Rangers vs. Flyers 1/5/2006

[Mel]

First off, if this kid on the Flyers - Eager - wants to stick in the NHL, he should lose the high heels.

1st period: he borderline instigates a fight with Ryan Hollweg, who was not only at the very tail end of a shift, but gives up 20 pounds and 4 inches height to Eager... yet Eager still lost.

Then in the 2nd, Eager nails Jason Strudwick with his head down (someone his own size). Strudwick gets up and wants to go but Eager turned and skated so fast for a change, you'd think he was in practice for Olympic speed skating competition.

With that off my chest, The Flyers are feasting on the Rangers 2 big weaknesses. 1) taking penalties and 2) Kevin Weekes. :burning:

All 3 Flyer goals have come on the power play.

I've had it with Weekes. If I was at the garden tonight, I'd be chanting 'we want Lundqvist' with the other 18,200. :burning:

[swflyers25]

1st period: he borderline instigates a fight with Ryan Hollweg, who was not only at the very tail end of a shift, but gives up 20 pounds and 4 inches height to Eager... yet Eager still lost.

I would give the decision to the great border Hollweg as well, but he did have alot of blood on his face after the fight. Eager got some goo shots in the beginning of the fight. The kid is a good player, way more talent than Hollweg will ever have.

Gagne scores 7 seconds in. Nice defense JagGirl. Way to go. :laughing:

[Mel]

I would give the decision to the great border Hollweg as well, but he did have alot of blood on his face after the fight. Eager got some goo shots in the beginning of the fight. The kid is a good player, way more talent than Hollweg will ever have.:
Eager got exactly ONE "goo" shot in early that scraped Hollweg and drew a small bit of blood, but Eager clearly lost the fight and that was an absolute embarassment given the scenario I already posted above. And later when Strudwick got his number, he ran away like the Nancy that he is. It's all captured on video.

I wasn't commenting on whether or not Eager has talent, I was commenting that he should grow a pair if he wants to stick in the NHL... like Hollweg has stuck, rather than being bounced up and down from the AHL like a yo-yo. Whether or not he has more talent than Hollweg or not, he is ten times the pansy, and proved it tonight. :laughing:

[swflyers25]

but Eager clearly lost the fight and that was an absolute embarassment given the scenario I already posted above.

I said he lost the fight. I don't know how it all started. It just flashed to them fighting so I can't comment on what happened right before the fight started.

And later when Strudwick got his number, he ran away like the Nancy that he is. It's all captured on video.

Eager...a Nancy boy? :laughing:

232 PIM -- 71 AHL games
795 PIM -- 243 OHL games

If you really knew this kid, he's not a "nancy" boy. I think he hit Strudwick and that's why Strudwick came after him. We always get caught with stupid penalties, he's not taking a penalty on a line change.

[Mel]

I said he lost the fight. I don't know how it all started. It just flashed to them fighting so I can't comment on what happened right before the fight started.
I can because MSG cameras caught all of it. Eager literally chased down a guy much smaller than him at the very end of his shift. It was borderline instigator. Hollweg didn't have much choice, yet he still found the energy beat Eager. Made Eager look pretty stupid I would say.
Eager...a Nancy boy? :laughing:
232 PIM -- 71 AHL games
795 PIM -- 243 OHL games
I don't care how many PIM he racked up as a kid. Means nothing. This is the NHL.
If you really knew this kid, he's not a "nancy" boy. I think he hit Strudwick and that's why Strudwick came after him. We always get caught with stupid penalties, he's not taking a penalty on a line change.Yes Strudwick had the puck around his feet and was looking down at it, when Eager came in and hit him high, knocking him down. When Strudwick got up to go after Eager - remember, he's Eager's size - Eager turned and bee-lined for the bench. That's what happened. People know cowards when they see them. If I knew it, and the game announcers knew it... don't you think the players all knew it too?

Nancy. :no:

[swflyers25]

Eager literally chased down a guy much smaller than him at the very end of his shift.

Good for Eager.

I don't care how many PIM he racked up as a kid. Means nothing. This is the NHL.

That it is. Eager is a good player, heck of a lot better than Hollweg.

