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MadDevil

9-25-05, 5:40 PM

The Vikings win! The Vikings win! The Vikings win!

Finally Dante wakes from his slumber to throw for 300 yards and 3 touchdowns in the 33-16 win over the Saints. Still have worries about the offensive line though.

Good overall performance by the team today, although I was a bit worried about what I saw from them in the second half. Up 24-0 at halftime, and they let the Saints score 16 unanswered to get back in it, before falling short. I'm not going to dwell on that though, they did what they had to, got a win, and now have some positivity going into Atlanta next week. Agreed on the offensive line though, the Saints had some good pressure on Culpepper today, but I think the line is still trying find some chemistry with Birk and Dixon gone.

leaferfan87

9-25-05, 6:44 PM

Good overall performance by the team today, although I was a bit worried about what I saw from them in the second half. Up 24-0 at halftime, and they let the Saints score 16 unanswered to get back in it, before falling short. I'm not going to dwell on that though, they did what they had to, got a win, and now have some positivity going into Atlanta next week. Agreed on the offensive line though, the Saints had some good pressure on Culpepper today, but I think the line is still trying find some chemistry with Birk and Dixon gone.

Well Moore did rush for 100+ yards so there definitely has to be some sort of positive aspect developing to this O-line. But, Dante was sacked I think 6 or 7 times and it seemed alot of that was in the second half.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn

9-25-05, 6:51 PM

Leafs_Fa_Life

9-25-05, 6:58 PM

Damn Packers lost another game by less than one possession this week. This time a missed PAT by Ryan Longwell was the difference.

MadDevil

9-25-05, 8:29 PM

Damn Packers lost another game by less than one possession this week. This time a missed PAT by Ryan Longwell was the difference.

Well, don't worry. Nobody in that division has a winning record right now.:laughing:

Bob burns

9-26-05, 2:09 AM

Man, I didn't get to see the Eagles game but I was listenin to it on the radio at work and was freakin out after every play by the end of the 4th. Akers comin on to kick that FG at the end was insane with his hammy injury.

That was quite the entertaining game. Oakland sure has had a tough schedule and put up a good effort today but lost to the superior team. Mcnabb looked pretty shaky out there in the first half but settled down a little in the second half but still looked inconsistant. And Akers, holy geeze...

And a solid performance by the Seahawks today, mind you it was against Arizona but they stayed in the game all the way til the end, which does not happen regularly with this team. Great games for both Hasselback and Alexander. And how about Wallace throwing that bomb? :D

:boogie:

J.R.

9-26-05, 4:46 PM

The Patriots and the Steelers provided the game of the week. So far. We still have Monday Night Football to go with one of the greatest rivalries in all of sports. It should be a great one. I expect the Broncos not to run away with things tonight like they did on Sunday night in week one last season. The Chiefs have a better defence than one year ago, but it's not outstanding. They're beatable and I think the Mile High environment will be the difference again tonight.

THE HACK

9-27-05, 1:22 PM

The Pats vs the Steelers game was pretty good with Brady once again proving why he's the best clutch quarterback in the game today.I was flipping it between this game and my Cowboys game which was a shootout and from what I saw of the Pats they were controlling the game and could have won handily if not for turnovers.Rodney Harrison tore his ACL and is out for the season and this is going to hurt the Pats! :( There's also some controversy as the Pats won on a last second fieldgoal from Vinateri but they shouldn't have been in that position because the game,or should I say 4th quarter,was into its 15 mins and 42 seconds.As we all know a quarter is only 15 mins long but the play clock messed up early in the 4th quarter and wasn't corrected adding an extra 42 seconds to the 4th quarter!

The Jets have gone out and brought back QB My cousin Vinny Testaverde after learning that Chad Pennington and backup Jay Fiedler are gone for some time.Go Vinny! :thumb:

Cheers

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn

9-27-05, 4:59 PM

J.R.

9-27-05, 11:09 PM

How about them Kansas City Chiefs and their big bad defence now? :laughing: And what about their big bad offence? Can you say overrated?

