Toronto Maple Leafs Opening Roster

[Amoroq]

Lunch Bucket A-Sundin-Lunch Bucket B
Poni- Steen- Antropov
Perrot - Stajan- Belak
O'niell-Garbage Pail A-Garbage Pail B


Mccabe-Klee
Kaberle-Colaiocovo
Pylon A-Berg(Pylon B)

Belfour
Tellqvist.

Yes Leaf fans this year we're bringing the Cup BACK where it belongs. insert tounge firmly planted in cheeck emoticon here ;)

[Rusty]

This my friend is totally not right, I am really getting fed up with our inaction.

Fergy for cryiong out loud sign somebody of importance or get the hell out of Dodge!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Amoroq]

By the end of the day there will be at least 2 players signed to contract to the Toronto Maple Leafs.

[Newfie John]

Why do you have O'niell on the 4th line? And not have Tucker there anywhere? You're making matters seem worse then they actually are.

[bluemeanie]

Well here's what's left leafers....

Updated list of unrestricted free agents:

Centers

Jason Allison, Los Angeles; Andrew Cassels, Columbus; Vincent Damphousse, San Jose; Jim Dowd, Montreal; Ron Francis, Toronto; Chris Gratton, Colorado; Travis Green, Boston; Brian Holzinger, Columbus; EricLindros, N.Y. Rangers; Dean McAmmond, Calgary; Mark Messier, N.Y. Rangers; Rem Murray, Nashville; Andrei Nikolishin, Colorado; Yanic Perreault, Montreal; Jozef Stumpel, Los Angeles; Pierre Turgeon, Dallas; Shaun Van Allen, Ottawa; Alexei Zhamnov, Philadelphia.

Right wings

Donald Audette, Florida; Peter Bondra, Ottawa; Valeri Bure, Dallas; Anson Carter, Los Angeles; Eric Chouinard, Minnesota; Adam Deadmarsh, Los Angeles; Rob DiMaio, Dallas; Tie Domi, Toronto; Dallas Drake, St. Louis; Jean-Luc Grand-Pierre, Washington; Alexander Mogilny, Toronto; Vladimir Orszagh, Nashville; Owen Nolan, Toronto; Ziggy Palffy, Los Angeles; Teemu Selanne, Colorado; Scott Young, Dallas.

Left wings

Dave Andreychuk, Tampa Bay; Bates Battaglia, Washington; Andrew Brunette, Minnesota; Jim Cummins, Colorado; Paul Kariya, Colorado; Martin Lapointe, Boston; x-John LeClair, Philadelphia; Brad May, Vancouver; Jim McKenzie, Nashville; Brian Savage, Phoenix; Steve Thomas, Detroit; x-Ray Whitney, Detroit; Rob Zamuner, Boston.

Defensemen

Murray Baron, St. Louis; x-Mathieu Biron, Florida; Brad Bombardir, Nashville; Chris Chelios; Detroit; Jeff Finley, St. Louis; Roman Hamrlik, N.Y. Islanders; Alexander Khavanov, St. Louis; Vladimir Malakhov, Philadelphia; Bryan Marchment, Toronto; Dan McGillis, Philadelphia; Boris Mironov, N.Y. Rangers; Scott Niedermayer, New Jersey; Teppo Numminen, Dallas; Lyle Odelein, Florida; James Patrick, Buffalo; Stephane Quintal, Los Angeles; Brian Rafalski, New Jersey; Jiri Slegr, Boston; Jaroslav Spacek, Columbus; Scott Stevens, New Jersey; Don Sweeney, Dallas; Igor Ulanov, Edmonton; Glen Wesley, Carolina; Jason Woolley, Detroit; Jason York, Nashville.

Goaltenders

Sean Burke, Philadelphia; Roman Cechmanek, Los Angeles; Byron Dafoe, Atlanta; Mike Dunham, N.Y. Rangers; Arturs Irbe, Columbus; Curtis Joseph, Detroit; Nikolai Khabibulin, Tampa Bay; Chris Osgood, St. Louis; Steve Shields, Florida; Ron Tugnutt, Dallas.

x-Indicates player was bought out and can't re-sign with previous club.