Yes Strudwick had the puck around his feet and was looking down at it, when Eager came in and hit him high, knocking him down.

You are going to get hit looking down at the puck. He hits him, heads to the bench for a change. Sorry if Strudwick was a little embarrassed that he got nailed. Just like Jagr was when Richards nailed him.

If I knew it, and the game announcers knew it... don't you think the players all knew it too?

So you represent the opinion of the announcers and the NHL players? Whatever. :thumb:

Nancy.

Ok Mel, whatever you say.

[Mel]

That it is. Eager is a good player, heck of a lot better than Hollweg.I do not arrogantly profess to know who's "better" than who. However this much I do know. Hollweg has earned a regular spot in the NHL. Eager has not.

What is everyone who plays for the Flyers God? I swear on my life, if the two players switched uniforms - you'd be chirping about how Hollweg is a heck of a lot better than Eager.

Since these 2 teams haven't met since opening night, I doubt very much you had the slightest idea who Ryan Hollweg was, until you saw this thread. In the words of Jerry Seinfeld, you cheer for laundry.

You are going to get hit looking down at the puck. He hits him, heads to the bench for a change. Sorry if Strudwick was a little embarrassed that he got nailed. Just like Jagr was when Richards nailed him.Who said anything about being embarassed? If anyone got nailed last night it, was Forsberg. Or did you miss that too?
So you represent the opinion of the announcers and the NHL players? Whatever. :thumb:When you hear an announcer say something over the TV, isn't it usually safe to assume you know their opinion? :thumb:

[swflyers25]

However this much I do know. Hollweg has earned a regular spot in the NHL. Eager has not.

That's based on what? Eager has been up since all the injuries occured and that's been over 2 months or more. Hollweg has earned a spot....:conspire:

02-Nov-05: Recalled from Hartford (AHL).
12-Oct-05: Assigned to Hartford (AHL).

That's a sign of being a regular. Eager would be up with the team the whole time but he can't because of how close we are to the cap.

What is everyone who plays for the Flyers God? I swear on my life, if the two players switched uniforms - you'd be chirping about how Hollweg is a heck of a lot better than Eager.

Hollweg is a garbage player. Third line agitator, great potential.

Since these 2 teams haven't met since opening night, I doubt very much you had the slightest idea who Ryan Hollweg was, until you saw this thread. In the words of Jerry Seinfeld, you cheer for laundry.

I just remember him boarding Seidenberg and giving him a concussion. That's all I need to see.

Who said anything about being embarassed? If anyone got nailed last night it, was Forsberg. Or did you miss that too?

He got hit, I didn't miss it. He gets right back up. The Ranger players: let's go after the guy (Strudwick) that hits you and grab the guy because he laid you out (Jagr).
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060106/capt.msg10301060146.flyers_rangers_hockey_msg103.j pg

People are going after Forsberg a lot more, he can take it and he can dish it out as well.
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060106/capt.msg10101060057.flyers_rangers_hockey_msg101.j pg

How did he get back at the Rangers? Assisted or helped get the game winner 7 seconds in OT.

When you hear an announcer say something over the TV, isn't it usually safe to assume you know their opinion?

And John Davidson's unbiased opinion is really something to value. :no:

[Mel]

That's based on what? Eager has been up since all the injuries occured and that's been over 2 months or more. Hollweg has earned a spot....:conspire:

02-Nov-05: Recalled from Hartford (AHL).
12-Oct-05: Assigned to Hartford (AHL).

That's a sign of being a regular. Eager would be up with the team the whole time but he can't because of how close we are to the cap.
Let's look at the facts. So far this season Eager has still played more AHL games than NHL games. Here's his transaction listing since December 1st.

12/21/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia DEL Recalled
12/20/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia ADD Returned
12/19/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia DEL Recalled
12/19/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia DEL Recalled
12/18/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia ADD Returned
12/16/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia DEL Recalled
12/16/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia ADD Returned
12/15/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia DEL Recalled
12/14/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia ADD Returned
12/12/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia DEL Recalled
12/11/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia ADD Returned
12/10/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia DEL Recalled
12/07/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia ADD Returned
12/06/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia DEL Recalled
12/04/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia ADD Returned
12/03/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia DEL Recalled
12/01/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia ADD Returned
11/30/2005 Ben Eager (LW) Philadelphia DEL Recalled

Uh-huh.

