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9-15-05, 11:17 AM
Shannon could hear the footsteps behind her as she walked toward home. The thought of being followed made her heart beat faster. "You're being silly, she told herself, "no one is following you." To be safe, she began to walk faster, but the footsteps kept up with her pace. She was afraid to look back and she was glad she was almost home. Shannon said a quick prayer, "God please get me home safe." She saw the porch light burning and she leaned against the door for a moment, relieved to be in the safety of her home. She glanced out the window to see if anyone was there. The sidewalk was empty.

After tossing her books on the sofa, she decided to grab a snack and get on-line. She logged on under her screen name ByAngel213. She checked her Buddy List and saw GoTo123 was on.

She sent him an instant message:

By Angel213:
Hi. I'm glad you are on! I thought someone was following me home today. It was really weird!

GoTo123:
LOL You watch too much TV. Why would someone be following you? Don't you live in a safe neighbourhood?

ByAngel213:
Of course I do. LOL I guess it was my imagination cuz' I didn't see anybody when I looked out.

GoTo123:
Unless you gave your name out on-line. You haven't done that have you?

ByAngel213:
Of course not. I'm not stupid you know.

GoTo123:
Did you have a softball game after school today?

ByAngel213:
Yes and we won!!

GoTo123:
That's great! Who did you play?

ByAngel213:
We played the Hornets. LOL. Their uniforms are so gross! They look like bees. LOL

GoTo123:
What is your team called?

ByAngel213:
We are the Canton Cats. We have tiger paws on our uniforms. They are really cool.

GoTo123:
Did you pitch?

ByAngel213:
No I play second base. I got to go. My homework has to be done before my parents get home. I don't want them mad at me. Bye!

GoTo123:
Catch you later. Bye

Meanwhile......GoTo123 went to the member menu and began to search for her profile. When it came up, he highlighted it and printed it out. He took out a pen and began to write down what he knew about Angel so far.

Her name: Shannon
Birthday: Jan. 3, 1985
Age: 13
State where she lived: North Carolina
Hobbies: softball, chorus, skating and going to the mall.

Besides this information, he knew she lived in Canton because she had just told him. He knew she stayed by herself until 6:30 p.m. every afternoon until her parents came home from work. He knew she played softball on Thursday afternoons on the school team, and the team was named the Canton Cats. Her favorite number 7 was printed on her jersey. He knew she was in the eight grade at the Canton Junior High School. She had told him all this in the conversations they had on- line. He had enough information to find her now.

Shannon didn't tell her parents about the incident on the way home from the ball park that day. She didn't want them to make a scene and stop her from walking home from the softball games. Parents were always overreacting and hers were the worst. It made her wish she was not an only child. Maybe if she had brothers and sisters, her parents wouldn't be so overprotective.

By Thursday, Shannon had forgotten about the footsteps following her.

Her game was in full swing when suddenly she felt someone staring at her. It was then that the memory came back. She glanced up from her second base position to see a man watching her closely.

He was leaning against the fence behind first base and he smiled when she looked at him. He didn't look scary and she quickly dismissed the fear she had felt.

After the game, he sat on a bleacher while she talked to the coach. She noticed his smile once again as she walked past him. He nodded and she smiled back. He noticed her name on the back of her shirt. He knew he had found her. Quietly, he walked a safe distance behind her. It was only a few blocks to Shannon's home, and once he saw where she lived he quickly returned to the park to get his car.

Now he had to wait. He decided to get a bite to eat until the time came to go to Shannon's house. He drove to a fast food restaurant and sat there until time to make his move.

Shannon was in her room later that evening when she heard voices in the living room.

"Shannon, come here," her father called. He sounded upset and she couldn't imagine why. She went into the room to see the man from the ballpark sitting on the sofa.

"Sit down," her father began, "this man has just told us a most interesting story about you."

Shannon sat back. How could he tell her parents anything? She had never seen him before today!

"Do you know who I am, Shannon?" the man asked.

"No," Shannon answered.

"I am a police officer and your online friend, GoTo123."

Shannon was stunned. "That's impossible! GoTo is a kid my age!
He ?s 14 and he lives in Michigan!"

The man smiled. "I know I told you all that, but it wasn't true.
You see, Shannon, there are people on-line who pretend to be kids; I was one of them. But while others do it to find kids and hurt them, I belong to a group of parents who do it to protect kids from predators. I came here to find you to teach you how dangerous it is to talk to people on-line. You told me enough about yourself to make it easy for me to find you. Your name the school you went to, the name of your ball team and the position you played. The number and name on your jersey just made finding you a breeze."

