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bluemeanie
11-03-05, 4:02 PM
Might as well have a single thread dedicated to Leaf game discussions like some of the other team forums have.
I'll start her off with tonights tilt against the surprisingly offensive Juggernauts the Canes...
GAME: Toronto Maple Leafs (6-4-2) at Carolina Hurricanes (8-2-1).
TIME: Thursday, 7 p.m. EST.
The surging Carolina Hurricanes try for their sixth straight win when they take on the Toronto Maple Leafs at the RBC Center.
Carolina, considered one of the weaker teams in the Eastern Conference heading into the season, also puts a 5-0 home record on the line.
The Hurricanes' overall five-game winning streak is their longest since the franchise moved from Hartford to North Carolina in 1997. The five straight victories at home match Carolina's best such run since the move.
The Hurricanes defeated Ottawa, Boston and Philadelphia at home last week. Carolina overcame two-goal deficits in all three wins, as well as in Saturday's 5-3 victory at Pittsburgh, sparking the club's rise to first place in the Northeast Division.
"There seems to be more confidence when we are down a couple goals," said left wing Ray Whitney, who scored the winner Saturday. "It seems when we play with no inhibitions, we play much better."
Down 3-1 to the Penguins with less than eight minutes to play, Rod Brind'Amour, Glen Wesley and Whitney scored in rapid succession before Justin Williams added an empty-netter in the final minute.
The emergence of Eric Staal also has been key to Carolina's success. The second overall pick in the 2003 draft leads the NHL in points with nine goals and 13 assists in 11 games. He was named NHL offensive player of the month for October.
Staal celebrated his 21st birthday Saturday with four assists against the Penguins. In the 8-6 win over Philadelphia on Friday, he recorded his first three-goal game. Staal scored one of five third-period goals for the Hurricanes.
Toronto is the last team to beat Carolina, 5-4 on Oct. 20. It looked like the Maple Leafs would fall victim to a Hurricanes comeback when they allowed two third-period goals that forced overtime, but defenseman Ken Klee scored a power-play goal with 16 seconds remaining in the extra period for a 5-4 Toronto win.
Goals have been hard to come by for the Maple Leafs since that victory, as Toronto has scored just 10 goals in going 2-2-0-1 in the last five games.
Toronto rebounded from an 8-0 rout by Ottawa on Saturday with a 2-1 home victory over Florida on Monday. The Leafs got off to a rough start, allowing a goal to former Leaf Gary Roberts 26 seconds into the game, but got the win on a third-period goal by Alexei Ponikarovsky.
The Leafs were outshot 32-24, but Ed Belfour made 31 saves, two days after he allowed five goals and was pulled midway through the Ottawa blowout.
"We looked scared to lose and kind of played a little too conservative," coach Pat Quinn said of Monday's win over Florida. "It wasn't an easy or pretty victory, but one we can certainly build off."
STANDINGS: Maple Leafs - 14 points, 3rd place (tied), 5 PB, Northeast Division. Hurricanes - 17 points, 1st place, Southeast Division.
TEAM LEADERS: Maple Leafs - Eric Lindros, 8 goals; Bryan McCabe, 12 assists and 15 points; Wade Belak, 33 PIM. Hurricanes - Staal, 9 goals, 13 assists and 22 points; Mike Commodore, 19 PIM.
SPECIAL TEAMS: Maple Leafs - Power play: 26.5 percent (21 for 79), 2nd in NHL. Penalty killing: 86.1 percent (62 for 72), 6th. Hurricanes - Power play: 21.9 percent (16 for 73), 6th. Penalty killing: 80.0 percent (52 for 65), 17th (tied).
GOALTENDERS: Maple Leafs - Belfour (5-3-2, 3.51 GAA); Mikael Tellqvist (1-1-0, 2.73). Hurricanes - Martin Gerber (4-1-0, 2.58); Cam Ward (4-1-1, 3.07).
SEASON SERIES: Maple Leafs, 1-0.
LAST MEETING: Oct. 20; Maple Leafs 5-4, OT. At Toronto, Brind'Amour had a breakaway in the extra period but fanned on his shot before Klee thwarted Carolina's comeback with his goal.
ROAD/HOME RECORDS: Maple Leafs - 2-1-1 on the road; Hurricanes - 5-0-0 at home.
A must win for the Leafs. Hopefully we can regain some of our early season offence tonight in hopes to be back in form for Sundin's return either Sat or Sunday.
GLG
Madferret
11-03-05, 9:30 PM
That's how many times Lindros has layed a guy out without the puck?
Tsk tsk egg brain..
TimmyTabasco
11-03-05, 9:44 PM
Eric Cole is the man. 3 points tonight.
He is really coming into his own.
What a strange ending. A dive? Please! 5 minutes for boarding? Come on!!
9 out of 10 times when Kerry Frazier is involved in a hockey game it ends up being an odd one ;)
Steen, Staal, Cole and Stajan part of the young guns are the future. Good games by all. A loss, but the youth is keeping me interested.
Max Power
11-04-05, 11:03 AM
Where did all the leaf fans go?
I've never seen a leaf forum so quiet
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bluemeanie
11-04-05, 11:45 AM
Where did all the leaf fans go?
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Madferret
11-04-05, 11:57 AM
To Flaming Moe's?
THE HACK
11-04-05, 8:01 PM
What a strange ending. A dive? Please! 5 minutes for boarding? Come on!!
The reffing sucked badly but its been happening in other games too and thats why I'm watching less hockey.Its frustrating to see these refs call one thing one time and then not call it another time,like wtf is up with that.........call EVERYTHING!!!
Cole for diving is a joke when clearly he was tripped up by McCabe(cost Staal a hattrick and me a point in my hockey pool).But I think this was one of those late makeup calls as Cole should have had an interference penalty called on him about 15 seconds before he scored the winning goal when he clearly took out a Leaf player(think it was Stajan) along the boards when he didn't have the puck,why wasn't this a penalty because it costs us the game???:burning: The call on Lindros was correct as Ward didn't touch the puck.Ward also had his arms and stick in the air ready to hit the puck when Lindros hit him into the boards which is dangerous.
Cheers
Madferret
11-06-05, 5:36 PM
Anyone watching the Leafs/Caps game or what?
2-0 Caps..
TimmyTabasco
11-06-05, 8:41 PM
5-4 Caps final
Ovechkin with 2 goals :D
Madferret
11-06-05, 9:45 PM
5-4 Caps final
Ovechkin with 2 goals
The funny thing about that, I watched the game & one of the 'keys to victory' was to eliminate Ovechkin. With about 5 minutes left they revisited the keys and Joe & Harry essentially agreed that they did eliminate Ovechkin. Meanwhile, Ovechkin had scored 2 goals including the game winner..I know it's LeafsTV and they have a company line to tow but sheesh. Almost as bad as HNIC..lol
THE HACK
11-07-05, 7:04 PM
The funny thing about that, I watched the game & one of the 'keys to victory' was to eliminate Ovechkin. With about 5 minutes left they revisited the keys and Joe & Harry essentially agreed that they did eliminate Ovechkin. Meanwhile, Ovechkin had scored 2 goals including the game winner..I know it's LeafsTV and they have a company line to tow but sheesh. Almost as bad as HNIC..lol
Ovechkin upto that point was credited with 1 goal and it wasn't until with a few minutes remaining that they changed Wilsies goal and credited it to Ovechkin which happened to be the winning goal.But then you watched the game so you should of known that!:D
Washingtons powerplay won them that game while the Leafs powerplay was horrible.Washington deserved this victory and got it!
Cheers
Madferret
11-07-05, 7:16 PM
Ovechkin upto that point was credited with 1 goal and it wasn't until with a few minutes remaining that they changed Wilsies goal and credited it to Ovechkin which happened to be the winning goal.But then you watched the game so you should of known that!:D
Washingtons powerplay won them that game while the Leafs powerplay was horrible.Washington deserved this victory and got it!
Cheers
It was pretty clear that Ovechkin's shot went of Norris McCabe's stick, but I'll give ya that one Hackster..;)
I will agree that Washington's 29th ranked PP did win the game for them though..lol
THE HACK
11-07-05, 7:23 PM
It was pretty clear that Ovechkin's shot went of Norris McCabe's stick, but I'll give ya that one Hackster..;)
I will agree that Washington's 29th ranked PP did win the game for them though..lol
3 powerplay goals should push them to about 27th and they also got a shorthander in there too.I thought the Leafs would win this one but Washington showed me that they are alot better than I gave them credit for as they now also have 6 wins on the year(1 less than the Leafs:eek: ).
Cheers
They played 18 1/2 hrs after they defeated Tampa Bay. Was I the only one who thought there was a chance the Leafs could loose? 18 1/2 hrs.
Game interviews, sh!t, shave,and shower call the Wife, Girlfriend,(Boyfriend), Sons, and Daugters to say "I'm leavin, on a a jet plane....."
Ok so the sh!t, shave, and shower was before everything else!
Now tonights game should be a whole differnt result. I predict an Atlanta type game, with having 48 hrs of the last game seep in.
So who plays in place of Tucker, from what I understand he and no name from the caps get a 1 gamer due to the fight after the 3rd period?
I'm guessing Czernewskiewee wee (sp)
Max Power
11-08-05, 9:20 AM
Allison winging it
Struggling Leafs forward feels it's time for a change
By TERRY KOSHAN -- Toronto Sun
Caps show some pop
Steen moved to top line
Jason Allison recently told Pat Quinn he would do anything to breathe life into his tenure with the team.
Quinn is prepared to take him at his word.
The Maple Leafs coach, whose intent since the season began has been to use Mats Sundin, Allison and Eric Lindros as his top three centres, indicated he very likely will put Allison on the wing tonight against the Washington Capitals with rookie centre Kyle Wellwood and Alexei Ponikarovsky.