Hollweg made the NYR team, got sent down once. Called back up a few weeks later and has since stuck. He's played 25 games with the Rangers this season. Only 7 in Hartford (all back in October). These are just facts, not open to debate really. But we can keep arguing about this if you like.
Hollweg is a garbage player. Third line agitator, great potential.
And Eager is just so much more than that! :laughing:

He got hit, I didn't miss it. He gets right back up. The Ranger players: let's go after the guy (Strudwick) that hits you and grab the guy because he laid you out (Jagr).People are going after Forsberg a lot more, he can take it and he can dish it out as well.
Thanks for reminding me, it was Kaspar who dumped Forsberg. As for Jagr, what's so terrible about pushing some rookie off you when he's sitting on you? He didn't even come close to getting "laid out" either. He was taken down, yes. It was a clean play. But gimme a break about being laid out.

It's funny how everyone playing against the Flyers "gets nailed" or gets "laid out" and can't take it. Yet everyone on the Flyers "gets right back up"... In reality there wasn't a single player in that game who went down and didn't get right back up... was there? So your point is truly meaningless.
How did he get back at the Rangers? Assisted or helped get the game winner 7 seconds in OT.
Actually since you brought it up... Forsberg was held scoreless in the game and was one the ice for both 1st period Ranger goals. He only registered an assist because he won the opening face-off in overtime that Gagne took in for a breakaway. Other than that he was checked all game and did nothing, except for that one-on-one with Weekes toward the end of regulation. Although the Flyers got the extra point in OT, overall Jagr was a far superior and more dominant player in that game than Forsberg was.
And John Davidson's unbiased opinion is really something to value.
He's one of the most respected analysts in the game, the guy major networks usually turn to when they need a hockey analyst. He had an NHL career and spent his whole life around hockey. One of the reasons he's good is because he notices many of the subtleties of what's going on during the game. When a team (any team) is angry with another player for acting like your basic panty waist... he picks up on it and tells the TV audience. He is one of the best in the business. If a Rangers player, usually Hollweg, gets another team riled... he'll say so, and the reason why.

He just says what's going on. It's not bias against the precious Flyers.

[swflyers25]

Uh-huh.

Hollweg made the NYR team, got sent down once.

Of course he makes the Rangers team, they don't have as much talent as the Flyers have. No debate over that.

And Eager is just so much more than that!

From what I have seen, he does have way more potential than the scrub known as Hollweg.

As for Jagr, what's so terrible about pushing some rookie off you when he's sitting on you? He didn't even come close to getting "laid out" either. He was taken down, yes. It was a clean play. But gimme a break about being laid out.

Sure Richards didn't hit him. Ok, you're kidding yourself Mel.:rolleyes:

It's funny how everyone playing against the Flyers "gets nailed" or gets "laid out" and can't take it. Yet everyone on the Flyers "gets right back up"... In reality there wasn't a single player in that game who went down and didn't get right back up... was there? So your point is truly meaningless.

Who on the Flyers decided to go after the guy who hit them when they got hit? No one. Forsberg didn't. No one else did. Eager hits Strudwick, Strudwick goes after him. Richards hits Jagr and Jagr grabs him by the jersey. Our guys don't waste time by doing stupid stuff like that. Forsberg gets back at guys by either scoring a goal or assisting on many of them.

He's one of the most respected analysts in the game, the guy major networks usually turn to when they need a hockey analyst. He had an NHL career and spent his whole life around hockey.

Didn't he play for the Rangers? But he has no bias.

When a team (any team) is angry with another player for acting like your basic panty waist

That's Ryan Hollweg for you.:nod:

[Mel]

Of course he makes the Rangers team, they don't have as much talent as the Flyers have. No debate over that.
No - there's no way I'd argue that with you. The Flyers clearly have more talent on their roster. The Rangers win with a few offensive weapons, and a bunch of blue collar workers. But so far this season they've been pretty successful... far more than anyone - including myself - gave them a chance for.
Sure Richards didn't hit him. Ok, you're kidding yourself Mel. I did not say that Richards didn't hit him. I said he didn't lay him out. I don't know about you, but to me there's a big difference. That clip you showed of Richards in the other thread, that was a layout. Stevens on Lindros = layout. Tucker on Kapanen = layout.

