View Full Version : Marlies Attendance: Way To Go MLSE.
Newfie John
11-27-05, 10:10 PM
In talking about the Fog Devils in another thread I was curious to see the attendance for Marlies games. I put an evil smirk on my face when I seen these figures on another board.
Game 1 - 8056, Wednesday game
Game 2 - 5897, Friday game
Game 3 - 5592, Friday game VS Hamilton
Game 4 - 6110, Friday game Vs Rochester
Game 5 - 4875, Saturday game
Game 6 - 4997, Thursday game VS Hamilton
Game 7 - 4680, Saturday game
Game 8 - 4119, Sunday game
Game 9 - 3502, Friday night game VS Manitoba
Other then the home opener, the attendance figures were very average. Mile One Stadium holds a capacity of just over 6000. Marlies attracted over that once, in the home opener. In a game against the DIVISION RIVAL Manitoba Moose, on a friday night where the Leafs were away in Carolina, the attendace was about half of the capacity at Mile One. Hilarious.
Man.Utd
11-27-05, 10:14 PM
Nobody should be surprised though.....
I was right too.
Those number will only decline as the season goes on.
I said this a year ago: Toronto is a major league town, so fans will not support teams unless they're of the best level. It's shocking how they don't give a sh!t about an AHL team. :rolleyes: With the Maple Leafs in town and receiving all the attention, I would be willing to bet that most hockey fans in Toronto don't even know that the Marlies exist.
IF MLSE was wise, they'd move them back to St. (Newfie) John's.
I was right too.
Those number will only decline as the season goes on.
I said this a year ago: Toronto is a major league town, so fans will not support teams unless they're of the best level. It's shocking how they don't give a sh!t about an AHL team. :rolleyes: With the Maple Leafs in town and receiving all the attention, I would be willing to bet that most hockey fans in Toronto don't even know that the Marlies exist.
IF MLSE was wise, they'd move them back to St. (Newfie) John's.Never will this team move back to the Rock. They are sitting at about the middle of the league in attendance, not bad for a Pro-League market.
Forget the attendance, its not really about that, they are still turning a profit simply by not playing way in the east. Leafs management can keep an easier and a much closer eye on their prospects and if a call up is required, 9 times out of 10 its just a $10.00 cab ride.
Newfie John
11-28-05, 12:53 PM
Never will this team move back to the Rock. They are sitting at about the middle of the league in attendance, not bad for a Pro-League market.
Forget the attendance, its not really about that, they are still turning a profit simply by not playing way in the east. Leafs management can keep an easier and a much closer eye on their prospects and if a call up is required, 9 times out of 10 its just a $10.00 cab ride.
You just contradicted yourself. You say this isn't about money but then you say a call up is a 10.00 cab ride?
They were making money in St. Johns, if they weren't making enough, they could have raised ticket prices as they were pretty affordable when they were here.
You just contradicted yourself. You say this isn't about money but then you say a call up is a 10.00 cab ride?
They were making money in St. Johns, if they weren't making enough, they could have raised ticket prices as they were pretty affordable when they were here.I'm sure sticking to the good fans even more so then they already do woud go over very well in the Leaf basher club house. Right JR? ;)
John its not just about the money, as soon as you realise that its much more benificial to the big team this way, that pill you have stuck in your throut will go down. Transfers are now a sinch, and emergecy call ups can happen at the snap of your fingers. Imagine the Leafs are on a western road trip and an injury happens, in Toronto or even on the AHL road its easy and simple to get a player to the west coast on a moments notice. Its a bit more difficult on the Rock.
The people at MLSE know how to make money, they knew they weren't going to get the numbers they got on the Rock, but they raise the prices for the area they play and like I said in some previous thread somewhere, they are saving money not being on the east coast with less travel.
They weren't the first to leave the Maritimes, they were the last. But when the MLSE decided to follow suit, all hell breaks loose. MLSE can be accused of a lot of things, but being the big bad mean SOB on this issue can't be placed at their door.
Newfie John
11-28-05, 4:29 PM
Other teams left the maritimes for sensible reasons. Mostly financial. St. Johns was doing well. You say this is so beneficial to the team because its easier to make call ups, when was it ever a problem when the baby leafs were alive? Tell me that.
Leafs_Fa_Life
11-28-05, 5:51 PM
Other teams left the maritimes for sensible reasons. Mostly financial. St. Johns was doing well. You say this is so beneficial to the team because its easier to make call ups, when was it ever a problem when the baby leafs were alive? Tell me that.
Well it was never a problem, but, you have to admit, it is more convenient for the team. If a guy need to be called up gameday, he can grab a cab and be at the ACC in time to take part in practice and meetings. From a hockey POV it makes sense.
Newfie John
11-28-05, 6:23 PM
Well it was never a problem, but, you have to admit, it is more convenient for the team. If a guy need to be called up gameday, he can grab a cab and be at the ACC in time to take part in practice and meetings. From a hockey POV it makes sense.
