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Straight from the horses mouth in Brian Murray. Havlat and Heatley both will start the season as LW's (we know Heatley is quite comfortable there, hopefully Havlat can make the switch from just on the PP to full time), and Alfredsson is obviously our #1 RW. That leaves Bochenski, Varada, and Neil on the RW, so at least offensively speaking Bo is probably the logical choice. The coaching staff reportedly wasted no time in uniting Spezza and Bochenski to see their chemistrey. Apparently they were really impressed. Murray was very quick to point out Bochenski's skating, widely considered his biggest flaw, would not be an issue even in the new NHL. Apparently, he more than held his own in all the skating drills and was fine during game situations. I'm more worried about his defensive game. I guess whoever plays with Heater and Spetzky won't have to worry about too much coverage going their way. Interesting turn of events. Maybe we see something like this?
Heatley - Spezza - Bochenski
Havlat - Smolinski - Alfredsson
Schaefer - Fisher - Varada
McGratton - Vermette - Neil
Newfie John
9-14-05, 7:35 PM
It's a good thing he's with a guy like Spezza. You know my reasoning.
From the best RW in the league last year with a mediocre, to the best LW in the league this year with a mediocre RW ;).
Interesting that both Heatley and Havlat will play on the LW.. theory must be to keep them off the ice together (defensive liability..?)
From the best RW in the league last year with a mediocre, to the best LW in the league this year with a mediocre RW ;).
Funny how things work. ;) This will be an interesting season. With all the variables this could be our best team ever by a clear margin, and big favorites to be Cup champs if everyone steps up when neeeded. We could also be battling for a low playoff spot in March if everything that could go wrong does. And you Oil fans know as well as anyone that the better team doesn't always get that last seed.
If Bochenski can prove to be an adequate RW'er I think we're fine. Alfie would then be a fine 1st liner, Bo a fine 2nd liner, Varada a 3rd liner, and Neil a 4th liner. We'd be solid though unspectacular throughout the depth chart (other than Alfie who is a star). It is worth noting that Bo has scored at every level he's played at in spite of the same arguements being pinned against him. And Sens management seems to know best in matters like this.
Interesting that both Heatley and Havlat will play on the LW.. theory must be to keep them off the ice together (defensive liability..?)
IMO you're half right. They don't want Havlat and Heatley on the same line, but for reasons other than defensive ones (although that'd obviously be a concern). Bochenski is being pencilled in by coach Murray after all so it can't all be about two-way play.....:
- The best lines seem to have two great offensive threats, and one good one. Not 3. See Vancouver's big line (Naslund, Bertuzzi, Morrison). How about Kurri/Gretzky, Yzerman/Shanahan, Sakick/Tanguay, and Forsbger/Tanguay. Two seems to be golden, three seems to be a crowd. May aswell (somewhat) balance the scoring if you can still have two legit threats on the ice.
- They play a very similar game and wouldn't seem to compliment each other very well based on their styles, but perhaps even butt-heads.
I'm a big proponent of balanced scoring actually, but don't forget about Hejduk in Colorado ;).
A balanced attack (asides from the PP and the last couple minutes) will beat a one-line team more often than not.
A balanced attack (asides from the PP and the last couple minutes) will beat a one-line team more often than not.
Also known as the "Vancouver Canucks Syndrome".:D
From what I remember of Bochenski's time at UND, I think he'll be a solid player for the Sens. He's not going to put up huge numbers in the NHL, but playing alongside guys like Heatley, Havlat, and Spezza he could be a good complimentary player. If nothing else, I could see him becoming a larger version of Brian Gionta (although I don't think he's as hard of a worker as Gio is). I also seem to recall Bochenski playing the left side a bit for the Sioux.
Either way, with Alfredsson, Spezza, Heatley, and Havlat up front, the Sens have two dangerous scoring lines. I wish my team had the "problem" of figuring out where players like Heatley and Havlat are going to play.:)
I'm a big proponent of balanced scoring actually, but don't forget about Hejduk in Colorado ;).
A balanced attack (asides from the PP and the last couple minutes) will beat a one-line team more often than not.
Nuts. I knew that too. I meant to put Hejduks name in for Tanguay's with the Forsberg pairing. Good catch.
Balanced attacks aren't always the best solution. There comes a point where you just start taking too much fire power away from what is supposed to your number one line. We saw that last year with Martin. In the worst scenario's he had Havlat as our 3rd RW and Spezza as 4 line C. :eek:
I like this new system Murray is going to put in place. Each line will have a designated role and the players will be pencilled in accordingly. Have scoring lines 1a and 1b; both with two stars and one adequate player, one legit grinding line, and a line that can go out and pumble the opposition while not giving up many chances (even if they can't make any themselves).
