arm than Leinart. Although his mechanics aren't great, he's not nearly as bad as Young and his funny throwing motion. Also, playing in the SEC he actually played against real defenses.

D'Brickashaw Ferguson needs to have a good combine to hold his draft position. Right now everyone has him going to the Jets because they need a young LT. However, they could always not resign John Abraham and pick Mario Williams. They could also move the pick to a team that wants Cutler, Hawk or Williams. After a bad Senior Bowl week, the upcoming combine will be huge for him.

Anybody else looking forward to this?

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

LFL, I heard that Vince Young is gonna skip the combine and that could hurt his draft value. I guess that's good news to teams that need a QB but wouldn't have achance if Young was top 5. Could you imagine him slipping to 9th for the Lions??? Vince Young, Roy Williams, Mike Williams, and Kevin Jones. That's scary.

Also, let's have a looksee at the cap situations for the NFL teams.

http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/numbers.asp
For those too lazy to click:


Rank Team $ Under the Cap

1 Cleveland Browns $31 M
Considering the lack of star power in Cleveland it should come as no surprise that they are in excellent cap shape. With the well publicized front office discord that occurred at the conclusion of the season, it will be interesting to see if the team is willing to spend some money this off-season -- and if so, how will they spend it?

2 Arizona Cardinals $30 M
With all of the cap room the Cardinals have, the first thing they need to do is figure out what to do with their QB situation as both Josh McCown and Kurt Warner are set to become free agents. Of course, the Cardinals could decide to go in a different direction entirely.

3 Minnesota Vikings $24 M
Despite everything else that's gone wrong in the twin cities this year -- from ticket scalping to waving goodbye to Randy to taking trips on the love boat to watching an All Pro QB blow out his knee -- the Vikings continue to do a good job in managing their cap. With Tice gone, here's hoping that new head coach, Brad Childress, can convince ownership to spend some of that money on filling some holes -- and retaining some key free agents.

4 Green Bay Packers $22 M
The Packers are sure to endure one of the wildest off-seasons in the club's history. Will Brett Favre stay or will he go? There are a good 7 million reasons (or dollars) why he may want to come back. Even so, the Packers have plenty of cap room to bring him in some reinforcements along the OL and a quality (er, healthy) RB to boot.

5 San Diego Chargers $21 M
Give A.J. Smith credit for doing a better job of managing the cap than his mentor, the late John Butler, did. The Chargers have ample room to once again hang onto Drew Brees and Phil Rivers if they so choose.

6 Seattle Seahawks $21 M
If the Seahawks choose not to sign reigning MVP Shaun Alexander to a long term contract it won't be because they don't have the cap room to do it.

7 San Francisco 49ers $18 M
Remember when the Niners were in cap jail just a few years ago? Well, that is a thing of the past now thanks to cheap ownership. While the good news is that they won't be getting back into cap trouble, the bad news is that they are likely to be bogged down with a team loaded with inferior talent for years to come.

8 Jacksonville Jaguars $17 M
Much like the Bengals, the Jaguars are a quality young team with plenty of cap room to continue to improve the team's base corps.

9 Chicago Bears $17 M
Chicago, too, is following the trend we've seen set by good young head coaches who have placed their stamp on their teams by putting together a quality, a young roster. In case you haven't noticed, "young" also means "inexpensive".

10 Cincinnati Bengals $16 M
This number, includes Carson Palmer's contract extension, which paid out $15 M in guaranteed, up-front money and will pay him a base of $6.75 M in 2006. Clearly the Bengals, who made the playoffs this year for the first time in 15 years, have done a nice job bringing along their young talent -- and they appear to be financially strong enough to contend for a number of years.

11 St. Louis Rams $16 M
Whoever takes over for Mike Martz will at least inherit a healthy cap situation. Considering all of the holes that the Rams have to fill on defense, that money may not go as far as you think.

12 Baltimore Ravens $15 M
Despite all of the on-field problems that the Ravens had this year, they remain in good cap shape. The front office as led by Ozzie Newsome has been very prudent in not throwing too much cash at players. Case in point: only 13 players are scheduled to have a base salary exceeding $1 M. The Ravens have some questions to answer at RB, as both Jamal Lewis and Chester Taylor are set to become free agents.

13 Houston Texans $14 M
All indications are that GM Charlie Casserly will exercise the $8 M option to bring David Carr back in 2006. Maybe he should spend some of the leftover cap money on an offensive line that may be able to protect this investment.

14 Buffalo Bills $10 M
Underachieving RT (or is it LG?) Mike Williams is set to count about $10.8 M against the cap, as is veteran WR Eric Moulds. Look for the team to approach both players to take a paycut. Kudos to Robert Balistreri, who has done a master job of tracking the Bills' cap situation. Check out his excellent website here.

15 New Orleans Saints $10 M
There are so many question marks surround the poor New Orleans Saints, that we do not wish to add to that any further here. Whoever the new head coach is going to be will be inheriting a pretty good roster and a decent cap situation, which may even get better if the team elects to release Aaron Brooks, who is set to makeover $6M in base salary in 2006. The flip side of the coin is that the team has some quality free agents (such as Darren Howard) that they must try to re-sign.

16 Detroit Lions $9 M
Assuming the Fords do not cave to fan pressure and continue to mark time with Matt Millen, the Lions head into the off-season in pretty decent cap shape. Interestingly, the player set to receive the biggest series of paychecks in 2006 is none other than Joey Harrington, whose future with the team remains in doubt.

17 Philadelphia Eagles $7 M
Once each team's cap is properly adjusted to account for likely to be earned bonus money that was accounted for against the 2005 cap -- but never actually awarded to the player(s) -- you can fully expect the Eagles to have a great deal more cap room. After all, they've been playing this little trick for years. Also, it's no secret by now that they will be releasing TO in the coming weeks. Of course, with the unamortized portion of his original $10 M signing bonus escalating against the cap, that may not be a cap saver.

18 NY Giants $3 M
The Giants should have plenty of options when it comes to freeing up some cap space. For example, with so many big time skill position players, guess which player will have the highest base salary in 2006. Eli? Not even close. What about Tiki? Nope. Mike Strahan you ask? Wrong answer! Believe it or not, the NY Giant with the highest base salary heading into 2006 is Luke Petitgout!