[Newfie John]

I think we have to sign both Lindros and Allison. They shouldn't cost much. Lets say its 2 million between them. Then we sign Kariya. That gives us 2 respectable lines. Lets say Kariya signs for 3 mil. Now, we need one more defencemen. I say that defencemen is Glen Wesley. For another 3 million. Thats it, no more spending. These are all one year deals by the way.

Here's the roster.

Kariya - Sundin - O'niell
Lindros - Allison - Tucker
Poni - Stajan - Antropov
Perrot - Ondrus - Belak

Mccabe - Klee
Kaberle - Wesley
Colaiocovo - Berg/Pilar

Belfour
Tellqvist.

[scorpionn]

Kariya - Sundin - O'niell
Lindros - Allison - Tucker
Poni - Stajan - Antropov
Perrot - Ondrus - Belak

Mccabe - Klee
Kaberle - Wesley
Colaiocovo - Berg/Pilar

Belfour
Tellqvist.

Actually a little realistic to some of the rosters you have made...

Although, I think Kariya and Selanne want to sign with a team for another "package" deal.

And replace Ondrus with Steen.

[Man.Utd]

Apparently Selanne is going to one of LA, San Jose, or Montreal. From Eklund take it with a grain of salt, but he's been good lately. If he lands in San Jose look for Kariya to follow as they have already expressed interest in Paul and would no doubt welcome back Teemu if the price is right.

Lindros & Leclair are apparently trying to do a Naslund/Forsberg and package themselves.

The only name I've heard that is possibly Toronto bound, and he'd look good in blue and white, is Brian Rafalski. That one is again from Eklund.

[bluemeanie]

Lindros & Leclair are apparently trying to do a Naslund/Forsberg and package themselves.

That doesn't surprise me, although I think that strategy doesn't hold the same viability that it once did.

The only name I've heard that is possibly Toronto bound, and he'd look good in blue and white, is Brian Rafalski. That one is again from Eklund.

Finally a defence man rumour, even it is just a rumour.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

And replace Ondrus with Steen.

I think JFJ would like Steen to have a year with the Marlies before he plays with the Leafs. Of course, he'll probably see time with the big club this year since he'd likely be our first injury callup. Ondrus could be a solid 4th liner in the NHL, so I have no problem with him in that spot.

[bluemeanie]

The only name I've heard that is possibly Toronto bound, and he'd look good in blue and white, is Brian Rafalski. That one is again from Eklund.

BREAKING NEWS: Defenseman Brian Rafalski has re-signed with the New Jersey Devils, TFP has learned. Details to follow...


*yawn*

[Amoroq]

Why do you have O'niell on the 4th line? And not have Tucker there anywhere? You're making matters seem worse then they actually are.Perhaps you missed the tounge firmly implanted in cheek emoticon? ;)

[bluemeanie]

Just got out of a meeting... Did I miss anything? Anyhow, it seems that I've let a few projects slide pass their respective time lines, seeing as though I'm all wrapped up in this "trading frenzy"... My inactivity, and any inactivity in the future, is now officially known around my office as a 'Fergy'.

[grim]

Just got out of a meeting... Did I miss anything? Anyhow, it seems that I've let a few projects slide pass their respective time lines, seeing as though I'm all wrapped up in this "trading frenzy"... My inactivity, and any inactivity in the future, is now officially known around my office as a 'Fergy'.

Ferguson
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Peddie
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bluemeanie
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Newfie Johan
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[bluemeanie]

lol.

The horror continues for bluemeanie...

WGR55: reports Jason Allison is currently in Buffalo for a physical and the Sabres could announce his signing soon.

[Man.Utd]

They said the exact same about him in Toronto. Wait and see how this play out. He got a pretty good offer (apparently) from Toronto which could see him cash in big on bonuses. I would expect that he'd take it.

[PDO]

This is what happens when you sign McCabe and Belfour to ridiculous contracts right before the lockout. Hate to say it, but I told you so!

[Newfie John]

This is what happens when you sign McCabe and Belfour to ridiculous contracts right before the lockout. Hate to say it, but I told you so!