Heatley - Spezza - Bochenski
Havlat - Smolinski - Alfredsson
Schaefer - Fisher - Varada
McGratton - Vermette - Neil
:thumb:
I've heard quite a few times now that Bochenski can play LW if needed, although he prefers the right side. Thanks for the comformation, MD. So that's 4 players like that now with Havlat, Heatley, and Varada all also in the pile.....
Max Power
9-15-05, 9:12 AM
Funny on sportsnet the top story last night was how Belfour just gets better. They also played (one time) a quick segment on how Hasek might not be able to do it because he hasn?t played in two years. Not playing for over one year I guess makea you better but two much worse? Oh yah and Sportsnet Ontario will be treated with Maple leaf only Hockeycentral
I guess we'll need to count on Garrioch to report on the Sens
September 15, 2005
Spezza draws in Heatley, Bochenski
By Bruce Garrioch, Ottawa Sun
Even with all the newcomers attending training camp, it looks like the Senators will be sporting a vastly different look in their line pairings.
It started in practice yesterday as coach Bryan Murray put captain Daniel Alfredsson on a line with Martin Havlat on left wing and Bryan Smolinski at centre.
Meanwhile, centre Jason Spezza, as promised, was with right winger Dany Heatley and, somewhat surprisingly, rookie left winger Brandon Bochenski.
There was an interesting combination with Mike Fisher in the middle of Peter Schaefer and Chris Neil, while veteran Vaclav Varada was on a line that included Antoine Vermette and Brian McGrattan.
A player of great interest going into camp is Bochenski, who was shocked yesterday when he found out he was paired with Spezza and Heatley.
But GM John Muckler is convinced Bochenski has a shot to make the team.
"He could be a guy who surprises everybody. He has scored at every level he has been at," said Muckler.
Bochenski, who had 34 goals and 36 assists while playing with Spezza last year in Binghamton, didn't mind the company he was keeping.
"It's nice when you're with guys that you know aren't going to make mistakes," he said.
So according to Garrioch this is what's being played
Bochenski - Spezza - Heatley
Havlat - Smolinski - Alfredsson
Schaefer - Fisher - Neil
McGratton - Vermette - Varada
Madferret
9-15-05, 12:08 PM
Max, when the wheels & bandaids fall of the Leafs I assure you we will be the last ones laughing. It will only be a matter of time my friend. Have faith.
Funny on sportsnet the top story last night was how Belfour just gets better. They also played (one time) a quick segment on how Hasek might not be able to do it because he hasn?t played in two years. Not playing for over one year I guess makea you better but two much worse? Oh yah and Sportsnet Ontario will be treated with Maple leaf only Hockeycentral
You sound surprised? Sportsnet is the "ALL LEAF ALL THE TIME" network, and if time permits we will allow ouselves to talk about some other Canadian NHL teams. At least LEAFTV calls itself for what it is. The only other network/TV show that rivals Sportsnet as far as Leaf propoganda and biased reporting goes is the CBC and HNIC. The spin and slant towards anything Leaf that these two networks report on is undeniable. I find TSN for the most part attempts to provide objective journalism by using credible reporters, but Sportsnet is a complete joke.
Max Power
9-15-05, 12:54 PM
It's funny because they even had this pathetic leaf story as the top story. Belfour gets better with age and after over a year break followed by how Hasek might not be to good after two years break? What's funny is they only played the Sens story once but the leaf story was on at the top of each half hour segment. So far they've already had three top stories on leaf training camp but not one about Sens even though they've made the most significant changes between the two.
I guess after each year I hope these guys would start being a little more professional
You sound surprised? Sportsnet is the "ALL LEAF ALL THE TIME" network, and if time permits we will allow ouselves to talk about some other Canadian NHL teams. At least LEAFTV calls itself for what it is. The only other network/TV show that rivals Sportsnet as far as Leaf propoganda and biased reporting goes is the CBC and HNIC. The spin and slant towards anything Leaf that these two networks report on is undeniable. I find TSN for the most part attempts to provide objective journalism by using credible reporters, but Sportsnet is a complete joke.
You mean like how Sportsnet produces glowing articles about the leafs one after another... but still has the Ian Mendes Senators-trashing article on their website 7 weeks later?