19 Dallas Cowboys $2 M
The Cowboys learned the hard way how a once-proud championship team can crumble overnight due to the restrictions of the salary cap. They appear to be heading into 2006 in pretty good shape.

20 New England Patriots $0
The Patriots have done such a fantastic job picking late in the draft every year that they haven't had to rely on overpaying free agents. Bill Belichick also seems to have a nose for knowing when to release his high priced veterans at just the right time.

21 Indianapolis Colts $0
The Colts will once again have to make a decision about what to do with Edgerrin James. Since he's guaranteed to make 20% more than he did last year, it is highly unlikely that GM Bill Polian and the Colts will be able to absorb that price tag, as they are right at the projected cap marker. The question is whether or not they'll consider giving him a long-term contract.

22 Carolina Panthers $-1000000
If you recall, two years ago, right after the Panthers' Super Bowl season, they found themselves in some cap trouble. They took their medicine then -- and suffered through a tough 2004 season. A year later, they've managed to catapult back into the playoffs and have their cap situation in a manageable situation.

23 Pittsburgh Steelers $-4 M
The Steelers cap condition is not as bad as it appears. For example, all indications are that Jerome Bettis will be calling it quits at the end of this season. The Bus is scheduled to make a little over $5.35 M in base salary alone in 2006.

24 Miami Dolphins $-5 M
Yes, the Dolphins are projected to be a bit over the cap heading into 2006. However, it's a far cry from last season, where they were so far over that they had to go on a frenzy cutting veteran players. A few prudent moves should easily get them where they need to be, although we don't expect them to be highly active in free agency.

25 Tampa Bay Buccaneers $-8 M
The Bucs ended the regular season with the #1 defense in the NFL. Small wonder, then, that 6 of the 7 highest paid players on the team heading into 2006 play on the defensive side of the ball. That 7th player, Brian Griese, could very well become a cap casualty, considering the emergence of Chris Simms. Of course, the team must make a decision on Simms too, as he is set to become a restricted free agent in March.

26 Atlanta Falcons $-9.908 M
The Falcons have one of the best defensive front-sevens in the NFL -- and they pay dearly for it, as five of their top eight players are either linebacker or defensive linemen. In fact, their three highest paid players heading into 2006 are DL Patrick Kerney (almost $5 M base), LB Keith Brooking, and DL Roderick Coleman.

27 Tennessee Titans $-10 M
The poor Titans had to do so much house cleaning last year that they were left with a severely undermanned squad in 2005. From the looks of things, there will be more cost cutting to do in 2006.

28 Washington Redskins $-20 M
As usual the Redskins look to be one of the primary offenders heading into the new year. The team's tendency to rework contracts over and over again has made them a poster child for the "mortgage the future for today" mantra. A good case in point is Lavar Arrington, whose base salary in 2006 jumps from $545 K to $2 M. And that doesn't even count a huge roster bonus he is set to earn.

29 Kansas City Chiefs $-22 M
With the Chiefs in clear cap trouble, we find it interesting that the new head coach appears to be Herm Edwards, who just happens to be leaving the team with arguably the worst cap situation in the NFL.

30 Denver Broncos $-26 M
The Broncos were built to win in 2005 -- as their precarious cap situation heading into next season isn't pretty.

31 NY Jets $-29 M
Obviously the Jets are really in bad shape here. If the team elects to keep Chad Pennington, they will have to fork over a $3M roster bonus. With a $6 M base salary -- and nearly $4M in this year's bonus proration -- they clearly cannot afford to keep him under the existing contract. However, it will cost them (cap-wise) about $10 M just to cut him. And they can forget about franchising John Abraham again. Expect the cost-cutting to begin soon. No wonder Herm Edwards wants to head to Kansas City!

32 Oakland Raiders $-30 M
Didn't we go through this drill last year, when the Raiders were in such bad cap shape that they almost couldn't afford to cut anybody? Last year Rich Gannon came to the rescue by reworking his contract to get the team under the cap -- and then retiring. Who will help out this year?

[J.R.]

It's about time they get rid of the cap. Hopefully with a new CBA, it'll be gone.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Why??? Because the Broncos are one of the teams that will need some serious cooperation from their players to stay competitive next season??? The cap should stay because it keeps all teams that know how manage the cap competitive and levels the playing ground. Otherwise the NFC East would just suck up the most of best players with them having the wealthiest franchises, I believe.

[leaferfan87]

Interesting. I didn't realize that despite their free agent signings last year that the Vikings still have alot of cap room left.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Interesting. I didn't realize that despite their free agent signings last year that the Vikings still have alot of cap room left.

Well they will definitely benefit from the LTBE loophole that the league has. Culpepper and Birk were both probably guys who had LTBE incentives on last years cap number, and because of injury neither of them achieved those. So that dead cap space will be added to next season's cap figure for the Vikings.

[KB in Kelowna]

It's about time they get rid of the cap. Hopefully with a new CBA, it'll be gone.

I thought the cap and revenue sharing where two hallmarks of the success and vitality of the NFL? I am confused.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

It's about time they get rid of the cap. Hopefully with a new CBA, it'll be gone.

If a Leaf fan were to say something like this in a hockey thread during the lockout you'd be all over them:rolleyes:

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

LFL, I heard that Vince Young is gonna skip the combine and that could hurt his draft value. I guess that's good news to teams that need a QB but wouldn't have achance if Young was top 5. Could you imagine him slipping to 9th for the Lions??? Vince Young, Roy Williams, Mike Williams, and Kevin Jones. That's scary.

You forgot Charles Rodgers too;)

It'd definitely be exciting for Detroit if Young were to get drafted there. Especially with Mike Martz coming in as the OC. They'd have to get a veteran QB though. Young would be best served to sit on the bench for a year or two.

I still think he'll land with the Titans because I don't see who else they'd select in that spot. Maybe Ferguson to sure up LT for the next decade? I guess Mario Williams or A.J. Hawk could sneak into that spot if they were happy with Volek taking over for McNair when he retires.

If he does drop out of the top 3 the Jets would probably be jumping for joy. I don't think they see Chad Pennington as their QB of the future, and Young would bring a lot of excitement to the Big Apple.