Mccabes isn't so bad. 3.5 million for him isn't bad. Belfour on the other hand, it is a bad deal, but Belfour had all the leverage in the negotiations. If the leafs let him go, who else would they get?

[Man.Utd]

If the leafs let him go, who else would they get?

Khabibulin? :shrug:

McCabe at 3.5M isn't too bad. Not in hindsight seeing as most guys are going around 4M - 4.5M now. But seeing as Chara got 3.725M right around the same time a better deal probably could've been struck.

[Newfie John]

Khabibulin? :shrug:

McCabe at 3.5M isn't too bad. Not in hindsight seeing as most guys are going around 4M - 4.5M now. But seeing as Chara got 3.725M right around the same time a better deal probably could've been struck.

Khabibulin wants the league maximum, and IMO, he isn't NEARLY worth that. I'd rather Belfour at his price then the Bulin wall at 7 mil.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

Khabibulin? :shrug:

McCabe at 3.5M isn't too bad. Not in hindsight seeing as most guys are going around 4M - 4.5M now. But seeing as Chara got 3.725M right around the same time a better deal probably could've been struck.

McCabe would've taken the Leafs to arbitration and cleaned up though.

[Man.Utd]

A fair point. Speaking of Brian, from Eklund:

McCabe to the Capital?

Talks between Toronto and Washington about McCabe have gone beyond preliminary.

Toronto wants Klepis or Brooks Laich and a pick...

Two former Sens prospects, eh? Horrible deal for T.O. if true. I'd rather keep Bryan than trade him for a pick. Klepis = bust. Ottawa was wise to deal him when they did for a team need in Varada and Buffalo's 5th. Laich may make it but as a third liner at best.

I'd love to see Toronto become Ottawa's garbage can though. The Montreal landfill is getting full. We already dumped Bonk, Dackell, and Juneau there and it never hurts to have a drop-off just down the 401. :wicked:

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

That's a horrible return for McCabe. Unless Washington is on crack and decides to give us a 1st rounder (I think they'll still be in the lottery next year). I think the Leafs should be asking about a player with a higher ceiling, like Eminger or Semin.

[bluemeanie]

Here's a signing just for you Rusty...

Dr. Phil' gets 5-year extension

TV therapist Dr. Phil McGraw has signed a five-year extension deal to keep his program on through the 2013-2014 season, Reuters reports.

King World Productions had originally signed a deal for the "Dr Phil" show to run up until the 2008-2009 season.

McGraw got his break into television by appearing once a week on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."

He was awarded his own show in 2002 and is ranked second behind the talk show diva's syndicated endeavour.

The show averages 7 million viewers per day and is up 13 per cent in the ratings compared to its debut season.

The Texas-born McGraw has also written five No. 1 New York Times bestseller self-help books.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

As of this moment:

??? - Sundin($6,030,000) - O'Neill($1,500,000)
Antropov($1,000,000) - Allison($1,500,000) - Poni($450,000)
Tucker($1,596,000) - Stajan($805,600) - ???
Kilger($475,000) - Wilm(unsigned right now i think) - Domi($1,250,000)

McCabe($3,458,000) - Kaberle($2,280,000)
Klee($1,900,000) - Carlo (forget what his rookie salary was)
Berg($1,100,000) - Pilar($450,000)

Belfour($4,560,000)
Tellqvist($450,000)

Spare - Belak($798,000)

Send to the farm - Perrot($450,000)

Is the sky really falling guys? This lineup is pretty close to the one we had last anyways. O'Neill and Allison fill the holes of Roberts and Niewy, while the two blanks spots are where Mogilny and Nolan would be. Both players spent a good chunk of last season hurt or playing hurt though. So would filling the role of Mogilny with Lindros be that big of dropoff? Thanks to Quinn's line making Nolan spent most of his time in the lineup on the third line anyways, so we should be able to sign a third line forward later in free agency (maybe Carter?). Wilm and Kilger are there on the fourth line because they player pretty well along with Domi in the playoffs last year. I'd give them a shot to open the season, and see if they can play like that over the course of a season. On defense Carlo is really the only new edition. The other 5 guys were on this team pre-Leetch trade (a team already on it's way to the playoffs). Chances are we won't win a Stanley Cup, but the 05-06 Leafs won't be significantly worse than the team that was iced the last time we had hockey.