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Newfie John
9-15-05, 5:08 PM
We should get Oprah on the phone.
Max Power
9-15-05, 5:26 PM
We should get Oprah on the phone.
To be perfectly honest I would think the more mature and big hockey fans who are fans of the leafs would be annoyed with being babied like this by a network. I?d want to know how my competition looks and as a hockey fan I?d like it too. But I guess if they?re targeting a younger audience then I guess they need to make them feel better about their team and try to keep them continuously happy by telling them how great things are for them and how bad it looks for their rival. Or just not mention them at all
Madferret
9-15-05, 5:45 PM
To be perfectly honest I would think the more mature and big hockey fans who are fans of the leafs would be annoyed with being babied like this by a network. I?d want to know how my competition looks and as a hockey fan I?d like it too. But I guess if they?re targeting a younger audience then I guess they need to make them feel better about their team and try to keep them continuously happy by telling them how great things are for them and how bad it looks for their rival. Or just not mention them at all
Well said Maxy.
Leaf fans wonder why everyone hates them...take a guess guys.
Newfie John
9-15-05, 8:14 PM
To be perfectly honest I would think the more mature and big hockey fans who are fans of the leafs would be annoyed with being babied like this by a network. I?d want to know how my competition looks and as a hockey fan I?d like it too. But I guess if they?re targeting a younger audience then I guess they need to make them feel better about their team and try to keep them continuously happy by telling them how great things are for them and how bad it looks for their rival. Or just not mention them at all
They're targeting leaf fans period. Not "younger" leaf fans. They may be even targeting leaf haters. You may not have attempted it, but it seemed to me you tried to make me look naive. It's not that hard to comprehend guys. Canada's sport is hockey. The majority of Canadian hockey fans are leaf fans, over any other canadian team. If they want to increase their ratings they're gonna show more leafs, maybe even be a bit pro-leaf. Do I care? No. Just play the game I don't care how you deliver it, I know my team on the ice. I know Sundin isn't Gretzky, even though sometimes the media makes it seem that way. My comment was just to lighten up the situation. I mean really, is it that serious? You know the reality, and so do I. These networks are just trying to earn points, if you will with the largest fan base, and maybe even the team itself to get better deals on television or what have you. Do what I do, don't have a hissy fit over what the media says. You guys are smart enough hockey fans to know what's right and what isn't. There are a few good analysts out there who actually know what they're talking about. Don't go looking for the things you hate such as this Sportsnet article and then bitch about it. If you want factual stuff, it's not that hard to find. The media to knowledgable hockey fans is regurgated stuff that we already know, only spruced up to appeal to certain people. Judging by your reaction, it looks like it's working. I wonder how many hits Sportsnet got because of this 'bias'. You have some leaf fans looking at it saying how true, the smarter ones saying, "Yeah, seen that before" and you have the haters who go on and bitch about it. Sportsnet doesn't care how they get their hits, as long as they get them.
They could get more money from the advertisements on their webpage, and possibly get these same people who read the article to watch the channel, to either enjoy or bitch about.
John, combined there's more "other fans" than Leaf fans. Simple math states it makes more sense to appeal to everyone equally than go out on a Leaf limb.
Newfie John
9-15-05, 8:25 PM
John, combined there's more "other fans" than Leaf fans. Simple math states it makes more sense to appeal to everyone equally than go out on a Leaf limb.
This is true. If all the other teams joined into one then you would see these networks sucking up to them.
Hypothetically though, lets say sportsnet did do what every other canadian hockey fan(other then a leaf fan) would like them to do, and that is bash the leafs day in and day out. They're not helping themselves because eventually it would become redundant. Look how fast it took before LH got old, though thats a different can of marbles. Not to mention, the other teams wouldn't be interested on a network that focus' on just shooting down another team, maybe then they'd start bashing them. Surely the leafs won't support them. What are they going to show? The same old redundant crap? The way they are doing it now, sure they are releasing reduntant crap, but that crap benefits them more then you know.
Who said I want them to shoot down another team?
I just want equal programming, and it'd pay off in the long run by all logical thought.
Newfie John
9-15-05, 8:33 PM
Who said I want them to shoot down another team?
I just want equal programming, and it'd pay off in the long run by all logical thought.
Not necessarily you, but I bet there are a lot of people who posted in this thread to have Ian Mendes write that story about the leafs and the other guy writing about the Sens.