The Richards hit on Jagr was nothing special. It was a clean hit and he knocked Jagr down... but certainly nothing to go bragging about. And if I was Jagr and some rookie half my size was sitting on me, I'd push him off too. I don't think it's a "waste of time" or even unsportsmanlike to push a kid off you to get up and get back into the play.

Who on the Flyers decided to go after the guy who hit them when they got hit? No one. Forsberg didn't. No one else did.
No one else did? Excuse me but that is precisely what Eager did my friend. Open your eyes. He went after Hollweg because Hollweg was hitting Flyers left and right.

I don't begrudge Eager at all for sticking up for his teammates. What bothers me is the hypocrisy that you're trying to justify here. Hollweg was in bad need of a change when Eager chased him down. Hollweg could have turned and raced for the bench, but he stood and fought like a man against a bigger guy, and even won the fight.

Later in the game, Eager comes in and throws a hit on Strudwick, it was clean. Kinda cheap but definitely clean and legal... so Strudwick jumps up and wants to have at Eager... But Eager turns and races for the bench. That's bull crap and you know it. You're applying a double standard because it's the never-do-wrong Flyers (as usual).

Our guys don't waste time by doing stupid stuff like that. Yes they do. I've watched them do it. All teams do it.

Forsberg gets back at guys by either scoring a goal or assisting on many of them. I've heard Jagr knows how to score goals and assists too.

Listen, all I'm saying is Eager, or more specifically, those defending Eager, cannot have it both ways. Maybe Nancy was too strong of a word... but Eager was not a stand-up, honest fighter in that particular game, he was a weasel.

He's not the first and won't be the last. But your absolute tunnel vision that the Flyers can do no wrong is a tired act.

New York Ranger Dale Purinton (who beat Brashear heavily several years ago I might add)... was involved in a series of incidents that I considered weasel-ish, especially for a mid-heavy weight. Instead of running around claiming that he was right to do what he did... I called a spade a spade and frankly I hope this kid who I really liked when he first came up, never plays another game for the Rangers.

That's honesty. And I can talk hockey without blinders on. What you practice is 1) posting every Flyer article and photograph you get your hands on, and 2) Regarding every single mention of the Flyers as a cause to get into an argument about how great the Flyers are. That's pretty much why nobody is interested in your threads.

[swflyers25]

nd if I was Jagr and some rookie half my size was sitting on me, I'd push him off too. I don't think it's a "waste of time" or even unsportsmanlike to push a kid off you to get up and get back into the play.

He didn't sit on him. When he hit him he tripped a little. He tried to get up and he couldn't because Jagr had a hold of his jersey. It's kind of hard for him to get up when the guy is grabbing your jersey.

What bothers me is the hypocrisy that you're trying to justify here. Hollweg was in bad need of a change when Eager chased him down. Hollweg could have turned and raced for the bench, but he stood and fought like a man against a bigger guy, and even won the fight.

That's what happened with the Strudwick hit. He was at the end of his shift and Eager headed to the bench. I have now seen the NY feed of the game. Eager hit him with the stick a few times and Hollweg dropped the gloves. He could have went back to the bench.

Kinda cheap but definitely clean and legal... so Strudwick jumps up and wants to have at Eager... But Eager turns and races for the bench. That's bull crap and you know it. You're applying a double standard because it's the never-do-wrong Flyers (as usual).

You just applied the double standard you accuse me of to make your point:

Hollweg could have turned and raced for the bench.

Eager hit the guy because he had his head down with the puck in the Flyers zone. You are asking to get hit when you are just sitting there looking at the puck which is what Strudwick was doing. Eager had a good hit and went to the bench for a change. He was about 15 feet away from the bench. He hit him, turned the right and went to the bench. His line was already off the ice.
Strudwick appeared to go after him because he didn't appreciate getting knocked on his butt. That's hockey, learn to keep your head up.

Yes they do. I've watched them do it. All teams do it.