Shannon was stunned. "You mean you don't live in Michigan?"

He laughed. "No, I live in Raleigh. It made you feel safe to think I was so far away, didn't it?"

She nodded.

"I had a friend whose daughter was like you. Only she wasn't as lucky. The guy found her and murdered her while she was home alone. Kids are taught not to tell anyone when they are alone, yet they do it all the time on-line. The wrong people trick you into giving out information a little here and there on-line. Before you know it, you have told them enough for them to find you without even realizing you have done it. I hope you've learned a lesson from this and won't do it again. Tell others about this so they will be safe too?"

"It's a promise!"

What are your thoughts on internet usage? For the younger crowd...do your parents monitor your internet usage...to the parents here...do you know what sites your kids are on and who they are talking to?

Do you think there is a problem out there in internet-land or do you think this is a situation that is isolated and rare? Does anyone have any RL (real life) experiences they would like to share?

charlio lemieux
9-15-05, 11:33 AM
That's creepy. To think someone would patiently gather enough information on a person over weeks or months until they had enough to find them.

THE HACK
9-15-05, 4:30 PM
This is scary and not an isolated incident as you hear this kind of stuff happening all the time.Its good to know that there are people out there(like the cop in this instance) that do monitor messageboards and are looking out for the youngsters that don't know any better.There's alot of sicko's out there so youngsters have to be careful and its up to the PARENTS to point this kind of stuff out before letting their children surf the internet so to avoid any kind of tragedy from occuring.

I learned my lesson from a "South Park" episode of Eric Cartman joining NAMBLA and surfing the internet for friends.

Cartman: Hi,I'm 8 yrs old and looking for a friend

Hungdaddy: Hi, I'm 8 inches and I'll be your friend :eyebug:

Cheers

charlio lemieux
9-15-05, 5:13 PM
I learned my lesson from a "South Park" episode of Eric Cartman joining NAMBLA and surfing the internet for friends.

Cartman: Hi,I'm 8 yrs old and looking for a friend

Hungdaddy: Hi, I'm 8 inches and I'll be your friend


LMAO :rollover2

Rusty
9-15-05, 5:19 PM
Funny as that sounds there are sickos out there exactly like that, and to some 13 year old it may turn into a nightmare.

TimmyTabasco
9-15-05, 8:36 PM
Funny as that sounds there are sickos out there exactly like that, and to some 13 year old it may turn into a nightmare.

True Rusty

But then you have to ask the question..why are the parents allowing the 13yr old to access these chats?

PDO
9-15-05, 8:47 PM
True Rusty

But then you have to ask the question..why are the parents allowing the 13yr old to access these chats?

Her screen name on AIM is the equivialent of MSN Messenger. Looks pretty harmless.

I've been talking to people online since I was about 12 or 13, I've even met a few at controlled places. My parents tried to keep track of me, but it's not exactly easy to do.. I don't know when they stopped, but it was a while ago. Probally helped I've been over 6' tall for a long time.

Newfie John
9-15-05, 9:21 PM
Now that I think about it, who knows how much I've told you freaks. ;)

PDO
9-15-05, 9:23 PM
Now that I think about it, who knows how much I've told you freaks. ;)

Your name is John, you live in some **** hole in NFL, abid leaf fan, the type of vehicles you own, the fact you rolled your car, the name of a local bar you're often at.

That's just off the top of my head, honest :nod:

Newfie John
9-15-05, 9:29 PM
Your name is John, you live in some **** hole in NFL, abid leaf fan, the type of vehicles you own, the fact you rolled your car, the name of a local bar you're often at.

That's just off the top of my head, honest :nod:

How do you know I'm not 30 years old living in a hole in the house next door to you. I didn't roll a car, I rolled a truck, and the name of the bar is false, thats just where I get my porn? How do you know? You don't. BTW, whats your phone #? Don't want to tell me? Ok.. I know your name is Brian, are you named after your father?

Ok, I'll stop. I'll blow my cov... I mean I'll freak you out, silly me.

PDO
9-15-05, 9:32 PM
How do you know I'm not 30 years old living in a hole in the house next door to you. I didn't roll a car, I rolled a truck, and the name of the bar is false, thats just where I get my porn? How do you know? You don't. BTW, whats your phone #? Don't want to tell me? Ok.. I know your name is Brian, are you named after your father?

Ok, I'll stop. I'll blow my cov... I mean I'll freak you out, silly me.