[The Insider]

Well, we're almost ready to ice a full squad. I would suspect that Lindros will be signing here in the next couple of days so that would really leave only one spot left to fill. I think our team isn't a bottom feeder, but we aren't exactly cup favorites either, we are going to be a playoff fringe team and more than likely finish 2nd or 3rd in our division. I have to believe that we have one big move on the horizon as we still need one more marquee guy to fill the lineup. And the only ones who are left are:

Ziggy Palffy
John Leclair
Adam Deadmarsh
Petr Bondra
Teemu Selanne
Anson Carter
Scott Young
Valeri Bure

If we don't go the UFA route and we instead elect to get a RFA I believe that if JFJ is going to go there, he's gotta go big and make it worth it otherwise it's just a huge waste of draft choices.

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

I definitely wouldn't mind Bondra. He's been overlooked this offseason, but he can still score 25-30 goals per season, and would be a decent first line RW for us. He'd improve our power play and might help us win a shootout game or two.

[The Insider]

I definitely wouldn't mind Bondra. He's been overlooked this offseason, but he can still score 25-30 goals per season, and would be a decent first line RW for us. He'd improve our power play and might help us win a shootout game or two.

Yeah I wouldn't mind him either... maybe a Sens fan can let us in on Special Agent Petr Bondra's abilities since they saw it last they played :thumb:

[TimmyTabasco]

Sign Deadmarsh. Then you'd have two guys with heads like a fresh watermelon.

I think he is done. Nothing has been heard of him for some while..like 2 years! :nod:

As I mentioned before, Carter would be a good bet..from Toronto..when he was born, first words were.."Wow..I want to play for the leafs"

BTW, Scott Young is terrible ;)

[leaferfan87]

He'd improve our power play and might help us win a shootout game or two.

Damnit...why did you have to remind me of that damned shootout?

[Man.Utd]

Yeah I wouldn't mind him either... maybe a Sens fan can let us in on Special Agent Petr Bondra's abilities since they saw it last they played :thumb:

He's still very servicebale. Wouldn't put 35 goals past him with the new rules and a guy like Sundin beside him. Fast as a rocket. But you guys probably knew that already. What really surprised me was his stellar defensive play. He's grat in his own-end, uses his speed to get back into his own end in the event of an opposing counter-attack, and was probably our most dangerous player SH.

I doubt he'd help you much in the shoot-outs though. From what I saw of Bondra he isn't too good one-on-one. He's a straight shooter with no dipsy-dootle moves in his bad. Just a guy with a great shot. The vast majority of goalies know this, come out far to cut off his angle, and force him to shoot right at them as he isn't tricky enough to weave by.

[leaferfan87]

He's still very servicebale. Wouldn't put 35 goals past him with the new rules and a guy like Sundin beside him. Fast as a rocket. But you guys probably knew that already. What really surprised me was his stellar defensive play. He's grat in his own-end, uses his speed to get back into his own end in the event of an opposing counter-attack, and was probably our most dangerous player SH.

I doubt he'd help you much in the shoot-outs though. From what I saw of Bondra he isn't too good one-on-one. He's a straight shooter with no dipsy-dootle moves in his bad. Just a guy with a great shot. The vast majority of goalies know this, come out far to cut off his angle, and force him to shoot right at them as he isn't tricky enough to weave by.

I'd probably prefer Bondra over Leclair because Bondra has a little more left in the tank in my opinion. But, Lindros with Leclair could be extremely intriguing although granted it isn't 1996-1997 anymore.

[grim]

I definitely wouldn't mind Bondra.

That avatar is creepy...

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[bluemeanie]

That avatar is creepy...
http://www.hockeystation.com/customavatars/avatar43_1.gif

lol.

Mats has been longing for his Prrreciousss Stanley Cup ring for too long now, me thinks.

[grim]

lol.

Mats has been longing for his Prrreciousss Stanley Cup ring for too long now, me thinks.

Right. Frodoshop

[Leafs_Fa_Life]

That avatar is creepy...