We have been near the bottom of the PK all year. It's been our achilles heel all year. Lately it hasn't been the dumb calls like retaliation getting us in the box. It's Chris Therien, it's rookie mistakes and old habits that get us in the box.

Simon Gagne decided to go after Robyn Regehr after Robyn drilled him into the boards after the whistle was blown already.

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/3418/gagsmad7qo.gif

Somehow, Gagne gets 4 minutes and Robyn gets 2 minutes. Robyn should have gotten 5 for boarding. That's where doing that crap gets us, in the box.
We were taking penalties left and right in the beginning of the year for dumb calls like that, they haven't been doing it as of late. We are trying to improve the PK, how do you do that? By not taking dumb penalties and retaliation is the dumbest one of them all.

He's not the first and won't be the last. But your absolute tunnel vision that the Flyers can do no wrong is a tired act.

So is everyone who loves to jump at the opportunity to bash the Flyers any chance they get. I'm sure if people slam your team left and right or slam whatever you are trying say left and right, you will sit there and do nothing.
You must like getting walked over because it doesn't seem like you want to challenge what anyone says. Just calling it how I see it.

Right. :rolleyes:

That's honesty. And I can talk hockey without blinders on. What you practice is 1) posting every Flyer article and photograph you get your hands on, and 2) Regarding every single mention of the Flyers as a cause to get into an argument about how great the Flyers are. That's pretty much why nobody is interested in your threads.

Yes, it's really a drag that what, the 20 or so people that actually come here aren't interested in my threads. The other 78 members seem to be of the old "register once and post once" crowd. Let's get real here. You have this board because you got tired of hockeyforums. There are more people who seem to like that board more.

All I can say is that if you are going to point out what's wrong with my team, I am going to defend them. And if you would get past the whole delusion that I think the Flyers can do now wrong, you would see that I do admit their faults and shortcomings.

However, NO ONE WILL ADMIT WHEN THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING GOOD LIKE THEY ARE NOW. It's just another chance to throw in another snide remark because some people can't control their immature impulses.

So please, spare me that you are so above getting into arguments, half of the time it's some of the people starting them.

I've said my peace. Ban me or whatever. Just another member you'll lose to an already small member contigent.

[Mel]

:laughing:

No I'm not above getting into arguments or else I wouldn't be in this one would I? Beyond that your rant makes little or no sense. I did not apply any double standard. You're spinning in circles now. You're telling me Hollweg could have skated to the bench but the whole point of this thread was that he didn't, remember? Enough with that.

As for your "peace" - no of course I'm not banning you. We're debating hockey here. But since you were not capable of holding your own you got frustrated and threw a little temper tantrum on me. I'll get over it.

But I do find one thing interesting - you to tend to bad mouth this site when you get angry, and you do seem somewhat fixated on the fact that we still have a small membership here.

Well, for a crappy little site with 20 members, you sure do come here an awful lot, don't you. And, contrary to what you seem to believe - the fact that we have a small membership here, does not make your senseless, robot-like posting of articles any more interesting or fascinating to the others who come here. It's just as annoying, useless and pointless here, as it is on larger sites.

Whether we have 5 members or 5000, my message is the same for anybody who is unhappy with this site. It's very simple - Nobody's forcing you to come here. If you don't like it here, go somewhere else. Have a nice day :)

[swflyers25]

I did not apply any double standard. You're spinning in circles now. You're telling me Hollweg could have skated to the bench but the whole point of this thread was that he didn't, remember? Enough with that.

Really, I thought your claim was that Eager was "nancy" boy.

First off, if this kid on the Flyers - Eager - wants to stick in the NHL, he should lose the high heels.

1st period: he borderline instigates a fight with Ryan Hollweg, who was not only at the very tail end of a shift, but gives up 20 pounds and 4 inches height to Eager... yet Eager still lost.

Then in the 2nd, Eager nails Jason Strudwick with his head down (someone his own size). Strudwick gets up and wants to go but Eager turned and skated so fast for a change, you'd think he was in practice for Olympic speed skating competition.

I wasn't commenting on whether or not Eager has talent, I was commenting that he should grow a pair if he wants to stick in the NHL... like Hollweg has stuck, rather than being bounced up and down from the AHL like a yo-yo. Whether or not he has more talent than Hollweg or not, he is ten times the pansy, and proved it tonight.