The 30-10 win by Denver doesn't even accurately descibed how badly the Broncos beat down the Chiefs. From the Broncos' running game returning to prominance to their defence (especially the line and linebackers) stepping up and stopping the so-called "two headed monster" to less than 80 combined yards, it was an ugly night for Kansas City. Vermiel just can't win in Denver. It's really funny, because I thought he was going to cry last night right on the sidelines.

A big congratulations goes out to the current Mr. Bronco, Rod Smith, for becoming the first ever undrafted player to receive over 10,000 yards.

:thumb:

What better way to celebrate today than finally securing my tickets for the Bills/Broncos game in week 15?

http://i22.ebayimg.com/02/i/05/00/04/98_12_sb.JPG

Thank you, eBay.ca.

Amoroq

9-27-05, 11:56 PM

leaferfan87

9-28-05, 1:17 AM

There a couple big name players goin down this weekend. Rodney Harrison tore his entire knee up. ACL, PCL, MCL, just about every CL you can think of. Takeo Spikes, who some people were predicting to win DPOTY, is done for the season with a ruptured Achilles tendon. Pennington, I think is done with that torn rotator cuff. And even though Akers was the Eagles hero on Sunday, he may be out for a while with that torn hammy.

Basically the AFC East has just been decimated by injuries with each team (with the exception of Miami) suffering an injury to key players. The Jets brought back Vinny, but is how much does he have left? The Patriots will manage as they always do and the Bills have lost one of the most integral parts of their defense.

THE HACK

9-28-05, 7:57 PM

What better way to celebrate today than finally securing my tickets for the Bills/Broncos game in week 15?

http://i22.ebayimg.com/02/i/05/00/04/98_12_sb.JPG

Thank you, eBay.ca.

$25 bucks,thats it for a ticket!!! :)

Damn,I'm paying $55 for a ticket to the Cowboys vs Seattle game on Oct 23rd and I'm in between the 40-50 yd line which is good but I'm in the 2nd row FROM THE BACK which sucks!Have fun at your game! :)

The Broncos played awesome and its good to see that Champ Bailey will probably play this Sunday,bad hamstring and all! And Congrats to Rod Smith! 8)

Cheers

J.R.

9-28-05, 9:03 PM

$25 bucks,thats it for a ticket!!! :) I wish. ;) They're someone's season tickets that he's not using for that game, so he put them up on eBay to have people bid on them. That's also why the face value is low. Anyways I bid on them yesterday and I won the auction. And I will be paying more than $25 a ticket, that's for sure.

The ONLY time I cheer for the Bills, is when they play the Broncos ;)Hopefully week 15 will be the time the Broncos will be clinching their division title and eliminating the Bills from the playoffs. :D

leaferfan87

9-28-05, 10:19 PM

Hopefully week 15 will be the time the Broncos will be clinching their division title and eliminating the Bills from the playoffs.

We can only hope that they will be eliminating the Bills from the playoffs. Enjoy the game, Bills games are fun.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn

9-29-05, 11:31 PM

JR, I hate to tell you this but the Broncos will not win the division. The Chiefs may have had an overrated defense, but their running game is easily the best in the league. I could run for 100 yards behind that line. But the defense is still improved, and it is easily improved enough for them to rack up 11-12 wins. And plus, the Broncos are one of the hardest teams to play at home. With Jake Plummer at the helm of your team, I can't see him leading them into the playoffs against a strong Chargers team and strong Chiefs team. And no, HE did not lead them into the playoffs the 2 previous years, it was the running game and the underrated defense.

J.R.

9-30-05, 12:00 AM

JR, I hate to tell you this but the Broncos will not win the division.I disagree. We shall see in 14 or less weeks.

The Chiefs may have had an overrated defense, but their running game is easily the best in the league.:conspire:

Larry Johnson and Priest Holmes combined for 74 yards. That's COMBINING for less than 80 yards on Monday night.

With Jake Plummer at the helm of your team, I can't see him leading them into the playoffs against a strong Chargers team and strong Chiefs team.They're both a mirage team with running backs that receive way too much hype.