"He has offered that he will play anywhere," Quinn said of Allison. "He wants more ice time and maybe this will give him more ice time. He has said he will play any spot."
Allison, who has not scored a goal since Oct. 15 and has just four assists in the past nine games, initially denied asking for more ice time when he sought out Quinn. But he acknowledged yesterday after practice at Lakeshore Lions Arena that he has found it difficult in the early going to find a rhythm, and figures being on the ice more will only help.
In 15 games, Allison has two goals and 10 assists and is minus-7. He has averaged 18 minutes two seconds a game, but the Leafs need him to be better at even-strength. Allison has just three assists during 5-on-5 play.
"I've felt good at times, but I'm just not getting out there sometimes for long stretches. It has kind of killed me and my confidence has been pretty bad, too," Allison said. "We talked about a week and a half ago and I was more concerned with being in the flow of games. I am a player, who, over my career, has played an average of 21, 22 minutes and I rely on my feel and my instincts and my confidence."
Allison won't get that ice time here. The Leafs' top player for a decade, captain Mats Sundin, has averaged 19 minutes 56 seconds a game for the past six seasons.
Leafs forward Nik Antropov, who has been out since Oct. 15 with a knee injury, has been cleared to return and yesterday skated with Lindros and Darcy Tucker. Alex Steen was rewarded for his consistently fine play with a promotion to a line with Sundin and Jeff O'Neill. The other threesome had Matt Stajan between Chad Kilger and Tie Domi.
Forward Mariusz Czerkawski (shoulder) has not been cleared to play. Defenceman Aki Berg missed practice with a sprained knee and there are fears he could be out two weeks or more. Wade Belak could play defence tonight or the Leafs could recall Carlo Colaiacovo or Andy Wozniewski.
KILLED PENALTIES
Allison noted that he has killed penalties before in his career, but he has been on the ice a grand total of nine minutes 45 seconds during short-handed situations for the Leafs.
"If playing the wing is going to get me in the flow I am going to play better," Allison said. "When (he and Quinn) talked, it was not an issue of going in and whining and making excuses, it was more just trying to get the best out of myself. They pay me good money and they expect good things."
Madferret
11-08-05, 3:23 PM
Blue? Mike? Johnny? Boys, where for art thou? Come back fellas this place ain't the same without you Leafers!
Newfie John
11-08-05, 3:41 PM
Allison, you don't get icetime to improve your game. You improve your game to get ice time. You have to step up if you want more time. If I were Quinn I'd leave him where he was.
I could be eating a fine meal of crow if Allison does well on the wing(which i doubt, far too slow), but its what I think. My fear is Allison turning into this years Robert Reichel.
Madferret
11-08-05, 3:46 PM
Allison, you don't get icetime to improve your game. You improve your game to get ice time. You have to step up if you want more time. If I were Quinn I'd leave him where he was.
I could be eating a fine meal of crow if Allison does well on the wing(which i doubt, far too slow), but its what I think. My fear is Allison turning into this years Robert Reichel.
Allison IMO needs to go to some skating conditioning. If he could get some speed into his game that would help both the Leafs and his production.
The entire team is a -55! Allison isn't the only one that needs to be kicked in the rear end. Jeff O'Neil and Darcy Tucker are also a -7/8 who had played mostly with Jason Allison. Its only been a few games since Sundin has been back, enabling Quinn to set the lines as almost intended from day 1. I don't mind that Allison is on the wing, nor do I think it will be as bad as some think. Having 2 guys who can be the play maker on the same line isn't that bad an idea. Of Course when Allison skates it looks like he's doing in quicksand, but he still has 11 assists and 2 goals, and he is a hard guy to take the puck from. Its only game 16 people and only Mats 3rd game of the year.
Madferret
11-11-05, 10:42 PM
Leafs @ Sabres..anyone?
Where are you guys hiding?
:confused:
Well it'll be Montreal v. Toronto tonight. I'll be tuned in as I cancelled my CI subsrciption during the lockout and have decided not to re-subscribe. Hopefully this storied rivalry provides us with some more exciting hockey. I don't really care who wins, so long as it ends in regulation and 3 points aren't given out. I have a soft spot for the Habs as I rooted for them before Ottawa came to town, but Toronto being able to beat them and take away some of their momentum would be greatly appreciated. Meanwhile, Toronto is also a divisional opponent and it's always great to see a rival lose (espcially when they're in your division).
- Sheldon "Flash in the Pan" Souray may not suit up due to a foot injury.
- The season series is tied.
- Toronto is playing it's 2nd game in two nights, suffreing a 5-2 loss to Buffalo Friday.
Newfie John
11-13-05, 10:51 AM
Leafs win 5-4 in OT(sorry Man U). Wellwood had a beaut of a goal, and the drifter Allison got a lucky one, and also added an assist. Bryan Mccabe had 1 goal and 2 assists. Alex Ponikarovsky scored on a breakaway goal which Theo should've had. Jeff O'niell scored a proto-typical Jeff O'neill goal in OT with a rocket from the wing on the PP.
Ed Belfour made 30 saves in the effort.
I could only watch the end of the 3rd period and OT because I was away for basketball. I'm loving Alexander Steen. Bryan Mccabe looked good in the time I saw him. Kyle Wellwood had some real good shifts out there and when I seen his goal I got more confidence in my prediction that he'd be a good NHL player.
Where are you guys hiding?
:confused:Here they come.
:coffee:
Madferret
11-13-05, 11:29 AM
I don't know how on earth you take a 'too many men' penalty in the last minute of O.T., but good on the Leafs for making Montreal pay for that amatuer mistake.
Welcome back Leafers..
Man.Utd
11-13-05, 12:15 PM
Well, some thoughts:
- Wellwood needs more ice time. He led the team in shots with no PP time and only 8 minutes even-strength. Alas, watch the kid get sent down with Colaiacovo.
- Belfour looked good and bad (comparetively to his high standards that is) all at the same time. He made some huge saves and totally owned the first period. But there were two or three goals he could have had. Cherry pointed out he may have not seen those shots all the way, but the Eddie of past seasons would have made those big "look what hit me" saves. I'm not sure he's an elite goalie anymore. Still a legit #1 netminder no question, but he seems to have declined since the lockout with his age.
- Theodore wasn't all that great either. He should have had Poni's goal as John pointed out. Those SH markers are huge momentum builders and Theo should have stopped it.
- Allison got a very lucky goal to send it to OT, but it's never the pretty ones that snap a drought. Maybe he'll build off of this? Good on Toronto to pounce on that horrible penalty by Montreal in the extra frame. I'm not happy three points were given out, but witht he Leafs losing on Friday, I'd rather them get the extra point than the NE division leading Habs.
- Steen keeps on impressing. I'm gald all the Stajan hype has died down now that the Leafs (finally) have some real rookie talent in him and Welly. Matt's a nice player and a very safe bet but some Leafers were getting carried away with his upside.
- Antropov sucks. Trade him for whatever you can get and give his spot to Wellwood. Screw waiting for Big Nik, Wellwood's already better and has some good potential himself.
Madferret
11-17-05, 3:46 PM
McCabe and Leafs visit Bruins on TSN
Bryan McCabe and the Toronto Maple Leafs try to build on their first back-to-back wins in nearly a month when they visit the struggling Boston Bruins.
Viewers in the Leafs region can watch the game on TSN tonight at 7pm.
Toronto edged the New York Rangers 2-1 on Tuesday night, registering consecutive victories for the first time since a season-high four-game winning streak from Oct. 11-20.
The Maple Leafs once again relied on their league-leading power play as McCabe scored both goals with the man advantage. Toronto has converted 25.2 percent of its power-play opportunities, and McCabe leads all players with 17 points on the man advantage.
"It's like he's scoring at will right now," Toronto center Mats Sundin said of McCabe. "He's the best defenseman in the league right now."
Boston has responded well defensively this season, ranking seventh overall on the penalty kill. But the Bruins are struggling to close out games, losing five of its last seven games, including three via overtime or shootout.
Sergei Samsonov's third-period goal Friday got Boston even with the Islanders, but New York responded with three unanswered tallies en route to a 5-2 victory.
The third period has been problematic for the Bruins, who have outscored opponents 43-38 in the first two periods, but have been outscored 26-20 over the final 20 minutes.
"We can't keep saying we're close again, we're almost there -- because we're not," said goaltender Andrew Raycroft, who allowed four goals Friday after missing four games with a strained hamstring.
The Bruins hope to take advantage of their extended layoff to get back to basics.
"Nobody's happy with the way we've played, so we're just trying to get better," left wing Shawn McEachern said.
The teams split back-to-back meetings in October.
I think I heard Telly is playing this one.
bluemeanie
12-02-05, 9:56 AM
Only four goals against the thrashers... Leafs are obviously in a scoring slump. All around good game last night regardless. Telly played very well. SO's are hard to come by in this new NHL, but the Leaf skaters did their part to help the kid out with the big O. It will be interesting to see what moves are going to happen in our division, as a result of the Boston Masacre trade. Very tight race for second place in the NE. And I stand by my prediction that Boston starts to improve, and makes a push to join that race. JFJ, needs to make a move before Christmas.
Leafs_Fa_Life
12-02-05, 7:13 PM
JFJ, needs to make a move before Christmas.
Definitely. With Pilar out for the season now, we'll have to look for a boost on the blueline elsewhere.
I don't get it, and maybe I'm just not all there, but in the last 10 games the leafs have allowed on average 2.2 goals a game and scored 2.9 per game going 6ws-4ls during a very tough part of the schedule. Whats the problem?
They have been playing some pretty good D and perhaps thats why they have dropped off on the scoring sheet, but there isn't a reason to make a trade unless it blows your socks off.
