Eskimos beat Lions again, advance to Grey Cup

[J.R.]

Jason Maas is the hero for Edmonton again.

He came into the game in the fourth quarter and immediately led a sleepy Esks' offence to a touchdown for a 28-21 lead. Some smart coaching (taking out Ray and the safety) by Danny Maciocia combined with Casey Printers looking bad coming in for Dave Dickenson led to the Eskimos hanging on for the Western Chamionship.

A few notes:
- B.C. is now 3-9 against Edmonton in the playoffs.
- This is the first time Edmonton has won two road games in the playoffs to qualify for the Grey Cup. So much for that loss in week 18, B.C.'s bye week and their home field advantage. :laughing:
- The commentating was awfully biased towards the Lions - especially that talentless play-by-play guy. I hope he doesn't call the game next week. Too bad we know it won't be Chris Cuthbert.
- Will Edmonton be faced with a quarterback controversy going into the biggest game of the season? Initially I say start Ricky Ray.

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/sports/maas_jasonCP051120.jpg

Now for the third time in four years, it'll be the archrival Montr?al Alouettes against the Edmonton Eskimos for the 93rd Grey Cup championship at B.C. Place Stadium in Vancouver next Sunday.

[slapshot™]

- The commentating was awfully biased towards the Lions - especially that talentless play-by-play guy.

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/sports/maas_jasonCP051120.jpg

Now for the third time in four years, it'll be the archrival Montr?al Alouettes against the Edmonton Eskimos for the 93rd Grey Cup championship at B.C. Place Stadium in Vancouver next Sunday.


The nutbar behind the mic was no other than our fave. Mark Lee *gag*

Montreal & Edmonton...a familiar Grey Cup matchup! Go Esks Go!

[PDO]

:boogie:

What a great game. I'd like to see Maas start, but that's me, the biggest Maas fan in the city saying that.. so yeah.

Charachter win for the boys. Put up with brutal officiating, the defense was great, forcing turnovers when they were needed and giving BC nothing most of the night. Flemming was perfect again. My only complaint the entire game about what the Esks were doing was taking hte penalty and not putting points on the board to make it an 8 point game. That said, pinning BC at their own 10 was a good move.. not sure why he just didn't punt it there though.

[Canucklehead]

Damn, that was a tough loss. Maas coming off the bench and doing better than Printers was the difference. I think Edmonton would be making a big mistake mistake to start Ray instead of Mass in the Grey Cup. I?m just not that sold on Ray being a great quarterback anymore. I believe he had almost the same amount of picks as touchdowns this year. Whenever I watch him it seems he throws deep into double coverage at lest once on every drive. Maas, on the other hand, seems to be much better at seeing the whole field, waiting for an opportunity, and picking up the first down. He has been spectacular in the two games he has appeared in this year.

The officiating was embarrassing by football standards, average by CFL standards. I liked Edmonton's first TD/non-TD. They call an incomplete pass, and pass interference on the BC cornerback. On the replay it clearly shows it was a TD, with no pass interference :laughing: . Didn?t really matter because Edmonton punched it in anyway, but I thought it was quite amazing that they got both calls wrong. On the final play of the game, regardless of whether or not it was pass interference, I was disappointed with Geroy?s effort. He gets bumped, so he gives up on the play? What? It?s the CFL Geroy! Even if it was interference, there?s no guarantee the refs will make the call.

Moving on to the vast media conspiracy against all the teams of Edmonton. Watch the Leafs on CBC or the Canucks on S-PAC. That?s bias. This was just a couple of idiots complementing whichever team was doing good at the moment.

Something that was bothering me was Edmonton kicking the ball out of bounds at the Lions 10 at the end of the game. I have seen a team punt the ball out like that millions of times, but never attempt a field goal like that. As far as I know, following a missed field goal the other team takes the ball wherever the field goal was missed from. Not from where missed kick went out of bounds. Besides, isn?t it easier to aim a punt out of bounds than a field goal? Strange.

Well, another disappointing year for the Leos. Nothing left to do but cheer like a madman for Montreal at the Grey Cup party.

GO ALOUETTES!!!!!!

:wicked:

[Canucklehead]

2 things:

1. Ray has been named the starter for the Eskies. (see post above for opinion on that)

2. I just saw the clip of the final play for the second time(I avoided any chance of seeing any clips last night) and I gotta say, I am pissed once again. And after I had recoverd so well, too. It was so obviously pass interference. So, I want to know what everyone else thinks. Was it pass interference?

[PDO]

2. I just saw the clip of the final play for the second time(I avoided any chance of seeing any clips last night) and I gotta say, I am pissed once again. And after I had recoverd so well, too. It was so obviously pass interference. So, I want to know what everyone else thinks. Was it pass interference?

#1) Carl Kidd hitting Ray 2 seconds after he threw the ball.
#2) Tucker PI.
#3) The ball was not in the air before the hit, so it was not in any way, shape or form pass interefernce. At absolute most, it was illegal contact on an eliglble receiver - a 10 yard penalty.
#4) Mobley is allowed his position. Simon ran into him. He was trying to draw the penalty, not catch the ball, that's why there was no call at all.
#5) It's only PI if it's called ;)

Direct quote from Mr. Mobley himself -

well let me sort this out for all of you since i'm home. I was standing my ground like in basketball. I have the right to stand there if he wants to run through me to get to the ball then fine the ball was thrown towards the inside the post route, not over my head, so he couldn't even if i wasn't there. yes it might have been close but the ball wasn't catchable. so the defense rests

George Black (CFL official head) was saying the same thing on the Team 1040.