And no, HE did not lead them into the playoffs the 2 previous years, it was the running game and the underrated defense.Check the Broncos' record with Jake Plummer starting for Denver and check their record when he doesn't start. Additionally Jake Plummer threw for 27 touchdowns last season. Guess what? John Elway never threw for that many in all the years he was a Bronco.

What's next? You're going to tell me the Raiders will win 13 games, because they have Randy Moss? :laughing:

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See you in week eight. :D

Leafs_Fa_Life

9-30-05, 4:05 PM

They're both a mirage team with running backs that receive way too much hype.

LT receives too much hype? He's easily the best running back in football. The Charger line isn't dominant to say thats the reason why he puts up the numbers he does, he's just that damn good. I'd agree with Holmes being overhyped, because he is a product of that KC line. However, Liam is right when he says KC is the best running team in the league. That line is the best in the league and if Roaf played things might have been a bit different. I know it's only one guy, but ask Minny how big an affect losing Birk has had.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn

9-30-05, 10:19 PM

LFL already covered for me on Tomlinson. He is easily the best RB in the league. And I have also said that Priest Holmes is a product of that O-line. Most people disagree but I have been sayin that since he ran for 27 TDs two years ago.

OK, Plummer threw 27 TDs in a era when offense is up. Look at every passing statistic and they are all up when compared to previous years, all because the pass interference has been more strongly enforced. And OK, his TDs were good for a tie for 7th most in the league. But.....his 20 INTs lead the league with Kerry Collins and Vinny Testaverde. Oh, and Plummer managed to fumble the ball 6 times last year, not too good.

Jake Plummer will not lead the Broncos anywhere, and if by some chance Denver does make the playoffs this year, I sincerely doubt that Plummer will be the reason. It will again by on the back of that running game and underrated defense.

Also, please don't act as if I have overrated the Chiefs by some great value. The Chiefs are a legit team and the Raiders may have added Randy Moss but still won't win 5 games and I have been preaching that since that Oakland-Minny trade was made. The Chiefs have the offense to make the playoffs and if the defense plays half as good as they did before Monday Night, they will be a hard team to beat.

J.R.

12-24-05, 4:38 PM

JR, I hate to tell you this but the Broncos will not win the division.Wrong again.

2005 AMERICAN FOOTBALL CONFERENCE
WESTERN DIVISION CHAMPION: THE DENVER BRONCOS!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/jrthesportsczar/DEN_452.gif

Yet again I'm right.

MadDevil

12-24-05, 5:22 PM

Hmmm...and haven't the Broncos been outscored 90-34 in the first round of the playoffs the last two years?:boogie:

J.R.

12-24-05, 5:26 PM

Hmmm...and haven't the Broncos been outscored 90-34 in the first round of the playoffs the last two years?:boogie:
If they win today, they won't be playing in the first round, so your point would be moot. :boogie:

Leafs_Fa_Life

12-24-05, 6:00 PM

If they win today, they won't be playing in the first round, so your point would be moot. :boogie:

Well Cincy will put up a good 30 or 40 points against them in the second round to make up for it.

J.R.

12-24-05, 10:27 PM

Well Cincy will put up a good 30 or 40 points against them in the second round to make up for it.YAY, more crazy predictions against the Broncos!

Wrong about the not-so-super Chargers winning the division, wrong about Denver's late season collapse, wrong about Jake Plummer not leading the Broncos into the playoffs, now this? :laughing: Give it up already.

Yeah, Cincinatti looked great blowing their game AT HOME against Buffalo today, a team that I saw get torn apart by the Broncos last week ON THE ROAD. I'm so worried about how Denver will do at home, where by the way they're 8-0 this season.

With the way Indianapolis is playing, I think the only threat to the Broncos in the AFC are the Patriots.

MadDevil

12-24-05, 11:43 PM

With the way Indianapolis is playing, I think the only threat to the Broncos in the AFC are the Patriots.

Really? The fact that the Colts have put up 90 points in the last two playoff games against the Broncos doesn't bother you at all? It would certainly at least make me think twice about my favorite team's chances of winning their conference.

But then, I was just messing with you to begin with...:D

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn

12-25-05, 12:24 AM

With the way Indianapolis is playing, I think the only threat to the Broncos in the AFC are the Patriots.