There are other factors you have to think about. Every team has played a ton of games against the same teams over a short period of time. After awhile, even the worst player gets to know a little bit about what another is going to do. I will have to check this, but it does appear that the scorring avg is down the 2nd have of the first qtr over the first half.
The league is about to switch gears again with inter-conf play, I bet you top dollar over the next little while we'll see some really high scoring games again.
Paitence :)
bluemeanie
12-05-05, 12:30 PM
I don't get it, and maybe I'm just not all there, but in the last 10 games the leafs have allowed on average 2.2 goals a game and scored 2.9 per game going 6ws-4ls during a very tough part of the schedule. Whats the problem?
They have been playing some pretty good D and perhaps thats why they have dropped off on the scoring sheet, but there isn't a reason to make a trade unless it blows your socks off.
There are other factors you have to think about. Every team has played a ton of games against the same teams over a short period of time. After awhile, even the worst player gets to know a little bit about what another is going to do. I will have to check this, but it does appear that the scorring avg is down the 2nd have of the first qtr over the first half.
The league is about to switch gears again with inter-conf play, I bet you top dollar over the next little while we'll see some really high scoring games again.
Paitence :)
I really don't care about the high scoring games. I was jus joking about that in my previous post. I care about wins...this current Leaf team may get enough of them to get into the playoffs, but this team will not go far in the PO's. It's true what you say AMO, the Leafs are NOT all that bad, and they have improved somewhat on goal differential - Thanks to Eddie's improved play. But the Leafs still are being outshot almost every night - no matter who they play. That shows a strong need for improvement on defence in my books. And until they get some strong defensive defencmen working the point... This year will end like all the others... except we won't have the luxury of a free ticket to round two courtesy of the Sens this time around....
THE HACK
12-09-05, 12:53 PM
38 shots on Garon and we still lose to the Kings.Only 1 goal to show for this and 1-10 on the powerplay.This team STILL needs a scoring winger.With all of our centermen we have(possibly the best core in the NHL) why not trade one and get a scoring winger with a finishing touch.We've lost way too many 1 goal games this season and if this keeps up we won't be in the playoffs.We currently sit in the 8th and final spot,not good enough imo!
Cheers
Newfie John
12-11-05, 4:09 PM
We lost to the Stars last night 2-1. Did anyone see Coli's hit on Guerin? Whoa.. lol.
Madferret
12-11-05, 5:20 PM
We lost to the Stars last night 2-1. Did anyone see Coli's hit on Guerin? Whoa.. lol.
Good hit.
3 losses in a row at home? 8th place by 1 pnt? Surely JFJ will be making some shake up moves soon.
Newfie John
12-11-05, 5:31 PM
Good hit.
3 losses in a row at home? 8th place by 1 pnt? Surely JFJ will be making some shake up moves soon.
I doubt it. As soon as we get a game against the Canucks, and beat them, we'll go on a 16 game unbeaten streak.:nod:
Leafs_Fa_Life
12-12-05, 12:16 AM
Good hit.
3 losses in a row at home? 8th place by 1 pnt? Surely JFJ will be making some shake up moves soon.
Quinn just needs to put Sundin together with Lindros.
Yes sir, I can very used to Lindros in the middle, Sundin on one side and Domi on the other. The LSD Line, quick cue Darkside of the Moon ;)
Madferret
12-12-05, 3:01 PM
Quinn just needs to put Sundin together with Lindros.
Lindros is out with a 'significant upper body injury'.
Lindros is out with a 'significant upper body injury'.I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!! NA NA NA NA :curse:
Newfie John
12-12-05, 5:21 PM
Lindros will be in for tonight. I guess its not so "significant".
charlio lemieux
12-12-05, 6:33 PM
Lindros hurt? Why does that sound familiar?
Wrist injury sidelines Lindros
The slumping Maple Leafs will have to make do without Eric Lindros when they face Anaheim tonight.
Sportsnet.ca -- The Toronto Maple Leafs will be without Eric Lindros for tonight's game against Anaheim, and possibly a lot longer, because of a ligament tear in the forward's right wrist.
Lindros underwent an MRI in Toronto today, which revealed the extent of the injury.
Newfie John
12-12-05, 6:50 PM
Belfour has a "lower body injury".. Telly will get the start tonight.
Why am I happy to hear this?
How is it that this team can play a much more inspired game when they have a few missing players?
A brutal but not an unexpected result for this game. Expect a big spike in penalties league wide as the Board gave Walkom a green light to stay the course and this games proves it.
Time for a shake up, coaching change or a big trade. Its not going to change much for this year but Fergy needs to show he has the balls.
The Insider
12-17-05, 9:47 PM
Just wondering about a few things:
#1. How much does Belfour make?
#2. Who is our scoring winger on Sundin's wing?
#3. Is this team supposed to make the playoffs?
charlio lemieux
12-17-05, 9:50 PM
Just wondering about a few things:
#1. How much does Belfour make?
#2. Who is our scoring winger on Sundin's wing?
#3. Is this team supposed to make the playoffs?
1. Too much to make him tradable.
2. Scoring winger for Sundin? I'm sorry you've made a mistake. Doesn't exist.
3. Not playing like this. :D
Newfie John
12-18-05, 11:38 AM
Rip the team apart. This team will not win the Stanley Cup so why bother trying to make this team something its not?
Trade Sundin...
Trade Belfour
Trade Mccabe
Trade Tucker
Trade Klee
Trade Lindros
Trade Allison
Trade O'niell
In other words... firesale. Rebuild. Get a bunch of youngsters and picks.
charlio lemieux
12-18-05, 1:31 PM
Rip the team apart. This team will not win the Stanley Cup so why bother trying to make this team something its not?
Trade Sundin...
Trade Belfour
Trade Mccabe
Trade Tucker
Trade Klee
Trade Lindros
Trade Allison
Trade O'niell
In other words... firesale. Rebuild. Get a bunch of youngsters and picks.
The honorable thing to do would be to give Sundin the opportunity to retire as a Leaf. I don't think O'neill will be going anywhere either, because of his family. That's why he came here so I don't see him leaving. Also, at his salary it is not a big deal he is having a bad year.
Other than that:
Belfour to Vancouver for pick(s)
Allison, Klee to Edmonton for MAB + pick(s)
Lindros, Tucker to Calgary for pick(s)
McCabe to SJ for Marcel Goc and Doug Murray
Waive Belak, Berg and Czerkawski
Having seen evidence of some improvement in their play Pony and Antipony should be signed to cheap long term deals. Key words being Cheap and Long Term. I sometimes wonder if one of these guys will explode around 28 or 29.
Let's just give Kaberle a lifetime contract, 'nough said.
It is time to rework this team. We are not going to seriously going to contend playing the way we are. We have three #1 centers and none of them are getting enough ice-time. There is alot of tallent on this team but too much is concentrated at the Center position. With some improved play this team will most likely make the playoffs, but I don't think we have the defense to stop Ottawa or Philly. Healthy, and with a few tweaks we could challenge for the Stanley Cup, but it is time to rebuild. We can no longer simply buy players to fill voids, we need to develop them ourselves. We have some excellent assets, and we should take advantage of that.
Newfie John
12-18-05, 2:34 PM
Since when does MLSE have any honor? Trade Sundin.
The Insider
12-18-05, 3:35 PM
You know, we could talk forever about blowing up the team, who goes, who stays, what we get in return, but the only scenario that would have that as an option is come February/March the Leafs are too far out of a playoff spot and get into a rebuild mode. Right now is it clearly obvious what the problems are:
#1. Belfour has shown flashes of decent games, but he is a $6 million dollar goalie who has a record of (12-11-2) a save % of (.894) and a G.A.A. of (3.36). He has 0 shutouts and has now lost 5 consecutive games. 6 million dollars for a goalie in today's NHL is just far too much when you got guys like Biron, Grahame, Legace, Markannen making a fraction of Belfour's pay and putting up similiar numbers. I think that for the price he is getting paid, he is clearly not doing the job he has been expected of doing and right now our backup Mikael Tellqvist has had a better showing in the games he's played then Eddie has.
#2. Our $7 million dollar captain has 5 goals in 20 games. In this NHL where the stars are supposed to shine he is on pace to get under 20 this year. And it raises many questions too like: Is he still injured? Is he not getting the ice time? Did our GM drop the ball not bringing in a scoring winger to replace Mogilny? Has he given up on the team? Is his time up in Toronto? Now Mats is still a decent player, but I mean like Belfour in this salary cap based NHL for a $7 million dollar a season investment you expect a lot more.
#3. Despite only being with the team for a year and a half now, GM Ferguson has still not done anything in the ways of mapping out a plan for the team. His first season he made the big deal to bring in Leetch, but all that did was get us by Ottawa in round 1 and it costed us 2 prospects and 2 draft picks. Then in the summer when the option was there to change the face of the team, he elected to bring in Lindros for 1.5 and Allison for 1.5 who were in that risk factor and brought back Domi for 1.25, that there is 4.25 million dollars that could have been used to lure a guy to compliment Sundin on line 1, I mean you got a rookie with Mats and now with Czerkawski in last night have had 4 or 5 others on the other wing. I think JFJ is in way over his head right now and when he had the option to pick a direction for the team he still kept them in the pretender category rather then rebuilding or seriously contending. I think this has to be the time where he quits with this dream that the team is all going to come together and go on a tear, and come to terms with the reality that this team is not good enough to compete for the cup and he has to do something either rebuild or put pieces together for next season or the one after.