My phone number is 382-5968

First person to get it wins a prize.

grim
9-15-05, 9:33 PM
Now that I think about it, who knows how much I've told you freaks. ;)

I'm talking to some Newfie hitmen on the phone right now. D@mned if I can't hardly understand a word they're saying. A what??!?? A cod job? $200?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38578000/jpg/_38578655_fishermen300.jpg

Newfie John
9-15-05, 9:34 PM
My phone number is 382-5968

First person to get it wins a prize.

I'm tempted to call it.. :laughing:

PDO
9-15-05, 9:36 PM
I'm tempted to call it.. :laughing:

Look at your phone carefully :thumb:

Newfie John
9-15-05, 9:38 PM
Look at your phone carefully :thumb:

Is it some gay sex hotline?

*Adds to notes about PDO(AKA- Brian), he is a homosexual.

PDO
9-15-05, 9:38 PM
Is it some gay sex hotline?

Nope. I don't know what the number is, TBH. Never called it, nor heard of it. Like I said, look at your phone.. you might figure it out :)

Newfie John
9-15-05, 9:40 PM
Nope. I don't know what the number is, TBH. Never called it, nor heard of it. Like I said, look at your phone.. you might figure it out :)

F*ck you?

PDO
9-15-05, 9:40 PM
F*ck you?

:wave:

Newfie John
9-15-05, 9:43 PM
:wave:

What's my prize? It doesn't involve the words "meeting" or "anal" does it?

a4l
9-16-05, 2:27 AM
How do you know I'm not 30 years old living in a hole in the house next door to you. I didn't roll a car, I rolled a truck, and the name of the bar is false, thats just where I get my porn? How do you know?
If that's you Bill, quit lying about your age. You are 84. ;)

butterfly_style
9-16-05, 10:03 AM
My phone number is 382-5968

First person to get it wins a prize.
Yeah well. Duck you too!

Mel
9-16-05, 10:05 AM
Give me a reason to keep this thread open please (i.e. go back on topic) or I'll close it. Thanks.

THE HACK
9-16-05, 4:35 PM
But then you have to ask the question..why are the parents allowing the 13yr old to access these chats?

There's nothing wrong with letting 13 yr olds chat online but it is the parents responsibility to point out the dangers involved and to let the kids know not to give out personal information in any circumstances to anybody you don't know.Awarness is the key and as long as the kids know the dangers to internet chatting then they'll be fine! I find the problem has to do with parents not finding the time to educate their kids and just letting them do anything or basically letting the computers and tvs become the kids babysitters because parents don't want to deal with them?

Cheers

Canadian26
9-16-05, 7:46 PM
I think it really depends, there only is so much a parent can control.

Quite honestly most kids grow out of Chatlines with ina year a two, and now with MSN most ppl dont have the need to go onto a chat line. At least with MSN you have a degree of control, and it generally stops you from going onto a chat, so your uslaly just talking to ppl you know. Many of my cousins, are about 10-14 years old, they all use MSN. None of them has ever gone to a chat line, nor do they plan to.

I think its all about accessibility... Kids are smarter these days to, they get taught this kinda stuff from parents and teachers and stuff to.

go_leafs_go02
9-17-05, 12:15 AM
Well here are some of the things I've done since I gotten online about 5 years ago..when I was roughly 12.

First of all, I only use MSN, and have a private email for only people who know me personally in real life. I also have a public email which I use for website registration, and chatting to people I met online..but we all do have the common interest in hockey. However, I rarely go on that email, and use my personal email about 99% of the time.

Although being on forums for over 3 years now, I've been pretty good so far, as far as I know I haven't given my identity away, and knew the precautions before I got online.

I have complete freedom on the computer, my parents trust me (probably due to my lack of troublemaking anywhere..i've been known to go against the flow of peer pressure, since I don't look or want to cause trouble or piss someone off) They know roughly of the forums I use, and know what I do online, but they don't really care too much about what I do.

I probably gave away too much info in this post :P

The Insider
9-17-05, 12:23 AM
It is troublesome that the internet which is used for so much good in the world, could also be used for one of the worst of all evils. It isn't uncommon to hear about such things happening, but I think if we all safeguard ourselves, we won't have to worry about it. I personally have maybe gone into a chat room once or twice, and I had no clue what all the hoop-lah was about. I think that it does come down to the parents to take care of their kids online, since simply letting them to wonder the web unprotected could get them into a lot of trouble.

a4l
9-17-05, 7:03 AM
The only people I talk to on line are those from sports forums, friends, and family. I tend to be one of the oldest people on forums so my problem is the reverse. I often wonder if it is ok to chat to anyone younger than 20. A male friend on another forum, who is my age, is almost paranoid about chatting to young females though he makes no secret of his age and the fact that he has a 19 yr old son.