GDT: Montreal @ Toronto

[Newfie John]

A bit late with this GDT but if you're not watching this game, turn it on. It's now in the second intermission with the leafs leading 3-2. Allison, Kilger and O'neill have the leaf goals. Sundin is playing with Wellwood and Steen and that line has been great, its only a matter of time before they pot one. Jose Theodore is playing pretty well, he just robbed(save of the year type robbed) Kaberle of a goal right on the doorstep with his glove. Amazing save. He stoned Wellwood a few times too.

Good game so far.

[TimmyTabasco]

I caught the 3rd period

Firstly, what is with the TBC? The bias is so evident, its not even funny.

Second, get rid of Cole/Neale. We live in the year 2005, not 1965. They are a cure for insomnia. I had to switch over to CBC France in order to stay awake, and I don't even speak French

Third, bad penalty by my buddy Rivet. The Habs almost killed it off, but Frankenstein gets the winner

Oh well. Habs are going thru a little rough patch, and really miss Kovalev.

[Man.Utd]

Never should have went to OT. Montreal was robbed of a goal in regulation. Kronwall takes down Markov as the puck goes to the front and it bounces in off of Markov. No penalty for Kronwall's take down and no real reason why the goal was disallowed.

After being lucky to get a point out of the Carolina game, Toronto is getting some very good fortune in this tough stretch right now. And unlike you could say in years past, they don't deserve it. This teams seems to consistantly get outplayed, outshot, and outhustled. The never seem to come out with any energy and the few players who do are forced to ride the bench for most of the night. It's a very different Leaf team in this aspect of the game this campaign IMO. Excluding that last point. Quinn's always been blind to young talent. They were okay tonight and Theodore kept it nice and close, but that was a general comment. Not much jump in TO this year from what I've seen.

EDIT - Obvious a penalty at the end, don't know why Montreal was so pissed. Kronwall went down and didn't return. If he's out at all and Quinn uses Belak over Colaiacovo....... Wellwood looked good with Sundin though he didn't stary there long, Wilm and Kilger the only Leaf forwards to get less time. A few weak goals by Belfour but also some big saves.

[Madferret]

lol
The Leafs 4 on 3 in O.T streak continues..

[Newfie John]

Man U, we don't deserve it? We outplayed Montreal the whole game(the secone period was even). The game against Carolina was a good road game for us aswell.

After the game in Boston, some calls had to go our way. It all evens out in the wash anyway.

Sundin was awesome last night. A goal and an assist and his line was all over the place. I think that combo of Steen-Sundin-Wellwood could be lethal and should stay together for a long time. Wellwood was the most dangerous player on the ice in Carolina and last night he was hard to contain for the Habs but Theo made some beauty saves on him. Looks like Quinn must of read my "Give Wellwood more Time" thread.

O'niell scored his 11th of the year, giving him the team lead in goals. With our offense doing so well, and our leading scorer having 11 goals, it really shows how we're getting scoring throughout our lineup. A great tool to have when going into the playoffs.

[Madferret]

John that game could have went either way.
Montreal played brutal in the 1st, but battled back twice to make a game of it. To have the refs give the Leafs a 4-3 PP for a full 2 minutes on a trash call like that is a gift. They let a ton of stuff go in the 3rd, then call that?
Another thing, what's with Domi diving all night long every game ? Has it come to that Tie?
Markov's 'non goal' was a real head scratcher also.

[Man.Utd]

Man U, we don't deserve it?

Deserved score: 4-3 Montreal F.

Markov's goal should have never been dissalowed. Don't really think there's much more to say. Obviously, you'll take it. Any team would and now it's time to prepare for the next match. But that was robbery.

[Newfie John]

Deserved score: 4-3 Montreal F.

Markov's goal should have never been dissalowed. Don't really think there's much more to say. Obviously, you'll take it. Any team would and now it's time to prepare for the next match. But that was robbery.

Kind of like how we were robbed of the OT goal the night before in Carolina?

Like I said, it all evens out in the wash. What probably happened was the ref didn't see the play until Rivet was crashing into the net. He called it goalie interference. It was a bad call yes, but they happen all the time.

Ferret- I don't remember Domi diving.

[Madferret]

Kind of like how we were robbed of the OT goal the night before in Carolina?

Like I said, it all evens out in the wash. What probably happened was the ref didn't see the play until Rivet was crashing into the net. He called it goalie interference. It was a bad call yes, but they happen all the time.

How does it 'even out' for the Habs? Why should a blown call in a Carolina Toronto game affect a Toronto Montreal game?
It was Markov not Rivet, the ref blew the whistle after the puck was in the net, and their was no goalie interference penalty called, in fact there wasn't any penalty called on the play.

