View Full Version : Cooke seems ready to sit out
TimmyTabasco
9-07-05, 5:34 PM
Elliott Pap
Vancouver Sun
Wednesday, September 07, 2005
NUTHIN' COOKING: Canuck winger Matt Cooke intends to stick to his guns in his contract talks with the team and seems prepared to sit out if his agent Pat Morris and Vancouver GM Dave Nonis can't cut a deal.
It's believed Cooke is seeking somewhere between $1.25 million and $1.5 million on a two-year pact
"I'm not going to get into any numbers publically,' Cooke said Tuesday. "It's not a public battle. It's a battle between Pat and Dave and myself. I believe in what I believe. This is what I've set myself up to do and I'm willing to be patient if that's what I need to do. I just want fair market value, that's all I want."
Cooke is the only unsigned regular heading into next week's main camp that opens Monday.
According to Nonis, the Canucks have made Cooke three proposals -- for one-, two- and three-year deals -- and all have been rejected. He said the lowest offer was for "Sedin numbers"-- $1.25 million on a one-year contract.
"We like Matt Cooke, we want to have him signed and he's a very good person but, with that said, there are numbers that make sense," Nonis stated. "We have made him three strong offers. The first time Pat came below $2 million on a three-year deal was this last weekend. I don't know where we go from here."
Source (http://www.canada.com/sports/hockey/canucksstory.html?id=a82a8f77-784b-4074-b161-6d2f6240508d)
KB in Kelowna
9-07-05, 6:25 PM
Source (http://www.canada.com/vancouver/van...61-6d2f6240508d)
whenever a person starts to read and believe their own press clippings, bad things follow. Matt Cooke is a good gritty pesky role player, who can contribute offensively on occasion, He is not a top 6 forward and in the slary cap NHL should not command between $1.5 and 2 million dollars. I know niether should Trevor Linden, but the rules didn't allow for a buy out and Nonis acted on loyalty
Newfie John
9-07-05, 10:02 PM
I would lose a TON of respect for this guy if he sat out.
TSN (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=136987) says
Report: Cooke close to deal with Canucks
TSN.ca Staff
9/20/2005 12:27:10 PM
Matt Cooke appears to be returning to the Canucks.
According the Mojo 730 radio in Vancouver, the team is on the verge of signing Cooke to a three-year contract.
Cooke, who is a restricted free agent has not been at Canucks camp this season.
The 27-year old had 11 goals and 12 assists in 53 games with the Canucks in 2003-04.Is Mojo any better at rumours than Team 1040?
I'll believe it when I see the press conference announcing that Cooke is signed.
charlio lemieux
9-20-05, 4:48 PM
I've heard the same from TSN and the Score.
TimmyTabasco
9-20-05, 5:35 PM
Matt Cooke appears to be returning to the Canucks.
According the Mojo 730 radio in Vancouver, the team has re-signed the winger to a three-year $4.6 million contract.
Cooke, who is a restricted free agent has not been at Canucks camp this season.
The 27-year old had 11 goals and 12 assists in 53 games with the Canucks in 2003-04.
Source (http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=136987)
Sign and trade?
Sign and trade?
No way!!! At $1.5 mil a yr you don't trade him.Thats a good deal for the Canucks getting a potential 20-25 goal man who plays the game hard so you keep him.
Cheers
Bob burns
9-20-05, 6:35 PM
That seems like a large sum for a player who seems to be able to break out but has yet to do it. To be honest, he had quite the awful season last year (mind you he was paired with Keane or Chubarov or May quite a bit) until he was promoted to the first line. He also didn't fight much, and when he did he lost (cough Moore). My mind keeps changing on this Cooke matter but I think they should have signed him for $1 mil a year and see how he does this season before offerring him what he just got.
TimmyTabasco
9-20-05, 7:07 PM
That seems like a large sum for a player who seems to be able to break out but has yet to do it. To be honest, he had quite the awful season last year (mind you he was paired with Keane or Chubarov or May quite a bit) until he was promoted to the first line. He also didn't fight much, and when he did he lost (cough Moore). My mind keeps changing on this Cooke matter but I think they should have signed him for $1 mil a year and see how he does this season before offerring him what he just got.
Agreed Mr. Burns
To be honest, I'm a little pissed off with "Cooker". This signing is not such a good thing under the cap.
The Canucks now can't add a solid top 4 defender. Without that solid top 4 defender..the Canucks will have a hard time down the stretch. I could even go as far to say they will struggle in the playoffs.
But, I haven't seen Allen play yet..and ofcourse this is pre-season. Why didn't he sign for less, for the team?
If Cooke does not produce this season, as now expected, ship him out.
KB in Kelowna
9-20-05, 7:28 PM
Source (http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=136987)
Sign and trade?
way too much money for Cooke under the cap. Sign and trade, who is going to take him?
Bob burns
9-20-05, 7:29 PM
Agreed Mr. Burns
To be honest, I'm a little pissed off with "Cooker". This signing is not such a good thing under the cap.
The Canucks now can't add a solid top 4 defender. Without that solid top 4 defender..the Canucks will have a hard time down the stretch. I could even go as far to say they will struggle in the playoffs.
But, I haven't seen Allen play yet..and ofcourse this is pre-season. Why didn't he sign for less, for the team?
If Cooke does not produce this season, as now expected, ship him out.
Yeah, Cooke will have a lot of pressure this year to produce. If he puts up over 50 points, then he proved us all wrong, but if he doesn't, I can see a lot of Canuck fans calling for either his or Nonis' head (especially if the Canucks don't win the cup - not bloody likely). :boogie:
Very fair deal. Around what Fisher makes and the two are very similar IMO. Of course, I liked the Fisher deal aswell. I would argue that Mike has much more untapped offensive potential than people give him credit for which he's never been given a real chance to showcase due to injuries, but this is fair market value for Cooke.
Having said that, this was a tad greedy. He's cut into the cap space need for that Vancouver blueline.
It isn't 1.5 over 3 years neccesarily. He could make 1 million this year, 1.5 next and then 2 the final year and by that time he could have been traded. And who is to say we won't trade him right now. We've seen a sign and trade with Hossa (who I think 90% of people thought untouchable)
charlio lemieux
9-21-05, 8:24 AM
So he makes more than the Sedins? I hope he can deliver.
THE HACK
9-21-05, 12:59 PM
Having said that, this was a tad greedy. He's cut into the cap space need for that Vancouver blueline.
It may be greedy but thats what happens when you lowball a player,esp one like Matt Cooke who's given it his all on every shift.This guy was producing but was making less than Ryan Kesler who's done nothing so far in his career,like how fair is that!If any of us was in Cookes situation we'd probably do the same thing too!This same thing happened with Peter Schaffer but things got so bad between him and the Canucks that he now plays for your team.But its now over and time to move on so lets see what Cooke does this year.
Cheers
TimmyTabasco
9-21-05, 1:04 PM
It may be greedy but thats what happens when you lowball a player,esp one like Matt Cooke who's given it his all on every shift.This guy was producing but was making less than Ryan Kesler who's done nothing so far in his career,like how fair is that!If any of us was in Cookes situation we'd probably do the same thing too!This same thing happened with Peter Schaffer but things got so bad between him and the Canucks that he now plays for your team.But its now over and time to move on so lets see what Cooke does this year.
Cheers
Cooke was never lowballed
He was paid an agitators salary
This season Nonis acknowledged the fact he needed a raise, and offered 1.25 million
Cooke should have signed there and then. A very fair raise.
Greed, key word.
I'd be a bit leary about signing Cooke for that much money, but you never know. IMO, he shouldn't be making more than the Sedins at this point. Not sure if that's worth his career high of 42 points. Then again, he's making the same amount as Sergei Brylin, so I probably shouldn't talk.:laughing:
Cooke was never lowballed
He was paid an agitators salary
This season Nonis acknowledged the fact he needed a raise, and offered 1.25 million
Cooke should have signed there and then. A very fair raise.
Greed, key word.
Timmy,I think Cooke was just recuperating lost wages! ;)
Most of my Canuck buddies also seem to think Cooke just got overpaid but I still maintain its a fair deal.
Cheers
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