#4. As for the rest of the team, O'Neill I'll give him a little while before I put him in the Owen Nolan category, he has had a very tough time on and off the ice and I am sure he his not playing to the level he can be. But for everyone else:
Steen - Rookie still learning, playing very good for someone in his 1st NHL season
Allison - I think we're just satisfied he's made it this far into the season
Lindros - Started off good, cooled off and the went MIA, and like Allison we were satisfied he made it this long without injury, but now that he's injured the dream I guess is over.
Wellwood - Probably one of the few bright spots, but still hasn't really been given a chance beyond 4th line minutes and very limited if any PP play.
Stajan - Same as Wellwood, except he is a very good PK and is still learning like Steen.
Tucker - He's scoring, but you can see the new NHL has cut that physical edge out of his game and without it, he's just another 3rd liner.
Antropov - Has been learning for 4+ years now and is still at the same level, time I believe is running out for him.
Poni - Playing good this year, not great, average at best.
Wilm/Domi/Kilger - 4th liners, you get what expect out of them every night.
Czerkawski - Hard to make an opinion since he never plays.
Belak - How he is still employed in this league still baffles me.
#5. The defence I'll get to later, this is very depressing and I need a break :coffee:
charlio lemieux
12-19-05, 7:51 AM
You know, we could talk forever about blowing up the team, who goes, who stays, what we get in return, but the only scenario that would have that as an option is come February/March the Leafs are too far out of a playoff spot and get into a rebuild mode. Right now is it clearly obvious what the problems are:
#1. Belfour has shown flashes of decent games, but he is a $6 million dollar goalie who has a record of (12-11-2) a save % of (.894) and a G.A.A. of (3.36). He has 0 shutouts and has now lost 5 consecutive games. 6 million dollars for a goalie in today's NHL is just far too much when you got guys like Biron, Grahame, Legace, Markannen making a fraction of Belfour's pay and putting up similiar numbers. I think that for the price he is getting paid, he is clearly not doing the job he has been expected of doing and right now our backup Mikael Tellqvist has had a better showing in the games he's played then Eddie has.
That is the Catch 22 of the situation. For the dismantling of the team to happen, they have to be out of the playoffs. Which means losing. Which means Belfour's stock will be lower than it is right now. The only way to deal Belfour is after we have paid most of his salary, and for a conditional pick(s).
That way if he takes the team deep into the playoffs, we will get better prospects, and if he flops the new team won't be burnt. But in trading him to a playoff team the pick(s) will be late in the round anyway.
#2. Our $7 million dollar captain has 5 goals in 20 games.
Part of it has to be ice-time, but his production seems to drop when ever he plays with a visor. Maybe the equipment guys need to try a different kind of eye protection for Mats.
#3. Despite only being with the team for a year and a half now, GM Ferguson has still not done anything in the ways of mapping out a plan for the team. His first season he made the big deal to bring in Leetch, but all that did was get us by Ottawa in round 1 and it costed us 2 prospects and 2 draft picks.
MAXIM KONDRATIEV
New York Rangers 24
Position: Defenseman Shoots: Left
Height: 6' 1" Weight: 194
Born: Jan 20, 1983
Origin: Togliatti, RUS
Toronto Maple Leafs's 6th-round choice (168th overall) in the 2001 NHL Entry Draft.
2005-2006 Rangers 25gp 1g 2a 3pts +1 18pim
I liked this kid in the few Leafs games I saw him in. Dealing away the future and buying past-their-prime veterans has long been standard practice in Leafer Land. I was amazed when Stajan actually made the team last NHL season. And you know that in the old NHL Wellwood's spot would have gone to some aging former star. The New NHL is going to force the Leafs to develop young players. This is good.
#4. As for the rest of the team, O'Neill I'll give him a little while before I put him in the Owen Nolan category, he has had a very tough time on and off the ice and I am sure he his not playing to the level he can be.
There is no way his head is in the game right now. People need to understand this entire season will be a wash for O'neill. There is no way he can be focused every night while still dealing with his brothers death.
Madferret
12-19-05, 1:32 PM
11:01 AM: Leafs call up John Pohl
The Leafs injury watch is front and centre today. Toronto has called up "Pope" John Pohl to replace Alex Steen who injured his thumb in practice yesterday and is listed as day-to-day.
Eric Lindros and Nik Antropov have been placed on injured reserve, while Tie Domi is also day-to-day. Belfour did not skate at Leafs practice but will start tonight.
Line combos:
Tucker, Allison, Ponikarovsky
Stajan, Sundin, Czerkawski
Pohl, Wellwood, O'Neill
Kilger, Wilm, Belak
What happened to Calder Steen?
5:38 PM: Steen injured
Toronto Maple Leafs forward Alex Steen sustained a thumb injury at Sunday's practice at Lakeshore Lions Arena. He is listed as day-to-day.
Ahh..
Newfie John
12-19-05, 3:25 PM
Calder Steen?
Belfour starts tonight? Telly should be the starter, as far as I'm concerned.
Madferret
12-19-05, 6:03 PM
This is as big as they come for the Leafs so far.
Last time Ottawa blew them out they came back and won the next game 2-1 over Florida, so a win here would be huge. Check the standings..
NY Islanders @ Toronto
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Madferret
12-19-05, 7:30 PM
Any Leafers out there for this one?
Pucks dropping momentarily..
Madferret
12-19-05, 7:41 PM
Scramble in front, 1-0 Isles early in the first..
4-4 after one, high scoring affair! :eek:
Madferret
12-19-05, 8:31 PM
Crazy first period.
4-4 apres une
This first period was a wild one. 1-0 Isles. 2-1 Isles, 4-2 Isles. 4-4 tie. Leafs were 3-5 for about 4 minutes. Some bad calls all around. The Parish goal should not have counted. Excuse me but have they blacked out goalie interference in the rule book??
Frustrating.
2nd period after the break!
Madferret
12-19-05, 8:42 PM
Ya I think they've stopped calling the net crashing goal.
I've seen at least 10 of these in different games when the goal counted where it clearly woudn't have counted in years before.
5-4 Wellwood
Newfie John
12-19-05, 8:44 PM
Islanders will win 10-9.. lol.
Newfie John
12-19-05, 9:07 PM
8-4 after 2. lol. After we get this win for Eddie he better buck up. Wellwood with 3 points. 2 straight games with goals from Czerkawski, maybe he'll put another one of those mini streaks together, which would be nice.
Mccabe has ZERO points so far tonight. Wierd.
Madferret
12-19-05, 9:08 PM
Last time Ottawa blew them out they came back and won the next game
Leafs respond large!
I believe my work here is done..
Newfie John
12-19-05, 9:09 PM
Hopefully they can keep it up. The leafs need a big streak here.
Newfie John
12-19-05, 9:44 PM
4 points for Welly.. in like 9 minutes of ice time.
leaferfan87
12-19-05, 10:27 PM
4 points for Welly.. in like 9 minutes of ice time.
Well depending how bad O'Neill's injury is that might change.
4 points for Welly.. in like 9 minutes of ice time.Not to go off topic but John, check your 649 tickets and or start calling friends of family ;)
Btw this was an ugly game. Finally Eddie got Sawchuck off his back!
slapshot™
12-20-05, 12:40 AM
4 points for Welly.. in like 9 minutes of ice time.
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Everyone....git on up the bandwagon!
Well depending how bad O'Neill's injury is that might change.Just heard the news, its just a charlie horse and he isn't expected to miss any time.
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Everyone....git on up the bandwagon!
What? Are the Leafs favourites to win the Stanley Cup again?
What? Are the Leafs favourites to win the Stanley Cup again?They must be if fans of other teams keep talking about them. :rolleyes: The Toronto Maple Leafs are the least of your worries. Worry about Calgary, Vancouver, Colorado, and now San Jose and Anaheim creeping up from behind.
Newfie John
12-20-05, 6:18 AM
http://www.historians.org/projects/GIRoundtable/Polls/Images/image013.jpg
Everyone....git on up the bandwagon!
WTF are you getting on with.
Troll..
The Toronto Maple Leafs are the least of your worries.I don't worry about the Loafs, I laugh at them.
Newfie John
12-20-05, 8:17 PM
I don't worry about the Loafs, I laugh at them.
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TimmyTabasco
12-20-05, 8:33 PM
And there is John around the corner :thumb:
Newfie John
12-20-05, 8:37 PM
And there is John around the corner :thumb:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/gay9.gif
:laughing:
:rolleyes:
Lay off the personal attacks.
:rolleyes:
Lay off the personal attacks.Your a Seinfeld fan, theres nothing wrong with it. Besides, odds are there are a few gay broadcastors out there.
;) :pimp: :thumb:
Newfie John
12-21-05, 10:51 AM
:rolleyes:
Lay off the personal attacks.
Lay off the trolling. :coffee:
leaferfan87
12-24-05, 11:43 AM
Leafs got a tight 2-1 win over Boston yesterday. I was quite shocked to get the score on ESPN quite quickly here in South Florida. McCabe and Tucker scored and Belfour was excellent in net.
Now the Leafs don't play again until Monday when they play New Jersey I believe and then it's Sid the Kid.
Newfie John
1-07-06, 9:40 PM
Leafs beat the Oilers tonight 3-2. Mikeal Tellqvist was just outstanding while making 36 saves in the victory. Bryan Mccabe had 2 assists to give him 49 points on the year at the halfway point. He's on pace to get 98 points. Outstanding.
Leafs have won 6 of their last 7.
charlio lemieux
1-07-06, 9:46 PM
Crazy goaltending!
The Insider
1-07-06, 10:46 PM
Leafs played a bad game, but good some unbelievable goaltending to STEAL the 2 points from Edmonton. I don't know if it was fatigue, the immobile Leaf defencemen or the fact that the Oilers are just fast as hell, but they were breezing by the Leaf defence with ease and got several breaks with one quick stride through the neutral zone and had the Leafs eating their dust. Tucker is either tough as nails or as dumb as a mule because he plays regardless how injured he is and it was great to see him pot a goal late in the 1st with messed up ribs.