Although, lots of teams would probably try to trade up with the Jets. Oakland, Detroit, Arizona, and Miami are all teams that would be in the market for a young QB. Originally I didn't think Miami would be in this race, but with Jay Culter in the top 10 now (likely) they'll have to move up if they want a QB to build a franchise around.

[J.R.]

If a Leaf fan were to say something like this in a hockey thread during the lockout you'd be all over them:rolleyes:
This isn't a hockey discussion, it's professional football, which doesn't need a salary cap to survive.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

This isn't a hockey discussion, it's professional football, which doesn't need a salary cap to survive.

Teams like Dallas, New York, Washington, Denver, and Oakland would have a large advantage over most of the league.

[PDO]

This isn't a hockey discussion, it's professional football, which doesn't need a salary cap to survive.

Greenbay begs to differ.

The cap is necessary, otherwise you'll see the Raiders, Cowboys and a few others shill out literally 5 times as much money as the Packers. Competitive balance is necessary, and I pray that the cap stays.

[J.R.]

Teams like Dallas, New York, Washington, Denver, and Oakland would have a large advantage over most of the league.
However, you can't name a team that isn't profitable every season.

[PDO]

However, you can't name a team that isn't profitable every season.

How long does Greenbay stay profitable if salaries escalate by 300% because of no cap?

[KB in Kelowna]

However, you can't name a team that isn't profitable every season.

That is because of revenue sharing, a team's lack of success on the feild is a result of personel decisions and coaching not based on buying winners, please see the Cincinatti Bengals of the 1990's or Arizona Cardinals as examples. The NFL has had revenue sharing in one form or another since the 1960's, read some of the obits for Wellington Mara to verfiy this.

[MadDevil]

I was listening to KFAN 1130 out of Minneapolis/St. Paul this morning, and according to a reasonably reliable source, the Vikings are reportedly shopping QB Daunte Culpepper. According to the station, they are possibly interested in Jamal Lewis from Baltimore, or even as little as a 2nd round pick in return for Culpepper.

Keep in mind this is nothing more than a rumor, and I don't know how valid it really is. I certainly hope this is nothing more than a rumor because I think the Vikings could potentially get screwed over royally. Culpepper's stock is at an all-time low, especially coming off a potentially career-threatening knee injury, so why they would trade him now is beyond me.

The only thing I can think is that Culpepper does not want to play in Minnesota anymore, and he approached the team about being moved. Even then, I would wait to see how he plays coming off of rehab before I dealt him.

This might be something to keep an eye on...

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Isn't Lewis about to become a FA??? Why would the Vikings do that if they could just sign him in a couple months anyway??? I don't thinkthey need to worry about RB personally. They drafted Ciatrick Fason last year and I think that he might be able to carry part of the load for the Minnesota running game along with Mewelde Moore. Or maybe they could draft on of the RBs in this upcoming draft. But to trade for Lewis would make no sensebecause he isn't exactly all-star material as of right now.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

The draft is deep enough in running backs this year that the Vikes could find a guy to tandem with Fason on the first day.

Lewis makes no sense at all.

[MadDevil]

The thing about it is that really no matter who they get at RB, it won't matter if the offensive line is as horrid as it was last year. I think the line should be a bigger priority than a RB, especially considering there will be several available with Lewis (never been a big fan of his), Alexander (the perfect guy IMO, but good luck getting him to come to Minnesota), James, and whoever else may be available. Or like you both said they could get one through the draft. Not to mention running backs are easier to find than solid linemen.

About the Culpepper rumor, it doesn't make much sense to me either. But if Childress doesn't think Culpepper can run the offense, or if he asks to be traded, I could see him being moved. I'd rather they wait until he's healthy so they could get something more than a RB or anything lower than a 1st round pick in return. His trade value is the lowest it's ever been.

It is amazing though if you've listened to Vikings fans the last couple of years. It seems like after every loss, Culpepper was the first person a lot of them blamed, even if it wasn't his fault. There's kind of a love/hate relationship between the fans and Culpepper, and I think he feels a bit underappreciated in Minnesota, which could lead to him asking to be dealt.

Oh well, I guess we'll just have to see what ends up happening...

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Yeah, I know that McNabb seems to have the same kind of reputation around here. If the team wins, the offense and defense was great. If the team loses, McNabb should have played better. That's what it sometimes boils down to and you should here the criticism he has gotten from Eagles fans this offseason because of the horrid season that the Eagles had. People are blaming McNabb even though he got 4 of the 6 wins this season while being severely hurt. Some people even think that had he gotten the surgery sooner we would have won more games and had a shot at the playoffs. Some people like to act like the draft booing of McNabb is long ago history, but every time he has a mediocre game there are about a million people ready to criticize and trade DMac.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Updated: March 1, 2006, 1:50 PM ET
Salary cap status of all 32 teamsBy John Clayton
ESPN.com


Below is the amount of money each team is under or over the $92 million salary cap as of March 1. The current list of cap numbers does not include the salaries of restricted and exclusive-rights players. When teams find out what the value of those tenders will be, the cap number is expected to be adjusted before Thursday, adding $1 million or $2 million to the total number for each team.

Please note, this list will change rapidly as teams begin cutting players over the next day to get under the salary cap by Thursday's 4 p.m. ET deadline (4 ET is the end of the NFL's business day, and no player can be cut after the close of business).


Under the salary cap
Team Cap status (under)
Minnesota Vikings $24 million
Arizona Cardinals $21.8 million
Cleveland Browns $21.5 million
Green Bay Packers $21 million
San Francisco 49ers $17.4 million
San Diego Chargers $17.1 million
Jacksonville Jaguars $14.2 million
Philadelphia Eagles $14.2 million
Baltimore Ravens $11.9 million
Detroit Lions $10.6 million
St. Louis Rams $10.6 million
Seattle Seahawks $9.5 million
Cincinnati Bengals $9 million
New Orleans Saints $8.2 million
Chicago Bears $7.8 million
Houston Texans $4 million
New York Giants $3.3 million
Buffalo Bills $2 million
New England Patriots $1.5 million


Over the salary cap
Team Cap status (over)
Oakland Raiders $26 million
Miami Dolphins $21.9 million
Kansas City Chiefs $20.7 million
Tennessee Titans $18.7 million
Washington Redskins $17 million
Denver Broncos $16.4 million
Carolina Panthers $12.7 million
Atlanta Falcons $11.7 million
New York Jets $11.1 million
Indianapolis Colts $9.4 million
Tampa Bay Buccaneers $8.7 million
Pittsburgh Steelers $7 million
Dallas Cowboys $1.2 million


John Clayton is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.