Well get used to it G. You'll be seeing that face in action 8 times a year this season :thumb:

[bluemeanie]

I'd probably prefer Bondra over Leclair because Bondra has a little more left in the tank in my opinion. But, Lindros with Leclair could be extremely intriguing although granted it isn't 1996-1997 anymore.

I'd prefer Bondra to Leclair too, but no matter... Leclair goes to Pittsburgh and It's just a matter of time before Bondra goes to some western small market team. I'm currently having the feeling that the Leafs are basically done with signings of any significance... I was holding out hope that maybe JFJ had a trade left in him that could bring us another contributor, but I'm doubting it. If Quinn is anything like Quinn, then he'll be playing our three #1 centers 1, 2 and 3... and without any wingers it seems to leave a few more holes in our lineup then I originally thought...The Leafs lineup, last yearplayed / this year coming (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1123883412918&call_pageid=1044442959412&col=1044442957278).

With that landscape, I wouldn't have scoffed at Leclair coming here...Bondra would be a huge bonus, Carter is a must at the very least. Hell, Even Stumpy can probably contribute more then half these wingers we have now.

I'm not looking to win the cup here, but if we want to at least make some noise in the playoffs... I think that we are about 2 wingers, and a defence man away still.

[Max Power]

I'd prefer Bondra to Leclair too, but no matter... Leclair goes to Pittsburgh and It's just a matter of time before Bondra goes to some western small market team. I'm currently having the feeling that the Leafs are basically done with signings of any significance... I was holding out hope that maybe JFJ had a trade left in him that could bring us another contributor, but I'm doubting it. If Quinn is anything like Quinn, then he'll be playing our three #1 centers 1, 2 and 3... and without any wingers it seems to leave a few more holes in our lineup then I originally thought...The Leafs lineup, last yearplayed / this year coming (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1123883412918&call_pageid=1044442959412&col=1044442957278).

With that landscape, I wouldn't have scoffed at Leclair coming here...Bondra would be a huge bonus, Carter is a must at the very least. Hell, Even Stumpy can probably contribute more then half these wingers we have now.

I'm not looking to win the cup here, but if we want to at least make some noise in the playoffs... I think that we are about 2 wingers, and a defence man away still.



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While it seems nonsensical that the Tampa Bay Lightning allowed goalie Nikolai Khabibulin to defect as a free agent to Chicago, it doesn?t automatically indicate that the ?04 Stanley Cup champions will not repeat. There are recent examples of championship teams losing a key element, only to continue their winning ways. In hockey, goalie Mike Vernon was principally responsible for the Detroit Red Wings ending their long Stanley Cup drought in the spring of 1997, yet his departure to San Jose did not prevent the Wings from repeating in ?98 under Chris Osgood, or winning again in 2002 with Dominik Hasek. In baseball, the Boston Red Sox appear to be fairing quite nicely, at the moment, without one of their World Series aces, pitcher Pedro Martinez (now with the New York Mets). The BoSox have gotten stronger in the second half of the season and have forged a decent lead atop the American League East.

Fans of the Toronto Blue Jays will vividly remember the leadership role that Dave Winfield played in the long-awaited World Series triumph of 1992, and how ridiculous it seemed when management refused to meet Winfield?s contract demands for the following season. Big Dave moved on to Minnesota, the Jays hired free agent Paul Molitor, and rolled to a second championship in ?93.

With these examples in mind, hockey people should not underestimate veteran puck-stopper Sean Burke, who the Lightning chose to replace Khabibulin. While Burke has bounced around in recent years, he has the savvy, experience, goaltending technique and ? most importantly ? the temperament to immerse with a championship club. Look for him to do extremely well in Tampa.

Based on the hundreds of e-mails I?ve received the past two weeks, fans of the Toronto Maple Leafs are in complete disagreement over how their team will fare this season. Those who parade up and down Yonge Steeet all night long after the team wins an opening-round playoff game aren?t difficult to convince. To them, the signing of Alexander Khavanov gives the Leafs the caliber of blue line the Montreal Canadiens had in the late-1970s.