As for Telly, I cannot explain it, but comparing him now to when he was playing out on the rock in St John's, it is almost night & day. he has really picked up the Eagle as a backup and is an absolute upgrade to what Kidd was bringing us. Maybe he feels the pressure now the Rask and Pogge are showing up in the rearview mirror, or making a statement that you can't forget about him when it comes to future goaltenders. Either way, it's always good to have a bright future and now if we can fill spots up front and on "d" we'll be set. 1-1 so far on this trip, let's see if we can leave the West with a winning record :thumb:
Bad news,McCabe has a groin strain and won't be playing in Vancouver on Tuesday,have no idea how serious it is?
Cheers
Newfie John
1-09-06, 7:37 PM
I heard its day to day. Safe to say we're screwed.
Madferret
1-10-06, 9:00 AM
I heard Belak will fill in the 28 + minutes McCabe plays..
:boogie:
KB in Kelowna
1-10-06, 11:31 AM
Bad news,McCabe has a groin strain and won't be playing in Vancouver on Tuesday,have no idea how serious it is?
Cheers
Are you attending the game Hack? If I recall correctly you were at the last Leaf Cancuck tilt at GM Place? If you are going enjoy.:)
Are you attending the game Hack? If I recall correctly you were at the last Leaf Cancuck tilt at GM Place? If you are going enjoy.:)
No I'm not attending this game even though now I wish I did!I'll be going to Vancouver on the weekend so it didn't make any sense to me to go catch this Leaf game then go back home and then head back up to Vancouver 3 days later,just too expensive.I'm catching the game on pay per view tonight and have some of my Canuck buddies coming over,it should be fun!:)
Go Leafs Go!
Cheers
Newfie John
1-10-06, 6:50 PM
I'm comin Hack. I'll bring the Blue Star.
Newfie John
1-11-06, 3:17 PM
Leafs lost last night, though they outplayed the Nucks by a mile. Colaiocovo absolutely CLOBBERED Bertuzzi. One of the better hits I've seen him do.
charlio lemieux
1-11-06, 3:25 PM
Nice hit. If he starts throwing those around, it adds a whole new dimension to his game.
Newfie John
1-11-06, 5:37 PM
Nice hit. If he starts throwing those around, it adds a whole new dimension to his game.
He used to do it all the time in the A. So far this season the only huge ones he's done are the ones on Guerin, and this one on Bertuzzi. He goes after the big guys too. Good to see.
Leafs lost last night, though they outplayed the Nucks by a mile. Colaiocovo absolutely CLOBBERED Bertuzzi. One of the better hits I've seen him do.
Good hit by Coli,keep em comin!The Leafs started out slow but they really took over and dominated this game right to the end.The 3rd period was pretty much played in the Vancouver end with the Leafs really controlling the puck.If the Leafs keep playing like that they'll be hard to beat but this time the Canucks capitalized on some bad Leaf giveaways.Steens goal was totally awesome and even Alex Auld after the game said he couldn't beleive that Steen was able to score on him like that!Good effort by the Leafs in a losing cause!
Cheers
Newfie John
1-11-06, 8:01 PM
Interesting pattern. In the last 3 games... Belfour played 2 and Telly played 1. 2 games we lost, we were dominating the other team, but we lost. Belfour was in net for both. Telly was in net for the one win, while we were being dominated.
Start Telly!
THE HACK
1-14-06, 12:38 PM
Cujo's back in town and will get the start for the Coyotes,hopefully the fans give Cujo a big cheer for his contributions to the Leafs.:)
Bad news is that Darcy Tucker is done for sometime as he's been placed on the IR with his sore ribs.Good news is that Antropov is back and will be playing with Poni and Allison.Jeff O'Neill who has 4 points in his last 18 games has been put up on the top line with Sundin and Steen in hopes of getting him going again!
Go Leafs!
Cheers
Newfie John
1-15-06, 1:34 PM
Start Telly! Start Telly! Start Telly!
leaferfan87
1-15-06, 3:19 PM
Start Telly! Start Telly! Start Telly!
I think many are beginning to echo your sentiment NJ.
I think many are beginning to echo your sentiment NJ.
Yeah, Telly is great!
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Leafs_Fa_Life
1-15-06, 6:41 PM
Yeah, Telly is great!
http://www.worldofbubble.com/images/teletubbies_tinky_winky.jpg
No kidding. What puck could get past that:D
Newfie John
1-18-06, 6:07 AM
Leafs lost against Colarado last night. Belfour was absolutely BRUTAL! Start Telly for christ sakes.
leaferfan87
1-18-06, 1:24 PM
Leafs lost against Colarado last night. Belfour was absolutely BRUTAL! Start Telly for christ sakes.
I agree, that is three straight games in a row that Belfour has looked terrible. But, the team in front of him needs to play better as a whole. Stop taking stupid penalties and improve defensive coverage.
Newfie John
1-18-06, 3:53 PM
Leafs play Minny tonight. Telly is in.
Newfie John
1-18-06, 4:05 PM
The game is televised nationally on TSN aswell.
But, the team in front of him needs to play better as a whole. Stop taking stupid penalties and improve defensive coverage.
If the Leafs would have listened to you and they would have beat the Minnesota Wild but they didn't.They took stupid penalties and gave the puck away again!!!:mad: The defensive coverage was bad and was made worse when Khavanov was injured in the 1st period and left the game.Now the Leafs play the Sens twice with both games being played in Ottawa.The losing streak safe to say will reach 6 games in a row!:cry:
Cheers
Newfie John
1-28-06, 6:31 PM
Nothin like a big Saturday night HNIC special between the Leafs and Habs. Telly is in for the Leafs.
GO LEAFS GO!
The Insider
1-28-06, 10:00 PM
8 losses in a row now, and the only difference between this one and the other 7 were we actually got a gift point through the league's stupid point system. Tough to take any positives out of another loss and now something has to be done, cause sitting around waiting for Lindros and McCabe to come back is not working. It's tough to sit back and watch this team spin out of control and just watch as management and coaching does nothing, the lines pretty much stay the same expect the centres play musical chairs, we have 3 rookie defencemen in the lineup now and while it's nice to see the youth getting a chance to play, unless we are going with a full youth movement watching the youth play is futile for both the current and future editions of the team.
Madferret
1-29-06, 2:02 PM
8 in a row, ouch.
I can't believe JFJ hasn't made ANY moves whatsoever at this point..
Newfie John
1-29-06, 3:18 PM
8 in a row, ouch.
I can't believe JFJ hasn't made ANY moves whatsoever at this point..
Baffles me aswell.
8 in a row, ouch.
I can't believe JFJ hasn't made ANY moves whatsoever at this point..
I'm not sure JF knows what he's doing. It's time to clean house in a BIG way.
8 in a row, ouch.
I can't believe JFJ hasn't made ANY moves whatsoever at this point..I'm glad he isn't panicking like a lot of people. Most people knew it was going to be a stuggle and I'm thankfull that we still have Steen Stajan, Welwood, Poggie, Rask and all our future picks. :)
Sundin - Needs to waive is no trade and a team needs to be willing to eat 7 mil next year.
Allison - A team needs to be willing to eat the bonus award that he IS going to reach??
McCabe/Kaberle - Trade one or both and hope they can resign/sign Chara, Kaberle, McCabe or Redden?
For the above to be traded a lot needs to happen.
After the above mentioned names, who could be moved that would make this team better? Kilger, Wilm, Tucker, Domi?? You wouldn't get much of anything in return, just a status quo. After that there is Steen, Stajan, Wellwood, Kronwal, Newsky, and a bunch of other prospects and picks. Do we REALLY want JFJ to trade our future away like GM's of the past? I don't!!!
I'd rather wait for McCabe, Lindros and Tucker get back to full strength and try to squeek into the playoffs then make some knee jerk trade in hopes of winning the stanley cup.
RELAX and take a step back, besides if this team continues to tank that makes it easier for JFJ to fire Quinn, which is what most everyone wants anyway!
BTW, Leafs end the streak tonight :)
leaferfan87
1-30-06, 11:16 PM
WE WON WE WON WE WON
Finally.
charlio lemieux
2-04-06, 7:36 PM
Wow! It's a different team tonight.
They've had some good pressure on NJ and alot of luck.
3-0 in under 12 minutes.
Could easily still be 0-0, if it wasn't for some luck and two bad penalties by NJ.
charlio lemieux
2-04-06, 8:59 PM
I knew it was too good to last.
Leafs with a 3-0 lead heading into the third.
Leafs lead 3-2 at the 1:03 mark of the third.
Sheesh!
leaferfan87
2-05-06, 12:03 PM
I knew it was too good to last.
Leafs with a 3-0 lead heading into the third.
Leafs lead 3-2 at the 1:03 mark of the third.
Sheesh!
Leafs end up winning 4-2 after a very nailbiting third period. They just looked well stupid out there for a bit after the goal that made it 3-2, but I thought they settled down a little with Eddie being great until Kilger put away the empty netter.
Leafs_Fa_Life
2-05-06, 12:42 PM
Harrison looks like a keeper. He plays a simple game and is willing to play physical. I think he's playing his way onto the team and hopefully Fergie won't be able to send him back down when we start getting some bodies back. I just hope Carlo can return soon, since he's the only dman on the injured list that I miss having in the lineup (I'm sure most Leaf fans agree).