It was never a problem, sure, its a little more convenient, but is it really worth taking a team out of a successful market who has treated the organization like gold? I think not. I guess in the big city loyalty and honor doesn't go very far.
Leafs_Fa_Life
11-28-05, 6:47 PM
I guess in the big city loyalty and honor doesn't go very far.
No they don't:coffee:
Iced Tea
11-28-05, 7:06 PM
Never will this team move back to the Rock. They are sitting at about the middle of the league in attendance, not bad for a Pro-League market.
Forget the attendance, its not really about that, they are still turning a profit simply by not playing way in the east. Leafs management can keep an easier and a much closer eye on their prospects and if a call up is required, 9 times out of 10 its just a $10.00 cab ride.Amoroq has it right.
Fergie and Quinn can take a quick car ride downtown, see how the farmhands are doing, and stop for subs at Quiznos on the return trip. That's a few hours out of their day. They couldn't do that when the team was in Newfoundland. Fergie had the time to go for the plane ride every few weeks but Quinn was too busy to go to the Rock.
After see the Flyers' sweet setup of having the farm team across the street from the Flyers, the Leafs must have realized they too needed to make the move.
It sucks to be screwed over by the Leafs but it's just business.
Maybe you should quit cheering for the heartless Leafs and cheer for the Canadiens or Senators. :D
Newfie John
11-28-05, 8:15 PM
No they don't:coffee:
Thats a bloody shame.
Amoroq has it right.
Fergie and Quinn can take a quick car ride downtown, see how the farmhands are doing, and stop for subs at Quiznos on the return trip. That's a few hours out of their day. They couldn't do that when the team was in Newfoundland. Fergie had the time to go for the plane ride every few weeks but Quinn was too busy to go to the Rock.
They don't have TV or the internet in Toronto.........
Iced Tea
11-28-05, 9:49 PM
They don't have TV or the internet in Toronto.........Why are you asking me, I'm in BC, better to ask someone living in Toronto. That is if they can find a computer with that new fangled internet thing. :D
Having the farm team down the street allows Fergie to stay on top of things. Better to see the players live then watch a tape which might not show what a player truly contibutes on any given night.
Besides, it's the Leafs who are heartless b@stards who screwed over Newfie John, not me. :D
Why are you asking me, I'm in BC, better to ask someone living in Toronto. That is if they can find a computer with that new fangled internet thing. :D
Having the farm team down the street allows Fergie to stay on top of things. Better to see the players live then watch a tape which might not show what a player truly contibutes on any given night.
Besides, it's the Leafs who are heartless b@stards who screwed over Newfie John, not me. :D:talkhand: your killing me!! :laughing:
Other teams left the maritimes for sensible reasons. Mostly financial. St. Johns was doing well. You say this is so beneficial to the team because its easier to make call ups, when was it ever a problem when the baby leafs were alive? Tell me that.The simple fact that the baby leafs were turning a profit yet were still moved should really be the tell tale sign that its not about making or losing money, its about logistics. Every eastern team have their AHL teams close to the vest now. All MLSE did was follow suit. You make it sound like its all a conspiracy against you.
Man.Utd
11-28-05, 10:33 PM
Having the farm team down the street allows Fergie to stay on top of things. Better to see the players live then watch a tape which might not show what a player truly contibutes on any given night.
I see what you're saying, but what ever happened to having scouts stationed all across the map, going to see a few games yourself, and buckling down to watch a good amount of video? I realize live is better but again that's why you put people in place who can see them every day and report to you.
Ottawa, New Jersey, and Detroit all have farm teams not in the same city. I think they are far and away the "big 3" as far as proven franchises go that can both scout, draft, and develop young talent. While having the AHL affiliate just across the street certainly has it's advantages, it's not a requirement for success. In fact, most teams who are successful in such areas don't have it. I don't think the rather limited and marginal pros justified moving a team away from a place that supported them far better than Toronto ever will, and even had them worked into their culture it would seem.
I wouldn't call Albany, Binghamton, and Grand Rapids all that far away from the home city. There are no other AHL teams in the Maritimes, they all left, long before the baby leafs did. Why?
Iced Tea
12-09-05, 8:20 PM
I'm watching the Marlies play the Barons on Sportsnet Ontario, and I think the Marlies forgot to advertise the game because I can see maybe a few hundred fans at the Ricoh Coliseum. Unless the upper bowl, which has not been shown, is full, I don't see how the Marlies can say attendance is decent. :shrug:
Then all is going according to hoyle for all those opposed to MLSE, which begs the question, why be bitchin?
As Arenio Hall once said "Things that make you say Hmmmmmm"
:laughing:
Newfie John
12-10-05, 11:32 AM
Things that make you say "Hmmm" is when a successful corporation moves a successful team for no apparent reason, losing money in the process, for the sake of making about 10 call-ups easier. Meanwhile, leaves the city which treated this corporation like royalty in the dark.
hmm...
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