Just some updated numbers for everyone to chew on. Almost every team seems to have jumped up with some cuts that have happened since those last numbers were posted along with some kinds of renegotiations. But the ball is already starting to roll with cuts as the Bills have let go of DT Sam Adams. There have a couple other cuts to save space but no other big names so far. Potential cuts that I've heard about include Will Shields, Trevor Pryce, Warrick Dunn, Peter Boulware, and Marshall Faulk. Bu with some teams so high over the cap so close to the deadline renegotiations probably won't be the answer as we've seen so many other times.

[leaferfan87]

The thing about it is that really no matter who they get at RB, it won't matter if the offensive line is as horrid as it was last year. I think the line should be a bigger priority than a RB, especially considering there will be several available with Lewis (never been a big fan of his), Alexander (the perfect guy IMO, but good luck getting him to come to Minnesota), James, and whoever else may be available. Or like you both said they could get one through the draft. Not to mention running backs are easier to find than solid linemen.

About the Culpepper rumor, it doesn't make much sense to me either. But if Childress doesn't think Culpepper can run the offense, or if he asks to be traded, I could see him being moved. I'd rather they wait until he's healthy so they could get something more than a RB or anything lower than a 1st round pick in return. His trade value is the lowest it's ever been.

It is amazing though if you've listened to Vikings fans the last couple of years. It seems like after every loss, Culpepper was the first person a lot of them blamed, even if it wasn't his fault. There's kind of a love/hate relationship between the fans and Culpepper, and I think he feels a bit underappreciated in Minnesota, which could lead to him asking to be dealt.

Oh well, I guess we'll just have to see what ends up happening...

Zigy says he isn't going anywhere.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2341755

There is a list of the possible cuts that are to be made. The bolded names have already been cut. There are quite a few players that I would like to see the Eagles go after if they are cut. Derrick Brooks is a big name that stands out, but I don't think the Bucs will let him go.

[leaferfan87]

Haha...I see the Vikings list of potentials include two OL, as if we needed to make the OL worse than it was last season.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Tight End Vernon Davis ran a 4.38:eek:

[MadDevil]

Haha...I see the Vikings list of potentials include two OL, as if we needed to make the OL worse than it was last season.

Daunte Culpepper is also listed as a possible, which makes absolutely no sense to me...

I agree about the OL, or should I say complete lack of one last season. They have enough problems without cutting two at least decent linemen.

[J.R.]

Potential cuts that I've heard about include Will Shields, Trevor Pryce, Warrick Dunn, Peter Boulware, and Marshall Faulk.Trevor Pryce along with Mike Anderson and tight end Jeb Putzier were released by the Broncos today. Pryce was awesome on defence, Anderson was a horse in the backfield and Putzier was had great hands in the red zone. I liked them all, but know that there is enough depth on both sides of the ball to fill in for them (especially RB & TE). Now I wonder how high Tatum Bell will go in fantasy drafts.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

The cuts won't hurt the Broncos one bit. Bell will be a more than capable starter. Putzier and Pryce can be replaced with the teams two first round picks in the upcoming draft.

The Dolphins cut four. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2350370

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Madison is a pretty big cut. Not sure how he faired last season and I'm too lazy to go look it up but I know he has been consistently mentioned among the top 5 corners in the league.

Also, Vikings fans probably won't be seeing their team make too many cuts considering they are 24 million under the cap. The only way I see them cutting some of their O-line is if there are better options out there after "Bloody Thursday" is over with.

[leaferfan87]

Also, Vikings fans probably won't be seeing their team make too many cuts considering they are 24 million under the cap. The only way I see them cutting some of their O-line is if there are better options out there after "Bloody Thursday" is over with.

Anything would be better than the Vikings O-line last year. Hopefully with this cap room they can go address those needs.

[J.R.]

Dun, dun, dun...

Gene Upshaw has been telling agents to be prepared for the 2007 season to not have a salary cap. It's unlikely they'll get an extension by March 3rd.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2343073

If this happens expect the Washington Redskins to become the New York Yankees in 60 seconds.

[leaferfan87]

Dun, dun, dun...

Gene Upshaw has been telling agents to be prepared for the 2007 season to not have a salary cap. It's unlikely they'll get an extension by March 3rd.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2343073

If this happens expect the Washington Redskins to become the New York Yankees in 60 seconds.

I thought Al Davis already had that Steinbrenner reputation?

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

I thought Al Davis already had that Steinbrenner reputation?

Davis, Synder, Jones...they can all be Steinbrenners:burning:

[wildboy26]

Where do you guys think Brees will end up? I am surprised he is not staying in San Diego.

[J.R.]

Where do you guys think Brees will end up? I am surprised he is not staying in San Diego.
Phillip Rivers leading the not-so-super Chargers? Ha-ha-ha, I love it. Management in San Diego continues to suck. After suspending Gates last season, I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up trading Tomlinson for a third round pick.

Brees in Minnesota. That is if they get rid of Culpepper.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Brees will end up in Miami if his messed up shoulder works out good.

[wildboy26]

Also where will Young and Leinart end up?

[Amoroq]

Dun, dun, dun...

Gene Upshaw has been telling agents to be prepared for the 2007 season to not have a salary cap. It's unlikely they'll get an extension by March 3rd.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2343073

If this happens expect the Washington Redskins to become the New York Yankees in 60 seconds.That would be sweet :)

[MadDevil]

Brees in Minnesota. That is if they get rid of Culpepper.

Which most likely won't happen...at least this year. It doesn't make much sense for the Vikings to deal Culpepper now, with his trade value at an all time low. They have no leverage at all in terms of getting a reasonable return IMO.

Miami is a more likely destination, but who knows...

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Also where will Young and Leinart end up?