Leafs_Fa_Life
2-05-06, 12:42 PM
Harrison looks like a keeper. He plays a simple game and is willing to play physical. I think he's playing his way onto the team and hopefully Fergie won't be able to send him back down when we start getting some bodies back. I just hope Carlo can return soon, since he's the only dman on the injured list that I miss having in the lineup (I'm sure most Leaf fans agree).
charlio lemieux
2-06-06, 8:27 AM
Harrison has looked impressive. We need two more like him to fill out the Defense corps. I agree Coli is the only one of the injured D-men I want to see here next season, or after the Olympic break for that matter.
leaferfan87
2-28-06, 10:56 AM
Senor Ovechkin and his Capitals tonight. Eric is back in the lineup. It's now or never gentlemen.
I'l throw a brick at my tv tonight if Harrison is not in the lineup!! But with Klee and Khavanov returning!!! :mad:
Ok I have my brick ready
Wozniewski, Harrison Assigned to Marlies
(February 13, 2006)-- The Toronto Maple Leafs announced Monday that they have assigned defencemen Andy Wozniewski and Jay Harrison to the Toronto Marlies of the American Hockey League.
That was a press release dated feb 13th. It is now feb 28th and so far no press release stating they have been recalled for tonight!!! :burning: :mad: :curse:
Madferret
2-28-06, 12:30 PM
I heard Lindros is ready to go tonight?
I heard Lindros is ready to go tonight?Thats the word from up on high.
THE HACK
2-28-06, 11:57 PM
Lindros played tonight and took some big hits.
The Leafs lose again to Washington while the Canadiens win and are now up by 3 points with a game in hand.The Caps were ready from the get go while the Leafs floundered and now find themselves in BIG trouble.This loss is unaceptable for a team fighting for their playoff lives,they deserve to miss after this performance!:burning:
Cheers
Leafs_Fa_Life
3-01-06, 12:06 AM
they deserve to miss after this performance!:burning:
Cheers
No doubt. Completely outworked for most of the night.
THE HACK
3-01-06, 12:17 AM
No doubt. Completely outworked for most of the night.
The Leafs were also outhit and their special teams play was not good!
Cheers
Newfie John
3-01-06, 6:12 AM
Fergy better trade some guys for the future at the deadline. One would be Mccabe. Tucker would probably get a good catch too. I'd love to see Sundin go but I doubt that'll happen.
Fergy better trade some guys for the future at the deadline. One would be Mccabe. Tucker would probably get a good catch too. I'd love to see Sundin go but I doubt that'll happen.Take this for what its worth but I saw this in a chat room last night from a Rangers fan that they are high on either Tucker, McCabe or Tkachuk and are willing to part with Montoya.
scorpionn
3-01-06, 11:14 AM
I'd love to see Sundin go
Why?
We won't get anything for him, look at what someone like Fedorov was dealt for... around the same amount of money per season.
Teams don't have the cap room, why would they take on Sundin's contract for anything other then what would be a crappy deal for the Leafs... IMO its not worth dealing your captain, the heart and soul of your team for something that won't even help you in the future... again, look at the Fedorov deal. We'd get a return similar to that... not worth it.
Madferret
3-01-06, 12:25 PM
Tucker accuses Capitals of snickering
By MIKE ZEISBERGER
Toronto Sun
Darcy Tucker accused some Washington Capitals of "laughing" at the Maple Leafs in the waning moments of the Caps' 5-3 victory last night.
Tucker refused to identify any of the alleged snickering visitors, only remarking that "it just wasn't fun."
If, in fact, the Caps were guffawing on the bench -- a suggestion defenceman Brendan Witt claimed was not true -- they were the only ones in the building wearing a smile.
"He must have been frustrated," Witt said of Tucker. "It was a big game for them."
There certainly was nothing to chuckle about for Maple Leafs chairman of the board Larry Tanenbaum, general manager John Ferguson, coach Pat Quinn or the capacity crowd of 19,449 at the Air Canada Centre, who watched the moribund Leafs fall three points behind the eighth-place Montreal Canadiens in the battle for the final playoff spot in the Eastern Conference.
While the Habs were defeating the New York Islanders 5-3 on Long Island, the Leafs dropped their third decision in four outings to the lowly Caps, a team that started the evening in 28th spot in the 30-team NHL.
"Maybe we aren't as good as we think we are because we haven't beaten teams below us," Quinn said.
"In fact, in the past month, we haven't beaten the teams above us, either."
Olympic gold medallist Mats Sundin understandably was suffering from jet lag after arriving from Sweden yesterday morning. The remainder of the Leafs had no such excuse.
In fact, they looked like they were still on an Olympic-break vacation while allowing goals by Brian Willsie just 37 seconds into the game and Alexander Ovechkin 19 seconds into the second period.
"If we keep making mistakes like that, we won't be in the playoffs," Quinn said.
Things don't get any easier in the next week, either.
The Leafs travel to Buffalo Friday to meet the speedy Sabres at the HSBC Arena, a place that has been a house of horrors for Quinn's team over the years.
One night later they play host to the Ottawa Senators, who have beaten the Leafs all six times this season while outscoring Toronto 36-12.
Then comes a date against the resurgent Habs next Tuesday.
Goaltender Ed Belfour looked particularly sluggish after the Olympic layoff, earning him several rounds of Bronx cheers.
Given his shaky play, the sarcastic reception was well deserved.
Should the Leafs fade in the next week, it has been suggested that Ferguson might consider dealing Belfour to a contender in need of a first-string goalie by the trade deadline on March 9.
But it's hard to believe there would be much interested in the 40-year-old veteran, who really has struggled this season.
"You can't do anything about bad bounces," he said.
This team's woes run deeper than "bad bounces."
Matt Pettinger chipped in with a pair of goals, while Ben Clymer also scored for the Caps.
Tucker, Nik Antropov and Chad Kilger replied for the Leafs, who welcomed Eric Lindros back into the lineup after No. 88 missed 80 days with a torn ligament in his wrist.
Lindros did score in the second period when he scooped the puck in with his glove, a goal that was immediately waved off.
"My timing was a bit off," Lindros said. "The more you play, the better it will get."
The Leafs must get better in a big hurry or they won't be playing at all come late April.
And that's nothing to laugh about.
'HOW DARE YOU LAUGH AT ME...I'M DARCY TUCKER!!'
The boy cries wolf again eh...
charlio lemieux
3-01-06, 1:39 PM
Why?
We won't get anything for him, look at what someone like Fedorov was dealt for... around the same amount of money per season.
Teams don't have the cap room, why would they take on Sundin's contract for anything other then what would be a crappy deal for the Leafs... IMO its not worth dealing your captain, the heart and soul of your team for something that won't even help you in the future... again, look at the Fedorov deal. We'd get a return similar to that... not worth it.
Totally agree. Sundin should just be considered an Untouchable, because we will never ever, get enough in return to replace what he can bring to this team. Even if it is only 75% of what he used to be able to do.
Macabe - If we had traded him before Christmas he would be worth two or three times more than what he will get now. San Jose and the NY Rangers need a PP specialist on the point.
Belfour - Just give him his $1Million buyout for next year. Send him to Hawaii, and let Telly get some regular playing time. I would love to see Pogge get a start or two if his WHL season is done before the Leafs pack it in.
Tucker - He has become the Leafs most valuable asset. He still has one more year on his contract, so he is not just a rental player. Package him up with McCabe or Allison, and get a bluechip prospect.
Allison - Has shown he can still produce. He just needs someone who is defensively minded to play with, to help with his +/-. Calgary, Vancouver or Nashville would be where I would shop this guy.
Lindros - He should be available next year at roughly the same price he was this year. He wants to be a Leaf, and you can't agrue with the price. I think the Leafs will keep him. He will get nothing in a trade.
Klee - Veteran #3-4 or 5 D-men are at a premium this time of year. He might be worth a 3rd or 4th round pick to the right team.
Berg - Same idea as Klee but won't get as much in return.
Khavanov - Could fetch close to what Klee does, but again, nothing substantial.
leaferfan87
3-01-06, 3:54 PM
Take this for what its worth but I saw this in a chat room last night from a Rangers fan that they are high on either Tucker, McCabe or Tkachuk and are willing to part with Montoya.
As if we needed another goaltending prospect!
Max Power
3-02-06, 9:01 AM
'HOW DARE YOU LAUGH AT ME...I'M DARCY TUCKER!!'
The boy cries wolf again eh...
How dare the other bench be in a good mode when he is not
As well as he's playing this year I'm more and more convinced the man is crazy
leaferfan87
3-02-06, 10:58 AM
'HOW DARE YOU LAUGH AT ME...I'M DARCY TUCKER!!'
The boy cries wolf again eh...
Quite frankly they deserved to get laughed at the way they played Tuesday.
charlio lemieux
3-02-06, 2:04 PM
Hard to blame someone for laughing at a joke!
THE HACK
3-04-06, 12:26 AM
Leafs lose to Buffalo 6-2 and now sit in 11th spot!:cry:
I'm really hoping that Ottawa beats us tommorrow and JFJ wakes up and starts making some moves.I was thinking that JFJ should let Quinn finish out this season but now I think they should can him and just let Paul Maurice take over.And if JFJ ends up signing McCabe to a $5.5 mil a yr deal then he should be fired too!
Cheers
Leafs lose to Buffalo 6-2 and now sit in 11th spot!:cry:
I'm really hoping that Ottawa beats us tommorrow and JFJ wakes up and starts making some moves.I was thinking that JFJ should let Quinn finish out this season but now I think they should can him and just let Paul Maurice take over.And if JFJ ends up signing McCabe to a $5.5 mil a yr deal then he should be fired too!
CheersAfter this game I was thinking the very same thing, but I thought a bit more about it and decided what would be the point of disrupting not one but two teams down the stretch. Let quinn finish out the season and simply not re-sign him in the off season, and then give Maurice a fresh start. As for McCabe I think we'd get more value if he was signed to the rumoured 4 year 22 mil (5.2 per) deal and then traded at or near draft day, or even a sign and trade at the mar 9th deadline.