Whaaaaa????? The way the Colts are playing??? They lost one game with their starters in and this game against the Seahawks wasn't even close to a real version of the Colts. The Colts are the team to beat in the AFC, no matter what you think. But I guess since the loss was against the "not-so-super Chargers" as you have officially and oh so cleverly donned them, that makes awful.

J.R.

12-25-05, 2:11 PM

Really? The fact that the Colts have put up 90 points in the last two playoff games against the Broncos doesn't bother you at all? It would certainly at least make me think twice about my favorite team's chances of winning their conference.

But then, I was just messing with you to begin with...:D
That's fine. I enjoy it.

This season when Manning is on the field, Denver's defensive front four will put him on his ass and the Broncos' running offence will keep him and the Colts' 'O' on the sidelines.

If the not-so-super Chargers can beat them, then so can the Broncos.

Whaaaaa????? The way the Colts are playing??? They lost one game with their starters in and this game against the Seahawks wasn't even close to a real version of the Colts. The Colts are the team to beat in the AFC, no matter what you think. But I guess since the loss was against the "not-so-super Chargers" as you have officially and oh so cleverly donned them, that makes awful.There was also a death to the head coaches' son in there too. Believe it or not that takes a toll on the entire team - it's a distraction.

Leafs_Fa_Life

12-26-05, 2:04 AM

This season when Manning is on the field, Denver's defensive front four will put him on his ass and the Broncos' running offence will keep him and the Colts' 'O' on the sidelines.

Denver's 31st in the league in sacks. Odds are they'll struggle to put Manning on his ass at least once, if the two teams do meet in the playoffs. Also, of the team's 22 sacks coming into this weekend, only 8 of those sacks have been made by Denver's starting linemen. The Bronco defense relies on blitzes from the second and third level to generate pressure, and if you give Manning man coverage with no safety help over the top he'll make the Broncos pay more often than not. Also, the Broncos haven't exactly defended the pass well this season, having giving up the 28th most yards/game coming into this weekend.

Having a great running game is nice, but the Colts offense will still score their points. Jake Plummer is eventually gonna have to make some plays, and the Colts defensive front is great at rushing the passer. Lets see what Jake does when he has guys like Freeney, Mathis and Simon in his grill all day long. The Colts don't have to rely on help from their backers and backs to get a rush, so they can drop 7 into coverage and take away most of Jake's passing lanes.

J.R.

1-02-06, 2:35 PM

First of all, Indianapolis is beatable. If the not-so-super Chargers could do it, then the team that swept them this season can too.

Denver's 31st in the league in sacks. Odds are they'll struggle to put Manning on his ass at least once, if the two teams do meet in the playoffs. Also, of the team's 22 sacks coming into this weekend, only 8 of those sacks have been made by Denver's starting linemen.Okay, you answered that yourself. It's not only the front four (which is one of the best at stopping the run) that goes after the quarterback, it's the entire defence. We saw it this past weekend in San Diego where the NFL's hardest hitter (John Lynch) took out Brees and got to Rivers multiple times. Where ever the pressure comes from, it's still pressure and with Manning being such a pocket pussy, it'll be easier.

The Bronco defense relies on blitzes from the second and third level to generate pressure, and if you give Manning man coverage with no safety help over the top he'll make the Broncos pay more often than not. Perhaps, but this isn't the same Denver team that you saw in the last two playoff years.

Also, the Broncos haven't exactly defended the pass well this season, having giving up the 28th most yards/game coming into this weekend.No surprise, as I have often critisized the Broncos' secondary for giving up big plays at the absolute wrong times. Look no further than their loss at New York.

Jake Plummer is eventually gonna have to make some plays, and the Colts defensive front is great at rushing the passer. Lets see what Jake does when he has guys like Freeney, Mathis and Simon in his grill all day long. The Colts don't have to rely on help from their backers and backs to get a rush, so they can drop 7 into coverage and take away most of Jake's passing lanes.Plummer is one of the best quarterbacks in the game at avoiding sacks. And not to mention only seven interceptions this season, which is a league low for a QB throwing more than 350 balls, so he's also the most mistake-free passers in the league. Jake Plummer is more than capable of making plays when it's needed, and if the runs is working, then so will the play action and that's when he's most dangerous.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn

1-02-06, 6:34 PM

J.R.

1-03-06, 2:13 AM

Do you actually believe some of the stuff you say??? Jake Plummer is one of the most mistake-free passers in the game??? He has averaged 1.17 INTs per game through his career. And then look at averaging .54 fumbles a game. I wouldn't call someone who turns the ball over almost twice a game mistake free.Quit ignoring the facts. He had seven interceptions in 16 games. Uh, LEAGUE LOW! He had four fumbles this season. This isn't the Arizona Snake anymore. He isn't playing like Brett Favre is playing now, which I think Plummer with the Cardinals was better than Favre with the Packers.

And John Lynch is the hardest hitter in the NFL??? Maybe you could make that case a couple years ago when he was on Tampa, but not now. I would say that Brian Dawkins, Ray Lewis, Keith Bulluck, Joey Porter, Donovan Darius, Derrick Brooks, and as much as I hate him, Roy Williams, are all better hitters than John Lynch. You could make a case for Lynch as the dirtiest hitter in the game though.Quit ignoring the facts and watch some of his footage.

And you made no case whatsoever as to why the Denver defense can get to Manning. They are 28th in the league in sacks for a reason, they can't get to the QB. Whereas the Colts are the least sacked team in the league. How you can possibly say that the Broncos will get to Manning on a regular basis is beyond me, because COMMON SENSE tells me that the Colts pretty much have the battle of the trenches in their favor by a wide margin.Quit ignoring the facts. If Denver can get to every other quarterback they've played, they can get to Manning. How did those lame not-so-super Chargers do against the defensive rush?

By the way, have you been right about anything this NFL season?

Amoroq

1-03-06, 2:47 AM

It is going to be real interesting around here when the Broncos lose in the 2nd week of the playoffs.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn

1-03-06, 4:23 AM

Quit ignoring the facts. He had seven interceptions in 16 games. Uh, LEAGUE LOW! He had four fumbles this season. This isn't the Arizona Snake anymore. He isn't playing like Brett Favre is playing now, which I think Plummer with the Cardinals was better than Favre with the Packers.

Quit ignoring the facts and watch some of his footage.

Quit ignoring the facts. If Denver can get to every other quarterback they've played, they can get to Manning. How did those lame not-so-super Chargers do against the defensive rush?

By the way, have you been right about anything this NFL season?

So, one season now erases all of what was previously done in someone's career. I guess that means I take Jeremiah Trotter over Ray Lewis, Plaxico Burress over Randy Moss, Derrick Burgess over Julius Peppers, Adrian Wilson over Brian Dawkins. And I guess Martin St. Louis in the best player in hockey too, I mean he did lead the league in points.:rolleyes:

I have seen John Lynch plenty of times this season and last and he has lost some of the power that made him on of the best hitters in the game. I'm not saying he can't hit hard, but you making asinine statements like he is the hardest hitter in the NFL, when he clearly isn't, is just dumb.

What facts did I ignore about the pass rush of Denver and the ability to stop the rush of Indy??? Again, the Colts have allowed the least sacks in the league, and the Broncos are the 5th worst in the league at geting to the passer. Why don't you stop ignoring the facts and take off your Elway glasses for a second to realize that the Colts clearly have the advantage in the battle have of the trenches against the Colts.

And yeah, I have been wrong about a few things in the NFL this season, but that doesn't bother me because no one is right all the time. You on the other hand, predicted the Broncos to take the AFC West based on your own bias and no actual fact. I could have done that for the past 4 years with the Eagles and have been right. I never even heard any of your predictions outside of the Broncos winning their division, and that wasn't even before the season. You need to stop criticizing the people with the balls to make some predictions if you can't even make them yourself.

J.R.

1-03-06, 4:12 PM

It is going to be real interesting around here when the Broncos lose in the 2nd week of the playoffs.Yeah as interesting as the Broncos going 0-16 this season.

I can't believe you people. A team that went 13-3, won the toughest division in football, qualified for a second seed first round bye in the tougher conference, yet they continue to be doubted. Even if they go on to win the Super Bowl this season, people will still be saying "they suck and haven't proved anything yet." That's fine, when you're betting, I hope you put a lot of money on Denver's opponent.

It was funny during the pre-game show leading up to the Broncos/not-so-super Chargers game, when Phil Simms said: "I didn't even know the Broncos were in the playoffs." He went on to say that, "they had a quiet 12-3 season and are underrated going into the playoffs." I guess since ESPN doesn't slurp about them, they're no good.

So, one season now erases all of what was previously done in someone's career.Don't look at what he's done in previous years, because he's not like that anymore. He'll never throw 20 interceptions again (unless he goes and plays in Green Bay). The genius Mike Shanahan has molded him into the quarterback that he invisioned three years ago and now look what he's done - won 13 games in one season and proved you wrong.

I have seen John Lynch plenty of times this season and last and he has lost some of the power that made him on of the best hitters in the game. I'm not saying he can't hit hard, but you making asinine statements like he is the hardest hitter in the NFL, when he clearly isn't, is just dumb.

What facts did I ignore about the pass rush of Denver and the ability to stop the rush of Indy??? Again, the Colts have allowed the least sacks in the league, and the Broncos are the 5th worst in the league at geting to the passer. Why don't you stop ignoring the facts and take off your Elway glasses for a second to realize that the Colts clearly have the advantage in the battle have of the trenches against the Colts.The above is biased hatred and I'll chose not to address it.

I never even heard any of your predictions outside of the Broncos winning their division, and that wasn't even before the season. You need to stop criticizing the people with the balls to make some predictions if you can't even make them yourself.I won NFL Picks this season by nine games. Oh, but since I was running that game, it was biased on my part and clearly I suck and haven't proved anything yet.

A few other predictions I had this season:
- Shaun Alexander will win the MVP award.
- LameDainian Tomlinson sucks.
- The Giants will win their division (after Denver lost to them).
- Within three years, the Bears will be in the playoffs.

Leafs_Fa_Life

1-03-06, 4:44 PM

Yeah as interesting as the Broncos going 0-16 this season.

I can't believe you people. A team that went 13-3, won the toughest division in football, qualified for a second seed first round bye in the tougher conference, yet they continue to be doubted. Even if they go on to win the Super Bowl this season, people will still be saying "they suck and haven't proved anything yet." That's fine, when you're betting, I hope you put a lot of money on Denver's opponent.

It was funny during the pre-game show leading up to the Broncos/not-so-super Chargers game, when Phil Simms said: "I didn't even know the Broncos were in the playoffs." He went on to say that, "they had a quiet 12-3 season and are underrated going into the playoffs." I guess since ESPN doesn't slurp about them, they're no good.

Nobody is denying that they're good. We just think other teams are better.

Don't look at what he's done in previous years, because he's not like that anymore. He'll never throw 20 interceptions again (unless he goes and plays in Green Bay). The genius Mike Shanahan has molded him into the quarterback that he invisioned three years ago and now look what he's done - won 13 games in one season and proved you wrong.

Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl, does that make him good? Jake Plummer is a game manager. The team has a great running game, and his job is just to go in there and not $%#@ it up.

The above is biased hatred and I'll chose not to address it.

John Lynch is a fine safety, but he's not the hardest hitter in the league. Brian Dawkins, Sean Taylor and Roy Williams are all bigger hitters.

You won't address the sacks argument because you're wrong. Liam actually used stats to backup his argument, what is so bias about that?

I won NFL Picks this season by nine games. Oh, but since I was running that game, it was biased on my part and clearly I suck and haven't proved anything yet.

A few other predictions I had this season:
- Shaun Alexander will win the MVP award.
- LameDainian Tomlinson sucks.
- The Giants will win their division (after Denver lost to them).
- Within three years, the Bears will be in the playoffs.

Who cares about the picks. Did anybody actually spend more than 30 seconds making their selections? I know I didn't. Besides, many football analyst do horrible when making game selections. I guess that makes you smarter than all of them too.

So you can predict the future? Alexander will be offensive player of the year no doubt, but it looks like Brady is gonna get the MVP.

"LameDainian":confused: J.R., you realize some of the things you say are really corny and make you sound like a little kid. How does Tomlinson suck when he scores 20 TDs in a season, had over 1400 yards, and 50+ receptions? You cried earlier in this thread about Liam "ignoring the facts" (even though he wasn't), yet you clearly ignore them when it comes to Tomlinson.

OHHH, you predicted a team would win the division in week 7. Big man:rolleyes:

Within 3 years isn't that bold of a prediction. With all the roster turnover in the NFL nowadays it's actually not that crazy for a non-playoff team to turn it around quickly. Also, with the losses of Wahle, Rivera, and Sharper, many people were saying this is the year that the Packers finally fall to the bottom of the NFC North.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn

1-03-06, 4:46 PM

Don't look at what he's done in previous years, because he's not like that anymore. He'll never throw 20 interceptions again (unless he goes and plays in Green Bay). The genius Mike Shanahan has molded him into the quarterback that he invisioned three years ago and now look what he's done - won 13 games in one season and proved you wrong.

The above is biased hatred and I'll chose not to address it.

I won NFL Picks this season by nine games. Oh, but since I was running that game, it was biased on my part and clearly I suck and haven't proved anything yet.

A few other predictions I had this season:
- Shaun Alexander will win the MVP award.
- LameDainian Tomlinson sucks.
- The Giants will win their division (after Denver lost to them).
- Within three years, the Bears will be in the playoffs.

So I guess you would take the players I mentioned. OK, your fault.:laughing:

Would you mind explaining my biased hatred to me, because as far as I know, I am indifferent to the Broncos. I really don't care if they win or lose. No wait, scratch that hopefully they do lose in the playoffs, that way you won't be posting your ridiculous bias opinion here until their next win in 2006.

OK, you won picking games. If I remember correctly I was killing you last year, in that radio pick'em, until I my computer got screwed up.

Hmmmm, I never heard any of these predictions. Would you mind finding them in a post somewhere, or did you just make them up.

Once again, your clever side comes out JR. LameDainian Tomlinson, sheer wit and knowledgeable posting once again from JR to set us all right while having another play on words to summarize the actual ability of a team/player. To say that Tomlinson sucks, just shows that I and LFL have been right for the past 4 months, you are a bias Broncos fan that can't see the forest through the trees. LaDainian Tomlinson sucked with 1462 rushing yards, 370 receiving yards, and 20 total TDs. He sucked just enough to make the Pro Bowl once again.:rolleyes:

J.R.

1-03-06, 5:04 PM

This is getting old, but...

Here's a statistical fact: Combine the wins of your two teams (Packers - 4, Eagles - 6) in the weak NFC and that doesn't even come close to the Broncos win total (13) in the strong AFC.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/jrthesportsczar/DEN-MileHighPride.jpg

Enjoy the playoffs, boys.

LiAmTrAnSdEmOn

1-03-06, 5:07 PM

Thank you for proving my point, JR. You never fail me.

J.R.

1-03-06, 5:12 PM

I don't care anymore. Like I said, enjoy the playoffs.

Leafs_Fa_Life

1-03-06, 5:35 PM

This is getting old, but...

Here's a statistical fact: Combine the wins of your two teams (Packers - 4, Eagles - 6) in the weak NFC and that doesn't even come close to the Broncos win total (13) in the strong AFC.

Oh well, success runs in cycles. I wonder if you'll be coming in here all high and mighty when the Broncos fall back down. I don't recall me or Liam ever acting like you when our teams were doing nothing but winning division titles.

I will enjoy the playoffs, J.R. Tom Brady is one hell of a QB, and seeing him improve his playoff record to 13-0, while adding a 4th SuperBowl to his mantle will be nice. Meanwhile Mike Shanahan will continue his tradition of losing playoff games without John Elway and Terrell Davis.

J.R.

1-03-06, 5:40 PM

Nobody is denying that they're good. We just think other teams are better.Just for fun, name them.

(I wouldn't be surprised if he listed 31 teams.)

Meanwhile Mike Shanahan will continue his tradition of losing playoff games without John Elway and Terrell Davis.I thought the tradition was that the Broncos couldn't get out of the first round. :confused: We know how that has worked out already.

By the way, Mike Shanahan won a Super Bowl with San Francisco as the offensive coordinator of one of the greatest offences in history, but you wouldn't want to give him any credit for that.

PDO

1-03-06, 5:44 PM

Teams who I think will beat Denver should they matchup in the playoffs...

Indy, NE, Cincy, Carolina, New York, Seattle, Chicago.

Leafs_Fa_Life

1-03-06, 5:54 PM

Just for fun, name them.

(I wouldn't be surprised if he listed 31 teams.)

31 teams, hah! I'm not biased like you, J.R.

Colts
Pittsburgh
New England
Seattle
Chicago
Carolina
Tampa Bay

I thought the tradition was that the Broncos couldn't get out of the first round. :confused: We know how that has worked out already.

By the way, Mike Shanahan won a Super Bowl with San Francisco as the offensive coordinator of one of the greatest offences in history, but you wouldn't want to give him any credit for that.

So that proves my point, he can win when he has elite talent. Can he coach up a good team and take them to greatness? We'll find out this month.

Amoroq

1-03-06, 6:27 PM

Yeah as interesting as the Broncos going 0-16 this season.

I can't believe you people. A team that went 13-3, won the toughest division in football, qualified for a second seed first round bye in the tougher conference, yet they continue to be doubted.JR for me its not about the Broncos. They are a very good team but only 2 teams stand in their way. Colts and Patriots. The problem here is the arrogance you always show when you talk about them, and the your own lack of class towards others views. Thats why you won't see any positive from anyone about your Denver Broncos.

J.R.

1-04-06, 5:52 PM

Colts - Yes.
Pittsburgh - Maybe.
New England - Yes/maybe.
Seattle - No.
Chicago - Yes.
Carolina - No.
Tampa Bay - Maybe.
Cincy - No.
New York - Not again.

So that proves my point, he can win when he has elite talent. Can he coach up a good team and take them to greatness? We'll find out this month.He made that offence great.

What's three straight playoff appearances with the Broncos prove? A 13-3 season? Must have been all Jake Plummer and Mike Anderson, but if I say they're any good, you'll say it was all defence, but if I say that's good, then you'll say it was all offensive line, but if I say that's good, then you'll say it's all the receivers, but if I say that's good, then you'll say it's all system, etc, etc, etc. This is a circular argument. GAH!

The problem here is the arrogance you always show when you talk about them, and the your own lack of class towards others views. Thats why you won't see any positive from anyone about your Denver Broncos.No need to make this personal. Don't hate the Broncos, because they're my beloved football team.

In my defence though, this is the only team out of my Big Three that I can be cocky and arrogant about: I realize that the Mets are just losers and the Oilers aren't a top team in the league, so Denver is the only one that gives me something to brag about.

Leafs_Fa_Life

1-04-06, 7:26 PM

He made that offence great.

No he didn't. The Niners offense was great before Shanahan showed up.

What's three straight playoff appearances with the Broncos prove? A 13-3 season? Must have been all Jake Plummer and Mike Anderson, but if I say they're any good, you'll say it was all defence, but if I say that's good, then you'll say it was all offensive line, but if I say that's good, then you'll say it's all the receivers, but if I say that's good, then you'll say it's all system, etc, etc, etc. This is a circular argument. GAH!

Like I said, we'll see what the Broncos can do this year in the playoffs. Lots of teams have had nice regular seasons, but have failed to do anything in the playoffs.

No need to make this personal. Don't hate the Broncos, because they're my beloved football team.

In my defence though, this is the only team out of my Big Three that I can be cocky and arrogant about: I realize that the Mets are just losers and the Oilers aren't a top team in the league, so Denver is the only one that gives me something to brag about.

Why do you need to brag about the Broncos? Nobody else on this board brags when they're team is doing good.