Equal programming equals less $$ for those networks. Once again, is it right? No. Do I care? Not really. I don't care how they feed it to me, as long as I get it. I have no problem with watching a game without commentators. I thought you guys would feel the same way. This pro-leaf trend has been happening a lot, yet examples like in this thread are continuously brought up. We get it. It's not the fans of the leafs that are the cause of this.
John, Equal programming = not alienating 60% of the market = more $$. Serisouly, how many fans do they "gain" by being idiots? *Maybe* 50% of leafers which is = to 20% of the market. For that small cost, they alienate 60%. Like I said, idiots.
Newfie John
9-15-05, 8:43 PM
John, Equal programming = not alienating 60% of the market = more $$. Serisouly, how many fans do they "gain" by being idiots? *Maybe* 50% of leafers which is = to 20% of the market. For that small cost, they alienate 60%. Like I said, idiots.
It's not about fans. The people who watch it don't have to like what they see in this instance. I mean look at this thread for example. Look at the uproar things like this have always caused. Just as many leaf fans look at that with happiness, and just as many leaf haters look at it with disgust. Then they bitch about it and look for more, then rejoice and talk about it some more, and the cycle continues.
I think the problem is that the Leafs get National coverage even when there are Candian teams playing at the same time in more desireable contests. If there are two low key matchups, one involving the Leafs, the TO game will get more ratings. We know that as hockey fans and just have to suck it up. Bigger teams = bigger bucks and that's the way it is. And we here in Canada still get lots of coverage for our squad regardless.
But the real problem is that most hockey fans (and almost if not all non-supporters the blue and white) would rather watch Edmoton/Dallas, Ottawa/Philadelphia, Vancouver/Colorado, or Calgary/Nashville than Toronto/Washington and thus it would translate to higher ratings to not show the Maple Leafs. So what game do we see? Toronto/Washington. That's what pisses me off. :mad:
Newfie John
9-15-05, 8:50 PM
I think the problem is that the Leafs get National coverage even when there are Candian teams playing at the same time in mnore desireable contests. If there are two low key matchups, one involving the Leafs, the TO game will get more ratings. We know that as hockey fans and just have to suck it up. Bigger teams = bigger bucks and that's the way it is. And we here in Canada still get lots of coverage for our squad regardless.
But the real problem is that most hockey fans (and almost if not all non-supporters the blue and white) would rather watch Edmoton/Dallas, Ottawa/Philadelphia, Vancouver/Colorado, or Calgary/Nashville than Toronto/Washington and thus it would translate to higher ratings to not show the Maple Leafs. So what game do we see? Toronto/Washington. That's what pisses me off. :mad:
Well I think this year's CBC schedule isn't as bad as it was. The leafs still dominate it, as they should since they get the most ratings nationally. But fans of the other teams still see a lot of their team because of the regional coverage.
Well I think this year's CBC schedule isn't as bad as it was. The leafs still dominate it, as they should since they get the most ratings nationally. But fans of the other teams still see a lot of their team because of the regional coverage.
It's getting better for sure, but it's still featuring too many games like the example I listed in my last post.
And how about giving Toronto the regional game for once and giving one of the other Canadian teams the national feed (providing the schedual would make it worthwhile economically)? To start last year, or the year before anyway, Ottawa played Detroit and was only shown in the Ottawa Valley. It was a thrilling game (Wings won in OT). Meanwhile, Toronto was playing a weak opponent (Buffalo I think it was) and the snooze-fest was seen coast to coast. Now, looking at the hockey fans in this country as a whole, what game do you think would have drawn better ratings? I'd wager the Ottawa one.
charlio lemieux
9-15-05, 10:10 PM
30% of canada's population lives within 100 mile radius of Toronto. Plus there's Leafs fans scattered accross the country. The biggest advertizing dollars come from the biggest market, and Toronto is the biggest market in Canada.
Personally I enjoyed TSN's out of town coverage quite a bit. I get to watch a fair bit of Vancouver on HNIC, but I would like to see more of the Alberta teams.
Newfie John
9-16-05, 6:12 AM
It's getting better for sure, but it's still featuring too many games like the example I listed in my last post.
And how about giving Toronto the regional game for once and giving one of the other Canadian teams the national feed (providing the schedual would make it worthwhile economically)? To start last year, or the year before anyway, Ottawa played Detroit and was only shown in the Ottawa Valley. It was a thrilling game (Wings won in OT). Meanwhile, Toronto was playing a weak opponent (Buffalo I think it was) and the snooze-fest was seen coast to coast. Now, looking at the hockey fans in this country as a whole, what game do you think would have drawn better ratings? I'd wager the Ottawa one.
I'm not so sure. You have to remember CBC is out to make money here. If the Ottawa game would have gotten better ratings, rest assured the sens game would have been televised nationally. CBC, nor I, think that this was out rate a leaf game. Why? How many Wing fans are in Canada? How many Sens fans in Canada? Pretty much all of them are in Ottawa(Sen Fans). They might as well just show the game there, where if you cut the leafs to regional TV, the ratings will go down significantly since there is such a lot of fans of the leafs all across Canada. That's a fact. All you have to do is go into other team's buildings and hear "Go Leafs Go."
I'm not so sure. You have to remember CBC is out to make money here. If the Ottawa game would have gotten better ratings, rest assured the sens game would have been televised nationally. CBC, nor I, think that this was out rate a leaf game. Why? How many Wing fans are in Canada? How many Sens fans in Canada? Pretty much all of them are in Ottawa(Sen Fans). They might as well just show the game there, where if you cut the leafs to regional TV, the ratings will go down significantly since there is such a lot of fans of the leafs all across Canada. That's a fact. All you have to do is go into other team's buildings and hear "Go Leafs Go."
In the past the Sens never even got regional coverage on the CBC. If nobody complained then it would never change. At least now this year the Sens have at least a bit more regional coverage on our tax funded national broadcaster. I've come to terms with the Leaf propagada and hype that is created by our national sports shows; it's similar to what the States does with their US teams when they go abroad or play in the Olympics, their coverage is laughable and slanted and unbelievably biased too. And like the States, most of our national sports shows should never be considered an acceptable form of sports journalism.
Max Power
9-16-05, 8:54 AM
Listen John as much as you like to come to your own conclusion on what we Sens fans have a problem with or like to make us look like a bunch of whiners the simple fact is that we were just having a light discussion on how unprofessional the sports net crew is in our own forum. I don?t care if they need to babe leaf fans by playing a pointless story on them as their top story each night. I don?t care if they take up half their airtime. The only point I was making was how it would be nice to have an unbiased update filling me in on the day?s events. That?s it that?s all. You can come in this forum and be as condescending as you want but the simple fact is if the roles were reversed you?d want the same.
Max Power
9-16-05, 9:15 AM
If anybody is interested I noticed To The Point on The Score is going to have a segment on Hasek and his return tonight
Listen John as much as you like to come to your own conclusion on what we Sens fans have a problem with or like to make us look like a bunch of whiners the simple fact is that we were just having a light discussion on how unprofessional the sports net crew is in our own forum. I don?t care if they need to babe leaf fans by playing a pointless story on them as their top story each night. I don?t care if they take up half their airtime. The only point I was making was how it would be nice to have an unbiased update filling me in on the day?s events. That?s it that?s all. You can come in this forum and be as condescending as you want but the simple fact is if the roles were reversed you?d want the same.
Whoa. I just looked back in here. A fairly successful fishing trip for young John. Like he's from a place where fishing is a way of life or something. Max I'm surprised you're still biting at wiggly worms. Ian Mendes would be proud. :]
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Madferret
9-16-05, 10:07 AM
There's a special on Darcy Tucker tonight on SN.
John / Leaf fans get our your vaseline, the rest of Canada get out your buckets.
Max Power
9-16-05, 10:17 AM
Whoa. I just looked back in here. A fairly successful fishing trip for young John. Like he's from a place where fishing is a way of life or something. Max I'm surprised you're still biting at wiggly worms. Ian Mendes would be proud. :]
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I'm just a small catch with little fight... The real fun is when Dev gets pulled into the action =]
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bluemeanie
9-16-05, 11:45 AM
There's a special on Darcy Tucker tonight on SN.
John / Leaf fans get our your vaseline, the rest of Canada get out your buckets.
I'll be bringing my Vaseline to the game on Sunday... na na na naaaa na
Madferret
9-16-05, 11:53 AM
I'll be bringing my Vaseline to the game on Sunday... na na na naaaa na
Is that when you get your first glimpse of Tucker & Domi on the Leafs scoring line? Congrats Blue my friend!
:D
Max Power
9-16-05, 11:57 AM
Is that when you get your first glimpse of Tucker & Domi on the Leafs scoring line? Congrats Blue my friend!
:D
You know who it's for
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bluemeanie
9-16-05, 12:13 PM
You know who it's for
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Well with that new hair cut, who can resist... I'll be the guy wearing the red clown nose banging on the glass evertime he skates by.