Eager turned and bee-lined for the bench. That's what happened. People know cowards when they see them. If I knew it, and the game announcers knew it... don't you think the players all knew it too?

Sure that was the point of the thread. Might want to read what you wrote again. :rolleyes:

rather than being bounced up and down from the AHL like a yo-yo.

Eager's call up and being sent down is because of the salary cap.

But I do find one thing interesting - you to tend to bad mouth this site when you get angry, and you do seem somewhat fixated on the fact that we still have a small membership here.

I don't intend to badmouth it. Some of you just act like having an article posted is doing so much damage to this site. Like it will slow the site down or something. It might actually draw people here. Maybe if people saw that the site was actually busy, they would stay. Just pointing it out.

And, contrary to what you seem to believe - the fact that we have a small membership here, does not make your senseless, robot-like posting of articles any more interesting or fascinating to the others who come here. It's just as annoying, useless and pointless here, as it is on larger sites.

Well, it may be pointless to you because you think you know everything about hockey. I realize that now. But other people outside your little world don't find it annyoing, useless or pointless on other sites. I know that for a fact.

As for your "peace" - no of course I'm not banning you. We're debating hockey here. But since you were not capable of holding your own you got frustrated and threw a little temper tantrum on me. I'll get over it.

Yes, a temper tantrum. I forgot. If you don't sit there and let people walk all over your opinion, you are throwing a temper tantrum. :laughing:

Grow up Mel.

Nobody's forcing you to come here. If you don't like it here, go somewhere else.

I'll keep coming here, posting my articles and the same applies, if you don't like what I post in the Flyers forum then don't come to that section.

Sounds cool to me.

[Mel]

I don't intend to badmouth it Some of you just act like having an article posted is doing so much damage to this site. Like it will slow the site down or something. It might actually draw people here. Maybe if people saw that the site was actually busy, they would stay. Just pointing it out. Well, it may be pointless to you because you think you know everything about hockey. I realize that now.
Nobody here has ever acted like posting an article is damaging the site. No one has ever said this to you. No one has ever said it will slow down the site. That is all in your imagination. And how your excessive article posting is related to my personal knowledge of hockey is beyond me.

I talk to a lot of people. The only person who has ever said your mindless reprinting of everything you see will actually draw people here is you, just now.

But other people outside your little world don't find it annyoing, useless or pointless on other sites. I know that for a fact.

If you only knew what I know for a fact... if you only knew the truth. Don't forget I've modded at some of these other sites you talk about too. I'll think better of it and bite my tongue here.

I'll keep coming here, posting my articles and the same applies

If you must. We will be making sure that you continue to stick to your dedicated article thread. If you don't, you will get another ban. Contrary to what you might believe outside of your little world, we're growing this site for quality, not quantity... so if you want to disregard what the moderators tell you, you will get bounced, and this crappy little 20 member web site will happily go to 19.

if you don't like what I post in the Flyers forum then don't come to that section.

Thanks for advising me where not to go on my own web site, that's thoughtful of you really. But as a moderator I don't have a choice.

[wildboy26]

I've had it with Weekes. If I was at the garden tonight, I'd be chanting 'we want Lundqvist' with the other 18,200. :burning:

Weekes is a plausable enough #1 starting goalie in the NHL usually, I would say about average for #1 goalies in the NHL. At the start of the year I suspect that the Rangers thought that was the best they could get, and were comfortable going with him, but he isnt even playing up to his past years level this year, adn Lundqvist has come along alot faster than expected. So yes there should be a change, loyalty should not come before logic.

[swflyers25]

If you only knew what I know for a fact... if you only knew the truth. Don't forget I've modded at some of these other sites you talk about too. I'll think better of it and bite my tongue here.

What..hfforums? That's really a big area you got covered. :laughing:

Let's just say I know for a fact that people do appreciate it. If it's not me posting an article, it's someone else.

If you must. We will be making sure that you continue to stick to your dedicated article thread. If you don't, you will get another ban. Contrary to what you might believe outside of your little world,

:eek: Oh no.:rolleyes: