Firefox gaining on Internet Exploder

[a4l]

It has the fix for the latest security problem plus other upgrades.

[Iced Tea]

Forfox? Is that similar to Firefox? I think I'll stick with Firefox and Forfox can take a flying leap. :D

[slapshot™]

Forfox? Is that similar to Firefox? I think I'll stick with Firefox and Forfox can take a flying leap. :D

http://www.forfox.cz/tex1web.jpg

She may have very well meant Forfox (http://www.forfox.cz/home.htm).

[a4l]

(rant)Is anyone else having trouble with the new version? for some odd reason my GIF's are static. I have done allof their diagnostics and even got rid of all my exstensions, did a clean download and created a new profile. Yada Yada Yada.
Every time there is a new release it gets less stable.
I am really upset because this guy never gets to drink his Guinness :gulppint: (/rant)

[charlio lemieux]

I am really upset because this guy never gets to drink his Guinness

That's terrible. Let me have one for you! :toast: :gulppint:

Good luck, computers can be among the most frustrating of inventions.

[go_leafs_go02]

First thing i downloaded on this new computer of mine.

Working fine to me..and I didn't know it was a new version

[Iced Tea]

Firefox v1.5 is out today and it took under a minute to download and install. It's got a few more features than the previous version and some of the old features have been altered and tweaked. Firefox is way better than crappy Internet Exploder.

On a different note, I tried installing Windows Service Pack 2 again. This was my 4th try and my computer didn't like it yet again. When I experienced another problem with Windows start up, I system restored to a few days ago, and guess what, no problems. I'll stick with my non up to date Windows until I need a new computer. I have the latest Norton's Internet Security so I should be fairly safe from evildoers. :D

[Mel]

Firefox is way better than crappy Internet Exploder.

If by better you mean slower, then I would agree. On my machine, I can open 3 IE windows in the time it takes me to open a single Fire fart window. Beyond that there is no big difference that makes me like one better than the other.

I do like the cookies and password management of Fire fart though... whereas IE doesn't even have any real information management. (digging through your cookies folder buried down in the C: drive somewhere is not exactly convenient)

The web developer toolbar for Fire fart is quite handy as well. I use that a lot.

[TimmyTabasco]

What is FireFox? :D

[a4l]

Firefox v1.5 is out today and it took under a minute to download and install. It's got a few more features than the previous version and some of the old features have been altered and tweaked. Firefox is way better than crappy Internet Exploder.


I have had the beta version of that for a couple of months and I love it.:thumb:

[Iced Tea]

Newest version of web browser debuts to rave reviews
Firefox 1.5 released as upstart browser continues to gain on Internet Explorer

Geoff Martin, canada.com
Published: Wednesday, November 30, 2005

After months of anticipation from people in the know, Firefox 1.5 ? the latest complete version of Mozilla?s Firefox browser ? was released yesterday, and it has caused an extraordinary amount of excitement for a simple piece of web-browsing software.

Over at digg.com, users waited with breathless anticipation for the official version of Firefox 1.5 to be released.

?I just put on the coffee. I'm going to stay up all night for this one,? one poster said, while another chimed in with, ?Yay! Tuesday may not suck afterall.?

Firefox, a free and easily customizable browser that?s been around for just over a year now, is starting to make some serious inroads against the dominant position that Microsoft has been enjoying for years with its Internet Explorer browser, and now that Firefox has been downloaded by more than 100 million people around the world, Bill Gates and his cronies are starting to take notice.

Microsoft?s next edition of Internet Explorer is rumored to be ?borrowing? many of the features that have made Firefox so popular among web power users, including what is likely Firefox?s most-loved feature: an innovation called tabbed browsing. Tabbed browsing allows users to open only one browser window, while opening multiple pages that can be accessed by clicking tabs along the top of the browser.

Advocates of Firefox cite other advantages of the browser, including the fact that it is currently only used by fewer than 15 per cent of Internet users, and most hackers concentrate exclusively on Internet Explorer while leaving less popular browsers alone.

Firefox has not been without security issues of its own, however, but Mozilla executives have insisted that this latest version is their most secure yet, and that Firefox will undergo regularly scheduled security updates, in addition to any emergency updates that may need to be issued.

The one thing that users of Internet Explorer will likely never get to enjoy is the ability to infinitely customize their browsing experience, something that is possible with Firefox through the use of ?extensions,? which are programmed mostly by Firefox users themselves. Firefox extensions can do everything from spell-checking posts to blogs or website forums, to giving you control over your MP3 playing software without ever leaving your browser.

Mozilla is also planning a very aggressive marketing campaign to promote this latest version of Firefox, with many grassroots components including a contest that will encourage Firefox users to create their own video commercials singing the praises of the browser.

The Mozilla project was born out of the now-defunct open-source Netscape browser, and is a non-profit organization committed to creating open-source software, and to promoting innovation and keeping the Internet open to all.Link (http://www.canada.com/topics/technology/story.html?id=c2de2106-f52f-40e3-9eaf-f204a6ba9b4e&k=83857)

I'm thinking of getting a Firefox tattoo because Firefox blows Internet Exploder out of the park. :D

[Amoroq]

Link (http://www.canada.com/topics/technology/story.html?id=c2de2106-f52f-40e3-9eaf-f204a6ba9b4e&k=83857)

I'm thinking of getting a Firefox tattoo because Firefox blows Internet Exploder out of the park. :DThe more popular this browser becomes, the more open it is to attack. Hackers and Phreaks like to attack whats popular. I've used most browsers but I still end up comming back to IE, which now has tabbed browsing. I've had more problems with 'other' browsers then I have had with IE. If I could ever get my wife to make the switch to the darkside, I would no longer have the need for a dows box. The one I use at home is nix, the wifys is a Bill Gates special.

[Iced Tea]

The more popular this browser becomes, the more open it is to attack. Hackers and Phreaks like to attack whats popular. I've used most browsers but I still end up comming back to IE, which now has tabbed browsing. I've had more problems with 'other' browsers then I have had with IE. If I could ever get my wife to make the switch to the darkside, I would no longer have the need for a dows box. The one I use at home is nix, the wifys is a Bill Gates special.Amoroq, Darth Gates is your father. Don't join the darkside. Come towards the light, the Firefox powered light. :D

[a4l]

Firefox is the only way to go there are so many great extensions. I have footiefox installed and it keeps me updated on EPL scores.
I hate IE with a passion.

[Mel]

Over at digg.com, users waited with breathless anticipation for the official version of Firefox 1.5 to be released.

?I just put on the coffee. I'm going to stay up all night for this one,? one poster said, while another chimed in with, ?Yay! Tuesday may not suck afterall.?




:laughing: digg.com...




http://users.ox.ac.uk/~orie1381/nerds2.JPG



Microsoft?s next edition of Internet Explorer is rumored to be ?borrowing? many of the features that have made Firefox so popular among web power users, including what is likely Firefox?s most-loved feature: an innovation called tabbed browsing.

The same "innovation" that Firefox "borrowed" from Opera? (The original tabbed browser)?


So did Firefox then "borrow" "innovations" from other browsers such as full screen mode (F11 Key)?


Since full screen was not a feature of early (horrible) Netscape browsers, and Mozilla Firefox is nothing more than a derivative of Netscape's Gecko engine, let's just say Firefox did not exactly the invent the wheel.


Firefox has not been without security issues of its own, however, but Mozilla executives have insisted that this latest version is their most secure yet, and that Firefox will undergo regularly scheduled security updates, in addition to any emergency updates that may need to be issued.

With windows automatic update, you get security patches installed automatically as soon as they're released.

1.0.x versions of Firefox have already had large security holes exploited, causing Mozilla to release new versions just to patch security. Keeping on top of exploits is a full time job that requires regular updates. Mozilla has to release a new version and hope that everybody hears the news and downloads it. IE updates automatically.

The notion that Firefox is more secure because hackers are busy targeting IE is a self-fulfilling prophecy. The more people switch to Firefox, the more it will be exploited. Mozilla is now, and will continue to be much less capable of addressing and fixing exploits than Microsoft. (at least until their operating sytem is running on 90% of the world's computers instead of Windows)

[a4l]

Firefox's holes are repaired much faster than Microsoft.

[Mel]

Firefox's holes are repaired much faster than Microsoft.

Whether that's true or not - very questionable... I'd like to see a legitimate and neutral source to back that up - it misses my point anyway.

Repairing the hole is one thing.... getting that repair distributed to all of your users in timely fashion is an entirely different matter.

Don't get me wrong. I like Firefox. I also like a bunch of other browsers. I like them all for what they have to offer.

But when it comes to security... I'll take Microsoft IE with automatic Windows updates over anything else. They aren't new at this. None of the other vendors has the means (at least right now) to patch security breaches as quickly as Microsoft. Not just discover the problem and release new versions... but deliver the fix to all their users instantly.

That's a big difference.

[a4l]

The fixes are only for the latest versions of windows. They no longet support 98.
FX downloads are easy to do and come out regularly and updates are FREE.

[Mel]

The fixes are only for the latest versions of windows. They no longet support 98.
FX downloads are easy to do and come out regularly and updates are FREE.

Windows update contains updates for everything, including updated drivers for 3rd party devices. Internet Explorer patches come out through Windows update on a regular basis, free of charge, and if you have automatic windows update enabled... Your IE gets patched immediately every time they release a patch.

You turn on your machine. It tells you updates are ready to be installed and you click OK. It doesn't get any easier than that. And that's the kind of constant attention it takes to keep your browsing and e-mail applications safe. The security battle never stops or pauses. It is constant.

Comparing that to Mozilla is like apples and oranges. My latest version of FF is 1.0.3 which I know for a fact has major security flaws that Mozilla scrambled to fix. But there is no auto-update. There is not even a prompt alerting me to the fact that a new version has been released. There are millions of people out there using it who do not have the latest patched version.

That's what I'm talking about. Mozilla can have an army of nerds working 24-7 on Firefox security patches. But it does not make their product any safer to the masses... only to those who keep track of Firefox versions and eagerly upgrade at every release, like the folks at digg.com who stayed up all night LOL

In reality most people are reluctant to take the initiative to upgrade software on their own. Especially when there's new versions coming out all the time.

(btw - If you're still on Windows 98, I feel sorry for you.. maybe I'll get you and upgrade for christmas :))

[a4l]

I love 98 Se. I haven't had anyproblems with it. No way I am switching.

[KB in Kelowna]

I love 98 Se. I haven't had anyproblems with it. No way I am switching.

98 as in Windows 98? A Microsoft product, yet you dislike IE? Square this circle for me.

[MadDevil]

I love 98 Se. I haven't had anyproblems with it. No way I am switching.

Windows 98? Holy stone age Batman!:laughing: :D

Seriously though, as much as some people hate Microsoft, you have to admit they know what they're doing. I've used pretty much every browser out there, and still prefer IE over anything else.

[slapshot™]

I love 98 Se. I haven't had anyproblems with it. No way I am switching.

I used to have that mindset (and contrary to others, had no problems) when it came to ME. BIG improvement when I upgraded to XP.

[Mel]

In reality most people are reluctant to take the initiative to upgrade software on their own. Especially when there's new versions coming out all the time.
I love 98 Se. I haven't had anyproblems with it. No way I am switching.

I rest my case :rollover:



Seriously... you'd do yourself a big favor by making the jump to XP professional. It is a million times more stable and more secure than anything from the 95/98/ME generation. And it supports all the latest technologies and devices yada yada.

[go_leafs_go02]

This is the second computer that has been installed with XP that we have used, and the first things I downloaded on this computer when we got it was MSN Messenger and Firefox.

Microsoft is great, but IE and Firefox don't compare. I only use IE for wmv files and Windows Updates.