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Ratzinger of Germany.... will go by the name Benedict.
:jacks: :groovy:
But he is soooooooooooo conservative. :cry:
TimmyTabasco
4-19-05, 1:14 PM
I'm a non-practicing Catholic, and right now I know why :D
This guy is supposedly very conservative, and orthodox..
The church had the opportunity to move forward, and once again..took a step back.
Would have preferred to see Arinze or even Tettamanzi..both would bring change
Bob burns
4-19-05, 1:39 PM
I thought this pope was going to be from one of the developing nations of the world?? From what I hear this new pope, Benedict XVI, is a very conservative person. I hope he will be as progressive as the last pope when it comes to world economics, and more progressive concerning social issues like birth control and gay rights. Somehow I do not think he will be...
slapshot™
4-19-05, 1:55 PM
Damn...I guess everyone will be buying up his rookie card. E-bay is going to be hot, hot, hot over the next few weeks....
http://www.mantofev.com/pimages/holy%20cards.JPG
KB in Kelowna
4-19-05, 2:02 PM
Ratzinrger has been a hardliner on theoilogy and dogma. But he is 78 years old and may only be around for a short period of time. There is an old joke about him, that he dies at the dame time as two liberal theologists and the are in line to see St. Peter. the first theologist goes in, comes out shaking his head saying"I can't believe I got so much wrong". The second goes in , comes out of St Peter's office saying "I can't believe I got so much wrong". Finally Ratzinger goes in and 2 hours late St Peter comes out shaking his head and saying "I can't believe I got it so wrong!"
I'm a non-practicing Catholic, and right now I know why :D
This guy is supposedly very conservative, and orthodox..
The church had the opportunity to move forward, and once again..took a step back.
Would have preferred to see Arinze or even Tettamanzi..both would bring change
I am a practicing Catholic, a 3rd degree Knight of Columbus as well. I don't know a lot about any of the people mentioned, but I do hope that the right choice was made.
Thinking that any Pope would allow for gay marriages is pushing it, but I was (and still am) hoping that some progress is being made slowly. For one, I'd really like to see priest being able to get married and have children of their own. That in itself would be a huge step forward.
Increasing the activinties of women in the church would be great as well. Women priests are not a bad thing. I would also like to see a sexual assault protocol, that includes defrocking ALL clergy who are found guilty of such offenses. No more child molesting cardinals celebrating mass and selecting a new pope.
KB in Kelowna
4-19-05, 4:44 PM
Increasing the activinties of women in the church would be great as well. Women priests are not a bad thing. I would also like to see a sexual assault protocol, that includes defrocking ALL clergy who are found guilty of such offenses. No more child molesting cardinals celebrating mass and selecting a new pope.
Point of clarification, I believe that you are refering to Bernard Law former Archbishop of Boston, who tried to cover up the sex abuse scandal and moved offending priest around instead of dealing with the situation in an honest forthright and compassionate manner. To the best of my knowledge there are no allegations of abuse or sexual misconduct by Cardinal Law. That being said the optics of this man having a front and central role was a poor reflection on the church in my opinion.
That is the one. The reason I call him a child molester is because he enabled many children to be molested by not defrocking errant priests. That is unforgivable in my book.
Madferret
4-19-05, 7:36 PM
LINK (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050419/en_afp/vaticanpopegermany)
Interesting...
LINK (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050419/en_afp/vaticanpopegermany)
Interesting...
Thanks for the link... great read! :thumb:
Madferret
4-19-05, 9:06 PM
Thanks for the link... great read! :thumb:
I'm reminded of the Clinton "I Didn't inhale" fiasco (Flap Ensues)...
I'm reminded of the Clinton "I Didn't inhale" fiasco (Flap Ensues)...
I can only imagine the pressures back in Germany in those days. There were no ifs or buts about it, you had to walk the walk and talk the talk... kind of like Iraq under Hussein. People didn't chose to be born under such dictatorship and I tip my hat to those who take control of their lives when given the chance. ;)
I can only imagine the pressures back in Germany in those days. There were no ifs or buts about it, you had to walk the walk and talk the talk... kind of like Iraq under Hussein. People didn't chose to be born under such dictatorship and I tip my hat to those who take control of their lives when given the chance. ;)
The way out of it was to go and work on a farm, like a friend's father did. He was supposed to have registered for something but didn't. He was caught just before the war ended and was sent to the front for threatening a German soldier with a pitchfork. He was only at the front for 4 days then the war ended.
Little to do with the pope but one of my favourite stories of all time.
We shall see if he lives up to the reputation of being the Vatican Rotwieller. I know some of the Romans in high places that I know, are a little nervous about him.
butterfly_style
4-20-05, 9:05 AM
(Flap Ensues)...
God no . . .not another ensuing flap!
TimmyTabasco
4-20-05, 2:19 PM
I was reading the paper this morning, and it mentioned that a Canadian cardinal was very close to becoming pope.
Many papers in Italy had him penicilled in to be the surprise in the race for pope, and his odds got much, much better.
The reasoning why is his age, he is 60 yrs old. They figured if they didn't name the current pope..due to his age..they would name the Canadian cardinal.
But the Canadian cardinal has not been a cardinal for more than 18 months..so this wasn't in his favour. When the current pope passes on, he will stand a very good chance.
Although I am quite liberal I would like to see a pope that would change the marriage issue for priests. It is one thing to say that an unmarried priest can devote his whole time to the church, but a married priest can bring more understanding of family life. I would also like to see a pope that agrees with the use of condoms in order to help the AIDS situation in Africa. Last but not least I would love to see a pope that acknowledges the fact that women can in fact becaome priests. I would love to see these things happen within my own lifetime.
Max Power
4-20-05, 3:09 PM
Although I am quite liberal I would like to see a pope that would change the marriage issue for priests. It is one thing to say that an unmarried priest can devote his whole time to the church, but a married priest can bring more understanding of family life. I would also like to see a pope that agrees with the use of condoms in order to help the AIDS situation in Africa. Last but not least I would love to see a pope that acknowledges the fact that women can in fact becaome priests. I would love to see these things happen within my own lifetime.
You woman have gotten enough rights in the last 50 years let's not go overboard now =]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/surreal48/housewife.jpg
I am so tempted to sound the alarm for that one. bad bad Max.
That is truly DISGUSTING!!!! :curse: :curse: :curse:
Max Power
4-20-05, 4:16 PM
I am so tempted to sound the alarm for that one. bad bad Max.
That is truly DISGUSTING!!!! :curse: :curse: :curse:
Ahh you know I'm joking.... The sad thing is that article is real. It's an actual publication from 1955
Ahh you know I'm joking.... The sad thing is that article is real. It's an actual publication from 1955
I know you are joking and the disgusting part is that it is real and some people are still stuck in those days.
Here is the updated version!!!!!!!
The Good Wife's Guide
Rewritten in the Millennium Century year of 2005
by Yvonne M. Prince
? Have dinner ready. Be sure he has good, easy to follow directions to the quality restaurants that deliver curbside. This way when he arrives home he'll have exactly what he wants for dinner and it will be ready when he arrives and you get fed too. You can be a dear and call in the order. We know how he doesn't like to do that.
? Prepare yourself?a good cocktail will work.
? Be a little gay (we now know this means happy) The cocktail will relax you and you'll appear to be happy when he arrives
? Clear away clutter today this means turn the computer off and the tv on and kick stuff out of the way to make a straight path to the tv. That's all he'll notice.
? Gather up schoolbooks?dust over the tables. Clearing the table off is a nice touch for that special meal he's bringing home. Put everything on the chair you don't use or in the clothes dryer (be sure to empty onto the top of the dryer when you decide to use it).
? Over the cooler months?. turn the heat up a little and give him brandy in his coffee?after you've made yours. It's nice to share.
? Prepare the children. At least try to know where they are. Someone has to take out tonight's dinner containers. Minimise all noise?let them eat in their rooms.
? Be happy to see him.. This may take several cocktails.
? Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him?.more cocktails.
? Listen to him. This should be getting easy now after several cocktails.
? Make the evening his. ?never complain if he comes home late?try to understand his world of strain..blah blah blah It's already his; he's coming home with a great dinner and if he's late make sure he knows how to use the microwave to reheat; if he really comes home late and without dinner have your dinner delivered and eat without him (just be sure he pays for your dinner when he does get home). No need to try to understand his world of strain, you were out there all day too.
? Your goal: peace, order and tranquility?. Wouldn't we all like that? Keep the kids in their rooms, hire a cleaning service and those cocktails are making everything tranquil. If you meet these for yourself then he will be able to renew himself in body and soul too. If it works for you, it'll work for him.
? Don't greet him with complaints and problems. Now that you have eliminated your need to talk to him then peace and tranquility are still working. Just email him your complaints and problems and he can deal with them at work tomorrow.
? Don't complain if he's late for dinner (we've already gone over this) or even stays out all night. Hell, no, this is not "minor". If you come home then he'd better come home. If you have to deal with the kids and everything at home then he does too. If he continues staying out all night then just smile (keep him off guard) and let your lawyer take care of him! (This is 2005 ladies)
? Make him comfortable. Be sure to let him know where the remotes are. It may not work but you can tell the kids, dogs and cats that they are in his favorite chair (you tried) as you settle into your chair.
? Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice. As the cocktails really kick in; toss his pillow to him, tell him to be sure he takes his shoes off at the door and your voice is already low, soothing and pleasant (alcohol can do that).
? Don't ask him questions about his actions?blah, blah, blah. Remember he is the master of the house ?.You have no right to question him..more blah, blah. Welcome to the Millennium. You do not need to ask anything; that's what GPS, micro transmitters and hidden cams are for away from home. As for master of the house; how can you forget as he reminds you constantly. Smile sweetly and say "Yes dear" then go about your business.
? A good wife always knows her place. And, she will be the one to decide where that is. This is no missionary position society we are in anymore.
The opinions of this writer?are shared by millions?I'm sure!!
slapshot™
4-20-05, 11:54 PM
I know you are joking and the disgusting part is that it is real and some people are still stuck in those days.
Here is the updated version!!!!!!!
>SNIP<
Hilarious!!!! :rollover2
I miss the good ol' days.... :cry: ;)
KB in Kelowna
4-21-05, 1:38 PM
My wife has gone back to work at the hospital and this means 12 hour shifts, last night my son and I enjoyed warmed over left overs. Some how I think I will be relearning my long dormant cooking skills. Either that or a lot of take out. Sorry for going off topic.
TimmyTabasco
4-22-05, 10:57 AM
My wife has gone back to work at the hospital and this means 12 hour shifts, last night my son and I enjoyed warmed over left overs. Some how I think I will be relearning my long dormant cooking skills. Either that or a lot of take out. Sorry for going off topic.
Two words..
Tim Hortons :thumb: :coffee:
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