I call this manouver the Hossa shock and awe sign and trade ;)
After this game I was thinking the very same thing, but I thought a bit more about it and decided what would be the point of disrupting not one but two teams down the stretch. Let quinn finish out the season and simply not re-sign him in the off season, and then give Maurice a fresh start. As for McCabe I think we'd get more value if he was signed to the rumoured 4 year 22 mil (5.2 per) deal and then traded at or near draft day, or even a sign and trade at the mar 9th deadline.
I call this manouver the Hossa shock and awe sign and trade ;)
I heard that Quinn has 1 more yr remaining on his contract,hope this is false news but if its true then might as well let Quinn go now!I'd really like to see the Leafs get Derek Morris from Phoenix and sign him to a long term deal because he'd come cheaper than McCabe and is a better skater.With that money you save you can sign a player like Rob Blake in the off season to help tutor our young defense.Your sign and trade works well too!:thumb:
Cheers
leaferfan87
3-07-06, 10:24 PM
Leafs won 5-3 against Montreal tonight. Sundin had a strong game, more games like that from him will go a long way down the road.
Leafs_Fa_Life
3-07-06, 10:26 PM
I'm glad the Leafs beat the Habs, but fear that this win will give the front office false hope about this team going into the deadline.
bluemeanie
3-08-06, 8:49 AM
I'm glad the Leafs beat the Habs, but fear that this win will give the front office false hope about this team going into the deadline.
Yeah, I hear ya. Unless the Leafs can keep that pace up for the remainder of the regular season and still turn it up a notch in the playoffs... last night's game may end up being the first wrong turn toward ending up on the wrong side of the tracks next year. If speculation is true, that last night?s game would act as the basis for any activity by the trade deadline, we may have missed out on landing some early picks or youth to build on.
Oh well, first win in....what? A month? We're on fire now. Go Leafs Go.:slant:
charlio lemieux
3-08-06, 11:27 AM
Yeah, I hear ya. Unless the Leafs can keep that pace up for the remainder of the regular season and still turn it up a notch in the playoffs... last night's game may end up being the first wrong turn toward ending up on the wrong side of the tracks next year. If speculation is true, that last night?s game would act as the basis for any activity by the trade deadline, we may have missed out on landing some early picks or youth to build on.
Oh well, first win in....what? A month? We're on fire now. Go Leafs Go.:slant:
Yep, time go out and trade Stajan for Zhamnov and Wellwood and Harrison for Chelios. God knows how valuable veteran leadership is in the playoffs. :rolleyes: #@%^%$ Leafs brass, bunch of idiots. If they aren't selling the future, they are quite happy to cling to the mast of an obviously sinking ship. JFJ should have made trades before Christmas, when a player like McCabe would have been worth a lot more than he is now.
I got a feeling it is going to be a slow day tomorrow. That should make the sports channels happy, since some of them have 8 or 9 hours of deadline coverage scheduled.
leaferfan87
3-08-06, 11:31 AM
JFJ should have made trades before Christmas, when a player like McCabe would have been worth a lot more than he is now.
Why this team was playing very well around that time of year, alot better than people suspected they would. There was no cause for concern then.
charlio lemieux
3-08-06, 11:50 AM
I said at the time McCabe will never be worth more he is as the leading scorer among defensemen. At that time to a team like San Jose, McCabe could have been viewed as the missing piece to put them into the playoffs. What is he now? A rental player. The Leafs would be extremely lucky if they got a 2nd Rnd draft pick for him now. In December they could have got atleast a pick and a prospect, if not a roster player and a pick in return.
There didn't need to be cause for concern. Going by his previous contract negotiations, it was a safe bet that McCabe would try to get as much money as possible. Money the Leafs don't want to spend on him. Holding on to him was a mistake.
In December McCabe was a Norris Trophy candidate.
Now, McCabe is just an offensive D-man who wants to break the bank with this next contract. A rental player, and nothing more.
He is now basically worthless in a trade.
Madferret
3-08-06, 12:42 PM
What if JFJ traded him to a team looking for a rental for a couple of good draft picks or a bluechipper, then re-sign him in the summer? That would work out nicely for the Leafs and is possible.
charlio lemieux
3-08-06, 12:50 PM
He isn't worth that much now. Maybe one draft pick. I doubt anyone would part with a bluechip prospect, for McCabe at this point.
Madferret
3-08-06, 12:55 PM
He isn't worth that much now. Maybe one draft pick. I doubt anyone would part with a bluechip prospect, for McCabe at this point.
Regardless of what they get for him, if they trade him with the plan to resign him in the summer it's still win-win.
bluemeanie
3-08-06, 1:07 PM
Regardless of what they get for him, if they trade him with the plan to resign him in the summer it's still win-win.
If the Leafs want to get into a bidding war this summer over a d-man, it should be Redden not McCabe.
charlio lemieux
3-08-06, 1:10 PM
Why would they let the other 29 teams in the league have a shot at signing him if that is their plan?
If the Leafs want to resign McCabe then they will keep him. That way they have until July 1 to be the only team able to negotiate with him.
If they trade him he could have a $6million dollar offer on his plate by the time he would get to talk to JFJ again. It could as easily be a lose-lose as it could be a win-win situation.
Madferret
3-08-06, 1:43 PM
If the Leafs want to get into a bidding war this summer over a d-man, it should be Redden not McCabe.
If I was JFJ I'd go after Chara before I went after Redden..
charlio lemieux
3-08-06, 1:44 PM
Won't Mucks have Chara signed?
Madferret
3-08-06, 1:50 PM
Won't Mucks have Chara signed?
Hopefully but if they're both UFA's in the summer and I'm a GM I'm going after Z first.
Leafs_Fa_Life
3-10-06, 6:04 PM
Sportsnet is reporting that Tie Domi is a healthy scratch tonight against the Isles:boogie:
Ondrus will get his second start :)
What a piss poor effort by the Leafs,hope you're proud of this playoff calibre team now JFJ!:rolleyes:
How the hell can you not beat an Isles team that just dished Parrish,Sopel and Kvasha,this is :burning: inexcusable!!!I've been mad at my Leafs plenty of times but this week has been a horrible week for this organization!:mad:
We now play the TB Lightning and if we lose this one then its all over and it should also be over for Quinn and Fergie!
Cheers
THE HACK
3-12-06, 12:42 AM
Well a new day new result as the Leafs beat the Lightning 5-1! Finally this team puts up a good effort and were rewarded with a victory.Makes you wonder why the Leafs can't play like this most of the time.Good game by Tellqvist and today Jeff O'Neill was the healthy scratch.
Cheers
Newfie John
3-12-06, 10:42 AM
Domi first, now O'niell. Keep em comin Quinn.
leaferfan87
3-13-06, 3:39 PM
I don't know if the Leafs played great in that third period on Saturday or if the Lightning were just so brutal.
Newfie John
3-14-06, 7:27 PM
Leafs have the Brad Boyes and the Boston Bruins come to town tonight. I cannot believe that Nolan trade... GAH! We could have really used Boyes this season.
The Insider
3-16-06, 10:05 PM
You know your bad when Mike Grier makes you look like a pylon. We played as well as you could against the speedy Sabres, an awesome crowd made it even better, and we lose because Aki Berg doesn't take the body like you are taught as a minor leaguer and Grier gives this team's playoff hopes another setback. I do not understand how on a 1 on 1 rush with 2 of your players backing you up, you do the cardinal sin and let the guy beat you, especially someone like Grier, who let's face it, isn't a scorer. Not much else you could say, the effort was there, the execution wasn't and for their part, the Sabres really limited our scoring opportunities by either blocking shots or knocking the puck away.
THE HACK
3-17-06, 12:25 PM
You know your bad when Mike Grier makes you look like a pylon. We played as well as you could against the speedy Sabres, an awesome crowd made it even better, and we lose because Aki Berg doesn't take the body like you are taught as a minor leaguer and Grier gives this team's playoff hopes another setback. I do not understand how on a 1 on 1 rush with 2 of your players backing you up, you do the cardinal sin and let the guy beat you, especially someone like Grier, who let's face it, isn't a scorer. Not much else you could say, the effort was there, the execution wasn't and for their part, the Sabres really limited our scoring opportunities by either blocking shots or knocking the puck away.
I thought the Leafs played a hell of a game,the intensity was fierce with loads of bodychecks.Only if the Leafs would have played like this before we would be in a playoff position.There was alot of good the Leafs can take out of this game with the effort being one of them.And yes,Berg SUCKS and its time he was benched!
Cheers
bluemeanie
3-17-06, 12:50 PM
I thought the Leafs played a hell of a game,the intensity was fierce with loads of bodychecks.Only if the Leafs would have played like this before we would be in a playoff position.There was alot of good the Leafs can take out of this game with the effort being one of them.And yes,Berg SUCKS and its time he was benched!
Cheers
I listened to the game on the radio because I was stuck at the office, but it did sound like they played a pretty physical game. Which is exactly what they need to do against a team like Buffalo. And it was a far cry from the last time buffalo visited Toronto, I went to that game and nobody showed up for the Leafs. These past few games have given us some hope, if not to make the playoffs this year, than atleast we have a team that hasn't totally given up on it's captain. Sundin has been one of the best players in the league the past couple of weeks. He's doing what a captain should be doing and what he's always been accused of never doing. And that's leading. They have a new found energy, and it's all thanks to him. Unfortunatly, he didn't do it all year, like his counter part Alfredsson did. But alas, last night was a glareing example of why there's not much of a point in killing them selves to make the PO's this year... they just don't have the legs to beat Buffalo, Carolina or Ottawa.