Leinart will go second to New Orleans. I don't have much doubt about that one. There's questions about his arm strength and the fact that he played with an All-American supporting cast in a conference that doesn't allow defense:laughing: However, he has won a lot of games, has made some big throws, and has played in a pro-style offense at USC that past few years. He's the most polished QB prospect going into the draft, and should start from day one with the Saints.

Most had Young going third to the Titans after his Rose Bowl performance. There was the McNair connection and the team needs a young QB to groom as the next starter. Since then the stock of the Texas QB has dropped. There's lots of questions about his throwing mechanics, questions about whether or not he can work from under center, and questions about his intelligence after his score of six on the Wonderlic test got leaked. Also, there's rumours that Norm Chow doesn't think Young is capable of running his offense. This opens the door for Jay Cutler, Mario Williams, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, and A.J. Hawk to slide into the 3rd spot. If the Titans decide to go with Cutler then the Jets will jump on Young with the fourth pick. There is the strong chance though, that Mario Williams could slide into that spot. He's seen his stock rise even more with a good combine, and might be the best defensive prospect to come out of college since Julius Peppers. Freakish size, freakish athleticism. Defensive ends like him don't grow on trees. LT Ferguson would also be a pick of great value in the third spot. With a good pro day Young could see his stock rise again, but even if it doesn't he doesn't slide out of the top ten with Oakland, Detroit and Arizona picking.

[leaferfan87]

Phillip Rivers leading the not-so-super Chargers? Ha-ha-ha, I love it. Management in San Diego continues to suck. After suspending Gates last season, I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up trading Tomlinson for a third round pick.

Brees in Minnesota. That is if they get rid of Culpepper.

Hey J.R. the guy wasn't drafted fourth overall for nothing! He has talent and two years learning from Drew Brees isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Hey J.R. the guy wasn't drafted fourth overall for nothing! He has talent and two years learning from Drew Brees isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Everything is bad for the "not-so-super Chargers". If you didn't realize that by now, you are clearly bias.:rolleyes:

[Amoroq]

LaVar Arrington is a FA :(

Packers re-sign Ahman Green to one-year deal.

Shaun Alexander signed - $62 million over eight years.

Denver cuts loose Mike Anderson, Trevor Pryce and Jeb Putzier.

Carolina released Rod Smart, Stephen Davis and Brentson Buckner.

Houston parted with Tony Banks, Marcus Coleman and Tony Hollings.

Buffalo dropped defensive veterans Sam Adams and Lawyer Milloy plus tight end Mark Campbell.

Miami cut Damion McIntosh and Sam Madison.

Steelers released quarterback Tommy Maddox, safety Mike Logan, safety Russell Stuvaints and cornerback Willie Williams.

The St. Louis Rams reportedly cut wide receiver Isaac Bruce.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

I would love to see the Eagles look into Isaac Bruce, LaVar Arrington, and Sam Adams.

Plus, we are supposed to sign LeCharles Bentley as soon as free agency starts.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Bentley would be an awesome signing for the Eagles. Versatile interior linemen entering the prime of his career. Steve Hutchinson will get a lot of attention because the Seahawks only transition tagged him (I think), but Bentley could wind up giving a team the best bang for their buck this offseason.

After what happened this past season, I'm not shocked to see Arrington cut by the Skins. He was a big ticket player, and Gibbs at times had no interest at working him into the rotation. He's an amazing talent though, and will land on his feet somewhere. Julian Peterson is the only other linebacker in the free agent class that's in his league, and even he's a questionable player since he didn't look great coming off of his achilles tendon injury from 04. Will Witherspoon is another OLB that'll get a lot of play. I hope the Packers make a run at him. We're keeping Bates' scheme, so a fast linebacker like him should be able to excel.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Looks like Javon Walker is done in Green Bay. If he recovers, some team is gonna get one hell of a wide receiver.

[THE HACK]

Owners and players have agreed to a 6 yr extension on the CBA and this yrs cap will be at $102 mill!:thumb:

Free agency begins tonight!:boogie:

Cheers

[leaferfan87]

Owners and players have agreed to a 6 yr extension on the CBA and this yrs cap will be at $102 mill!:thumb:

Free agency begins tonight!:boogie:

Cheers

Good news. The last thing that the league needed was a strike, and they've been the sport that's actually been good about not having strikes.

[KB in Kelowna]

Good news. The last thing that the league needed was a strike, and they've been the sport that's actually been good about not having strikes.

Gene Upshaw was on record saying there would have been football (no stike in 06 and 07) it was after that he couldn't garauntee. So there is a new cap, revenue sharing and football.

[THE HACK]

Bad news for some of you,LeCharles Bentley has signed with the Cleveland Browns.More details later!

Cheers

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Bad news for some of you,LeCharles Bentley has signed with the Cleveland Browns.More details later!

Cheers

If by chance LeCharles Bentley is gunned down by a mysterious figure, I was with PDO the whole time.

[Amoroq]

Brandon Loyd is a Redskin, traded from the niners for a 3rd in 2006 and a 4th in 2007. I can live with this. :)

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Lloyd has some of the best hands in the league. You're gonna love him, Amo.

[Amoroq]

Lloyd has some of the best hands in the league. You're gonna love him, Amo.Oh I do, Moss down one side and Loyd down the other, now all they need is a consitent Qb to get them the ball!!

[THE HACK]

Brandon Loyd is a Redskin, traded from the niners for a 3rd in 2006 and a 4th in 2007. I can live with this. :)

My goodness,this is a steal of epic proportions by the Redskins!My bro is a 49ers fan and is in shock threatning to destroy all his 49ers belongings.This trade is so bad for the 49ers and I was actually looking forward to seeing LLoyd and Alex Smith grow together and form a good offensive touch along the lines of Montana-Rice or Young-Owens.Anyways the Redskins now have themselves a new highlight reel reciever!

My Cowboys on the other hand have signed Detroit offensive lineman Kyle Kosier to a 5yr $15 mil deal!Hope this doesn't mean the end of Larry Allen in Big D!

Cheers

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Kosier can play guard and tackle, so they'll probably use him on the outside while Allen is still in Dallas.