[Canucklehead]

#1) Carl Kidd hitting Ray 2 seconds after he threw the ball.

I mentioned the reffing in the other post.

#2) Tucker PI.

See above.

#3) The ball was not in the air before the hit, so it was not in any way, shape or form pass interefernce. At absolute most, it was illegal contact on an eliglble receiver - a 10 yard penalty.

I'd have to see the clip again but I thought the ball had alreay been thrown.

#4) Mobley is allowed his position.

Yes, but it seemed he also gave a large shove causing Simon to go in the other direction. He did more than hold his own position. He was trying to draw the penalty, not catch the ball,

I agree. that's why there was no call at all.

You may be right, but Simon did not actually end up that far from the pass. The ball still apppeared to be catchable.

#5) It's only PI if it's called ;)

Yes, I'm sure you've never complained about missed PI calls before.;)

Direct quote from Mr. Mobley himself -

George Black (CFL official head) was saying the same thing on the Team 1040.

Well really, What else are they gonna say? "Boy, did we ever cheat those bastids out of that one!" :laughing:

[PDO]

I mentioned the reffing in the other post.



See above.

I blame ADD. Or TV. Maybe it's the computer..

I'd have to see the clip again but I thought the ball had alreay been thrown.

I remember seeing it and thinking that, and I've seen a few neutral fans agree (Stamp, Rider).

Yes, but it seemed he also gave a large shove causing Simon to go in the other direction. He did more than hold his own position.

Well yeah, he's not going to just stand there and get run over.. he's allowed to hold his position. This is football.. you take off at a player, he's allowed to push back ;).

You may be right, but Simon did not actually end up that far from the pass. The ball still apppeared to be catchable.

Wasn't catchable for 2 reasons.

1) Horrible throw.
2) Simon gave up on his route.

Yes, I'm sure you've never complained about missed PI calls before.;)

Never. Espeacilly one on Cavil in BC where the BC defender jumped on his back before the ball came and pushed him down that cost Edmonton the game. :thumb:

Well really, What else are they gonna say? "Boy, did we ever cheat those bastids out of that one!" :laughing:

Well, obviously Mobley is going to say that; but I'd think the head of officiating would either not have a comment or would simply admit his mistake (ie: NFL.. probally too much to ask from the CFL though).

[Canucklehead]

Well yeah, he's not going to just stand there and get run over.. he's allowed to hold his position. This is football.. you take off at a player, he's allowed to push back ;).

There is a middle ground between getting run over, and getting your hands up and shoving your opponent backwards. Like I already said, I thought Mobley did more than just stand his ground.


Wasn't catchable for 2 reasons.

1) Horrible throw.

The throw was fine.

2) Simon gave up on his route.


Same thing I said before. Even though he half-assed it and looked for the call, he still went forward and did not end up that far from the throw.

Well, obviously Mobley is going to say that; but I'd think the head of officiating would either not have a comment or would simply admit his mistake (ie: NFL.. probally too much to ask from the CFL though).

I Agree.

[PDO]

There is a middle ground between getting run over, and getting your hands up and shoving your opponent backwards. Like I already said, I thought Mobley did more than just stand his ground.

Not his fault he's stronger than Simon. Seriously, that's what it boils down to. Simon runs at him, and then complains that Mobley is built. Too bad so sad. Playing for the penalty is pathetic, giving up on the play to try and sell the penalty is just plain unforgivable.

The throw was fine.

You're the first Lions fan I've talked to who said it was a good throw. Most were in agreeance that if the ball was thrown to Simons outside shoulder he atleast has a chance on the ball.

[Canucklehead]

Not his fault he's stronger than Simon. Seriously, that's what it boils down to. Simon runs at him, and then complains that Mobley is built. Too bad so sad.

I still see it differently, but I'm not going to change your mind on this. Playing for the penalty is pathetic, giving up on the play to try and sell the penalty is just plain unforgivable.

I was very dissapointed with Geroy's effort.

You're the first Lions fan I've talked to who said it was a good throw. Most were in agreeance that if the ball was thrown to Simons outside shoulder he atleast has a chance on the ball.

I think you misinterpreted what I said. I didn't mean it was a great throw to Simon. I meant the throw landed close enough to Simon to warrant a PI call. I don't believe the throw was far enough off target to say it was un-catchable.

[PDO]

I still see it differently, but I'm not going to change your mind on this.

Much like I won't change yours? :)

I was very dissapointed with Geroy's effort.

As most are..

I think you misinterpreted what I said. I didn't mean it was a great throw to Simon. I meant the throw landed close enough to Simon to warrant a PI call. I don't believe the throw was far enough off target to say it was un-catchable.

Ball was a good what.. 10-15 yards away from him? MAYBE if he keeps running his route you can call it, but like I said, he was bumped around the 5 yard line, he gave up, and 3 seconds later the ball landed near the middle of the endzone.

If A) Printers throws a much better pass or B) Simon doesn't give up on the play, it's possible something happens. But, neither did. So it didn't.

Anyway, we'll have to agree to disagree here that it was/wasn't PI.

We do agree that CFL officials suck and Geroy shouldn't give up on the last play of the season though :boogie: