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Madferret
8-04-05, 9:49 PM
Thornton Moving across the border?
Much has been made about the Joe Thornton situation. Is he leaving? Is he staying? Sources out of both organizations have confirmed that talks between both teams have heated up in the last day.
Boston is hesitant about trading Thornton to a division rival, however Ottawa is currently offering the best package. It is rumored to involve Martin Havlat, #9 overall pick Brian Lee and a top draft pick.
Ottawa has asked permission to discuss a contract extension with Thornton. These are the most serious discussions Boston has had involving their captain.
Source (http://www.nhlspot.blogspot.com/)
Craziest rumour I heard all day, Belfour to Chicago, Daze to Boston and Thorton to Toronto
:laughing: ESPN Radio Chicago 1000am :laughing:
Well, there has been buzz around town that the Sens were going to hold a press conference soon about a move that may shock some, but make the team better. Where there's smoke there's usually fire - but big Joe with our cap situation? I just don't know. Look for Smolinski to be dealt for anything any club is willing to offer if Thornton comes to Ottawa.
Thornton > Havlat + Lee. It hurts to lose a top pick but we've never not had a first rounder. Missing on whole first round won't kill our future and we always seem to be able to find at least on gem in the rough per year. And that top pick may not be a 1st rounder anyway. By the sound of things Boston isn't happy with any offers, including Ottawa's, so maybe we're only giving 'em a 2nd round selection? Anyway, I'd take that deal. We're a young team at the NHL level as is, have some solid prospects, and can take a hit like that for the future for such a great short-term gain. And Thornton still has many good years left. Plus we get that power-forward. Not a LW'er but with a guy like Joe you can hardly complain. A bird in the hand.......
*I bet this doesn't happen. And if it does, certainly not directly. Boston will only trade him to the North East if nothing else is available. And you think we want Marty facing us 8x a season? Maybe a three-way-deal. Again, the odds of this seem pretty slim. I wouldn't write it off, but pretty slim.
Thornton is Ottawa is plain scary, but if that's all that's being offered...
Hemsky + First Rounder + Cogliano ?
Losing Hemsky hurts, but that's a more solid offer than what Ottawa is throwing around, and we're not a division rival.
Not really. IMO
Havlat > Hemseky
Lee > Cogliano
OTT pick < EDM pick.
Edit - Our answer to Forsberg?
Not really. IMO
Havlat > Hemseky
Lee > Cogliano
OTT pick > EDM pick.
Edit - Our answer to Forsberg?
Havlat>Hemsky is extremely debatable, espeacilly being Hemsky just beat out Havlat to get onto the Czech roster at the World Champs.
OTT pick > EDM Pick?
So I guess we're a better team then that will be finishing higher in the standings? :D
OTT pick > EDM Pick?
Opps. :o
Yes, I assume EDM will be picking higher. I'll just go and edit that.....
As for Havlat, he stunk it up in Europe that's for sure but you have to give him the edge based on NHL production. He also has a higher ceiling IMO.
Opps. :o
Yes, I assume EDM will be picking higher. I'll just go and edit that.....
As for Havlat, he stunk it up in Europe that's for sure but you have to give him the edge based on NHL production. He also has a higher ceiling IMO.
Actually, the reason that Hemsky was taken over Havlat was that the Czech team felt he could contribute positively on any line, and they weren't sure that Havlat could. The fact that Hemsky already has a more complete game I find very interesting. As for their ceiling.. they both have the ability to be top 10 in the NHL in points, and from what I've seen of either Havlat is more of a natural scorer, but Hemsky has much better vision.
Personally, I take Hemsky because I'm a homer, but I see it as extremely close, espeacilly when the gold medal winning team says they want Hemsky, not Havlat :thumb:
You also need to remember.. we're not division rivals, which scores major points!
Max Power
8-05-05, 8:19 AM
Although this is just a rumor like Lapoint was but if some truth exists I hope Muckler doesn?t sell the farm for him. Sens have potential to be competitive for some time but Thorton would only be a temporary solution because no way we can afford all theses top players for more then a few years.
bluemeanie
8-05-05, 8:34 AM
Although this is just a rumor like Lapoint was but if some truth exists I hope Muckler doesn?t sell the farm for him. Sens have potential to be competitive for some time but Thorton would only be a temporary solution because no way we can afford all theses top players for more then a few years.
Thorton would be long term too. I don't know, Max... he's the kind of guy you build a franchise around. I think Muck's would be in a good position to keep the core team together with Thorton there. With a team like that, that will be a threat for years to come, guys will sign pretty much anything to stay a part of it. Good luck. * fingers crossed* =]
Max Power
8-05-05, 8:43 AM
Thorton would be long term too. I don't know, Max... he's the kind of guy you build a franchise around. I think Muck's would be in a good position to keep the core team together with Thorton there. With a team like that, that will be a threat for years to come, guys will sign pretty much anything to stay a part of it. Good luck. * fingers crossed* =]
True but the only thing that causes a problem is all the players that will want a 5m + salary
Hossa
Alfredson
Spezza (in a year or two if he works out)
Chara
Redden
Thorton
Plus a few others that will want at least 4
We'd definitely lose some depth and at the same time if we trade away our prospects it will just hurt us in the long run
But I guess either way will be in this position
bluemeanie
8-05-05, 8:46 AM
But I guess either way will be in this position
Well, exactly. So you eventually say 'see-ya' to Alfie, big deal. You have a lot of trade potential on that team, don't forget.
Max Power
8-05-05, 8:51 AM
Well, exactly. So you eventually say 'see-ya' to Alfie, big deal. You have a lot of trade potential on that team, don't forget.
He would look great in a leaf jersey
http://live82.ihwc.net/image/large/2418.jpg
=]
bluemeanie
8-05-05, 9:18 AM
He would look great in a leaf jersey=]
I don't think that the Leafs equipment staff stock the right sized skates.
http://www.amazinwalter.com/clown/2001clowngraphics/shoe.jpg
Newfie John
8-05-05, 9:40 AM
Ferret, your source is a blog.. Like Man U said yesterday, the Bruins would be stupid to trade Thornton within their division.
True but the only thing that causes a problem is all the players that will want a 5m + salary
Hossa
Alfredson
Spezza (in a year or two if he works out)
Chara
Redden
Thorton
Plus a few others that will want at least 4
We'd definitely lose some depth and at the same time if we trade away our prospects it will just hurt us in the long run
But I guess either way will be in this position
Ottawa has definitely been blessed in recent seasons with a lot of talent for a small price. Unfortuntately for them, I think they may be one of a few teams really hurt by the new free agency restrictions, or rather lack thereof.
You're right Max - those guys can all fetch top coin. Less than 2 years from today, every player in the NHL with 7 or more years in the league is eligible to become a UFA, just as long as they are not under contract in the summer of 2007. That covers everyone you just mentioned except for Spezza, and they are very well aware of this situation, I'm sure. I think the sens will be hard pressed to keep their core together. I don't know what any of those players contract situations are currently, but if any of them are unwilling to sign long term now or next year, whenever... it's because they have their eyes on unrestricted free agency.
Never the less I have always been envious of Ottawa for being able to put some very good teams together for a reasonable payroll.
Havlat>Hemsky is extremely debatable
No it isn't debatable. Ottawa had three players in '03-'04 who scored at a point-per-game pace or better. Havlat is one of them. I watch Edmonton play often. Hemsky obviously has great potential. But potential means $#!+. Alex Daigle had great potential too. Show me the money Ales.
Max Power
8-05-05, 10:02 AM
August 5, 2005
B's hope to sign Thornton, Samsonov long-term
TheFourthPeriod.com
After signing such free agents as Alexei Zhamnov and Brian Leetch, and bringing back Glen Murray, Bruins GM Mike O'Connell has sent out loud and clear messages to the team's key restricted free agent, reports the Boston Herald.
Joe Thornton and Sergei Samsonov were quick to reject long-term contract extensions last week, but the Herald claims the Bruins will up those offers.
"When we presented those offers 10 days ago to Joe and Sergei, we had no idea what free agency would bring to players," O'Connell told the Herald. "I never dreamed there'd be so many $4 million players, I just didn't expect that. I don't think anyone could have forecast that's the way the market would go.
"In making those offers to Joe and Sergei at that time, it was a shot at what we thought the market might be. We weren't far off, but the market has changed and we're prepared to address that."
The Herald believes Thorton will command near $6.5 million a season, while Samsonov could receive close to $3.5 million annually.
No it isn't debatable. Ottawa had three players in '03-'04 who scored at a point-per-game pace or better. Havlat is one of them. I watch Edmonton play often. Hemsky obviously has great potential. But potential means $#!+. Alex Daigle had great potential too. Show me the money Ales.
So why was Havlat kicked off the Czech team so that Hemsky could play?
Madferret
8-05-05, 10:13 AM
Ferret, your source is a blog.. Like Man U said yesterday, the Bruins would be stupid to trade Thornton within their division.
As would the Wings to trade for a guy about to skip to Russia to play for more money. It's a 'rumour' John, take it for what it's worth.
Madferret
8-05-05, 10:15 AM
So why was Havlat kicked off the Czech team so that Hemsky could play?
PDO I'm not going to debate who is the better player but do you really think the Oil could fit Thornton into their plans after signing Pronger to a long-term deal and nabbing Peca?
So why was Havlat kicked off the Czech team so that Hemsky could play?
I have no idea. But their NHL numbers are what is important. And until he produces in the NHL, Alice Hemsky is still a wannabe. :]
Max Power
8-05-05, 11:06 AM
I'm curious on that Czech team decision too? Havlat still managed to pull off a point a game last season in Rus and Sparta but struggled in 5 playoff games. Still Havlat being a few years older and has had WAY more success then Hemsky in the NHL so there is no comparison
I?m sure Man U has all the juicy gossip on that? Where are you Man U? =]
Newfie John
8-05-05, 11:20 AM
As would the Wings to trade for a guy about to skip to Russia to play for more money. It's a 'rumour' John, take it for what it's worth.
What are you talking about?
Newfie John
8-05-05, 11:21 AM
I have no idea. But their NHL numbers are what is important. And until he produces in the NHL, Alice Hemsky is still a wannabe. :]
I hate Havlat's guts, but I'm not so blind to realize that he's a better player, and has more value then Ales Hemsky. PDO, it isn't even close.
So why was Havlat kicked off the Czech team so that Hemsky could play?
Because he sucked during his time in Europe (towards the end of it anyway. He went on a tear at first and then scored no point for a good while) and since Hemseky is also a good player, it wasn't worth the risk that Havlat would suddenly break out of his slump. Not when you have a very servicable player in Hemsky playing some very good hockey at the time.
But in regards to who's better; until Hemsky scores 15+ goals at the NHL level I don't really think you can make a case that it's all that close. You can argue Hemseky has onyl had 2 years NHL experience, but at that time Marty already had two 20 goal seasons and had posted 40+, and 50+ point seasons respectively. Sure, Ales is more a playmaker than a scorer, while Havlat is the opposite. But for all Hemsky's great playmakng skills his career high his is 24 while Havat's career low (this was in his rookie season to boot) is 23 - his carer high is 37. The fact Havat has already posted a PPG with his best days still ahead of him is very intriguing. With a good playmaking cetner at his side, I think Havlat definatly has a shot at the 100 point plateau in a career year. I can't say the same about Hemsky, and even if he does project to be a more complete player down the road (which I would strongly object to him begin as of now FTR) the offense difference cannot be ignored. And he can't get under the opponants skin like Mach 9 Marty can.
As would the Wings to trade for a guy about to skip to Russia to play for more money. It's a 'rumour' John, take it for what it's worth.
Minimal at best, if nothing more than a pipe dream.
Have to love how a thread about Thornton became a Hemsky versus Havlat argument :laughing:
Anyway, I think the fact that there was no NHL last season really hurts Hemsky in the way that anything I say about how dominant he was in europe will simply be brushed off as "only Europe". The guy has shown he has the talent to be a top 10 scorer in the NHL. He was arguably the teams MVP down the stretch as a rookie in 02-03, posting a PPG and continually setting Smyth up for empty netters. He had a sohpomore slump; a very common occurance, but when you see the raw talent that Hemsky possesses, it's hard to think he'll mess it up. He WAS taken on the Czech team for the reason that "we felt Hemsky could play on any line, while we felt that Havlat could only contribute in a scoring roll." That was said by several Czechs. I'm not making that up, but if the Ales Hemsky I know has a more complete game than you, you've got some holes in your game that need to be fixed.
Don't forget guys, the Sens are my third favourite team, and I'd love to see them do well, but Hemsky and Havlat have very close ceiling's (I'd go as far to argue Hemsky's is higher, but that's a whole different can of worms I'd rather not open) and obviously hockey people agree with me, otherwise Hemsky wouldn't of played on the Czech team.
Hemsky career year = 30 G 70 A. Guarnetee a Schremp - Hemsky combo would be one of the most feared in the league, if Schremp pans out. Ironically enough, I see Hemsky as the center and Schremp as the RW in that scenario.
Minimal at best, if nothing more than a pipe dream.
Have to love how a thread about Thornton became a Hemsky versus Havlat argument :laughing:
Anyway, I think the fact that there was no NHL last season really hurts Hemsky in the way that anything I say about how dominant he was in europe will simply be brushed off as "only Europe". The guy has shown he has the talent to be a top 10 scorer in the NHL. He was arguably the teams MVP down the stretch as a rookie in 02-03, posting a PPG and continually setting Smyth up for empty netters. He had a sohpomore slump; a very common occurance, but when you see the raw talent that Hemsky possesses, it's hard to think he'll mess it up. He WAS taken on the Czech team for the reason that "we felt Hemsky could play on any line, while we felt that Havlat could only contribute in a scoring roll." That was said by several Czechs. I'm not making that up, but if the Ales Hemsky I know has a more complete game than you, you've got some holes in your game that need to be fixed.
Don't forget guys, the Sens are my third favourite team, and I'd love to see them do well, but Hemsky and Havlat have very close ceiling's (I'd go as far to argue Hemsky's is higher, but that's a whole different can of worms I'd rather not open) and obviously hockey people agree with me, otherwise Hemsky wouldn't of played on the Czech team.
Hemsky career year = 30 G 70 A. Guarnetee a Schremp - Hemsky combo would be one of the most feared in the league, if Schremp pans out. Ironically enough, I see Hemsky as the center and Schremp as the RW in that scenario.
Well let's wait and see. I am (not) sure you are right. Let's list the '03-'04 Point Per Game players on the Canadian teams.
Naslund,
Hossa,
Alfredsson,
Havlat.
Did I miss anyone? I don't think so. Even Iginla is not there. It is a stretch to assume Hemsky is a lock to join this list. But he's got plenty of time to try.
Well let's wait and see. I am (not) sure you are right. Let's list the '03-'04 Point Per Game players on the Canadian teams.
Naslund,
Hossa,
Alfredsson,
Havlat.
Did I miss anyone? I don't think so. Even Iginla is not there. It is a stretch to assume Hemsky is a lock to join this list. But he's got plenty of time to try.
Definetly a stretch, but it's possible.
I believe Iginila and Sundin were very close to making that list as well, and Kovalev wasn't too far off IIRC.
I agree about waiting and seeing, but remember.. Hemsky was a big reason why Marchant got 60 points and that big fat contract in Columbus ;].
Don't forget guys, the Sens are my third favourite team, and I'd love to see them do well, but Hemsky and Havlat have very close ceiling's (I'd go as far to argue Hemsky's is higher, but that's a whole different can of worms I'd rather not open) and obviously hockey people agree with me, otherwise Hemsky wouldn't of played on the Czech team.
You're joking right? Many players don't get picked for their National teams, in spite of being the consensis choice of being better. Example; Draper made team Canada. There were better centers available. But not for to role Canada was going to ask him to play. Really, I see it comes down to this. Hemsky was on a hot streak and Havlat in the biggest slump of his career. Why wouldn't you take Hemsky for such a short tourney? If they needed to pick a player for more than a handful of games, say 82, rest assured it would have been Martin Havlat.
Similar ceilings? I'll put it quite bluntly. I don't ever see Hemsky being one of the top 10/15 players in the league. Havlat however I can see if he continues to develop at this exponential rate. If we see a Havlat - Spezza - Alfredsson line (very possible) I expect at least 85 points points outta the Mach 9.
Hemsky career year = 30 G 70 A. Guarnetee a Schremp - Hemsky combo would be one of the most feared in the league, if Schremp pans out. Ironically enough, I see Hemsky as the center and Schremp as the RW in that scenario.
That'd be quite the tandem. But it wouldn't be quite as feared as Spezza - Havlat or Spezza - Hossa. Hey, how about Havlat- Spezza - Hossa. :eyebug:
Definetly a stretch, but it's possible.
I believe Iginila and Sundin were very close to making that list as well, and Kovalev wasn't too far off IIRC.
I agree about waiting and seeing, but remember.. Hemsky was a big reason why Marchant got 60 points and that big fat contract in Columbus ;].
Sundin was likely close as he always seems to fall in the 70-80 point range. Let's say 75 for average's sake.
Kovalev I know however wasn't even close. He didn't even break 50 points despite playing a full season. And oh, how the Montreal media was on his case for only getting 3 points in 12 games for the Habs.
Newfie John
8-05-05, 3:38 PM
Sundin was likely close as he always seems to fall in the 70-80 point range. Let's say 75 for average's sake.
Dead on the money. He had 75 points in 81 games last season. Sundin is a career Point-per-game player.
Kovalev I know however wasn't even close. He didn't even break 50 points despite playing a full season. And oh, how the Montreal media was on his case for only getting 3 points in 12 games for the Habs.
To be fair, he was awesome in the playoffs. But, I know that doesn't factor into this debate..
To be fair, he was awesome in the playoffs. But, I know that doesn't factor into this debate..
Isn't this 'debate' about Joe T?
Newfie John
8-05-05, 3:53 PM
Isn't this 'debate' about Joe T?
Thats where it started..
Anyway, I just read this piece of garbage rumor about Thornton to T.O.
To Leafs- Thornton
To Bruins - Steen, Stajan and 2 first rounders...
:rolleyes:
Thats where it started..
Anyway, I just read this piece of garbage rumor about Thornton to T.O.
To Leafs- Thornton
To Bruins - Steen, Stajan and 2 first rounders...
:rolleyes: You know you want it. :laughing:
leaferfan87
8-05-05, 7:01 PM
Thats where it started..
Anyway, I just read this piece of garbage rumor about Thornton to T.O.
To Leafs- Thornton
To Bruins - Steen, Stajan and 2 first rounders...
:rolleyes:
No idiot in their right mind would make that deal...maybe Rob Babcock.
As much as I'd like to see Thorton playing for the Leafs, I DO NOT WANT to see ANY first round pics traded for a few years, let alone 2.
You're joking right? Many players don't get picked for their National teams, in spite of being the consensis choice of being better. Example; Draper made team Canada. There were better centers available. But not for to role Canada was going to ask him to play. Really, I see it comes down to this. Hemsky was on a hot streak and Havlat in the biggest slump of his career. Why wouldn't you take Hemsky for such a short tourney? If they needed to pick a player for more than a handful of games, say 82, rest assured it would have been Martin Havlat.
Similar ceilings? I'll put it quite bluntly. I don't ever see Hemsky being one of the top 10/15 players in the league. Havlat however I can see if he continues to develop at this exponential rate. If we see a Havlat - Spezza - Alfredsson line (very possible) I expect at least 85 points points outta the Mach 9.
That'd be quite the tandem. But it wouldn't be quite as feared as Spezza - Havlat or Spezza - Hossa. Hey, how about Havlat- Spezza - Hossa. :eyebug:
I demand you dont' throw the Spezza card out again.. making me jealous! ;)
Like I said, we'll have to wait and see, but feel free to call me out on this:
Hemsky stays healthy (75 + games) he will get atleast .85 PPG this season.
Hold me to it, I feel very confident saying that.
It's not that I'm down on Havlat, because I'm not.. I'm just extremely high on Hemsky. Call it Oiler bias if you want, but Hemsky and Torres are the only two young guys the Oilers have had that I've liked in some time. Winchester? Bishai? Anyone with eyes could tell they were nothing more than 3rd-4th liners.
I demand you dont' throw the Spezza card out again.. making me jealous! ;)
Like I said, we'll have to wait and see, but feel free to call me out on this:
Hemsky stays healthy (75 + games) he will get atleast .85 PPG this season.
Hold me to it, I feel very confident saying that.
It's not that I'm down on Havlat, because I'm not.. I'm just extremely high on Hemsky. Call it Oiler bias if you want, but Hemsky and Torres are the only two young guys the Oilers have had that I've liked in some time. Winchester? Bishai? Anyone with eyes could tell they were nothing more than 3rd-4th liners.
Yeah man. After Crosby, Spezza is the best up and coming center in the league as far as I'm concerned, ever so slightly ahead of Evgeni Malkin because the two seem to be carbon clones of each other from upside, to style, to build, only Spetzky is more proven.
As for your prediction for Hemsky, 64 - 70 points isn't totally out of the question. But I seriously doubt it. I can't see him doubling last season's production. But yes, he and Torres are very promising. As are Schremp, Pouliot, and to a less extent Cogliano. Much better than the previous group of young prospects as you stated earlier. I think Bishai was always projected to be more of a bottom-six guy if he made it. But Winchester was one of those second round potential powerforward types. Those guys almost never pan out and end up being grinders. The elite powreforwards are almost always identified quite early on and go in the first round of the draft. Needless to say, teams continue to take flyers on guys like Brad. And to be fair, you can see why. The potential pay-off is great.
Yeah man. After Crosby, Spezza is the best up and coming center in the league as far as I'm concerned, ever so slightly ahead of Evgeni Malkin because the two seem to be carbon clones of each other from upside, to style, to build, only Spetzky is more proven.
As for your prediction for Hemsky, 64 - 70 points isn't totally out of the question. But I seriously doubt it. I can't see him doubling last season's production. But yes, he and Torres are very promising. As are Schremp, Pouliot, and to a less extent Cogliano. Much better than the previous group of young prospects as you stated earlier. I think Bishai was always projected to be more of a bottom-six guy if he made it. But Winchester was one of those second round potential powerforward types. Those guys almost never pan out and end up being grinders. The elite powreforwards are almost always identified quite early on and go in the first round of the draft. Needless to say, teams continue to take flyers on guys like Brad. And to be fair, you can see why. The potential pay-off is great.
Spetzky.. :laughing: love it.
On Cogs, I think the best thing about him is that he could still grow. JR was drafted at 5'10", for example. If he sprouts to 6', he's suddenly a top 10 draft pick. He has a ton of character as well, from what I've read.
Anyway, feel free to call me out on Hemsky, because if Kevin Lowe is willing to lay out his neck for him, I know I am. Peca has stated he wants to score 30 now that he's back here. Smyth will score 30. Guess who will most likely be playing with the two? :)
TimmyTabasco
8-05-05, 10:07 PM
Peca has stated he wants to score 30 now that he's back here. Smyth will score 30. Guess who will most likely be playing with the two? :)
Free agent Palffy? :laughing:
Peca with 25 is more like it, 30 would be pushing his luck
30 for Smyth? Its possible, thats for sure..but again I'd say 25 :nod:
Spetzky.. :laughing: love it.
On Cogs, I think the best thing about him is that he could still grow. JR was drafted at 5'10", for example. If he sprouts to 6', he's suddenly a top 10 draft pick. He has a ton of character as well, from what I've read.
Anyway, feel free to call me out on Hemsky, because if Kevin Lowe is willing to lay out his neck for him, I know I am. Peca has stated he wants to score 30 now that he's back here. Smyth will score 30. Guess who will most likely be playing with the two? :)
I can't take credit for that nickname unfortunatly. He got it on draft day by some of the guys claiming he was "the next one". :)
I'm not so sure if Cogliano would've been be a top 10 pick with some more size, but just like any other player if Cogs were bigger there's no doubt he'd have been more intriguing to scouts and GMs alike earlier in the draft.
I guess we'll have to wait and see with Hemsky. But I'm vrey skeptical he can put up .85 PPG. At least this season. And Peca has never hit 30 goals his whole career so I doubt he does it now. Smyth possibly, but he hasn't done it since 2001-01 himself.
A top line of Smyth - Hemsky - Peca? I don't know if I'd want Mike as a RW'er, espcially when EDM could use a #1 center. If those three were paired together you'd think it'd be Peca in the middle and Hemsky as the winger. But whatever you Oilists think would be best.
I can't take credit for that nickname unfortunatly. He got it on draft day by some of the guys claiming he was "the next one". :)
I'm not so sure if Cogliano would've been be a top 10 pick with some more size, but just like any other player if Cogs were bigger there's no doubt he'd have been more intriguing to scouts and GMs alike earlier in the draft.
I guess we'll have to wait and see with Hemsky. But I'm vrey skeptical he can put up .85 PPG. At least this season. And Peca has never hit 30 goals his whole career so I doubt he does it now. Smyth possibly, but he hasn't done it since 2001-01 himself.
A top line of Smyth - Hemsky - Peca? I don't know if I'd want Mike as a RW'er, espcially when EDM could use a #1 center. If those three were paired together you'd think it'd be Peca in the middle and Hemsky as the winger. But whatever you Oilists think would be best.
Where'd you grab Hemsky down the middle from?
I think he'd be better suited to the middle (although not with that combination.. Smyth - Dvorak would be better suited as wingers), but as of now he's a RW
Smyth - Peca - Hemsky
Do you believe Langkow could score 30? The only difference between the two was PP time. Due to Yashin being on the island Peca got close to none, the same won't be said in Edmonton. If I had to amke some early preds on the PP in Edmonton...
Unit #1
Crease man - Smyth
Rover - Dvorak
Halfboards - Hemsky
Point - Pronger
Point - Stoll
Unit #2
Creaseman - Peca
Rover - Torres
Halfboards - Horcoff
Point - Bergeron
Point - Semenov
Obviously some guess work in there, but that's how I'd like to see it run.
I can't believe how off topic we've gone... :laughing:
Where'd you grab Hemsky down the middle from?
When you said
Peca has stated he wants to score 30 now that he's back here. Smyth will score 30. Guess who will most likely be playing with the two?
I thought you were implying Hemsky would be centering those guys.
When you said
I thought you were implying Hemsky would be centering those guys.
Ahhh.. no, sorry for the mis-understanding there Andy :)
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