[leaferfan87]

- The Cardinals have signed Edgerrin James to a 4 year, $30 million contract with the Arizona Cardinals

- The Washington Redskins have signed Antwaan Randle-El

[Amoroq]

- The Cardinals have signed Edgerrin James to a 4 year, $30 million contract with the Arizona Cardinals

- The Washington Redskins have signed Antwaan Randle-ElWow! Moss/Loyd/Antwaan!! Very nice.

[Amoroq]

NFL.com is reporting that Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Antwaan Randle-El, San Francisco 49ers defensive end Andre Carter, St. Louis Rams safety Adam Archuleta and Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Todd Collins have scheduled visits to Washington. The Redskins do not typically announce player visits.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

NFL.com is reporting that Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Antwaan Randle-El, San Francisco 49ers defensive end Andre Carter, St. Louis Rams safety Adam Archuleta and Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Todd Collins have scheduled visits to Washington. The Redskins do not typically announce player visits.

I know that they cut loose Arrington's ontract but how much more money do they have to spend until they hit the cap?

But to talk about the Eagles, I am severely disappointed so far. We signed Shawn Barber and let LeCharles Bentley get away. We are supposed to have all this money to spend and so far the FO has done nothing. They better make a move soon, because they really need to improve some parts of the team.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

I was wondering that about the Redskins too. Lloyd will get a decent paycheck, and Randel-El will get grossly overpaid by someone, so if the 'Skins want him it'll cost a ton.

[Amoroq]

Antwans deal is 7 years that could be worth 31 mil. The Redskins also just signed TE Christian Fauria.

[PDO]

Indy's run is over before it ever began :nod:

Ravens sign Pryce..

Not even sure where he'll fit in, really.. I'd much rather see the more glaring needs addressed (QB, RB).

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

He's versatile enough to play inside and out. So he should be a guy that gets into the regular rotation on the D-line. Maybe they might use him a bit at OLB too, but he hasn't had a double digit sack season in years.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

That glaring need of RB was assessed as the Ravens have just signed Mike Anderson. You just need more of a long term fix in the system though. Anderson won't cut it after this year and may not be all that good outside of the Denver system.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

I think they'll draft a RB at some point to pair with Anderson.

[J.R.]

PDO's team is quickly becoming the Baltimore former Broncos.

Re the Denver Broncos, still no splash on the free agent market (could be holding out for a deal with Eagles for T.O.), but they have been busy re-signing several key players including centre Tom Nalen (YES!), OL Matt Lepsis and RB Ron Dayne.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

OK, seriously the Redskins need to stop. They signed Adam Archuleta. He's way overrated but still good. Hopefully they overpaid for him too.

But now for the good news, the Eagles signed DE Darren Howard. Hopefully Howard and Kearse could combine to be one of the feared DE duos in the league. And Trent Cole coming off the bench again for pass rush situations would be nice to see after the pressure he was creating last year. Hopefully, Mike Patterson has matured too, this could be the solution that the D-line needs.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Liam, I think you'll be happy to hear that the Eagles are going after my boy Javon Walker. Rumour has it that the Eagles are offering Thomas and a 3rd. The pick I like, but I'm not that big on Thomas. I'd rather just get another pick along with the 3rd, or a 2nd for Walker straight up.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Yeah, I know that the Eagles were going after him, but until we get him, I'm not gonna get all giddy. I'm still pissed that we let LeCharles Bentley walk right out on us. Only gettin Javon Walker would make up for that, IMO.

[leaferfan87]

Yeah, I know that the Eagles were going after him, but until we get him, I'm not gonna get all giddy. I'm still pissed that we let LeCharles Bentley walk right out on us. Only gettin Javon Walker would make up for that, IMO.

Yeah I heard that Bentley had some sort of verbal agreement with you guys and then backed off? The Howard signing is a good one, if I understand correctly the Eagles had alot of pass rush problems.

But, all it comes down to for the Eagles is that #1 WR. We all know their achilles heel before T.O. was no #1 WR. Walker would fill that void nicely and I don't think he's as much of a locker room pain either.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Yeah I heard that Bentley had some sort of verbal agreement with you guys and then backed off? The Howard signing is a good one, if I understand correctly the Eagles had alot of pass rush problems.

But, all it comes down to for the Eagles is that #1 WR. We all know their achilles heel before T.O. was no #1 WR. Walker would fill that void nicely and I don't think he's as much of a locker room pain either.

Yeah, there were reports everywhere that the only reason Bentley wasn't an Eagle was because free agency hadn't started yet. He supposed visited the Eagles and was about to agree and then the Browns came out of nowhere with a better offer and that's where he went. Cleveland is also his hometown apparently.

As for TO and Walker, is anyone as much of a locker room pain as TO. The man singlehandedly tore apart a Superbowl team.

[swflyers25]

Iggles are doing a great job of signing no one they talked about signing.

Randle El heading to the Deadskins
Bentley going to the Browns

Good job Mr. Banner, keep it up.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

If they signed Randle El, I would have flipped. We have enough #3 WRs as it is. Lewis, Pinkston, and Brown fill that role fine. Randle El would just be a third WR that can possibly throw a couple trick passes.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Yet be paid like a starting receiver, who can get hurt at any given time since he plays on special teams.

[Amoroq]

Yet be paid like a starting receiver, who can get hurt at any given time since he plays on special teams.You do realise the deal could be worth 31 mil, not is worth 31 mil? IMO if he makes the whole 31 mil, then that means he was huge.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

You do realise the deal could be worth 31 mil, not is worth 31 mil? IMO if he makes the whole 31 mil, then that means he was huge.

Yep I know that. Most NFL contracts are like that. It all depends on what his signing bonus (I haven't checked) is like.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Tightwad Ted continues to do nothing with his 30+ million dollars of cap space. I try to be patient, but at least give me some hope. In 15 months this team has just continued to get worse. To make things worse, it looks like Mario Williams won't last until the fifth pick, and knowing Ted he'll go with the value pick in Ferguson (even though we don't need a LT) instead of drafting a guy like Hawk.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Brees signs a six year deal in New Orleans.

Miami trades a second rounder for Culpepper.

This should change the outlook of the draft a bit. Saints might trade down for more picks, or stay where they're at and pick Williams or Ferguson.

[leaferfan87]

Brees signs a six year deal in New Orleans.