THE HACK
3-17-06, 12:58 PM
I listened to the game on the radio because I was stuck at the office, but it did sound like they played a pretty physical game. Which is exactly what they need to do against a team like Buffalo. And it was a far cry from the last time buffalo visited Toronto, I went to that game and nobody showed up for the Leafs. These past few games have given us some hope, if not to make the playoffs this year, than atleast we have a team that hasn't totally given up on it's captain. Sundin has been one of the best players in the league the past couple of weeks. He's doing what a captain should be doing and what he's always been accused of never doing. And that's leading. They have a new found energy, and it's all thanks to him. Unfortunatly, he didn't do it all year, like his counter part Alfredsson did. But alas, last night was a glareing example of why there's not much of a point in killing them selves to make the PO's this year... they just don't have the legs to beat Buffalo, Carolina or Ottawa.
Sundin has been playing good lately and the best part is that he's finally starting to hit people on a consistent basis and leading.Is it also a coincidence that the Leafs are playing like they're full of energy ever since Ben Ondrus made this Leaf team?
Cheers
It must be the stick he borrowed off of Alfredsson. :wicked:
bluemeanie
3-17-06, 1:54 PM
It must be the stick he borrowed off of Alfredsson. :wicked:
The pink one?
I dunno what colour it was. Golden probably. ;)
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp?content=20060315_113951_4908
After the tear that Sundin has been on there's no way Alfie is going to give Mats another stick especially his pink stick,besides pink is Alfie's favourite colour!;)
Cheers
charlio lemieux
3-17-06, 2:29 PM
After the tear that Sundin has been on there's no way Alfie is going to give Mats another stick especially his pink stick,besides pink is Alfie's favourite colour!;)
Cheers
I hear it matches his Tutu.
I hear it matches his Tutu.
:rollover2 can you say Daniella Alfredsson!:D
Cheers
Mick McGoo is my hero!! That BS call on Steen, set the tone. Oh well GO PITTSBURG!!!
Pat Travers - Boom Boom (Out Go The Lights) :laughing:
A much needed road win and 2 points.
It's pretty lame how the Loafs need a third period penalty shot to beat the worst team in the league. If anything, they don't deserve to be in the postseason. Oh and Telvist only had to make 21 saves for the "shutout". Big deal.
bluemeanie
3-20-06, 11:29 AM
It's pretty lame how the Loafs need a third period penalty shot to beat the worst team in the league. If anything, they don't deserve to be in the postseason. Oh and Telvist only had to make 21 saves for the "shutout". Big deal.
You're all class JR! :thumb:
It's pretty lame how the Loafs need a third period penalty shot to beat the worst team in the league. If anything, they don't deserve to be in the postseason. Oh and Telvist only had to make 21 saves for the "shutout". Big deal.Isn't it great? They won inspite of their in different play, pretty much how every Battle Of Ontario has gone up to this point. :thumb:
Oh and JR, not that I want this to happen, because I want every Canadian Team to make it, but it might a sweet feeling if the Leafs make it and the Oil don't. You might want to stick to the backup plan you always carry in your pocket. The Ottawa Senators, watch out for whiplash ;)
Madferret
3-20-06, 11:42 AM
Hey how did we (Sens) get dragged into this ?
Hey how did we (Sens) get dragged into this ?Its a good thing, because if there is another battle this year, chances are it will be a result you and *ahem* J.R can live with ;)
bluemeanie
3-20-06, 11:47 AM
Hey how did we (Sens) get dragged into this ?
...the price of being at da top baby. :wicked:
Madferret
3-20-06, 11:49 AM
...the price of being at da top baby. :wicked:
lol
This week will determine if we got another B.O.O maybe in the works..
Newfie John
3-20-06, 1:19 PM
It's pretty lame how the Loafs need a third period penalty shot to beat the worst team in the league. If anything, they don't deserve to be in the postseason. Oh and Telvist only had to make 21 saves for the "shutout". Big deal.
www.sportsnet.ca
Leafs are now 3 points out of the playoffs. Last week we were 8 points out. With Belfour out of the picture we should make it. If Belfour had of played last night we would have lost 3-1.
leaferfan87
3-20-06, 2:00 PM
It's pretty lame how the Loafs need a third period penalty shot to beat the worst team in the league. If anything, they don't deserve to be in the postseason. Oh and Telvist only had to make 21 saves for the "shutout". Big deal.
I think you should be concerned with your team potentially dropping out of the playoff hunt. The race is tight.
Newfie John
3-21-06, 9:54 PM
Leafs beat one of the best teams in the league Carolina Hurricanes tonight 3-2. Mikeal Tellqvist made 33 saves in the win. Caber had 2 assists, Steen with a goal and an assist. Suglobov played his first game for the leafs and looked good.
Now lets get those habs.
bluemeanie
3-22-06, 9:04 AM
Leafs beat one of the best teams in the league Carolina Hurricanes tonight 3-2. Mikeal Tellqvist made 33 saves in the win. Caber had 2 assists, Steen with a goal and an assist. Suglobov played his first game for the leafs and looked good.
Now lets get those habs.
Our back-to-back games with the habs this week will be playoff caliber stuff Johnny. It might be the closest we get this year. But there's still enough time left to see anything happen... Heck, even O'neill looked a little like he wanted the win last night...
I've forgotten how fun it can be here down in 10th.
Newfie John
3-22-06, 10:52 AM
If this team wanted it every night we'd be so much better. How many times do you see everyone throwing hits and trying their hardest? When you see Sundin laying people out you know the leafs will win.
Newfie John
3-23-06, 6:12 AM
Leafs play the Habs tonight in absolutely huge game. Our biggest game of the year thus far without doubt.
Madferret
3-23-06, 12:19 PM
Should be a good game. Leafs seem to have the edge on the Habs this year..
charlio lemieux
3-23-06, 2:00 PM
The Leafs had better win if they want to keep any hope of the playoffs alive.
leaferfan87
3-23-06, 2:57 PM
Gotta play like its game 7 of the playoffs tonight and Saturday. Are Bell and Suglobov still in the lineup?
I'll be watching most tonight and Saturday.
Saturday night's game is one that is worthy to be shown on Hockey Night In Canada.
Newfie John
3-23-06, 4:26 PM
Gotta play like its game 7 of the playoffs tonight and Saturday. Are Bell and Suglobov still in the lineup?
I don't think Bell will be but I think Sugs will be on the top line with Sundin and Steen.
Madferret
3-23-06, 4:32 PM
I don't think Bell will be but I think Sugs will be on the top line with Sundin and Steen.
lol
Only in T.O. does a fringe AHLer get Line 1 duties..
Oi John click HERE (http://www.hockeystation.com/showthread.php?t=2506) to predict when the Petes' are going to knock off the 67's..
Newfie John
3-23-06, 4:42 PM
lol
Only in T.O. does a fringe AHLer get Line 1 duties..
Oi John click HERE (http://www.hockeystation.com/showthread.php?t=2506) to predict when the Petes' are going to knock off the 67's..
Well he's our 5th best prospect. He played well in his only game so far so why not try em on the big line. No one else except Tucker really deserves to be there anyway.
bluemeanie
3-23-06, 4:53 PM
lol
Only in T.O. does a fringe AHLer get Line 1 duties..
C'mon man, you know how hard it has been finding that bonified winger for Sundin... here's our big chance to finally see some real net bullgin' damage happen.
Playoff Game 1: Leafs Vs Habs A must win!!! Bring your best game fellas!!!
Newfie John
3-23-06, 8:04 PM
It's amazing how much having Berg and Khavanov can handicap a team. Jesus Christ..
Ok the fat lady has finished warming up her voice and is about to start singing. Does anyone know when the NHL will release the 2007 schedule?
charlio lemieux
3-23-06, 11:12 PM
Pathetic display.
Madferret
3-24-06, 12:50 AM
Quinn got out coached large. Toronto didn't play that bad effort wise but Montreal cased them and closed them within 8 minutes of the 1st. That was a coaching clinic.
Newfie John
3-24-06, 6:04 AM
Montreal's PK was impeccable, I agree it was good coaching but the leaf players really weren't good on the defensive side either. Berg and/or Khavanov made mistakes leading to 4 of the 5 goals. Suglobov and Allison didn't help much either. Suglobov does not belong in the NHL yet. His bad decision making and bad defensive play is glaring.
They better come out with a better effort on Saturday. On the PP they have to realize that the points will be stuck to like sh!t on a blanket so they have to get it to the points and quickly put it along the boards down low for a mismatch and hopefully a goal. Suglobov better be sent down, or at least scratched in favour of Domi. Domi will at least play offense and not turn it over every time he gets over the blueline.
I hate Glen Healy by the way, I wanted to jump through the TV at him. How many times does he talk about when he won a cup? Just shut up you nobody.
Can't say I didn't see this coming!:(
There was no way in hell the Leafs were going to take 2 from the Habs in their own barn.We lost the 1st and even if we win the 2nd we're still 3 behind the Habs with a tougher schedule ahead.Factor in Atlanta and their bs win last night(what a joke that one ref was) and there's no way this team will make the playoffs.After Sundays game against the Devils this team will be gonners and then maybe we'll get to see the young guys play more(yes more of Soglobov,Bell,bring up Williams and White).
Look on the bright side though,players like Berg will have played their final games as a Leaf!:D
Cheers
Look on the bright side though,players like Berg will have played their final games as a Leaf!:D
CheersAlways look at the bright side of your life *whistle*
The Insider
3-24-06, 9:57 PM
Look on the bright side though,players like Berg will have played their final games as a Leaf!:D
And the good news is if Leaf management has the stupid idea to bring him back, Aki may leave on his own:
http://www.torontosun.com/Sports/Hockey/2006/03/24/1503441-sun.html
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