To the less-delusional, the roster appears to have gaping holes, particularly on the wings. If Mats Sundin, Eric Lindros and Jason Allison escape the injury bug, the Leafs will have strength at centre equal to, or better than any team in the league. Problem is, Sundin, Lindros and Allison will have to hog the puck in order for the team to score. On the weekend, the Toronto Star compared the Leafs? potential forward lines for the coming season to the units the club deployed when hockey was last played. It was frightful, to say the least.

The No. 1 troika had Sundin centering Jeff O?Neill and Darcy Tucker. No argument with the Big Swede, or a healthy O?Neill. But, Tucker has hardly ever been used as a front-line winger in the NHL, even though he was a prolific scorer in Junior for the great Kamloops teams that won the Memorial Cup in 1992, ?94 and ?95; Tucker compiling 379 points in 223 regular-season games. His grit, and willingness to compete against bigger players in the NHL has made him an effective performer in most situations, but Tucker has not scored at the pace required of a first-line winger on a contending team.

A healthy Lindros could easily centre any No. 2 unit in the NHL, but the Star projection had him flanked by Alexei Ponikarovsky and Tie Domi, who combined for 16 goals in 2003-04. That?s 12 less than Gary Roberts accounted for by himself, and three less than Owen Nolan. Ponikarovsky has shown brief flashes of scoring potential but has never been even remotely considered a second-line winger in the NHL. Nor has Domi, despite his 15-goal eruption in 2002-03.

The Star?s third unit had Allison playing between Chad Kilger and Nik Antropov. And poor Allison thought he was coming to Toronto to re-start his career. Kilger exploded for three goals in ?03-04 and was brought in at the trade deadline strictly for injury depth. Under no foreseeable circumstance did GM John Ferguson project him to play regularly among the top three forward lines. The Leafs have been waiting the better part of a decade now for Antropov to flourish. He looked like a keeper early in his career, but has lacked inspiration and tenacity since having both his knees operated on, and was a mediocre skater before the surgeries. He had 13 goals in 62 games two seasons ago.

The fourth-unit wingers ? Clarke Wilm and Wade Belak ? combined for one goal in 44 games. Matt Stajan should have a ball setting up those two.

As such, Ferguson ? even with his limited cap space ? is in no position to disregard any chance of upgrading his scoring potential on the wings. Veteran Steve Thomas may be 42 years old, but he?s kept himself in excellent condition and, if healthy, could probably still outscore any of Kilger, Wilm, Belak, Ponikarovsky, and perhaps Domi and Antropov as well. Thomas potted 10 goals in 44 games with Detroit in ?03-04. Domi, Kilger, Belak and Wilm combined for 11 with Toronto. ?Stumpy? wants to finish his career in a Maple Leaf jersey and Ferguson should sign him. It was only two years ago that he played so effectively in Anaheim?s march to the Stanley Cup Final.

[bluemeanie]

I was starting to wonder what the hell baseball and Khabibulin had to do with my comments for a bit there... then I read on. My Anger management classes have taught me that it's better to read on sometimes and not just jump to conclusions and instantly become hostile...

I'm in my Happy place... happy place...

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[Leafs_Fa_Life]

If the Leafs had some young wingers in the organization then I could see them using Mats, Allison, and Lindros as the 1, 2, and 3 centers. However, the team doesn't and Lindros needs to be playing on Sundin's wing. Stajan is perfectly capable of holding down the third line, and I'd rather see him play up the middle than move to the wing.

[bluemeanie]

If the Leafs had some young wingers in the organization then I could see them using Mats, Allison, and Lindros as the 1, 2, and 3 centers. However, the team doesn't and Lindros needs to be playing on Sundin's wing. Stajan is perfectly capable of holding down the third line, and I'd rather see him play up the middle than move to the wing.

I've read in a few places now that Quinn doesn't plan on playing any of them together. But, we all know how Quinn likes to change things up as he goes. We'll see...

[Max Power]

I was starting to wonder what the hell baseball and Khabibulin had to do with my comments for a bit there... then I read on. My Anger management classes have taught me that it's better to read on sometimes and not just jump to conclusions and instantly become hostile...
I'm in my Happy place... happy place...


Speaking of anger I love golfing too! Carts, hills, clubs, beer and hitting things... What's not to like. I've got an itch to take care... let me get back to you

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