Miami trades a second rounder for Culpepper.

This should change the outlook of the draft a bit. Saints might trade down for more picks, or stay where they're at and pick Williams or Ferguson.

The Vikings had better be talking to a team about moving up in the draft at this point, we need a QB!

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

The Vikings had better be talking to a team about moving up in the draft at this point, we need a QB!

I've heard the Saints are shopping the pick and the Vikes might be interested. It would make sense since the Saints have filled their QB need, and Leinart is the only NFL ready QB in the draft.

[J.R.]

Brees signs a six year deal in New Orleans.

Miami trades a second rounder for Culpepper. I was one half correct.

It would make sense since the Saints have filled their QB need, and Leinart is the only NFL ready QB in the draft.I think Vince Young is ready. Although Leinhart has been running a pro-style offence at Southern California and Young hasn't, he's strong enough to take over the reigns of an NFL team and believe me he'll be a lot more successful than Alex Smith in his rookie campaign.

Now talk of T.O. to Dallas. That might actually work with Bill Parcells calling the shots.

[swflyers25]

QB Garcia agrees to deal with Eagles

TSN.ca Staff with ESPN files

3/15/2006 1:45:38 PM

Two of Terrell Owens' most notable targets of criticism will be quarterbacking the Philadelphia Eagles next season.

ESPN reports that the team has agreed to a contract with veteran pivot Jeff Garcia. The move reunites Garcia with Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg from their days together with the San Francisco 49ers.

After five seasons with San Francisco, Garcia was released by the 49ers in 2003 due to salary cap issues, and signed a contract with the Cleveland Browns.

Like new teammate Donovan McNabb, Garcia was no stranger to controversy thanks to the outspoken Owens.

In the summer of 2004, Garcia was forced to fend off allegations of homosexuality made by his former 49ers teammate in an interview Owens gave for Playboy magazine.

He was released by the Browns after the 2004 season and played for the Detroit Lions in 2005 as a backup and part-time starter.

Garcia started his professional career as a backup to Doug Flutie with the Calgary Stampeders in the CFL. After Flutie was traded to the Toronto Argonauts, Garcia took over as starting quarterback. He led the Calgary Stampeders to a Grey Cup in 1998.

TSN (http://tsn.ca/nfl/news_story.asp?id=158692)

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Thomson does something!!!!!

Ryan Pickett is a Packer :)

[KB in Kelowna]

QB Garcia agrees to deal with Eagles

TSN.ca Staff with ESPN files

3/15/2006 1:45:38 PM

Two of Terrell Owens' most notable targets of criticism will be quarterbacking the Philadelphia Eagles next season.

ESPN reports that the team has agreed to a contract with veteran pivot Jeff Garcia. The move reunites Garcia with Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg from their days together with the San Francisco 49ers.

After five seasons with San Francisco, Garcia was released by the 49ers in 2003 due to salary cap issues, and signed a contract with the Cleveland Browns.

Like new teammate Donovan McNabb, Garcia was no stranger to controversy thanks to the outspoken Owens.

In the summer of 2004, Garcia was forced to fend off allegations of homosexuality made by his former 49ers teammate in an interview Owens gave for Playboy magazine.

He was released by the Browns after the 2004 season and played for the Detroit Lions in 2005 as a backup and part-time starter.

Garcia started his professional career as a backup to Doug Flutie with the Calgary Stampeders in the CFL. After Flutie was traded to the Toronto Argonauts, Garcia took over as starting quarterback. He led the Calgary Stampeders to a Grey Cup in 1998.

TSN (http://tsn.ca/nfl/news_story.asp?id=158692)

Obviously TO is never coming back. And to think you had him as part of your signature in 2004 :laughing:

[swflyers25]

Obviously TO is never coming back. And to think you had him as part of your signature in 2004 :laughing:

That I did.

The TO "error" in Philly is done with thank god. :laughing:

[J.R.]

That I did.

The TO "error" in Philly is done with thank god. :laughing:
Are you excited to begin the Jeff Garcia era? :rollover2

:wicked:

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Garcia should be a good backup. And he already knows most of the offense having played for Mooch for much of his career.

[THE HACK]

The TO "error" in Philly is done with thank god. :laughing:

Looks like it could be beginning in Dallas as rumours have Owens agreeing to a 3yr deal with the Cowboys.If true I really have mixed emotions about this as I believe Owens is the best wide receiver in the game but he's also a disruptive prick.Add onto the fact that I loved Keyshawn Johnson and what he brought to the Cowboys that I'm pissed that my team released basically the heart and soul of the Cowboys offense.There is a chance that Keyshawn could sign back with the Cowboys put thats unlikely and he'll sorely be missed!:cry:

Cheers

[PDO]

And the best kicker in the league... and one of the best of all time; just signed in Indy. Vinatieri (sp?). Weird.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Also, in a series of trades the Falcons managed to get John Abraham from the Jets. This kinda worries me, I mean Abraham is good, but he is pretty overrated. He's a pure sacker that has had some good supporting cast around him to cover up for his weakness in run defense.

And Seattle signed the extremely good Julian Peterson. This guy is a stud but suffered from an Achilles injury. If he can get back to his form before the injury, this Seattle defense just got a whole lot better.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Packers signed Ben Taylor from the Browns. Don't know a lot about the guy, but he did get 100+ tackles for them last year as an ILB. Should play SAM for the Packers next year. Looks like a stopgap, while Brady Poppinga recovers from his knee injury.

Bill Cunduff was brought in as well. His leg should help on kickoffs, but he'll only be an average placekicker. Hopefully the Packers bring in another leg to compete for the placekicking job.

[leaferfan87]

Also, in a series of trades the Falcons managed to get John Abraham from the Jets. This kinda worries me, I mean Abraham is good, but he is pretty overrated. He's a pure sacker that has had some good supporting cast around him to cover up for his weakness in run defense.

You'd still have to admit though that the Falcons have a pretty formidable line though.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

Yeah Patrick Kerney, Rod Coleman, and John Abraham make for a good D-line but can they keep the run defense in the top 5 next year. The Falcons defense has been very good at stopping the run the past few years and adding someone like Abraham could disrupt that entire scheme with his "I just want a sack" mentality.