Only have two tickets, and I owe the little misses a night out on the town. =] sorry Dev... but I do have some extra tickets to tonights screening of Transamerica (http://www.e.bell.ca/filmfest/2005/films_description.asp?id=286) if you're interested?
Madferret
9-16-05, 1:06 PM
Well with that new hair cut, who can resist... I'll be the guy wearing the red clown nose banging on the glass evertime he skates by.
Only have two tickets, and I owe the little misses a night out on the town. =] sorry Dev... but I do have some extra tickets to tonights screening of Transamerica (http://www.e.bell.ca/filmfest/2005/films_description.asp?id=286) if you're interested?
Duncan Tucker?
lol
Newfie John
9-16-05, 3:15 PM
I'm not trying to make you guys look like anything. I'm just saying that your complaining about this is only promoting it, whether directly or indirectly is a different story.
I'm not so sure. You have to remember CBC is out to make money here. If the Ottawa game would have gotten better ratings, rest assured the sens game would have been televised nationally. CBC, nor I, think that this was out rate a leaf game. Why? How many Wing fans are in Canada? How many Sens fans in Canada? Pretty much all of them are in Ottawa(Sen Fans). They might as well just show the game there, where if you cut the leafs to regional TV, the ratings will go down significantly since there is such a lot of fans of the leafs all across Canada. That's a fact. All you have to do is go into other team's buildings and hear "Go Leafs Go."
There are more non-Leaf hockey fans in this country than Leaf fans though. They form the majority. And I'm sure that majority would've rather seen Detroit/Ottawa than Toronto/Buffalo. Plus, succesful teams like Detroit always have a small following due to glory hunters. Being an original six team helps too. In some fairly isolated scenarios, Toronto should be getting the regional game.
Anyone see the Meszaros hit on Shcaefer on TSN tonight from trainning camp!?!?! :eyebug: Notes from camp (per Gordie Wilson, TEAM 1200):
-lines are the same as they've been all camp
-he said Meszaros was one of the standouts
-said Mez has been hitting a ton and has looked great, very smilar to Volchenkov's impressive, bull-like display in 03 apparently. really had Peter Schaefer's number in particular. was quite confident.
-Eaves has been showing very little in comparison to some nice rookie tournament showings.
-the Spezza, Heatley, Bochenski line has looked really good. thinks Bo could be the nice surprise of camp - has a definate shot at making the team and his fait will likely be decided in the per-season. if he manages to light the lamp consistantly they'll likely keep him and see if it continues in the regular season. if not they send him down.
-the Fisher, Schaefer, Neil line has looked good
-Neil has bulked up and came to camp as ready as anyone
-McGratton doesn't look out of place at all, great shot at making team if we want another scrapper. all but a lock if that's indeed the case.
-Chara blocked a shot and took a while to get up. played all his shifts after however, so probably nothing serious.
-Volchenkov playing the right side in Bingo seems to be paying off. He was argueably our best defenseman yesterady among stellar competition and the Redden/Volchenkov pairing look very good. Finally a legit, top 4 partner for Wade? Let's hope. Anton wasn't very comfortable on the right pervious, so a big thanks to the Bingo staff for helping him adjust.
-All 4 goalies looked very, very good althgouh there appeared to be some rust on Hasek that he had to shake off early on.
Madferret
9-17-05, 9:48 AM
Anyone see the Meszaros hit on Shcaefer on TSN tonight from trainning camp!?!?!
Yep, just saw it this morning on SC. Schaef gave Mezzy a little stick business after also, wasn't too impressed but it was clean and he shouldn't be crossing the blue line so carelessly like that, especially when there is kids trying to make an impression with the coaches.
Another defenseman for our opponents to watch out for?. Z, Philly, ATrain, Mezzy...heads up.
Newfie John
9-17-05, 10:22 AM
There are more non-Leaf hockey fans in this country than Leaf fans though. They form the majority. And I'm sure that majority would've rather seen Detroit/Ottawa than Toronto/Buffalo. Plus, succesful teams like Detroit always have a small following due to glory hunters. Being an original six team helps too. In some fairly isolated scenarios, Toronto should be getting the regional game.
If it was an Ottawa vs Montreal game then I'd understand, and that probably should be showed nationally. An Ottawa/Detroit though? I'm not so sure. Different conferences, no real rivalry, whereas Buffalo vs T.O is a divisional affair, let alone conference. They're practically neighbors also.
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