[Newfie John]

How does it 'even out' for the Habs? Why should a blown call in a Carolina Toronto game affect a Toronto Montreal game?
It was Markov not Rivet, the ref blew the whistle after the puck was in the net, and their was no goalie interference penalty called, in fact there wasn't any penalty called on the play.

They'll get a good call sooner or later of the same nature. If you don't think they will its being naive. Bad calls always happen, and it evens out. I'm sure hab fans are pissed, and rightfully so, but the same thing happened to the leafs the night before. The same thing will happen to them, only turned around sometime also, if it hasn't already happened sometime earlier in the year.

[Amoroq]

How does it 'even out' for the Habs? Why should a blown call in a Carolina Toronto game affect a Toronto Montreal game?
It was Markov not Rivet, the ref blew the whistle after the puck was in the net, and their was no goalie interference penalty called, in fact there wasn't any penalty called on the play.Allison being hauled down and then stripped of the puck and the Habs scoring. No call. Evens out ;)

[Man.Utd]

Kind of like how we were robbed of the OT goal the night before in Carolina?

Pretty much. But this was much more blatant. I honestly didn't know it was in until I saw the highlights after. Did you guys go upstairs for that BTW?

As Ferret said, how does it "even out" for Montreal.......

[Newfie John]

Yeah they did go upstairs. Which is why I was baffled it wasn't called a goal. It was clearly in the net.

[Newfie John]

Allison being hauled down and then stripped of the puck and the Habs scoring. No call. Evens out ;)

Good point.

[Man.Utd]

Yeah they did go upstairs. Which is why I was baffled it wasn't called a goal. It was clearly in the net.

That is strange then.

A goal being disallowed and a trip being missed is quite a bit different, even if the Habs scored off the latter.

[charlio lemieux]

Man U, we don't deserve it? We outplayed Montreal the whole game(the secone period was even). The game against Carolina was a good road game for us aswell.

After the game in Boston, some calls had to go our way. It all evens out in the wash anyway.

Sundin was awesome last night. A goal and an assist and his line was all over the place. I think that combo of Steen-Sundin-Wellwood could be lethal and should stay together for a long time. Wellwood was the most dangerous player on the ice in Carolina and last night he was hard to contain for the Habs but Theo made some beauty saves on him. Looks like Quinn must of read my "Give Wellwood more Time" thread.
O'niell scored his 11th of the year, giving him the team lead in goals. With our offense doing so well, and our leading scorer having 11 goals, it really shows how we're getting scoring throughout our lineup. A great tool to have when going into the playoffs.

Sorry NJ but I think he read my post in the Next Stretch thread.
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[Amoroq]

I don't know if these missed calls all over the game is something that was always there but just new because we lost a season or a side effect to the new rules. But non calls and calls that were called in one game but not in others is a league wide problem and probably has had an impact in a win or a loss for almost every team this year.

Off topic sort of. Did anyone happen to catch the tail end of the Nucks/Nix games? Can't remember now which player had the breakaway for the nucks but the nix dman made a great play lifting the stick, and the nucks player falls down like being shot from the grassy knoll. No call for diving. If they really want to crack down on diving then these have to be called. I don't think I've seen a diving call without the first tripping or hooking called first. If its not a hook, trip or obstruction but the player does a half gainer, call the damn dive.

[Madferret]

Allison being hauled down and then stripped of the puck and the Habs scoring. No call. Evens out ;)
Good point.

'Hauled down'...lol
Who was that 5'9 Dagenais who stripped the puck off Allison? I like how Allison goes down like he was shot, then turns around looking for a penalty. Embellish much?
You guys won due to a couple of really bad blown calls and gift penalties, it's o.k to admit it most of Canada saw it happen.

[Amoroq]

I'm pretty sure I freely admit it, bad calls happen everywhere for every team. Letter of the law, 5.9 dude had one hand on Allison, he goes down, no call period. I would have been happy with the standard interference and a dive on Allison. But nadda thing, a goal was scored, bad call.

[Newfie John]

There were bad calls both ways that game dev.

[Madferret]

There were bad calls both ways that game dev.

I'm not disputing that, but 2 of them directly cost the Habs the game.
Meh, anyways...

:shrug:

[TimmyTabasco]

I'm not disputing that, but 2 of them directly cost the Habs the game.
Meh, anyways...

:shrug:

Yeah, the Habs will get those calls back during the season

What can you do

[Newfie John]

Yeah, the Habs will get those calls back during the season

What can you do

My point exactly.