[THE HACK]

Revenge is sweet!!!Thats if you're the Seattle Seahawks!

After the Minnesota Vikings signed Seattle's Steve Hutchinson to a 7yr-$49 million contract which was frontend loaded ensuring the Seahawks couldn't match the Seahawks went out and did the same by signing Nate Burelson from the Vikings for 7yrs-$49 million.The Vikings can't match so the Seahawks have just gotten Nate Burelson who upgrades their offense significantly while the Vikings look weak at the receiver position.While this all looks bad it serves the Vikings right and looks good on them!:thumb: :laughing:

Cheers

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Well the Hawks could've matched the Hutchinson deal, but the Vikes put a "poison pill" in there saying that if Hutch wasn't the highest paid lineup on the team his contract would become guaranteed. They did this fully knowing that Seattle has Walter Jones on the team and would not give Hutch 7 years of guaranteed money. The Burelson contract was structured in a similar way I believe, saying that if Burelson performs better than the leading rusher on the Vikes his contract will become guaranteed as well. Of course, with Shaun Alexander the Hawks don't have to worry about that.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

The Pack have entered the Lavar Arrington race. We have the cap space and I'd really like to see a playmaker like him added to the defense. If we keep Bates' system the defensive scheme should be very favourable for a LB, so a player that likes to roam around like Arrington could be very successful.

It also allows to the team to maybe go after a guy like Vernon Davis with the fifth pick in the draft.

[LiAmTrAnSdEmOn]

If Lavar Arrington is allowed to roam free he can be the force that he was in Washington but the problem is building a scheme around a player like that. When you give the player that much freedom it's hard predicting how the player will play to certain situations. In Washington, he was allowed to do his roam free thing, and he got his Pro Bowls but the defense was pitiful. Then Greg Williams comes in and tells him to play disciplined and he can't, so he gets benched. Then the defense is top 5 in the league.

I would love to see Arrington come to Philly if he wanted to play disciplined in Jim Johnson's defense, but since that probably isn't the case, I'm not getting my hopes up.

[MadDevil]

Revenge is sweet!!!Thats if you're the Seattle Seahawks!

After the Minnesota Vikings signed Seattle's Steve Hutchinson to a 7yr-$49 million contract which was frontend loaded ensuring the Seahawks couldn't match the Seahawks went out and did the same by signing Nate Burelson from the Vikings for 7yrs-$49 million.The Vikings can't match so the Seahawks have just gotten Nate Burelson who upgrades their offense significantly while the Vikings look weak at the receiver position.While this all looks bad it serves the Vikings right and looks good on them!:thumb: :laughing:

Cheers

The Vikings needed more help on the offensive line than they did at receiver, so losing Burleson is something I can live with. He'll be a solid option for the Seahawks, and I wish him the best in Seattle. Hutchinson solidifies the left side, which now looks really good with McKinnie at tackle, Hutchinson at guard, and Birk at center. Besides, throw in the third rounder they got in return for Burleson, and the Vikings can potentially deal a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd to move up in the draft, and would still have a pick in each of the first 3 rounds. Both teams got what they were looking for, so I'd say it's a good swap.:thumb:

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

I wouldn't be shocked if the Vikes moved up to draft a QB.

[MadDevil]

I wouldn't be shocked if the Vikes moved up to draft a QB.

There was some talk on the local radio stations about possibly shipping a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder to San Francisco for the #3 pick, but I don't know how realistic that is. The Niners obviously don't need another QB, but they might want to take a top defensive player. San Francisco could also use 3 picks in the top 3 rounds though, so we'll see.

I know that a few Vikings fans I've talked to around here are pretty high on Jay Cutler and AJ Hawke, both of which would fill pretty big needs for the team. Johnson has maybe one good year left in him, so they'll need somebody to at least share some of the load (if not become the outright starter) in two years.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

I think New Orleans might be a more likely scenario. With the signing of Drew Brees they might be looking to trade down. Depends on how much they like Ferguson in the two spot I guess.

I haven't heard anything about the Niners, but it's something that could happen. A guy like Bunkley or Lawson will probably be available at the spot the Vikes pick at, and both of them are tweeners that could fit into the 3-4 OLB spot well. I think they would really to stay put and pick Vernon Davis to give Alex Smith a legit receiving threat though.

I hope all these rumours stay rumours of course :) I'd hate to see a potential star like Cutler end up on the rival Vikings ;)

[THE HACK]

The Vikings needed more help on the offensive line than they did at receiver, so losing Burleson is something I can live with. He'll be a solid option for the Seahawks, and I wish him the best in Seattle. Hutchinson solidifies the left side, which now looks really good with McKinnie at tackle, Hutchinson at guard, and Birk at center. Besides, throw in the third rounder they got in return for Burleson, and the Vikings can potentially deal a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd to move up in the draft, and would still have a pick in each of the first 3 rounds. Both teams got what they were looking for, so I'd say it's a good swap.:thumb:

Its a good swap but the point I was trying to make is that what the Vikings did was "bush league".All it did was cause the Seahawks to retaliate in which they did.Mike Holmgren was pissed off that his own GM would stoop that low to retalite against the Vikings and also wasn't happy with what the Vikings originally did.It was a stupid way of doing bussiness and like Holmgren said he wants the league to do something about this so it doesn't happen again because it looks bad.

As for the 49ers,I think they have the #6 pick not the #3.

Cheers

[MadDevil]

Its a good swap but the point I was trying to make is that what the Vikings did was "bush league".All it did was cause the Seahawks to retaliate in which they did.Mike Holmgren was pissed off that his own GM would stoop that low to retalite against the Vikings and also wasn't happy with what the Vikings originally did.It was a stupid way of doing bussiness and like Holmgren said he wants the league to do something about this so it doesn't happen again because it looks bad.


See, the thing about the whole "poison pill" deal is that you can't tell me NFL owners didn't know this was a possibility. You can't tell me that when the Vikings did it, nobody in the league saw it coming. It may not have been the "nicest" thing to do, but the NFL is a business, and we all know that sometimes businesses can be ruthless. I wasn't particularly glad that the Vikings were the first team to do it, but the Hawks got them back for it. We'll see what else comes of it...